Coilover Suggestions

[DreCyrus]

Finally just decided to make my own thread as every thread i've came across about what coilovers to buy is pretty outdated going back like 3 years ago.
Anyways, past week or so I've been reading countless reviews on different brands of coilovers and wondering what do some of you guys/girls use.

I'm on a budget closer to the 1100 range but if I have to fork the extra couple hundred for something really good depending what you guys say i have no problem with doing that. Currently I drive a 2013 speed3 and its a DD I've been lowered before on my old 3 on sportline springs but i want the upgrade.
Ive been reading into:
Raceland Primos (hit or miss?)
BC Racing BR type
KW v1s
STs
Ksport

Ive been leaning towards the BC's but seems like some people have been having problems with them like i said before the other threads are really outdated so I don't know how they perform now or if the coilovers have been been updated or what not.

Share some your opinions

Thanks!

[S.F.W.]

Are you wanting to go really low ? Or do you just want the height adjusting functions of coil overs ?

Challenge is your budget. The quality options are really tough with your budget(KW V2/V3, Bilstein, etc).

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I had BCs for three years or so and I didn't have any real issues with them. I tracked them once, but mainly street driven.

However when I put the 10k 135mm springs in them vs the 7K they ship with they rode pretty damn rough.

Never ceased or blew or anything.

[MS3_]

if you daily your car, i heard about good things about BC coils, got a couple of my buddies running and no issues, also check out

standard coils & ISC coils.

i personally have a KW v2 and i love it. i even track them with it.

[nigvlb_]

if you daily your car, i heard about good things about BC coils, got a couple of my buddies running and no issues, also check out

standard coils & ISC coils.

i personally have a KW v2 and i love it. i even track them with it.

+1 // Been running BC extreme drops for 35xxxkm and no issues, love the drop it gives and also the ride quality is great due to the adjustable preload.

ISC are a bit cheaper and great also.

[DreCyrus]

Are you wanting to go really low ? Or do you just want the height adjusting functions of coil overs ?

Challenge is your budget. The quality options are really tough with your budget(KW V2/V3, Bilstein, etc).

Not trying to go really low, but yes more so for the height adjusting functions. What are you on Ami?

Also, was just debating on going all out one time on KWs or settle for BC's considering still got to pay to install and alignment afterwards.

[nigvlb_]

KW's are considerably more expensive. I would go KW V2/V3 for track use.

If you're dailying it, just go bc, isc, or standard suspension etc. Best bang for buck.

KW V1s have limited adjustments but are amazing on track. If you decided to go KW, go with the KW V2's atleast.

[Mr Wilson]

ST are V1 with steel bodies. Had BC they lasted 3 months before I sold them.

[S.F.W.]

Not trying to go really low, but yes more so for the height adjusting functions. What are you on Ami?

Also, was just debating on going all out one time on KWs or settle for BC's considering still got to pay to install and alignment afterwards.
I went springs and shocks. Having had several sets of coil overs before, I know I would not adjust the height.
That, and I think going to low you lose some of the great handling.

I am on Swift spec R springs, and Bilstein B8 shocks.

[daddy_phatstax]

I would take any of those choices over the ISC I ended up with. Worse coilovers I ever used!!!

[marcodude04]

I'm gonna get shit om for this but race land ultimos I have them with Monroe top hats and installed them myself... 40 k + on them and driven through winters barley any surface rust and no seizing way to good of a coilovers for the price, also they go hella low

[ryan2.3]

I'm gonna get shit om for this but race land ultimos I have them with Monroe top hats and installed them myself... 40 k + on them and driven through winters barley any surface rust and no seizing way to good of a coilovers for the price, also they go hella low

same boat. I've got regular racelands (ultimos weren't out at the time) and it's been similar mileage and two years and they work great. Put them up a bit in the winter, drop it back down in the summer. have also done some track days with them. No issues yet

[js593]

I'm installing my ISC N1 coils this weekend. I'll let you know how they feel, and how the adjustments are.

[Kochammcie]

Also looking for coilovers, anyone know where you can you buy some locally? Or online if not (preferably Canadian to avoid duties etc.).

[Cjcoolen]

Also looking for coilovers, anyone know where you can you buy some locally? Or online if not (preferably Canadian to avoid duties etc.).
Have you ever actually called around performance car parts in google or even read some posts in the forum?

