Discussion of S.F.W.'s for sale thread without pictures

[cwp_sedan]

I'm fine with not having any pics for them as I, as well as many others know these are currently on Ami's car. All I would suggest (to clam up those complaining about it) is to take a pic of them from underneath...if you can get underneath to take a pic.

I understand the rules are in place to protect all members but in some rare cases there are exceptions, and this is one of those cases. Since this time it's a mod everyone is having a fit. If someone is actually interested in purchasing these from Ami, go in person and see them. This will be even better than a picture with his name on it.

[aris]

In my opion he should be able to do what he wants cause he is a moderator!

My $.02

[06Touring3]

In my opion he should be able to do what he wants cause he is a moderator!

My $.02

Which is exactly why someone in that position should be more inclined to follow the rules they helped put in place. Sets the right example.

But I do see your point and don't disagree (before someone thinks I'm attacking a mod again)

[Iceman_F1]

In my opion he should be able to do what he wants cause he is a moderator!

My $.02

So based on that, police officers can speed whenever they want, ignore other traffic laws when not rushing to a call just because they are police officers? Since, that's basically what it boils down to...

Which is exactly why someone in that position should be more inclined to follow the rules they helped put in place. Sets the right example.

But I do see your point and don't disagree (before someone thinks I'm attacking a mod again)

I agree with this statement. People in a position of power should be more inclined to follow the rules to set the example for everyone else.

Just adding my thoughts really...My "official position" about the thread in question is still have whatever pictures can be done while the items are still on the car...and if possible, have a sign still to say who the seller is and the date.

[Fobio]

In my opion he should be able to do what he wants cause he is a moderator!

My $.02

actually, I think whether Ami's a mod or not is irrelevant. Nobody made a stink about my ad (but I did have pics), but ppl are being "rubbed the wrong way" cuz it's Ami/a mod's ad? Sure, perhaps, mods SHOULD be held to a higher standard, but that's a different topic. Whether Ami's ad has/need pics or not should have nothing to do with whether he's a mod or not...and the fact that I PERSONALLY feel this ad is OK because 1) it's Ami (not because he's a mod), 2) they're on the car, 3) you can make arrangements to see them yourself.

Furthermore, I tend to think this particular discussion is healthy, esp to revisit what ppl think of mods and how to contiually improve the relationship between the mods and the board... so ppl know mods are ppl too and so are guys on board.

[emcdonnell]

No system is perfect. The reality is that no one set of rules will allow for all possible situations. As a result mods are forced to make judgemnt calls. Seeing as they are veteran members and know the forums best, they are most qualified to make such calls. The mods are human and will make mistakes. Even if they occasionally take advantage of their authority I would consider to be reasonable compensation for the service that they provide (within reason).


Personally I appreciate the job that they do. The rules exist to deal with abuses of the forums and there members. If it can be reasonably determined that there is no abuse occuring then why throw the rule book at people. This is a casual forum not the military.

[cwp_sedan]

In my opion he should be able to do what he wants cause he is a moderator!

My $.02

Uh, I don't necessarily agree with this statement, as mods should follow the rules just like everyone else. I know Ami as a person and am fine with the way his current FS thread even if he wasn't a Mod. Yes mods have more flexibility which is how it should be anyway.

[aris]

So based on that, police officers can speed whenever they want, ignore other traffic laws when not rushing to a call just because they are police officers? Since, that's basically what it boils down to...



I agree with this statement. People in a position of power should be more inclined to follow the rules to set the example for everyone else.

Just adding my thoughts really...My "official position" about the thread in question is still have whatever pictures can be done while the items are still on the car...and if possible, have a sign still to say who the seller is and the date.

Every time i put anything for sale on this fourm i never had any problems with the mods..The rules are for us not them!!!

[aris]

Uh, I don't necessarily agree with this statement, as mods should follow the rules just like everyone else. I know Ami as a person and am fine with the way his current FS thread even if he wasn't a Mod. Yes mods have more flexibility which is how it should be anyway.

I own my own bussiness and their is rules for my employess to follow...The rules were not set for me to follow.

