TRAFFIC TICKET SOOO BS

[dadinho_nfg]

got pulled over today in toronto for avoiding a stupid driver who decided to do a U turn in the middle of know where. i had to, for a split second, jump into the right lane, that during the hours of 7am-9am are for buses and taxis only and teh F******* big gave me a ticket
making matteres worse, he gave me a second ticket for 65 dollars that says " failure to submit insurance card" when i fully gave him my DRL, INSURANCE and REGISTRATION

FML

what should i do? ideas? stories from the past?

its worth 3 points...so gay

[JonsMazda]

Fight it in court!

[RedRaptor]

Cops are jerks.

Go to court.

[dadinho_nfg]

OH I AMMMM
this is my first time being pulled over and he had no pitty...either way, i went and stood in line for 3 hrs to get a forum to say that i want to fight it
what are my options?
- if he doesnt should up, i win, dont have to pay ANYTHING no points NADA...
- if he shows up i lose?
- or if he shows up. they will still reduce is and take the points offf...
i heard if u say ur guilty they will reduce and take off points
but honestly, i aint guilty...

[RedRaptor]

I just went to court and chances are, the cop will show up.

You will be offered a guilty plea for a reduction of 1 demerit point and a reduction in fine.

[zoso]

i would argue that you had to switch lanes or hit the guy because of his bad you turn. But now how far did you travel in the restricted lane?


As for the insurance card, there is a difference in not having the card and not having insurance, show you card in court that cover the vehicle for the date in question and they they will throw it out.

[bukjoe]

honestly... go to www.xcopper.com .... they will fight it for u and they will win... Let's just say.. I've used them a "few" times and they have never failed me. Don't pay the tickets because your Insurance will definitely take a hit and honestly... it will stay on your record for a few years which is so no worth it ....

Sounds like it's totally not your fault but you definitely have to fight it...

[m_bisson]

I'm betting the thread starter is lying to us. The guy doing the U-turn probably signalled properly and gave the thread starter plenty of time to slow down/stop, but rather than waiting for the u-turn to be completed he decided to drive in the closed lane to pass. This is similar to passing someone on the gravel shoulder if you're on a country road.

[PearlM3]

I'm betting the thread starter is lying to us. The guy doing the U-turn probably signalled properly and gave the thread starter plenty of time to slow down/stop, but rather than waiting for the u-turn to be completed he decided to drive in the closed lane to pass. This is similar to passing someone on the gravel shoulder if you're on a country road.

+100000000000000000000000

And then probably mouthed off to the cop!

[07m3gt]

I'm betting the thread starter is lying to us. The guy doing the U-turn probably signalled properly and gave the thread starter plenty of time to slow down/stop, but rather than waiting for the u-turn to be completed he decided to drive in the closed lane to pass. This is similar to passing someone on the gravel shoulder if you're on a country road.

+100000000000000000000000

And then probably mouthed off to the cop!

soo smart guys why did he give him the insurance tickets? an if he did mouth off, it doesn't give the Cop/Pig the right to lie!

[siin]

honestly... go to www.xcopper.com .... they will fight it for u and they will win... Let's just say.. I've used them a "few" times and they have never failed me. Don't pay the tickets because your Insurance will definitely take a hit and honestly... it will stay on your record for a few years which is so no worth it ....

Sounds like it's totally not your fault but you definitely have to fight it...

I've read in various forums that places like xcopper consider a win by lowering your ticket. You can pretty much just show up yourself and do that.. If you want someone to actually fight to have the ticket thrown out I highly recommend redline legal services

http://charged.ca/

Like I said they fight in your behalf to have the ticket thrown out since a conviction whether lowered or not is still a conviction on your record..

Gl

[RedRaptor]

I'm betting the thread starter is lying to us. The guy doing the U-turn probably signalled properly and gave the thread starter plenty of time to slow down/stop, but rather than waiting for the u-turn to be completed he decided to drive in the closed lane to pass. This is similar to passing someone on the gravel shoulder if you're on a country road.

Typical response from one of the cops on the forum.

You don't even know the OP.