1st post fail.

[Kochammcie]

Are you just assuming I didn't? I've spent lots of time looking into it, I'm just wondering what people have to say here since it's a relatively new thread. I thought forums like these were part to help people...


Have you ever actually called around performance car parts in google or even read some posts in the forum?

1st post fail.

[Cjcoolen]

I didnt assume but seriously tho, there are tons of threads in here that people stated where they get their coilovers from.

All i have to do is type in "coilover" in the search forum and they will all show up. Its been talked a lot already.

[Kochammcie]

I have already looked into that but as OP stated, the threads are all outdated.

Anyway if anyone wants to actually chime in and have any helpful info let me know!


I didnt assume but seriously tho, there are tons of threads in here that people stated where they get their coilovers from.

All i have to do is type in "coilover" in the search forum and they will all show up. Its been talked a lot already.

[Cjcoolen]

www.tdotperformance.ca

You can look in the sponsor section in the forum and contact one of them

As for any stores in the states,

www.edgeautosport.com

Always use USPS shipping as sometimes you can get away without paying duties. Please note that *sometimes* it doesnt happen.

[S.F.W.]

Also looking for coilovers, anyone know where you can you buy some locally? Or online if not (preferably Canadian to avoid duties etc.).
It depends what you are looking for, lowest price - Raceland, mid range - BC Coils, higher end - KWV1, KWV2/KWV3 .

Locally, Nextmod, and CTA Motorsports

[Kochammcie]

www.tdotperformance.ca

You can look in the sponsor section in the forum and contact one of them

As for any stores in the states,

www.edgeautosport.com

Always use USPS shipping as sometimes you can get away without paying duties. Please note that *sometimes* it doesnt happen.

Thanks man!


It depends what you are looking for, lowest price - Raceland, mid range - BC Coils, higher end - KWV1, KWV2/KWV3 .

Locally, Nextmod, and CTA Motorsports

Looking at midrange preferably, I'll give them a contact them tomorrow, thanks!!

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Performance Improvments also carries KWs line, but not BC or Raceland.

[thirdgen3]

I'm on BC's and haven't had any issues. (knock on wood)

[js593]

After having my coils on for just over a week, im seriously impressed with them. The ISC N1 series is awesome. I put it to max soft, and use that for daily. +5 for autocross.

They rebound super nice and take bumps really easy without massive noise you would normally get from super stiff suspension. Its a really great and quiet ride in comparison to other cars ive driven in. Granted with stiffer suspension does come more natural noise from the pavement, you will notice a slight increase of road noise. I know a lot of people have driven on lots of other suspension setups but this by far has blown me away. Even with another friend in the car, the car is still very quiet and doesn't make a lot of noise.

If you want specifics feel free to ask me questions.

[DreCyrus]

Installed my BC's yesterday and couldn't be happier with my decision got some picture will be uploading later did adjust height just left it the way it comes out of the box for now going to drive some more and post an update soon

[DreCyrus]

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I forgot to take an before picture but I mean it was obviously really high with stock suspension. This is no adjustments just straight out of the box and have tons of flexibility to drop even more. +1 on BCs


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[G ~ MINI]

I was thinking to go to coilovers this year ...I would love feedback on the 3 below. I saw that someone is using ISC (basic ?) and hates and ISC N1 and loves them ...

1. ISC N1 Street or Race valving (selling for $1500 CDN tax in )
2. Track One (Is https://trackoneengineering.com/ As far as i can see these made by K Tune & K2 coilovers too) $1245.83 CDN tax in
3. XYZ Racing (Taiwan designed and made from street to all types of racing ) They start at $1300 cdn +ship+duty+tax
4. Silvers Neosilver (taiwan ) $1752 CDN tax in
4. Goodspeed MonoMaxx (these are taiwan made others are china made) $1380 tax in CDN
5. Neo MotorSport Type AA These are all aluminum (taiwan/china components i think?) $1712 CDN tax in

I would love the KSport Kontrol 2 way but they are to much $$

[S.F.W.]

KW V3

[G ~ MINI]

Geez Boy....I know the KW V3 rock !! but cannot see myself paying $3K+ new for these....Any one selling some on here ?

Im leaning towards the TRACK One ... Confirmed they are made by K-Tuned . Get those now and wait to source a used set of KW V3 and get them rebuilt.