[06Touring3]

Every time i put anything for sale on this fourm i never had any problems with the mods..The rules are for us not them!!!

How do you figure the rules are not for them???

They are the ones who created the rules so it is ESPECIALLY important for mods to follow them. Or else how can they enforce them and expect people to listen?

[06Touring3]

I own my own bussiness and their is rules for my employess to follow...The rules were not set for me to follow.

How can you make a statement like that when you own your own business? How can you enforce your own rules if you don't follow them?

That is some messed up logic right there

[Noisy Crow]

Personally I appreciate the job that they do. The rules exist to deal with abuses of the forums and there members. If it can be reasonably determined that there is no abuse occuring then why throw the rule book at people. This is a casual forum not the military.

Every time i put anything for sale on this fourm i never had any problems with the mods..The rules are for us not them!!!

+1000

Common sense should prevail.... please, please, PLEASE let's avoid nit-picky blind adherence to a precise set of rules simply because "they are the rules". There is nothing like going all legalistic for crushing the enjoyment out of something.

[Cardinal Fang]

Every time i put anything for sale on this fourm i never had any problems with the mods..The rules are for us not them!!!

Uh....let me just say that I disagree with this.

[06Touring3]

Uh....let me just say that I disagree with this.

Thank God!

[Noisy Crow]

Every time i put anything for sale on this fourm i never had any problems with the mods..The rules are for us not them!!!

Uh....let me just say that I disagree with this.

I read this as meaning the rules are for us, and we are not for the rules. We being ALL members, mods and non-mods.

[Cardinal Fang]

Thank God!

1. He's too busy with the Swine Flu to be concerned with forum rules.
2. It was a silly statement.

[aris]

How can you make a statement like that when you own your own business? How can you enforce your own rules if you don't follow them?

That is some messed up logic right there

OK thats your opion and it's fare enough...
Their is no need to get all worked up about all this..realy who cares if he bends the rules or not..i couldn't care less..i just stated my opion earlier and for some reason you think that you need to jump down my back..

[aris]

Uh....let me just say that I disagree with this.

Fare enough

1. He's too busy with the Swine Flu to be concerned with forum rules.
2. It was a silly statement.

No i do not have the Swine Flu..i was just stating my personal opion

[06Touring3]

OK thats your opion and it's fare enough...
Their is no need to get all worked up about all this..realy who cares if he bends the rules or not..i couldn't care less..i just stated my opion earlier and for some reason you think that you need to jump down my back..

lol I'm ok

[Kevin@nextmod]

Um...Why can't you take pics of your suspension? Here is an example of how strict the civic site is. You HAVE to provide pics with your handle in order to keep the thread alive.

[Kevin@nextmod]

I'm not trying to cause any troubles here but you can easily get under the car and put your handle on it especially on the 3 because you can see the springs and shocks seperately. I'm not saying i dont trust ami and i for sure do because hes a stand up guy and i believe him. But i think rules are set to follow and exceptions should not be applied.

Another thing about vouching for other members should not be trusted. For say, i can post something up for sale now, and i'm sure a few members here can vouch for me but what if i was planning to scam someone? The buy of my product blames me and the people that vouched for me.

[KenYork]

I find exceptions like this should be legit for members that attend meets regularly and have the item on their car.
What I mean is that they are showing their cars regulary including the item for sale and the proof is at the meet for all to see and criticize. Show up to B&B tonite he'll be there and so will his suspension.

[06Touring3]

I find exceptions like this should be legit for members that attend meets regularly and have the item on their car.
What I mean is that they are showing their cars regulary including the item for sale and the proof is at the meet for all to see and criticize. Show up to B&B tonite he'll be there and so will his suspension.

Not everyone can make it to meets that Ami goes to. Or meets in general.

[KenYork]

Not everyone can make it to meets that Ami goes to. Or meets in general.

I was refering to meets in general, and the point is the credability of having an item(not Ami situation specifically).




Couldn't we have just avoided all of this by just asking for actual pics? We do that with all other members.

[FLIPDADY]

Okay someone take a picture of Ami's shocks already!