Used MSP3

[chinamike]

Saw an 07 used with about 21K on it for $28K... is this a fair price for this car? the black book states between 22-25K... I'm looking to buy my first 'real' car... I drive a 90 Supra now... I'm tossed between this used 07 MSP3 or a new 08 sportGT... advice? comments? Thanks... this is my first post!!!

[MPS]

was this car black ????

[dentinger]

save your cash, and get a MS3. i wish i did.
think about it. if you buy a mazda3 GT, you'll have to invest thousands of dollars if you ever want to turbo it. plus the mazda3 is already insanely fast as it is (to a point). plus you get the sweet sound of a Blow-Off valve!

[chinamike]

It was red... doesn't the 07 come only in Red? Is the price fair? After reading some of the things on this forum... it seems this car is prone to little problems that I HATE having... I can probably use this as a bargaining tool bwahahaha...

[chinamike]

EDIT:
Saw an 07 used with about 21K on it for $28K... is this a fair price for this car? the black book states THE CAR IS WORTH between $22-25K... I'm looking to buy my first 'real' car... I drive a 90 Supra now... I'm tossed between this used 07 MSP3 or a new 08 sportGT... advice? comments? Thanks... this is my first post!!!

[MPS]

yaa its a lilt to much for a used car
i know there was a black 1 for sale with 12000k asking $28.000 would have sold it for $26.000

and this red 1 ur looking at is this froma dealer ???

and 1 more thing you can now get a new speed for about $35.000 tax in out the door from dealer

and if you finance the car i think its %0
or maybe that was on lease

if ur serios PM ill get the best deal out there


It was red... doesn't the 07 come only in Red? Is the price fair? After reading some of the things on this forum... it seems this car is prone to little problems that I HATE having... I can probably use this as a bargaining tool bwahahaha...

[Unoriginalusername]

stop advocating for greater depreciation lol

[MPS]

why are you selling ??????

[chinamike]

why am i selling the supra? it needs some work done... but.. figure i'd rather 'invest' it into a new (or newer) car....

[Thirtynup]

Invest the $28k in the supra!!!!

[0nsp]

Just bought a used 2007 Speed 3 with less than 10K km for 20K. But its from the states (23K with taxes and duties).. the only other one i saw for sale in Canada (used) was in BC for over 30K. At my local dealer, I can get a brand new 2007 speed 3 for 31K... That shuold help you with some numbers, I hope.

[ptfire]

I am picking up my Mazdaspeed3 Saturday (NEW 2007) I paid $30,500 out the door. PM and I will tell you which dealer to contact.

[Unoriginalusername]

I am picking up my Mazdaspeed3 Saturday (NEW 2007) I paid $30,500 out the door. PM and I will tell you which dealer to contact.

post a scan of your invoice... erase the dealer if you'd like

[cisco23]

I had a 1990 Supra Turbo as well. Best car I ever had. I traded it in for something errr practical like a Honda CRV... Unfortunately the head gasket was leaking and the turbo well leaked as well, probably seized when I knew the car was parts. Talking from experience I am happy with my GT.. Its not a MS but its good enough and plenty of power.

[ptfire]

Why should I bother to scan and post my invoice? Who ever is interested in getting the best deal will PM me. Besides my invoice shows$32,828 because I bought a 7 year extended warranty.

[Unoriginalusername]

Why should I bother to scan and post my invoice? Who ever is interested in getting the best deal will PM me. Besides my invoice shows$32,828 because I bought a 7 year extended warranty.

Because I don't believe you thats all :chuckle

[REZXPERT]

+1 to that, UU

[ptfire]

It doesn't matter whether any of you believe me. You all have already bought your car for $37,000. This is for those who don't own a MS3 and would like to get a great deal. So don't put doubts in their mind because of your jealousy.

[Wild Weasel]

I sure as hell didn't pay $37000!

