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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Just get koni yellows and road magnet springs, I have them and I love them. I swapped the prokits for RM cuz prokit is too soft

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    i'm still thinking
    I dun want anything stiffer then stock MS3's...
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    Just got Swift springs installed. They're really awesome. Mild lowering, similar to stock comfort, very great performance.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    Just got Swift springs installed. They're really awesome. Mild lowering, similar to stock comfort, very great performance.
    still on stock shocks? i wanna drop mine but cant spend a G right now on doin it...

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    It's somewhat of a gamble and seems to depend on how low you go. The lower, the faster the shocks will go, mild drop and they hold out for a while. Gen II's might be better overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wilson View Post
    It's somewhat of a gamble and seems to depend on how low you go. The lower, the faster the shocks will go, mild drop and they hold out for a while. Gen II's might be better overall.
    hmm yea i think ill wait it out, that way i can either sell the stock set-up or keep them as a spare..how are the swift springs gar_lei? what drop would you say you got with them?

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    I'm on stock shocks, but its in my plan to upgrade the shock next summer to Bilstein.

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    I'll take a pic a bit later to shoe u guys.
    Its a lil lower then I thought but totally acceptable. Its a mild drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    I'll take a pic a bit later to shoe u guys.
    Its a lil lower then I thought but totally acceptable. Its a mild drop.
    good stuff, thanks man... enjoy

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    For what it's worth, I just installed Koni Yellows and MS3 Prokits at Jimmy's last week. I was expecting an improvement in handling dynamics, but I was absolutely shocked as to the actual difference. The car is completely planted now and without any of the rear strut rebound (jitter/bounce) you get at high speed if you hit a bumpy bit of asphalt/track.

    The drop is a little lower than advertised for the MS3 Prokits, but overall, this is a great suspension package for the MS3 and the stifness is adjustable. I'm at about 60% which I believe is 1 or 1.5 turns on the Koni's. This is perfect for a street set-up, but is stiffer in ride than stock.

    As for coilover's, I have never understood why people go for that option if they are looking for a performance upgrade. They're great for shows and stance, but IMO a good set of struts and springs will outperform coil-overs.

    Edit: Note that the front Koni's are asily adjustable after the fact, but the rears are not. So best to set-up from start what you want in stiffness terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom Zoom Boy View Post
    For what it's worth, I just installed Koni Yellows and MS3 Prokits at Jimmy's last week. I was expecting an improvement in handling dynamics, but I was absolutely shocked as to the actual difference. The car is completely planted now and without any of the rear strut rebound (jitter/bounce) you get at high speed if you hit a bumpy bit of asphalt/track.

    The drop is a little lower than advertised for the MS3 Prokits, but overall, this is a great suspension package for the MS3 and the stifness is adjustable. I'm at about 60% which I believe is 1 or 1.5 turns on the Koni's. This is perfect for a street set-up, but is stiffer in ride than stock.
    Do you know what % the koni yellows are set to out of the box? I'm about to get mine installed tomorrow. Also did you turning it to the right or left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turok View Post
    Do you know what % the koni yellows are set to out of the box? I'm about to get mine installed tomorrow. Also did you turning it to the right or left?
    Did it come come with instructions?

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    They are set to the softest setting, the dial that comes with the front you turn according to the arrow….the rear you need to use a vise I have the same set up as Zoom Zoom Boy can't be any happier with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Did it come come with instructions?

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    I didn't see any in the one box I opened. I'll check the other tomorrow morning before I get them installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.joh View Post
    They are set to the softest setting, the dial that comes with the front you turn according to the arrow….the rear you need to use a vise I have the same set up as Zoom Zoom Boy can't be any happier with them.
    Awesome, I'll set mine up tonight then. I definitely don't want them on the softest setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turok View Post
    Do you know what % the koni yellows are set to out of the box? I'm about to get mine installed tomorrow. Also did you turning it to the right or left?
    Chris.Joh got it right. I'm pretty sure they are set to the softest settings out of the box. I can't answer your question on the turning as Jimmy installed mine. Put there is a little white plastic turning tool with arrows on it (that I can't find at the moment...) that you use. Should have come with your Koni's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom Zoom Boy View Post
    Chris.Joh got it right. I'm pretty sure they are set to the softest settings out of the box. I can't answer your question on the turning as Jimmy installed mine. Put there is a little white plastic turning tool with arrows on it (that I can't find at the moment...) that you use. Should have come with your Koni's.
    Yup I got the tool in the box, I'm about to go adjust mine now.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    Looking to upgrade the Shocks and Struts sometime soon.

    Thinking abt Koni Yellow or Bilstein.

    Anyone mate any of them with Swift Springs?

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    I will be running bilstein B8 with swift springs once the Gb that has my springs is complete
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    Nice, please do let me know how to like it.

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    Default Re: Coilover VS Shocks+Springs upgrade?

    I'm running koni sports and swift springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki View Post
    I'm running koni sports and swift springs
    Koni Yellow? How is it as a DD and ocational track visit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gar_lei View Post
    Koni Yellow? How is it as a DD and ocational track visit?
    if you hit the track alot youll want the ability to run more camber than a strut/spring combo will allow, and you cannot get a corner balance with a strut/spring combo.

    plus they dont come with camber plates, fail X3 for track guys

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    Well I'm looking to go a few times a year (4-5).

    And I have swift springs right now.

    Just thinking if I should upgrade shocks or sell the springs and get Coilover.

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