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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuman View Post
    I'm sure the HIDs turns on the same as if we used the auto function.
    Maybe they have a slightly longer delay.
    Probably....it'd be nice if we could program that somehow and keep all the functions as stock 07s+

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdathree View Post
    Probably....it'd be nice if we could program that somehow and keep all the functions as stock 07s+
    Either way, turning them on manually will protect them more.
    Also, I park in garage, so it'll turn on when I start the car, and off when I go to the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuman View Post
    Either way, turning them on manually will protect them more.
    Also, I park in garage, so it'll turn on when I start the car, and off when I go to the street.
    true....

    The after market kits that i have come across so far are all plug and play....the thing that would worry me is that the stock harness that has all the switching functions in the 2006 M3 has sufficient current and power ratings to handle the HID without causing burnouts and any other possible electrical hazards.....I know there is the relay method to bypass this and other mods to run the DRLs but I'd like to keep my car as stock as possible for warranty issues....the last thing I want is the dealer to tell me is that Its my fault

    Do you know if the 06's and the 07's stock harnesses are very different in terms of electrical ratings?

    I really like the HIDs but I want to investigate every avenues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdathree View Post
    true....

    The after market kits that i have come across so far are all plug and play....the thing that would worry me is that the stock harness that has all the switching functions in the 2006 M3 has sufficient current and power ratings to handle the HID without causing burnouts and any other possible electrical hazards.....I know there is the relay method to bypass this and other mods to run the DRLs but I'd like to keep my car as stock as possible for warranty issues....the last thing I want is the dealer to tell me is that Its my fault

    Do you know if the 06's and the 07's stock harnesses are very different in terms of electrical ratings?

    I really like the HIDs but I want to investigate every avenues...
    I haven't had trouble cause of power or wires. That being said, just make sure everything is as water proof as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuman View Post
    I haven't had trouble cause of power or wires. That being said, just make sure everything is as water proof as you can.
    ok..

    This site gives the explanation of the problems that can be caused to the HIDs in cars that have the DRLs and the Auto Light function. Read the Trouble shooting section on this page....I just wanted to share this with people new to HID and want to know more....This site may have been refered to before on this forum....

    http://www.gohid.com/information.php

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    If you have hids as your DRLs dont think there is a problem as they always stay on, even in tunnels with Auto feature being on. Only thing is they wear out quicker, but hey they last life time of the car anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_o_k_x View Post
    If you have hids as your DRLs dont think there is a problem as they always stay on, even in tunnels with Auto feature being on. Only thing is they wear out quicker, but hey they last life time of the car anyways.
    The only problem that i have been hearing on the forum for HIDs as DRLs is the flash to pass problem if I correctly understand what Devin is saying on one of the threads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_o_k_x View Post
    If you have hids as your DRLs dont think there is a problem as they always stay on, even in tunnels with Auto feature being on. Only thing is they wear out quicker, but hey they last life time of the car anyways.
    As long as the lights are running at full power. They CAN'T run at a reduced voltage, otherwise you will damage the HIDs.

    Quote Originally Posted by mazdathree View Post
    The only problem that i have been hearing on the forum for HIDs as DRLs is the flash to pass problem if I correctly understand what Devin is saying on one of the threads....
    That has been resolved with a simple mod so I wouldn't think that is really a problem anymore.

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    Yeah, run at full power, lights will blink at cold start up, but nothing serious. Not sure if thats what you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_o_k_x View Post
    Yeah, run at full power, lights will blink at cold start up, but nothing serious. Not sure if thats what you mean
    Lights shouldn't blink...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwp_sedan View Post
    Lights shouldn't blink...
    What do you mean? Mine's are bypassed through heater fuse i think, so its always stays on at full power when car starts, it would blink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_o_k_x View Post
    What do you mean? Mine's are bypassed through heater fuse i think, so its always stays on at full power when car starts, it would blink.
    Although, I'm unsure what you mean by heater fuse, it shouldn't blink.
    I used Devin's relay, if that helps.

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    Its like that I guess so that when you start your car, the fuse would provide full power, but not 7v.. anyways as long as it works and there is no harm.

