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    Default Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Hello guys,

    I'm planning to upgrade my suspensions next summer
    I'm debating between Tein SS Coilover or Koni Yellow+ProKit setup

    Please let me know the pros and cons of both setup and perhaps some personnal experience would be good.

    I do not track the car, it's my DD and I really want to keep stock-like comfort.


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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Well, as I've recently bought coilovers myself it came down to money actually.
    Koni's = 600.
    Prokits = 200
    Install = 100
    So 900.
    None adjustable ride height and stiffness.

    My BC BR Coilovers I bought were used at $800. A freakin steal actually. These are about $1100-$1200 new from one of our in house sponsors.
    These have adjustable ride height and stiffness.
    So for 200 more, you get alot more bang for your buck.

    Con: Due to the amazing amount of salt Toronto/GTA puts down (even though they are getting minimally better), coilovers are susceptible to rust and all the good stuff that comes with a metal + salt relationship.
    Just make sure that you get coilovers that allow dampening, and it should have no effect on your day to day comfortableness, with the possibility of dropping the car.
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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    i had BC Coilover in my old car.
    it's best bang for buck but the quality of the product is soso...

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    So with Koni Yellow I won't be able to adjust damper???

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Yes you can with yellows, what issues did you have with the BCs?

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    the material was cheap, the top mount's bolts stripped without forcing it.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    in my case the concern is not really price wise.
    I'm more concern about keep stock level of comfort but still able to lowered a lil (within an inch).
    And have better cornering.

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    Edited as not relevant noe
    Didn't see your post first.

    Is there not other ways to get better cornering? Sway bay ect?
    Last edited by peterm15; 10-29-2011 at 11:40 PM.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Yes bars can help for cornering, but I also want to have it lowered a lil too

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    in my case the concern is not really price wise.
    I'm more concern about keep stock level of comfort but still able to lowered a lil (within an inch).
    And have better cornering.
    How about the KW's? They're much better built than BCs, but the only problem is they might be lower than what you're looking for.
    On the other hand, prokits + koni's is a pretty unbeatable combination. Adjustable stiffness, perfect height IMO (1-1.2") and you won't have to worry about it during winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    the material was cheap, the top mount's bolts stripped without forcing it.
    That is odd.

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    Is Koni yellow height adjustable?

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    Is Koni yellow height adjustable?
    no. you can adjust stiffness only.

    I'd say go with koni's and pro-kits.
    Last edited by loki; 10-30-2011 at 08:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    oh thanks!

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    I had planned on running Koni Yellows with Cobb springs. Good luck finding Koni Yellows (ms3 part #'s) in Canada. You WILL have to source them from the states. They are impossible to get here.

    Now, if you do find them here in Canada... let me know where and how much. And how long it actually took to get them!

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    it's all good, i work in a shop and we're reseller of Koni

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    it's all good, i work in a shop and we're reseller of Koni
    so this means you have access to Koni yellows for the mazdaspeed3?

    Because alot of people are looking for these right now.

    Edit: even if it means taking a road trip to Montreal to collect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokiaparandi View Post
    so this means you have access to Koni yellows for the mazdaspeed3?

    Because alot of people are looking for these right now.

    Edit: even if it means taking a road trip to Montreal to collect them.
    +1 to that. I might be looking into these as well in the future.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    i can order from my supplier.
    3 weeks delay and it'll be here.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    i can order from my supplier.
    3 weeks delay and it'll be here.
    can you post or PM me the price for front and rear koni yellows for the 2008 speed3.

    I'm telling you they'll be alot of interest for these.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    I won't be able to get u cheaper then MSRP

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    I won't be able to get u cheaper then MSRP
    which is?

    http://www.koni-na.com/cat_search.cf...=44&submit.y=6

    that link shows US $705 for both front and rear
    Last edited by loki; 10-31-2011 at 04:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    this thread is awesome. was looking into this very question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokiaparandi View Post
    which is?

    http://www.koni-na.com/cat_search.cf...=44&submit.y=6

    that link shows US $705 for both front and rear
    that's the Koni online sale price not the MSRP
    I PMed u the price

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    Quote Originally Posted by MZ3-Kiyomi_17 View Post
    this thread is awesome. was looking into this very question.
    +1. I'm at 177,000km waiting for my stock suspension to go so I can do a koni yellow + tien s-tech combo for slammage!

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