[G ~ MINI]

I was thinking to go to coilovers this year ...I would love feedback on the 3 below. I saw that someone is using ISC (basic ?) and hates and ISC N1 and loves them ...

1. ISC N1 Street or Race valving (selling for $1500 CDN tax in )
2. Track One (Is https://trackoneengineering.com/ As far as i can see these made by K Tune & K2 coilovers too) $1245.83 CDN tax in
3. XYZ Racing (Taiwan designed and made from street to all types of racing ) They start at $1300 cdn +ship+duty+tax
4. Silvers Neosilver (taiwan ) $1752 CDN tax in
4. Goodspeed MonoMaxx (these are taiwan made others are china made) $1380 tax in CDN
5. Neo MotorSport Type AA These are all aluminum (taiwan/china components i think?) $1712 CDN tax in

I would love the KSport Kontrol 2 way but they are to much $$

add this one to the list :
6. WAT Suspensions. Classic type Coilover 57mm large tube design all aluminum https://www.watsuspension.com/classic-type.html

[G ~ MINI]

KW V3

I think i found what can be a real competitor to the KW V3 and that is Fortune Auto (FA) are usa built. https://www.fortune-auto.ca/fortune-auto-500-series-coilover-mazda-323-protg-bj5w
The FA are rebuild able and can be rebuilt to 2 way or 3 way ... But presently no coilovers for the Mazda 3 platform... Huge But ..they are still in prototype phase and available soon!! I waiting.

[G ~ MINI]

add this one to the list :
6. WAT Suspensions. Classic type Coilover 57mm large tube design all aluminum https://www.watsuspension.com/classic-type.html

Update:

1 st choice : Fortune Auto 500 series $2011 cdn tax in delivered
2. WAT suspensions $2200 cdn tax in delivered (57 mm monotube)
3. XYZ $1881 cdn tax in delivered (51.5 mm monotube)
4. Track One $1245 tax in delivered. cant find any tube specs prob 44mm-50mm

~ maybe starting a GoFundMe to raise funds for a set of KW V3 (only need 3K). Actually found a supplier for $3040 cdn tax in/ delivered.

[G ~ MINI]

Just an FYI :

For those considering the KW V3 . Last year KW was offering rebate to purchases made between March 1- May 31. https://www.bimmerworld.com/KW_Suspensions_2019_Rebate_Form.pdf
$350 USD ($464 CDN) i presume.

[G ~ MINI]

Update:

1 st choice : Fortune Auto 500 series $2011 cdn tax in delivered
2. WAT suspensions $2200 cdn tax in delivered (57 mm monotube)
3. XYZ $1881 cdn tax in delivered (51.5 mm monotube)
4. Track One $1245 tax in delivered. cant find any tube specs prob 44mm-50mm

~ maybe starting a GoFundMe to raise funds for a set of KW V3 (only need 3K). Actually found a supplier for $3040 cdn tax in/ delivered.

Ok ...this is starting to be like a bad nitemare or a crazy ex i can t let go for some reason ...lol Every time i start reading more reviews about coilovers i find another interesting performing and priced coilover.
So my list starting to grow change again & again.....
Update:

1. KW V3 ... if they have a $350 usd rebate like last year ..i want these. (Germany, fully rebuildable)
2. Fortune Auto 500 series ??$2011 cdn tax in delivered...will be available in proto testing stage (USA assembled & tested, rebuild able)
3. Ceika about $2000 cdn tax delivered (UK company ..Custom made to your specs , Taiwan , rebuildable)
4. XYZ $1881 cdn tax in delivered (51.5 mm monotube) very popular in Australia racing
5. WAT suspensions $2200 cdn tax in delivered (57 mm monotube)

4&5 is dealing directly with the manufacturer

Thanks TM3 for letting me vent and be my therapist ... I feel much better now :P

[G ~ MINI]

For those interested in Fortune Auto Coilovers

" testing 2010-2013 MazdaSpeed 3 suspension currently. If everything works out it should be in production in about a month. "

and Should fit all Mazda 3 BL.

