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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy View Post
    Yeah, because the torque spec on those bolts is 71-84 in-lb...so like 6ft-lbs...a 1/4 drive ratchet you can pretty easily do 20-30ft-lbs without even realizing it.
    Oh I forgot about that when I did mine. Yea basically hand tight then 1/4 to a 1/2 turn is pretty much all you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy View Post
    Yeah, because the torque spec on those bolts is 71-84 in-lb...so like 6ft-lbs...a 1/4 drive ratchet you can pretty easily do 20-30ft-lbs without even realizing it.
    I was gentle but yes I easily over did it... I am just happy I didn't break the bolt off but I goofed and paid the price...

    New valve cover and gasket on the way, no used ones on the market and I want the improved flow for the PCV system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwdunmore View Post
    I was gentle but yes I easily over did it... I am just happy I didn't break the bolt off but I goofed and paid the price...

    New valve cover and gasket on the way, no used ones on the market and I want the improved flow for the PCV system.
    Yea I'll likely be looking st the gen2 cover st some point as well. I'll just do that over the winter along with installation of a vented catch can. Have one now but not vented. For now just have the speedperformance vented oil cap for the gen1 valve cover.

    Gotta get some of that stuff cleaned up in the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    Yea I'll likely be looking st the gen2 cover st some point as well. I'll just do that over the winter along with installation of a vented catch can. Have one now but not vented. For now just have the speedperformance vented oil cap for the gen1 valve cover.

    Gotta get some of that stuff cleaned up in the offseason.
    do NOT run that vented oil cap for the Gen1 valve cover at the track. With no baffle under the spout, oil (not just oil vapour) will come pouring out of the filter. The repeated WOT at the track will just saturate the cap filter and the oil will just drip down the side of the motor and over the engine bay.

    I was down about half a litre of oil after a 15 minute session at TMP (the one and only time I ran the vented oil cap at the track...i was just lucky that the oil didn't catch fire on the exhaust manifold)... at 24 psi and oem oil cap, I had no issues with the dipstick lifting/popping or anything so I didn't really need the vented oil cap.

    A vented catch can, sure ... a vented oil cap, even with the gen2 valve cover, is a no no at the track as you absolutely do not want any oil spray going onto the exhaust manifold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajesticBlueNTO View Post
    do NOT run that vented oil cap for the Gen1 valve cover at the track. With no baffle under the spout, oil (not just oil vapour) will come pouring out of the filter. The repeated WOT at the track will just saturate the cap filter and the oil will just drip down the side of the motor and over the engine bay.

    I was down about half a litre of oil after a 15 minute session at TMP (the one and only time I ran the vented oil cap at the track...i was just lucky that the oil didn't catch fire on the exhaust manifold)... at 24 psi and oem oil cap, I had no issues with the dipstick lifting/popping or anything so I didn't really need the vented oil cap.

    A vented catch can, sure ... a vented oil cap, even with the gen2 valve cover, is a no no at the track as you absolutely do not want any oil spray going onto the exhaust manifold.
    Good to know. Yea, it's always been intended to be a temporary setup but looking like I need to boost the priority of the vented catch can setup. Looking like I'll just switch back to the stock oil cap then

    (I'm only running stock boost right now, and even then, I'm not even boosting as I'm still waiting for a proper tune. Only thing is some MAF calibration in the short term.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    Good to know. Yea, it's always been intended to be a temporary setup but looking like I need to boost the priority of the vented catch can setup. Looking like I'll just switch back to the stock oil cap then

    (I'm only running stock boost right now, and even then, I'm not even boosting as I'm still waiting for a proper tune. Only thing is some MAF calibration in the short term.)
    with the stock oil cap, at stock boost, even with a conservative 20 psi on that 2871, the worst that'll happen is oil in the intercooler piping.... and that's far better than an engine fire.

    tbh, the vented oil cap wasn't an issue on the street. the fact that WOT logs on the street didn't show any signs of oil dripping out the vented cap lulled me into a false sense of security to run the vented oil cap at the track. however, it's the constant WOT on-off-on-off for minutes on end that'll lead to the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajesticBlueNTO View Post
    with the stock oil cap, at stock boost, even with a conservative 20 psi on that 2871, the worst that'll happen is oil in the intercooler piping.... and that's far better than an engine fire.

    tbh, the vented oil cap wasn't an issue on the street. the fact that WOT logs on the street didn't show any signs of oil dripping out the vented cap lulled me into a false sense of security to run the vented oil cap at the track. however, it's the constant WOT on-off-on-off for minutes on end that'll lead to the issue.
    Thanks for the feedback based on experience! You're right. Engine fires are not ideal.

