Random MS3 Chat Thread

[shift8]

Bilstein B12 ordered. Can't wait to install them. Curious how the ProKits will feel after they break in. Either way I expect suspension to feel better than my old and busted stock suspension

Rears are fine but pretty sure the fronts are original. No leaks, but still pretty soft.

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[Dave_The_BMXER]

So my smoking turbo is (surprise) not getting any better. So I am leaning toward S3 or CS turbo (wise financial choices and wife me damned)

If anyone is getting rid of supporting mods later summer HMU.

[Reddie1337]

Funny enough, I was just about to come in here and ask about Turbo issues.

My 2012 Speed with 187k on it is losing oil, like 1-1.5L per 2500km. I am seeing zero smoke, nothing abnormal. Thought it might be a clogged PCV, so I changed that, and I am still going through oil.

I was thinking maybe the turbo is leaking oil only into the exhaust side of the turbo and it would be going straight though my exhaust without causing smoke. Has anyone else seen this before? Just incase people are wondering, compression is good, no leaks on the outside of the engine from anywhere. So its internal, but I am not actually burning the oil. That's what's confusing me so much.

Thanks!

[SomeGuy]

I'd expect the catalytic converter would be enough to burn any oil leaking hot side of the turbo...you should get smoke. Get the vehicle up to temp and idle it for a while, that's usually where smoking turbo's show. There's really only two places for the oil to go, on the ground or burnt out the exhaust....but I'd expect you to know that anyway.

[loki]

Maybe his car vapes


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[Reddie1337]

I wish!

Normally I'd agree with you, I am only seeing the regular black smoke when you stomp on it, I do remote start my car every time, after letting the turbo timer shut it off 1-3 minutes after driving. And I never see smoke when I'm walking out to it. I always check.


-Reddie

[pwdunmore]

I wish!

Normally I'd agree with you, I am only seeing the regular black smoke when you stomp on it, I do remote start my car every time, after letting the turbo timer shut it off 1-3 minutes after driving. And I never see smoke when I'm walking out to it. I always check.


-Reddie

You tuned? You done a compression or leak down test?

That type of oil consumption is something not to be taken lightly on a stock engine. Forged engines burn a little bit because of the extra clearances but I don't even burn that much from 5000km on a forged engine.

I would suspect a cracked ringland...

[shift8]

You tuned? You done a compression or leak down test?

That type of oil consumption is something not to be taken lightly.

Did someone say part out?!

[pwdunmore]

Did someone say part out?!

Lmao... that's mean but very true for most cases when this happens.

[shift8]

Lmao... that's mean but very true for most cases when this happens.

I'm a natural jerk. Gotta use what you got.

Alternatively it's a great reason to go full built!

[Reddie1337]

You tuned? You done a compression or leak down test?

That type of oil consumption is something not to be taken lightly on a stock engine. Forged engines burn a little bit because of the extra clearances but I don't even burn that much from 5000km on a forged engine.

I would suspect a cracked ringland...

Stock internals, I have an Accessport with an OTS map. CAI, autotech hpfp, hollowed second cat, straight pipe resonator, and hollowed muffler. 2/3 mounts.

Nothing super crazy, and compression, perfect numbers. No issues with that. That's what made me think turbo.

I'm a natural jerk. Gotta use what you got.

Alternatively it's a great reason to go full built!

For me, I would just be buying a wrecker engine, throw it in. I daily this car, Oakville to Cambridge daily. I am going for reliability, not full out speed. This is just 100x better than my Sky was for the fun factor. That's why I haven't gone huge power with it.

[shift8]

Stock internals, I have an Accessport with an OTS map. CAI, autotech hpfp, hollowed second cat, straight pipe resonator, and hollowed muffler. 2/3 mounts.

Nothing super crazy, and compression, perfect numbers. No issues with that. That's what made me think turbo.

For me, I would just be buying a wrecker engine, throw it in. I daily this car, Oakville to Cambridge daily. I am going for reliability, not full out speed. This is just 100x better than my Sky was for the fun factor. That's why I haven't gone huge power with it.

We're in a similar boat. I daily'd mine for 3 years until recently. Similar setup but I'm all stock exhaust. I've recently decided to invest in a proper suspension, mild drop, but better handling than my shitty old stock setup

Good luck, hope it's something that can be fixed relatively inexpensively.