[shift8]

Have you looked at the Bilsteins?

http://garage16.ca/bilstein/bilstein-performance-suspension-kits-b14-pss-kit/47121225/i-1975755.aspx

[G ~ MINI]

Have you looked at the Bilsteins?

http://garage16.ca/bilstein/bilstein-performance-suspension-kits-b14-pss-kit/47121225/i-1975755.aspx

Hey i did... max ride height drop only 40mm ..was looking for a 2 1/4 , 2.5 inch in front (65mm)

[G ~ MINI]

UPDATE :

Sorry Ami ...not going with the KW V3. Maybe i will consider a 2 way or 3 way after i get bored with this set.
I found a nice deal and I went with a set of the Neo Motorsport Type AA (ultra light) https://www.neo-motorsport.com/collections/coilover-suspension-type-aa/products/neo-type-aa-all-aluminum-coilover-mazda?variant=12305634852943. Assembled in Ontario. They list at $1728cdn on their website...got them on Tdot for $1426.

Once i get the coilovers on I will sell my Corksport lowering springs and dampeners.
Springs : https://corksport.com/corksport-mazda-3-lowering-spring-set.html
Dampeners : https://corksport.com/corksport-mazdaspeed-3-mazda-3-adjustable-struts-and-shocks.html
Let me know if interested.

[S.F.W.]

UPDATE :

Sorry Ami ...not going with the KW V3. Maybe i will consider a 2 way or 3 way after i get bored with this set.
I found a nice deal and I went with a set of the Neo Motorsport Type AA (ultra light) https://www.neo-motorsport.com/collections/coilover-suspension-type-aa/products/neo-type-aa-all-aluminum-coilover-mazda?variant=12305634852943. Assembled in Ontario. They list at $1728cdn on their website...got them on Tdot for $1426.

Once i get the coilovers on I will sell my Corksport lowering springs and dampeners.
Springs : https://corksport.com/corksport-mazda-3-lowering-spring-set.html
Dampeners : https://corksport.com/corksport-mazdaspeed-3-mazda-3-adjustable-struts-and-shocks.html
Let me know if interested.The KW's are great but way overkill for the vast majority of applications.
I think you made a good choice. Looking forward to seeing them on the car.

[G ~ MINI]

The KW's are great but way overkill for the vast majority of applications.
I think you made a good choice. Looking forward to seeing them on the car.

Thanks!! Ya im looking forward to getting them next week. Although on winter tires its a good way to let them to settle in .
I do still prefer the Fortune Auto (FA) over the KW ... The price point is less that the KW V3 but the FA entry level series 500 can rebuilt to 2 way
but the KW V3 can also be rebuilt and great warranty too.

[G ~ MINI]

Thanks!! Ya im looking forward to getting them next week. Although on winter tires its a good way to let them to settle in .
I do still prefer the Fortune Auto (FA) over the KW ... The price point is less that the KW V3 but the FA entry level series 500 can rebuilt to 2 way
but the KW V3 can also be rebuilt and great warranty too.

Update : Fortune Auto
I just got a message from them that Series 500 & 510 are now available for Mazdaspeed BL & Mazda 3 BL hatch only ( no sedan)

[G ~ MINI]

Ok ...last Update from me on this subject on what i think is a good $$ for product for a daily and some track and alot of track .

The list has changed after reading product descriptions, reading more products reviews/feedback and contacting company reps.
I was able to get a great deal on the NEO Motorsport Type AA . My mechanic has worked with NEO and has done some Drift car builds for Neo Motorsport and other cars using Neo's.
Plus Neo Motorsport ..they are local ...30 min drive.. Bolton with their own shop for Coilover and big brake install.

Fortune Auto I still love (only for Speed & Mazda 3 hatch)
Fortune Auto series 510 $2100 usd ( the tech that is in the 510) which are rebuildable to a 2 way or 3 way. (they are not cheap)
https://fortune-auto.com/coilovers/510series/ .... Series 500 are very nice too (1400 USD)
OHLIN ..wtf ...why dont you make a set for Mazda 3's ....

If you are planning to spend $2000 usd + you should consider and want that track performance to rock and want it also on your daily drive
1. D2 GT Series GT Series – https://www.d2racing.com/coilovers/gt-series/
2. BC Racing ER ER Series https://www.bcracing-na.com/articles/er-series
3. KW V3 or V4 https://www.kwsuspensions.net/products/coilovers/variant4
4. Yellow Speed USA https://yellowspeedracingusa.com/collections/mazda/Mazda-Mazda-3-2012?page=1
Sale on Yellow race 2 way pro race or club. I have a code for additional 15% (ships from USA)