Incidentally, people wanting a good deal should be talking to Jeff and calling the broker I dealt with as listed in the "Buying a Mazda3" section. :)

[ptfire]

You may not have paid $37,000 but you sure didn't pay $30,500.

[Wild Weasel]

You may not have paid $37,000 but you sure didn't pay $30,500.

No, I certainly didn't pay that either. That would be around $26,750 + tax.

Maybe Jeff or someone can chime in, but it seems to me that's likely below cost.

[Unoriginalusername]

It doesn't matter whether any of you believe me. You all have already bought your car for $37,000. This is for those who don't own a MS3 and would like to get a great deal. So don't put doubts in their mind because of your jealousy.

Shouldn't be a big deal to post an invoice... i didn't pay anywhere near 37 either. what are the first few letters of your vin?

[Wild Weasel]

I have no issues believing the guy. I just don't see why he won't post where he got it from. Being a noob, that seems very suspicious. You'd think he'd want to spread the good news.

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Lets see here...

$30995 MSRP
$1225 Freight & PDI
$100 Air Excise
$75 Gas Tax

$32395 Total before taxes.

Current Mazda incentive $4000 + tax.

So $32370 before discount...

So $32370 - $30500 = $1870

$1640 discount.. not bad.


about $2068 between Invoice and MSRP

Wanna do better? Remove the warranty and come and see me after you pick it up.

[ptfire]

The Vin# JM1BK34L8
I am only letting people know there is a deal to be had, not trying to upset those of you who already own a MS3.

[ptfire]

By the way: for all you non believers Orillia Mazda has a new 2007 on the autotrader.ca for $25,995. I called them and it worked a deal out at $31,500. I was lucky enough to do even better plus I got to choose the colour (except Red).

[Unoriginalusername]

The Vin# JM1BK34L8
I am only letting people know there is a deal to be had, not trying to upset those of you who already own a MS3.


The first character represents the country of manufacture, and can be a letter or a number, each signifying a different country. The most common ones are as follows:

(1 = USA, 2 = Canada, 3 = Mexico, J = Japan, K = Korea, W = Germany, Y = Finland, Sweden)

So using the Auto VIN Decoder in the above example, this particular car was made in Canada.

The second/third characters represent the manufacturer, also known as the make. The most common are:

(A = Alfa Romeo, B = Dodge, C = Chrysler, D = Daihatsu, E = Eagle, F= Ford/Eagle, G = All General Motors vehicles (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn) H = Honda/Acura, J= Jeep, L = Lincoln, M = Mitsubishi, N = Nissan/Infiniti, P = Plymouth, S = Subaru, T = Toyota/Lexus, V = Volkswagen)

hmm mine starts the same way, made for canada... i would have guessed a dealer imported a us model to get it for that price

[ptfire]

Did anyone check out the one at Orillia Mazda on www.autotrader.ca?

[Unoriginalusername]

Did anyone check out the one at Orillia Mazda on www.autotrader.ca?

hmm did a search for mazdaspeed3's in on and got nothing

[Jeff-TheBiz]

Lets see here...

$30995 MSRP
$1225 Freight & PDI
$100 Air Excise
$75 Gas Tax

$32395 Total before taxes.

Current Mazda incentive $4000 + tax.

So $32370 before discount...

So $32370 - $30500 = $1870

$1640 discount.. not bad.



Okay, so you didn't even read this, did you?


By the way: for all you non believers Orillia Mazda has a new 2007 on the autotrader.ca for $25,995. I called them and it worked a deal out at $31,500. I was lucky enough to do even better plus I got to choose the colour (except Red).

Wow So $31500.. thats a whole $640 off the car...


Did anyone check out the one at Orillia Mazda on www.autotrader.ca? (http://www.autotrader.ca?)


http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=1334430&adid=6493991

Yikes, and it is a demo as well... hmmm.