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    Ok strange question anyone have suggestions on how best to remove the symtech coating from under the engine bay?

    Car is not a daily and sits in the garage. Won't see any more winters. It's a track car now so not looking to make it show room but the 10 year old symtech just looks like caked on grease and dirt, so I'd like to make it a bit more presentable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    Ok strange question anyone have suggestions on how best to remove the symtech coating from under the engine bay?

    Car is not a daily and sits in the garage. Won't see any more winters. It's a track car now so not looking to make it show room but the 10 year old symtech just looks like caked on grease and dirt, so I'd like to make it a bit more presentable.
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    rustproofing makes you faster
    But I like the natural speed holes...

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    The speed section is a ghost town. Who is tracking their speed?
    Oh damn, that sucks. Oh well, I stopped reading the Speed section because according to certain people only speed owners are allowed to even look at that section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakfasteatre View Post
    The speed section is a ghost town. Who is tracking their speed?
    I have Ian Law track school setup for Oct 6th. Hoping to get out first time Sept 18th evening at TMP. Plan is to track a bunch next year. Build took a bit longer than I wanted but it is what it is.

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    The speed section is a ghost town. Who is tracking their speed?
    Also a ghost town because everyone parting out for Miatas

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    I have Ian Law track school setup for Oct 6th. Hoping to get out first time Sept 18th evening at TMP. Plan is to track a bunch next year. Build took a bit longer than I wanted but it is what it is.

    Tuning with Vince tonight.
    How much power are you expecting and what is your experience level at the track?

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakfasteatre View Post
    How much power are you expecting and what is your experience level at the track?
    I expect the car will make somewhere in the 340-360ish whp range, but I'll know after tonight. For track, I plan to bring that back down closer to 300-320 whp.

    No track experience. Autocross runs + autocross school, and 3 years of sim racing experience on iRacing (lolz amirite?). Hence the track school in October

    PS: you own a Speed now, so you can look at the Speed forums again (I know what car you bought! )

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    The speed section is a ghost town. Who is tracking their speed?
    Iím getting into it. Hitting Cayuga Monday weather permitting


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    Does anyone here have an extra BPV laying around? I have a feeling my Forge V2 BPV may be the thing causing my boost leak.

    It would be a huge help as it would save me from buying one just to test my theory out.

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    Does anyone here have an extra BPV laying around? I have a feeling my Forge V2 BPV may be the thing causing my boost leak.

    It would be a huge help as it would save me from buying one just to test my theory out.
    I have a stock one here you can come try out. Shoot me a msg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    I have a stock one here you can come try out. Shoot me a msg.
    I doubt the stocker will hold 24psi+, thanks though. I ordered a service kit for the Forge V2 which apparently gets a revised piston that has an O-ring on the bottom to seal better.

    I am hoping this fixes the issue and it only costed me $17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwdunmore View Post
    I doubt the stocker will hold 24psi+, thanks though. I ordered a service kit for the Forge V2 which apparently gets a revised piston that has an O-ring on the bottom to seal better.

    I am hoping this fixes the issue and it only costed me $17.
    Ah gotcha, makes sense lol. I also have a forge v2 that is likely in need of service. What kit did you order?

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    https://www.forgemotorsport.com/Forg...duct--792.html
    Then you pick from the scroll down to - FMDVMAZ3S

    I put the two shims in (already have the red spring installed) it seems to hold better but still leaks. When I inspected the piston it is pretty scored on the sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwdunmore View Post
    https://www.forgemotorsport.com/Forg...duct--792.html
    Then you pick from the scroll down to - FMDVMAZ3S

    I put the two shims in (already have the red spring installed) it seems to hold better but still leaks. When I inspected the piston it is pretty scored on the sides.
    Thanks boss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    Thanks boss!
    The revised piston is supposed to have an o-ring at the bottom, maybe your newer valve has this feature. Mine is from the Original run of the V2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwdunmore View Post
    The revised piston is supposed to have an o-ring at the bottom, maybe your newer valve has this feature. Mine is from the Original run of the V2's.
    I'll have to look. I bought this used a while ago so it's likely the same. Do you mean the O ring on the mounting bracket that mates with the IC aluminum housing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift8 View Post
    I'll have to look. I bought this used a while ago so it's likely the same. Do you mean the O ring on the mounting bracket that mates with the IC aluminum housing?
    No, the piston itself has an o-ring on the bottom that stops it from cracking open under higher boost.

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