Fobio
05-23-2009, 12:32 AM
This is a compilation of smooth throttle fixes thus far:
1. aaronc7's "simple fix" - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/26456-fixing-jerky-throttle-response-atr.html
OR, just copy and paste this into your "Throttle - Requested Load A" and "Throttle - Requested Load C" tables under the "Load Tables" folder
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77
0.69 0.81 0.94 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
2. dread's enhanced values for the same "Throttle - Requested Load A" and "Throttle - Requested Load C" - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/26456-fixing-jerky-throttle-response-atr.html#post214089
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82
0.69 0.81 0.94 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
3. dread's latest smooth throttle fix w/ app tables as well - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/28444-using-app-translation-tables-smooth-powerful-results.html
I posted these results in the jerky throttle thread, but decided to make a new thread at the requests of other members. I used the app translation in combination with the throttle req. load tables to get a smooth and powerful map. The results are awesome. Very responsive and linear thottle, while not being too sensitive. I think the lag problem caused by linear load tables is best fixed with the app tables. The stock app tables are set up to work with the stock throttle req load tables that ramp up load quickly. That being said the app table I posted above is made to work with the load table I posted below. I used the same app table for all gears.
App translation to be put in all gear app tables other than neutral.
0.00 0.32 1.28 2.85 4.52 6.18 7.85 9.51 11.37 13.04 14.83 16.63 18.42 20.22 22.01 23.81 28.30 32.78 37.27 41.76 46.25 50.74 55.22 59.71 65.69 72.41 79.12 82.48 85.83 92.55 100.00
Throttle req. load data for tables a and c.
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87
0.69 0.81 0.94 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
Fix #1 is simple and mellow...maybe a little too much so.
Fix #2 is perfect for the commute.
Fix #3 will be the used for the dyno and track.
1. aaronc7's "simple fix" - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/26456-fixing-jerky-throttle-response-atr.html
OR, just copy and paste this into your "Throttle - Requested Load A" and "Throttle - Requested Load C" tables under the "Load Tables" folder
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.38
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58 0.58
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77 0.77
0.69 0.81 0.94 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.96
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.15
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35 1.35
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54 1.54
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73 1.73
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92 1.92
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12 2.12
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31 2.31
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
2. dread's enhanced values for the same "Throttle - Requested Load A" and "Throttle - Requested Load C" - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/26456-fixing-jerky-throttle-response-atr.html#post214089
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20 0.20
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41 0.41
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62 0.62
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82 0.82
0.69 0.81 0.94 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02 1.02
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42 1.42
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62 1.62
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82 1.82
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02 2.02
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22 2.22
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42 2.42
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50 2.50
3. dread's latest smooth throttle fix w/ app tables as well - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/mazdaspeed-3-6-cobb-access-tuner-race-support/28444-using-app-translation-tables-smooth-powerful-results.html
I posted these results in the jerky throttle thread, but decided to make a new thread at the requests of other members. I used the app translation in combination with the throttle req. load tables to get a smooth and powerful map. The results are awesome. Very responsive and linear thottle, while not being too sensitive. I think the lag problem caused by linear load tables is best fixed with the app tables. The stock app tables are set up to work with the stock throttle req load tables that ramp up load quickly. That being said the app table I posted above is made to work with the load table I posted below. I used the same app table for all gears.
App translation to be put in all gear app tables other than neutral.
0.00 0.32 1.28 2.85 4.52 6.18 7.85 9.51 11.37 13.04 14.83 16.63 18.42 20.22 22.01 23.81 28.30 32.78 37.27 41.76 46.25 50.74 55.22 59.71 65.69 72.41 79.12 82.48 85.83 92.55 100.00
Throttle req. load data for tables a and c.
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.64 0.46 0.34 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21 0.21
0.67 0.68 0.61 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43 0.43
0.68 0.77 0.80 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65 0.65
0.69 0.80 0.90 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87 0.87
0.69 0.81 0.94 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09 1.09
0.70 0.82 0.95 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31
0.70 0.83 0.96 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52 1.52
0.70 0.82 0.97 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70 1.70
0.70 0.83 0.97 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88 1.88
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06 2.06
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
0.70 0.83 0.97 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20 2.20
Fix #1 is simple and mellow...maybe a little too much so.
Fix #2 is perfect for the commute.
Fix #3 will be the used for the dyno and track.