[Unoriginalusername]

i got out the door for 35k and change, seems in line with deals others have gotten. 4k less would be nice, but sounds suspicious to me

[Jeff-TheBiz]

i got out the door for 35k and change, seems in line with deals others have gotten. 4k less would be nice, but sounds suspicious to me

Everyone gets $4000 now.. sorry bout that.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=12365

[Unoriginalusername]

Everyone gets $4000 now.. sorry bout that.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=12365

wow! nice, but rates are 8% no? how much of a discount on a mazda 5 gt auto with sunroof? 07

[Wild Weasel]

Ah well. :) $4k off would be nice, but who knew?

[PierreB]

Just bought a used 2007 Speed 3 with less than 10K km for 20K. But its from the states (23K with taxes and duties).. the only other one i saw for sale in Canada (used) was in BC for over 30K. At my local dealer, I can get a brand new 2007 speed 3 for 31K... That shuold help you with some numbers, I hope.

How do you deal with warranty if the car comes from the states? Mazda Canada is not honoring the warranty on cars coming from the states. Atleast that what I heard.

[ptfire]

I picked up my MS3 yesterday, it had 86 kms on it. Great car and a great price.

[Unoriginalusername]

I picked up my MS3 yesterday, it had 86 kms on it. Great car and a great price.

congrats .... if you want a ms cai for a good price check out the link in my sig

[ptfire]

Here are a few pictures
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/ptfire/100_1027.jpg
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[Wild Weasel]

Very nice!! Good job on choosing the best colour! :bana

[JPAV8S4U]

Very nice!! Good job on choosing the best colour! :bana

I didnt see that coming ;)

[Unoriginalusername]

nice pixies... lol @ ww... too funny

[Garu]

I guess he didn't know they get 50 hp less on the blue ones either.

[Unoriginalusername]

I guess he didn't know they get 50 hp less on the blue ones either.

its outta the bag now lol

[Cardinal Fang]

Congrats on your purchase ptfire.

[ptfire]

Congrats on your purchase ptfire.

Thanks, it's not the fastest car I have owned but the nicest car I have owned so far. I am very happy with the choice I made.

[alhope34]

I just got my '08 MS3 for $39,660 taxes and everything in, and I also got the $1800 and change 6 year 160,000km warranty. 5.9%, $0 down, I even took back my deposit, haha. Base price of $31,500 I THINK before anything was added at all. Not 100% sure on that though, I wasn't looking at the total cost of the car, I was more concerned with monthly figures.

[Unoriginalusername]

I just got my '08 MS3 for $39,660 taxes and everything in, and I also got the $1800 and change 6 year 160,000km warranty. 5.9%, $0 down, I even took back my deposit, haha. Base price of $31,500 I THINK before anything was added at all. Not 100% sure on that though, I wasn't looking at the total cost of the car, I was more concerned with monthly figures.

why would you be more concerned with monthly figures? when you have a lower total cost your payments are less by default... you paid about 2k more (before the warranty) and 6k more than getting an 07 with the 4k rebate (without the warranty)

[alhope34]

Because I don't care what the total is, all I care is if I can make the monthly payments. Which is why I went with 6 year instead of 5 year in the first place. About $1500 more interest, but $75 lower payment a month. Means the monthly payment is easier to manage. Everyone has different ways of doing what they feel comfortable and happy with, don't rag on what I did just because you don't like it. I have to deal with it, it isn't your problem.

[Unoriginalusername]

Because I don't care what the total is, all I care is if I can make the monthly payments. Which is why I went with 6 year instead of 5 year in the first place. About $1500 more interest, but $75 lower payment a month. Means the monthly payment is easier to manage. Everyone has different ways of doing what they feel comfortable and happy with, don't rag on what I did just because you don't like it. I have to deal with it, it isn't your problem.

not trying to get your back up against the wall, just saying in general the best way to get a low monthly payment is to get a lower total price and then play with the payment plan stuff

[Wild Weasel]

He's right. It's never in your best interest to negotiate based on the monthly payment. Dealers know how to get you to pay more with lower payments.

