All new highbeams as DRL mod

[zap50]

My dash dimmer works fine. And I don't have the dash light problem because I'm using the fogs as the DRLs instead of the highbeams.

I am gonna put some real thinking into switching to the fogs as well , not really the look I was shooting for but I might have to do it as well.
That is unless somebody has a way to have the high beams as a drl and none of these issues??????Anybody???

[Tric]

I don't have the dimmer issue.. you must have something wired wrong or its a problem from something eles.. my dimmer works great.

[McGuyver_3]

I am working on a way to get rid of the issue with the highbeam light staying oin in the cluster i have a premade relay i just have to find the time to put it in to see if it can be a success or not. i will try my best to get this done this weekend to see if i can fix the bugs

[zap50]

Update?

[-RJ3-]

I also have the highbeam indication of course....

I just put a small piece of black tape to cover it LOL!!!! in the daytime its barely noticeable, unless I told you. LOL!!!!

[Neo]

Thanks guys for providing a walk thru for this mod.
I've recently acquired an HID kit from SuperShyGuy. I attempted to do the install myself but the damn connectors are a PITA to get too and splice cables into it. I ran out of time this weekend trying to get this mod hooked up.
I've enlisted the help of Maguyver for this install.

It's too bad there are no predetermined made harnesses available for this type of operation. Or maybe there are but I couldn't find them anywhere...

[azn_outlaw]

there is a pre-made harness to install the kit available from Devin98

but this disables the DRL...

[Neo]

Yeah, I think I came across that. But I can't afford to disable the DRL's. I can't tell you how many times I've had to swerve to avoid somebody who forgets to check their side mirrors. This with DRL's, can you imagine if I didn't have DRL's?! Forget it!
At least with this mod the high beams are used, so this gives people even more warning that I'm approaching!
I can't wait to install this kit! I've been living with this halogen nightmare for 2yrs now. Jumping between a car that has HID and one that doesn't is like stepping back into the stone age! The halogens feel like I'm holding a candle to see what's approaching! Stupid halogens!

[gochickenfactory]

someone mentioned on that forum that they ran a single relay instead of two. one for each side. does this actually work better? also, if he uses 1 relay, does this mean he only play around with one side..let say..passenger or he has to run a wire from the driver to the passenger side relay where all the tapping is done? or did he tap the wires on the driver side as well and ran it to the relay located in the passenger. i read somewhere that someone mentioned that the light harness is connected together someohow.

[McGuyver_3]

to do this mod properly you need 3 relays reason being
1 relay controls your headlights(lowbeams)
1 relay controls your highbeams (aka DRL's)
1 relay controls the light on your dashboard to be off when your highs are running as DRL's
You have to tap in to both sides of the wiring for the drl wiring otherwise only your drivers side will work

which year car do you have?

[zoom_concept]

Okay I see that you use two relay's for the highbeam but

i dont really understand the relay for the dashboard where does that hookup?

[McGuyver_3]

the 2 relays for the drls split in to 2 ways simply because if you use 1 relay for the drls the highbeam light on your dash will stay on all the time during the day until you turn your night lights on. Yes it is very annoying if you say it wont bother you.
In order to have full stock controls you MUST cut the highbeam positive wire on both sides. then you must connect both relays to the positive side of the cut wire on the drivers side (easiest and cleanest look) and run a wire across to the passenger positive side to give it its signal. The passenger positive side is now a dead wire on the car side of the harness and for added safety i would pull the fuse. on the passenger side. they are 2 seperate fuses in the pjb in the passenger footwell area. The 1 relay must use the positive side of the car on the drivers side for flash to pass to continue to work and the light to come on on your dash.
let me know if i lost you

[gochickenfactory]

i thought the mazda 5 and 3 are using the same old light harness. guess not. i'm only using 1 relay on the passenger side, and it controls both driver and passenger perfectly. i just changed myhighbeams to yellow bulbs. looks very cool. thanks mcgyver for the great walkthroughs.

[gochickenfactory]

i drive a mazda 5.