[m_bisson]

You don't even know the cOP.

(see what I did there?)

[MPS]

crap we got pigs here now ?

Typical response from one of the cops on the forum.

You don't even know the OP.

[Roconne]

i heard if u say ur guilty they will reduce and take off points
but honestly, i aint guilty...

How can you say you aren't guilty when admit to going into the restricted lane in your OP? Doesn't matter what the reason for you going into it was... You can plead your case and if the judge believes what you are saying and feels compassionate he can reduce the ticket. But I don't see how you can say you 'aint guilty'. If you say you have valid insurance, bring that to court with you and the judge will throw that ticket out.

[VaderX]

For the insurance charge, just get an appointment with the prosecutor and they should cancel the ticket for you. I know many who have done this for not having insurance card/expired registration.

[Ogata]

As for the lane change...that is questionable without a witness. As for your insurance, how did the cop issueyou a ticket for invalid insurance? Was it expired or?

[ovie8]

i got a ticket couple weeks ago for a similar offense in DT TO specifically on Bay St in front of the TD tower....

Right lane was restricted from 7am - 7pm...there was a left turn car at the intersection, so the 2 cars in front of me, myself and the car behind me all changed to the right then changed back after crossing the intersection. Of course there was a cop on foot that pulled all four of us over....once he finished ticketing the car in front of me...he was writing mine up before he even got to my window. The ticket was for $110 but he said it doesn't carry any demerits pts...so is the demerit pts charged on you for the failing to provide insurance??

Sigh...on my way back he was still here and had another couple cars pulled over....i bet it was for the exact same offense....

[dadinho_nfg]

dude this is exactly what happened to me, but instead the loser infront of my HONEStLYT did make a UNEXPECT U Turn.....
I called Xcopper, they said its 350 dollars....the insruance is up to date. what did you do about it? did it get resolved? how much did you paY?

as for demerit points, i dont know if there are any points, ive never gotten a tickey before, how would i know? the lady at xcopper said it would be about 3 points, so thats what im going with....


as for who ever thinks i have nothing better to do with my time, then come and MAKE up stories about this, you guys are losers and can believe whatever you want. i made this post so i know what options i have, not to be questioned if i mouthed off or had something wrong with my insurance or my story.

[aris]

What was the actual ticket for?

Also are you sure your ticket for your insurance slip is only $65?

My dad got nailed a few years ago with that ticket cause the slip hd had in his truck was expired and it was $75

[dadinho_nfg]

no man, thats why its sooo frusterating, i gave him my insurance, its valid everything!!!! its unrealll

i dont know how to post pics of my ticket or else i would

[Ogata]

no man, thats why its sooo frusterating, i gave him my insurance, its valid everything!!!! its unrealll

i dont know how to post pics of my ticket or else i would

What EXACTLY did the cop say on why your insurance is valid? They must have given you an explanation.

[dadinho_nfg]

What EXACTLY did the cop say on why your insurance is valid? They must have given you an explanation.

honestly he didnt, he asked for all 3 things and i gave it to him....he took about 20 mins in his car, by this time i was late for work, when he brought my the ticket, he said heres the tickets, there is 2 of them, i thought maybe my violation was in two parts only when i got to work did i notice i had been given a ticket for my insurance. i am going to try to call them tomorrow, and get a hold on that acutal cop and ask him for a explaination

[RedRaptor]

no man, thats why its sooo frusterating, i gave him my insurance, its valid everything!!!! its unrealll

i dont know how to post pics of my ticket or else i would

I'm not surprised at all by some of the things cops pull nowadays. He probably gave you an extra ticket because he didn't like you. Why you may ask? It doesn't matter. Cops don't need reason or use logic when they are on their power trips....oops I meant "on duty".

[dadinho_nfg]

im with u on that one... i was told that maybe calling them directly isnt a great idea, but i want justice and i demand to know the reason for that second ticket. those are the 2 biggest things that are pissing me off, one bc i drive that way every day and see cars drive on that lane for kms and i used it for 2 secs to avoid another car, and the fact i got a ticket for soemthing i gave him ( insurance paper )