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    HID lights would flicker (blink if you rather call it as) if the voltage from the battery at start up has not stabilized yet...the ballast provides the bulbs with the required voltage to light it (no flicker)...but at start up the ballast does not detect a stable voltage at its inputs from the battery and therefore is not able to provide the bulbs with the required voltage and hence flicker...it could reduce the life span of the HID bulbs as they are sensitive to voltage....in some cases the ballast electronics upon detecting unstabillized voltage at the inputs would cause it to shut down and therefore no lights.....

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    In the Prolumen Instructions it says to replace a fuse when installing HIDs. What is the purpose of this? And is it necessary in a 2007 model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdathree View Post
    HID lights would flicker (blink if you rather call it as) if the voltage from the battery at start up has not stabilized yet...the ballast provides the bulbs with the required voltage to light it (no flicker)...but at start up the ballast does not detect a stable voltage at its inputs from the battery and therefore is not able to provide the bulbs with the required voltage and hence flicker...it could reduce the life span of the HID bulbs as they are sensitive to voltage....in some cases the ballast electronics upon detecting unstabillized voltage at the inputs would cause it to shut down and therefore no lights.....
    Nicely said, although I been told that It doesnt really effect life span of the bulbs. Maybe a tiny bit, but if all wired up properly, ballasts should not shut down ever. I had couple of experiences where I had to turn on and off the car every minute or so, and it would still hold strong. It also depends on the quality of the kit.

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    Saw some old posts about the shadow patterns with prolumen 6000k hids. Had a few questions..
    Do all prolumen kits with 6000 k bulbs come with the shadows now?

    Is it just 6000k or do other temps like 4300k also come with the shadow??

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrasher View Post
    Saw some old posts about the shadow patterns with prolumen 6000k hids. Had a few questions..
    Do all prolumen kits with 6000 k bulbs come with the shadows now?

    Is it just 6000k or do other temps like 4300k also come with the shadow??
    It's the orientation of the bulb, not the colour output. I've gotten used to it even though it could look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwp_sedan View Post
    It's the orientation of the bulb, not the colour output. I've gotten used to it even though it could look better.
    +1

    its probably due to the way the bulb sits in the projector housing

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    Anyone know where I can get the relays? I have 6000K for my lows and fogs for my 04 hatch.

    Are there instructions to installing the relays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastNugly View Post
    Anyone know where I can get the relays? I have 6000K for my lows and fogs for my 04 hatch.

    Are there instructions to installing the relays?
    contact SSG at NextMod he may have some else go to this site:

    http://www.thexenonstore.com/HID.php

    its USD 25.00
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    Thanks.

    Is this what most members went with or something similar? Anyone sell it locally for a little less? I know it was spoken about already, but will this help or is this what I need for my 04 Hatch?

    I assume I wouldnt need this for my fogs as I will be putting HID's on them too.

    Thanks again.

    Quote Originally Posted by mazdathree View Post
    contact SSG at NextMod he may have some else go to this site:

    http://www.thexenonstore.com/HID.php

    its USD 25.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastNugly View Post
    Thanks.

    Is this what most members went with or something similar? Anyone sell it locally for a little less? I know it was spoken about already, but will this help or is this what I need for my 04 Hatch?

    I assume I wouldnt need this for my fogs as I will be putting HID's on them too.

    Thanks again.
    Lot of members on this forum who own 04s-06s mazda's are using this harness and its been working fine for them. Some make one of their own. I dont know anyone else who sells it for a little less. Since you have an 04, you'll have to disable your drls or relocate them to high beams or fogs. This harness will enable you to bypass your drls and supply power to your low beam HIDs directly from the battery. You'll not need a harness for the fogs.

    The install instructions of this harness can be found here:
    http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11629

    do a little search on the how to section of this forum there is a lot of information there.

    I also found out that if you want to keep your drls as low beams (for 04s-06s) and also have HIDs on your low beams then you can also use something called the antiflicker cable. Its already discussed here (read the whole thread as it has useful links):

    http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...ad.php?t=27008

    hope that helps.

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    Quick question, temperature outputs are based on the bulb itself and not the ballast & the bulb, correct? Question I am asking is if I want to change the temperature colours, can I just replace the bulbs and keep my ballasts? (I know its about the same price or a little bit more to get a whole kit, I'm planning on just picking up some used bulbs for significantly cheaper.) Thanks in advance!

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    Thats correct..

    You only need to replace the bulbs to get the colour temperature you want. No need to replace the ballast or to buy the entire new kit!

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