You want to get the price down first, then get the lowest possible interest rate for the length of time you want to finance it for. That will get you the lowest monthly payment.

[Unoriginalusername]

Ya you need to look at stuff like that... even more so with a mortage

[Jeff-TheBiz]

welcome to the forum..


BTW... wasn't me.

[Cardinal Fang]

Because I don't care what the total is, all I care is if I can make the monthly payments. Which is why I went with 6 year instead of 5 year in the first place. About $1500 more interest, but $75 lower payment a month. Means the monthly payment is easier to manage. Everyone has different ways of doing what they feel comfortable and happy with, don't rag on what I did just because you don't like it. I have to deal with it, it isn't your problem.

Congrats on your purchase. Don't be offended by what the others are pointing out to you. We're happy you're comfortable with what you negotiated. In the end the only one whose opinion counts is yours. We just wanted to point out that although you succeeded in getting a lower monthly payment you are making more of them (longer term to finance) which means they (Mazda Finance) will be getting more of your money than you recognize.

People really need to pay attention to the big picture and what an item will end up costing you. Not just what it means in the short term.

[alhope34]

Well the sales manager said I should get the 5 year, not 6 year, it was me that chose to. The loan is through Scotiabank, so Mazda I would assume gets none of the interest I pay.

[GGM3]

I don't know how car loans work but I'm sure Mazda Canada and the dealership get a cut of the extra interest you are paying but either way you're paying more than you could have been if you negotiated the final price.

$39,660/72 = $550/month

Now let's say you negotiated the final price of say $38000 with the same terms you're paying about $530/month.

Of course I'm only assuming things and I don't have the dealer calculator.

[Jeff-TheBiz]

I don't know how car loans work but I'm sure Mazda Canada and the dealership get a cut of the extra interest you are paying but either way you're paying more than you could have been if you negotiated the final price.


:loco

"extra interest"?

If the 6yr is 3.9% where is there extra interest? No bank will lend you anything at 3.9% so if anything Mazda Canada is paying more to subvene the rate for longer..

[Wild Weasel]

Yep. That's why you can often negotiate a deeper discount if you're paying with cash. When a manufacturer is running a financing incentive, providing lower interest rates than the banks do, it actually costs them money. That's money they're spending to make it easier for them to sell you a car.

They don't generally profit off interest when giving special rates, especially when they outsource their finacing as Mazda does.

[Cardinal Fang]

Well the sales manager said I should get the 5 year, not 6 year, it was me that chose to.

Then the sales manager was giving you sound advice that would save you money in the long run.



The loan is through Scotiabank, so Mazda I would assume gets none of the interest I pay.

My bad. I didn't realize you went outside of Mazda to finance the car. In that case I have to revise my statement to read, "...although you succeeded in getting a lower monthly payment you are making more of them (longer term to finance) which means they (Scotiabank) will be getting more of your money than you recognize."

[Wild Weasel]

No, he financed through Mazda. Mazda uses Scotiabank.

[Cardinal Fang]

:chuckleFine then. WHO EVER FINANCED THE CAR IS GETTING MORE MONEY.

[GGM3]

:loco

"extra interest"?

If the 6yr is 3.9% where is there extra interest? No bank will lend you anything at 3.9% so if anything Mazda Canada is paying more to subvene the rate for longer..

I thought he said it was 5.9%?

But the extra interest I meant is the 6 year vs 5 year term period. Lower monthly payment = more payments over a longer term = more interest on the balance to be paid off.

[alhope34]

But the extra interest I meant is the 6 year vs 5 year term period. Lower monthly payment = more payments over a longer term = more interest on the balance to be paid off.


Which all goes to Scotiabank, not Mazda...boy, this thread is becoming very redundant.

[Unoriginalusername]

Which all goes to Scotiabank, not Mazda...boy, this thread is becoming very redundant.

x2 just post some more pics to distract us :chuckle