[McGuyver_3]

here is a schematic for your wire up


the breakdown
relay 1 wired
87+86=constant power fuseed 30A
85 = ground from switch inside vehicle black and gren wire
30=hids+

relay# 2 wired
87a=power to highbeams as drls
86=trigger from oem drls
85=ground
30=power constant 30a fused

Relay #3 wired
87=power to highbeams as flash to pass
86=trigger from car side highbeam+ for flash to pass
85=ground
30=constant power 30amp fused

[gochickenfactory]

haha nice, that makes a lot more sense. but the funny part is that did this mod not to run hid's. i know..its a waste : P

[McGuyver_3]

relay 1 wired
87+86=constant power fuseed 30A
85 = ground from switch inside vehicle black and gren wire
30=hids+

relay# 2 wired
87a=power to highbeams as drls
86=trigger from parking lamps (otherwise your highs will not turn off)
85=ground
30=power from drl wire

Relay #3 wired
87=power to highbeams as flash to pass
86=trigger from car side highbeam+ for flash to pass
85=ground
30=constant power 30amp fused

[gochickenfactory]

saw a mazda 5 today at avante that rolled in to do a oil change. he just straight up put hid's into his stock harness without any mods. i was nosey and turned on his lights. and what do you know. it flickers like craaaaaaazy. and the driver side was burnt out already. poor guy. wasted a bulb that fast. i would've went up and told him when he took the car back, but i doubt he wants to learn anyways.

[2ruSpeed]

Hey guys, was there ever a walkthrough with pics for this mod? I'm kinda comfortable with wiring but pictures of the actual setup will help me a lot.

[M3Nick]

relay 1 wired
87+86=constant power fuseed 30A
85 = ground from switch inside vehicle black and gren wire
30=hids+

relay# 2 wired
87a=power to highbeams as drls
86=trigger from parking lamps (otherwise your highs will not turn off)
85=ground
30=power from drl wire

Relay #3 wired
87=power to highbeams as flash to pass
86=trigger from car side highbeam+ for flash to pass
85=ground
30=constant power 30amp fused

If one wanted achieve the same effect as Skarbro has for Halogen fogs, assuming the voltage from the black & green wire is constant when highbeams are flashed, would using a single relay (see below) achieve the same effect?

STEP 1.

Relay #1
---------
30 - Constant 12V from battery (w/ 30A inline fuse)
85 - Constant 12V from battery (w/ 30A inline fuse)
87 - HIDs
86 - Black & Green wire from switch inside cabin

STEP 2.

- Extend the stock DRL (lowbeam) wiring to fog lights with an extension wiring harness.



STEP 3.

-HIDs are controlled by switch
-Halogen fogs are running as DRL
-Highbeams are left untouched

OPTIONAL STEP 4.

-Add a/extend the switch to control fogs in the same circuit as the fog lights to complete or break the circuit (providing you the ability to turn fogs off at any time)

Does anybody know if there would there be any issues with the above method? This way - it would be EXTREMELY easy to go back to stock, and keep up a standard level of water-proofing, you don't really have to tape off lose connections, since nothing is being cut.

[McGuyver_3]

M3Nick- nice try bud but that is not how we wired Skarboros car up. we used the same method as explained so that you can still regain control of your fogs when the lights are on.

relay 1 wired
87+86=constant power fuseed 30A
85 = ground from switch inside vehicle black and gren wire
30=hids+

relay# 2 wired
87a=power to fogs as drls
86=trigger from parking lamps (otherwise your fogs will not turn off)
85=ground
30=power from drl wire

Instead of running relay 2 to the highbeams we ran them to the fogs. During the day the fogs run at reduced power and once you turn on the parking lights the fogs shut off go to your ambers and click 3 your hid's come on and if you want your fogs on you can turn the switch on. The only reason for relay 3 is for the highbeam method so that the light on your dash does not stay on. You also only have to tap the one side of the positive on the fogs to power both as drls

[M3Nick]

Would anything be different if your fogs weren't stock? I picked up a set of aftermarket ones. I assume the wiring / fuses etc. won't be there, aka I have to think of something else?

[McGuyver_3]

The ones on Skarboros car are stock and the set that you have there is wiring there for you to add additional foglights. all you need is the oem switch and the fogs. The mazda 3's come prewired for everything. if you dont have power windows the car is prewired and fuses are there for it.and live.

[mazdathree]

McGuyver, this highbeams as drl mod is reversible to stock? if it is then how long would it take to reverse it? or does it involve cutting wires?

[2ruSpeed]

Where did you guys hide the relays?