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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Were you not just reading the thread guys? Our car has 156hp (At the crank).

    The dyno results on the previous page show 123 wheel horsepower. I'm not backwards. Its drivetrain losses.

    Although your car may put out tons of torque in first gear, its not a measure of its true power. But on that note, I don't know the details of how a dyno calculates the exact power at the wheels.
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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    man i am so confused with what you're typing..

    first run (no cai)
    Max HP = 123.46
    Max Torque = 130.76

    Second run (with Fujita Cold Air Intake)
    Max HP = 134.38!
    Max Torque = 139.75!

    Final Results 10.92 HP Gain!! and 8.99 Torque Gain!!
    the 10HP gain is at the wheels!

    thebiz and sean80 are talking about the [advertised] ~10HP difference (crank) between the gx/gs and gt models..

    if we compare the stock numbers to what zubby got we get
    156HP/150TQ (crank/advertised) vs. 123HP/131TQ (wheels) which translates into 21% and 13% losses respectively

    if we use the same losses (gross generalization), 148HP/135TQ (crank) would be 117HP/117TQ (wheels) for the 2.0L engines..

    and if you want to translate his WHP gains to what the advertised ones would be then.. 134HP/140TQ (wheels) would be 170HP/161TQ (advertised)

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    man i just can't believe that we lost so much from crank...also, i thought the M3 2.3L put out 163 not 156...or did the HP rating changed over the years?

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    I really want to put my car on dyno as i want to see how the 5 speed auto with my mods will do.

    I remember lawrence did a dyno on his 4 speed auto stock to the bone 3 put out 129whp IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearly View Post
    I remember lawrence did a dyno on his 4 speed auto stock to the bone 3 put out 129whp IIRC.
    That's seems kinda high for a stock automatic 3. Makes me think even more that my stock manual 3 shoulda put out more than 123whp.
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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Yea, Maj, thats exactly what I was saying, I didn't know that the GS/GX had 148, I thought it has less. Also, I did mix up my numbers before.

    But like I was saying, its not just the 5hp differnace you notice in the 2.0L because its such a minute amount.

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    thanks for the clarification majic!

    all i can say is when i test drove the 2.0 and then the 2.3.....i made sure it was a 2.3 that i got. It just felt much stronger than the 2.0.

    and on a side note: i test drove a cobalt ss right before going to mazda, and I swear the 2.3 mazda is a faster car

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=7497
    3rd one down you'll see xenon with 127WHP stock to the bone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughboyr6 View Post
    man i just can't believe that we lost so much from crank...also, i thought the M3 2.3L put out 163 not 156...or did the HP rating changed over the years?
    Mine's a 06 and it's rated at 160Hp, the 07's are 156Hp. I think it's something to do with the SAE, but really it's the same engine.

    I think Xenon's dyno is more accurate since he lost about 20% of the rated Hp which is around the amount autos are suppose to lose. So I think a manual should be around 136Hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearly View Post
    I really want to put my car on dyno as i want to see how the 5 speed auto with my mods will do.

    I remember lawrence did a dyno on his 4 speed auto stock to the bone 3 put out 129whp IIRC.
    I would split on a dyno day if it was in the mississauga area...

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    I want to wait until i put the Motul 300V oil in there.

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    This is just another case to prove that hatch's are better than sedan's
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    ^^ Especially white. =P

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    I'm not a hater. But there is no F'N way a CAI gave you 10HP.

    So I guess in winter your car pulls 200hp???

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Sabs its right on the dyno sheet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SABIO View Post
    I'm not a hater. But there is no F'N way a CAI gave you 10HP.

    So I guess in winter your car pulls 200hp???
    Then I guess ur right and the dyno was wrong. i'm just tellin u what the dyno read.

    *i know u can't see the actual numbers on the sheet cuz i can't get a good pic on my cpu, but once i'm able to reach to one of these meets i'll make sure to bring it.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by SABIO View Post
    I'm not a hater. But there is no F'N way a CAI gave you 10HP.

    So I guess in winter your car pulls 200hp???

    On the Fujita website their Dyno sheet recorded a 8.84hp gain and a 5.73 torque gain.

    Basline= 135.19hp, 136.26tq
    CAI = 144.03hp, 141.99tq

    Here is the link http://www.f5air.com/images/dyno/06%20mazda%203.GIF

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    10 hp gain to the wheels from just a CAI is a little insane, something is whack with the dyno reading.

    Im not doubting the product, but your dyno is showing better gains than adverties by fujita themselves. lol
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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    It's possible that the fujita is spiking at over 10 hp within a very narrow band based on other dynos I've seen with just that CAI on. Usually it posts hp losses until about 3.5k, spikes, then settles into the 3-5 hp range. I used to have it. The CAI inself was great. The service, not so much.

    His graph was pretty linear. I'm surprised.
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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut12 View Post
    The CAI inself was great. The service, not so much.
    You had problems with the intake ?

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    The guy shipped me the intake after guaranteeing a certain price including shipping and duty. The box itself was damaged and poorly packaged so I sent it back. Then it got ugly. I called him out on the fact that he had promised certain things but had not delivered, so he called me a liar.

    Luckily he was stupid enough to say everything in e-mail, so I posted the entire conversation to the forum where he was a vendor. This pissed him off even more because it made him look like an idiot and he lost business because of it.

    End of story is that I got my money back after a few months and learned my lesson.

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Did u ever have it installed on ur car??

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Yes. I ended up finding it through someone else, and used it until I installed my current one. It worked well.

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    What was ur reason for removing it?

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    Default Re: Mazda 3 GT With Fujita CAI

    Quote Originally Posted by zub88 View Post
    What was ur reason for removing it?
    I'm an idiot.

    I overoiled the filter so it kept throwing cels, and my local mazda parts guy had a really good deal on so I switched to the MazdaSpeed one. Mazda speed had just changed the warranty classification so that it gave me a warranty instead of nothing like it used to.

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