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    okay so i wanted to order these internals a while back but i hit a snag and couldnt do it!..but now i gotz the moneyz for it and i am ready to order but i thought i would just run this by you guys...what would you prefer? the autotech internals? or the kmd internals? now i i have heard alot of people go with the auto tech internals but is that just because of prefrence or are they actually better? bottom line i need fuel pump internals and its gonna happen i would just rather grab them from the vendor who has a more reputable name.. what do you guys think?

    EDIT: there is also the ptp internals but everytime i mentioned those to someone they would say be very weary of them so those are out of the question.
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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    Personally I went with autotech, I didn't feel comfortable putting KMD v1-3 in my car. After 3000km+ holds pressure perfectly no complaints *fingers crossed* just my 2c

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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    i cant speak for any of the ones you want but i had my CPe pump for 4 years now with out any problems

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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    I went with Autotech based on several recommendations on msf

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    I'm going cpe pump, there's a reason it costs more

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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    Mcguyver, myself, and polish eagle all have CP-E pumps as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestSpeed3 View Post
    Mcguyver, myself, and polish eagle all have CP-E pumps as well.
    I also have the cp-e pump. I considered internals, but I looked beyond price, and went pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.F.W. View Post
    I also have the cp-e pump. I considered internals, but I looked beyond price, and went pump.
    price isnt primarily the issue i just dont see the justification of spending 1000 when i can spend 350 and do it myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrakt View Post
    price isnt primarily the issue i just dont see the justification of spending 1000 when i can spend 350 and do it myself
    it's $1000 if you don't send your core back, it's ~$700. The difference is warranty for one. Cp-e if you ever have an issue you have warranty support..if you go internals and something fails, then what ?

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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    CPe pump is $730 let me know if you need 1

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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    Quote Originally Posted by S.F.W. View Post
    it's $1000 if you don't send your core back, it's ~$700. The difference is warranty for one. Cp-e if you ever have an issue you have warranty support..if you go internals and something fails, then what ?
    but doesn't an aftermarket pump void a Mazda warranty? Internals are more difficult for the dealer to 'catch' in case there is a warranty issue? Or if one decides to upgrade their pump, they are okay with the fact that their warranty is voided?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemlor View Post
    but doesn't an aftermarket pump void a Mazda warranty? Internals are more difficult for the dealer to 'catch' in case there is a warranty issue? Or if one decides to upgrade their pump, they are okay with the fact that their warranty is voided?
    If you're going to mod the car with a pump, chances are you're gonna do DP or some other mod that would void the warranty anyway. Basically, if you're worried about the factory warranty, you shouldn't be modding in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fywdyl View Post
    If you're going to mod the car with a pump, chances are you're gonna do DP or some other mod that would void the warranty anyway. Basically, if you're worried about the factory warranty, you shouldn't be modding in the first place.
    +1 and I believe the cpe pump looks exactly like the oem pump, so if they are not going pop the pump open it really doesnt matter... I use kmd v3 for around 3 months installed by jimmy, it's all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fywdyl View Post
    If you're going to mod the car with a pump, chances are you're gonna do DP or some other mod that would void the warranty anyway. Basically, if you're worried about the factory warranty, you shouldn't be modding in the first place.
    If that was the case, then yes, I agree. However, if someone wanted only to install an SRI and fuel pump, and leave the DP until after the warranty period, internals may be safer option for keeping the warranty. But I am only speculating as I have not installed an HPFP, or SRI, and haven't had an engine-related warranty issue.

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    I went with autotech so abt 3000KM, so far no prob.
    But if i have extra cash, I would had gone for CPE pump
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    Default Re: autotech or kmd?

    Quote Originally Posted by hemlor View Post
    but doesn't an aftermarket pump void a Mazda warranty? Internals are more difficult for the dealer to 'catch' in case there is a warranty issue? Or if one decides to upgrade their pump, they are okay with the fact that their warranty is voided?
    I answered this for you in the other thread where you asked this question

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    http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...l=1#post903420

    Asking the same question multiple times in multiple threads doesn't change the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokiaparandi View Post
    http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...l=1#post903420

    Asking the same question multiple times in multiple threads doesn't change the answer
    In this thread I was responding to a comment, but I phrased it in a form of a question. You did reply to a question I had, but what I asked was the advantages to internals versus complete pump, and hypothesized why internals may be beneficial. Your comment that I should just leave my car stock is taken, but I would rather ask multiple times to get multiple opinions so that if I do decide to modify my car, I have as much information as possible. I appreciate your responses, and your knowledge but if it annoys you, please feel free to ignore.

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    I have talked to each and everyone of you in some form or another so let me interject with a slice of what is the reality of things for most guys:

    1. abtrakt/Adam is an apprentice mechanic. Not only should he be able to do the internals himself, he'd likely enjoy the challenge, and willing to deal with any consequences.

    2. hemlor is more concerned about his warranty and whether an upgraded pump will affect it. it's a moot point since leaving the car stock, you will be covered by warranty and if you mod, then warranty be damned.

    3. everyone else, either have chosen to get internals installed by a trusted mechanic, likely at about $350 for parts and $120 for install...or about $470 - 500. Or they got in on a CP-e FP for a no-hassle solution that comes with a warranty. since they plan to make more power, they understand the fuel pump is just one of the many steps, albeit one of the most important, to get to their goal.

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    I think Abstrakt is more than capable of installing the internals himself, even its with a bit of "supervision"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemlor View Post
    In this thread I was responding to a comment, but I phrased it in a form of a question. You did reply to a question I had, but what I asked was the advantages to internals versus complete pump, and hypothesized why internals may be beneficial. Your comment that I should just leave my car stock is taken, but I would rather ask multiple times to get multiple opinions so that if I do decide to modify my car, I have as much information as possible. I appreciate your responses, and your knowledge but if it annoys you, please feel free to ignore.
    you asked if the dealer will be able to "catch" you with a fuel pump and void your warranty.

    I told you that the pump from cp-e is the same as your stock pump. You then asked that same question again. I'm not annoyed and neither should you be.

    All bullshit aside, the benefit of going with the cp-e fuel pump is the lifetime warranty and the fact that they test the product and break it in for you. At the end of the day, they're taking in other MS3 stock pumps and changing out the internals. Pretty much the same as you changing out the internals yourself, but they are guaranteeing you that they did it correctly.

    If you are mechanically capable, then you should have no problems with swapping in a good set of internals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokiaparandi View Post
    you asked if the dealer will be able to "catch" you with a fuel pump and void your warranty.

    I told you that the pump from cp-e is the same as your stock pump. You then asked that same question again. I'm not annoyed and neither should you be.

    All bullshit aside, the benefit of going with the cp-e fuel pump is the lifetime warranty and the fact that they test the product and break it in for you. At the end of the day, they're taking in other MS3 stock pumps and changing out the internals. Pretty much the same as you changing out the internals yourself, but they are guaranteeing you that they did it correctly.

    If you are mechanically capable, then you should have no problems with swapping in a good set of internals.
    Ok, good stuff, not annoyed at all. I was only asking what benefits internals had over complete pump, and it seems it comes down to price vs. lifetime pump warranty. Makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokiaparandi View Post
    I think Abstrakt is more than capable of installing the internals himself, even its with a bit of "supervision"
    you guys are too kind haaha but i could def use the moral support when it comes time to install

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    Love my autotech internals. I installed them myself and they work great! Never had any issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrakt View Post
    you guys are too kind haaha but i could def use the moral support when it comes time to install
    Dont be scared. Your an auto mechanic.after all bro!

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