[Como]

Might be worth investing a little cash to try a restricter bolt?

Normally that second cat with ‘hide’ a smoking turbo.


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[Sycoa]

Found Penzoil Platinum 4.78L for $26.88 at Walmart. Photobucket doesn't work but here's a link, CT is almost double the price. Is it only the Ultra that's any good, or is this the "next best T6" for a pretty good price?

[Sycoa]

Meant to type 4.73L, my mistake.

[SomeGuy]

Both Platinum and Ultra are fine.

Keep in mind one jug won't do a full change on a MS3.

[Sycoa]

Figure if a 5L jug is around $50 off promo, and you still need more after that anyway, buying two of these works out to not a bad deal. It's not on their website so maybe they're just trying to clear them out.

[pwdunmore]

Anyone know a machine shop in the west end that can mill a flange flat on my exhaust manifold?

I found a leak and will likely need it done to fix the issue unless I just have bad luck with a faulty gasket.

[shift8]

Anyone with experience around the P2101 CEL? Basically means issue with throttle body / ECM unable to change position where it wants.

No issues until car sat in garage for a few weeks. I've cleaned the grounding plate and cleaned the contacts in the throttle body wiring harness. I'm relatively sure at this point it's not that.

Leaves me with a couple things:

* throttle body control unit died
* actuator in TB died
* carbon build up causing plate to be stuck

Next step is to clean the TB with TB cleaner (likely needs done anyways).

Thoughts on most likely issue? No other CEL are present. I have a U2064 as well but think that has to do with the EGR delete and block off. I have that CEL deleted in the tune I'm running.

[MikeTheCheek]

There was someone I was talking to that had the the control unit die on his TB I believe. Didn't mention if he threw a code but he did say he had to replace the whole throttle body. That was around $500 at cost...

Are there any other issues? Is the car drivable?

[shift8]

There was someone I was talking to that had the the control unit die on his TB I believe. Didn't mention if he threw a code but he did say he had to replace the whole throttle body. That was around $500 at cost...

Are there any other issues? Is the car drivable?

Car is undrivable. Currently in limp / safety mode. Will not run above 2500 rpm and prefers to stall.

I was afraid of the throttle body being toast. That's worst case scenario.

The car unfortunately almost requires it being fixed since the price of working MS3s is already quite low

Hoping a thorough throttle body cleaning will resolve it, but I think it's 50/50.

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[SomeGuy]

Car is undrivable. Currently in limp / safety mode. Will not run above 2500 rpm and prefers to stall.

I was afraid of the throttle body being toast. That's worst case scenario.

The car unfortunately almost requires it being fixed since the price of working MS3s is already quite low

Hoping a thorough throttle body cleaning will resolve it, but I think it's 50/50.

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Take the thing apart first before you go replacing parts...something obvious might jump out while servicing it (dirty, frayed wires, something jammed up, etc)

[shift8]

Take the thing apart first before you go replacing parts...something obvious might jump out while servicing it (dirty, frayed wires, something jammed up, etc)

Oh that's the plan. Since it was fine before storing for about 4 weeks, I'm wondering if the throttle plate is just a bit stuck. I'm hoping a clean up will be enough.

I've already checked all the wires etc while I was doing the electronics clean up and everything looked clean (except the grounding plate which I've cleaned up now).

Im going to do a check of the throttle body controller to make sure there isn't an open circuit (per the shop manual). Hoping once I take it off and clean it up that things will be fine.

Keep you posted. There can't be too many things to look through I don't think.

In other news, the screws holding the shroud to my CPE TMIC are very tight and the one cap has started to stretch out, which is going to make taking it out a huge PITA...

[Sycoa]

Anyone able to chime in for advice on these? I don't track the car, mostly just highway and a bit of spirited driving, so I don't need anything super fancy. Not much in the way of reviews for these pads though, but $420 shipped ain't bad.

http://www.tdotperformance.ca/ebc-br...a-12-6-in.html

[SomeGuy]

In other news, the screws holding the shroud to my CPE TMIC are very tight and the one cap has started to stretch out, which is going to make taking it out a huge PITA...

They're a pretty standard thread size, so get some replacement bolts (rather than hex cap screws) to replace them. If you get stuck, grind a slot head into the top of them and use a big ass screwdriver to remove.