Parking Tickets across the border

[drtse]

My sister in law just got a parking ticket while in NY city for $115.

She doesn't want to pay it. Will she get nabbed for it back in Canada? Or will she just be a 'fugitive' the next time she enters NY state and the state police pull her over, strip search her, and throw her in the slammer?

What are the consequences of not paying it?

[Mazda3_06]

this happend to my parents they just keep on sending u letters in the mail and the fine continues to go up...then they say any assets she might have in NY will be taken...and if she goes back to NY and they see her car they will tow it away

[m_a_t_r_i_x]

just pay it, not worth the trouble.....

[dr1ft3r]

Where did she park? 115??

[Cardinal Fang]

My sister in law just got a parking ticket while in NY city for $115.

She doesn't want to pay it. Will she get nabbed for it back in Canada? Or will she just be a 'fugitive' the next time she enters NY state and the state police pull her over, strip search her, and throw her in the slammer?

What are the consequences of not paying it?

Seriously, this isn't worth the trouble your sister is attempting to make it into. Although NY State does not have any reciprocal agreements when it comes to the collection of fines they can ask for help from collection agencies if the fine amount after interest penalties exceeds a certain threshold.

Don't risk what you can't afford to loose.

[Garu]

115 for a parking ticket? That's insane.

[bluntman]

Tell your sister to change her plate before she travels to the US.

[Cardinal Fang]

Lmao!!

[bluntman]

It's true! I received a parking ticket in 2003 in NY on my previous car, they never sent me a letter, NY cannot easily access an out of country owner's address information from their licence plate. Ontario and NY share some information, but only on the driver, not on the vehicle. Of course, if the NYPD see the OP's sister with the same plate on the vehicle, they will impound the vehicle, hence, my suggestion above.

[queens49]

Just pay the ticket. Even if they never send the mob squad to collect their fine, they will slam your credit report with the unpaid fine. If you care at all about getting decent interest rates and don't want potential issues with getting loans (for cars, or otherwise) and future mortgagees, then your credit standing is worth protecting.


That's a really good point. Never even thought about that.

[Cardinal Fang]

It's true! I received a parking ticket in 2003 in NY on my previous car, they never sent me a letter, NY cannot easily access an out of country owner's address information from their licence plate. Ontario and NY share some information, but only on the driver, not on the vehicle. Of course, if the NYPD see the OP's sister with the same plate on the vehicle, they will impound the vehicle, hence, my suggestion above.

I never doubted this for a minute. It's just an insanely brilliant and over the top solution to a simple problem. Not at all practical but then again when you want to run out without paying for a ticket you're not exactly thinking about practicality. Talk about thinking out of the box bluntman.

:chuckle

[sauga_kid]

Just pay the ticket. Even if they never send the mob squad to collect their fine, they will slam your credit report with the unpaid fine. If you care at all about getting decent interest rates and don't want potential issues with getting loans (for cars, or otherwise) and future mortgagees, then your credit standing is worth protecting.

Although I say she pays the ticket, your credit standing here in Canada is totally independent of that in the States. If your sister decides to evade the ticket and her credit rating goes shot to hell across the boarder, unless she decides to move down there, it shouldn't affect her ability to get a loan or mortgage should she decide to here in Canada. Nonethelss, tell her to just pay it and get it over with, its not worth the hassle in the long run.

[garboui]

Just pay the ticket. Even if they never send the mob squad to collect their fine, they will slam your credit report with the unpaid fine. If you care at all about getting decent interest rates and don't want potential issues with getting loans (for cars, or otherwise) and future mortgagees, then your credit standing is worth protecting.

i was in a bit of a money jam with owing money and having a collection agency after me from ohio. it was money that i shouldnt have to had owed but whatever, the why isnt important. i consulted a lawyer about this and a collection agency in the states has no access to your credit and assets in canada. if they want it they will have to take you to court and sue you for it, only then the judge can rule ons assets, credit etc. for amall amounts such as a large ticket, it will cost them too much money to try and sue to collect.

[Cardinal Fang]

Just to clarify something. The ticket that drtse's sister got was not a "moving violation" ticket. It was issued by the City of New York and as such it's up to the City to get her to pay.

Had she been charged with a "moving violation" it would have been a different story because Ontario has reciprocal agreements with 41 states in the U.S. This means if you get a ticket in a U.S. state it will likely eventually appear on your Ontario driving record and points will be assessed as required by the Ontario Highway Traffic Act.

These are the states that Ontario has the reciprocal agreements with:

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

[Garu]

Just to clarify something. The ticket that drtse's sister got was not a "moving violation" ticket. It was issued by the City of New York and as such it's up to the City to get her to pay.

Had she been charged with a "moving violation" it would have been a different story because Ontario has reciprocal agreements with 41 states in the U.S. This means if you get a ticket in a U.S. state it will likely eventually appear on your Ontario driving record and points will be assessed as required by the Ontario Highway Traffic Act.

These are the states that Ontario has the reciprocal agreements with:

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

Wow, that's a good information. Thanks man.
What about the other 7?
(California and Florida are not in the list!)

[Cardinal Fang]

If they're not on the list then any tickets you receive in those states can't be transfered to your Ontario Record. I was stunned myself that Florida wasn't on the list. It's practically considered the 11th province. :chuckle

[starwind]

FYI, New York City's Parking & Vehicle's Violation Codes, Fines, Rules & Regulations:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/park_tickets_violations.shtml

quite a few in the $115 amount...

[drtse]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the replies....I kinda figured she should just pay it and not risk any potential hassles in the future.

[IMHIP2]

Yes that Florida one is a huge bonus!!!! It only cost me $185 US and no points (Bastage was sitting doing radar on a Saturday morning before 7am as you roll through one of those sleepy little towns between Tampa and Jacksonville)

I think what was posted above applies to Americans from those States in Ontario. As I researched this last summer I thought Ontario only had reciprocity with NY and Michigan and the other provinces

Edit
Actually here is what I found

Demerit Points for Out-of-Province Convictions
Drivers convicted of a driving related offence in the State of New York, the State of Michigan or any Canadian province or territory, will have home jurisdictional penalties such as demerit points and/or suspensions applied to their Ontario driver record as if the offence occurred in Ontario.


Examples of out-of-province convictions where Ontario demerit points and /or suspensions will be applied include:
Traffic Criminal
Speeding
Fail to obey stop sign
Fail to obey signal light
Fail to stop for school bus
Racing
Fail to remain or return to the scene of a collision
Careless driving
Motor manslaughter
Criminal negligence
Dangerous driving
Failure to remain at scene of a collision
Impaired Driving
Driving while disqualified or prohibited

[bluntman]

Just to clarify something. The ticket that drtse's sister got was not a "moving violation" ticket. It was issued by the City of New York and as such it's up to the City to get her to pay.


Yes, that is correct. Hence, my suggestion to the OP's sister, to change plates before going back to NY. What's $20 versus a $115USD parking ticket.




These are the states that Ontario has the reciprocal agreements with:

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

Actually, that's not entirely correct. Moving violations from New York and Michigan will appear on your record. The reciprocal agreement that Ontario has with the 41 jurisdictions listed above only applies to licence exchanges. Ontario residents who move to any of these 41 jurisdictions do not have to undergo any testing in order to exchange their Ontario driver's licence.

[Cardinal Fang]

As usual bluntman you are a cornucopia of information when it comes to these issues. I bow to you sir.

:chuckle