Winter tires and packages

[Tires23]

Hey guys, we now have some winter tires came into our warehouse.

195/65/15
Viking Snowtech $375
King Star W411 $370
Hankook W404 $390
Dunlop Winter Sport M3 $560
Michelin PA2 $635


205/55/16
Viking SnowTech $400 - new snow tire by Continental
Hankook W300 $510
Hankook W404 $475
Dunlop Winter Sport M3 $750
Michelin PA2 $825
Michelin X-ICE $775
Kumho KW17 $625 (Limited quantity)

205/50/17
Viking Snowtech $550
Toyo Observe G0-2 $830
Continental TS790 (V) $955
Dunlop Winter Sport M3 $1050
Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero $1095
Michelin PA2 $1265
Hankook W300 $600

Please contact us thru Email or Phone for brands or models not listed above.


Brand NEW hubcentric steel rims for $240/set

$50 mail in rebate for all michelin snow tires until OCT 28

All prices include tax and installation.


Please give us a call if you need further info.

[mEtH]

can you post 15\" and 17\" applications.

Gotta get a set of 15s for an 1.6EL

[McGuyver_3]

Originally posted by Tires23


Hey guys, we now have some winter tires came in to our warehouse.

205/55/16
Viking SnowTech $400 - new snow tire by Continental
Hankook W300 $510
Hankook W404 $475
Dunlop Winter Sport M3 $750
...a lot more to come

+ $200 for steel rim package price OR contact us for 16\" nice alloy wheels.

prices include tax and installation.

Also we would like to introduce to you this NEW Continental all season tire for your OEM fitment -
one of the best dry and wet performance all season tire from Germany.
205/50/17 ON SPECIAL for $930 (tax and installed)

ContiPro Contact
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automobile/themes/pc_tyres/performance_touring/conti_pro_contact/img/cpc_3q_uv;property=original.jpg

Please give us a call if you need further info.


I would be interested in the continentals but i dont have the appropriate$ ill send u a message when i do though

[mEtH]

When do you plan to post your winter tire pricing?

[Tires23]

up on top:sarc

[Hazy]

Do you guys have Kumho KW17? and if so, how much?

[iconicrocket]

Bump on the Kumho KW17 too. Need them with the 16\" steelies.

[Tires23]

We don\'t have any Kumho snow tires yet.
We suggest Hankook W300 and W404 that offers similar tread pattern as the KW17 (asymmetric) and KW19 (deep tread block).

[Hazy]

any 17\' tires because i plan on putting them on my stock wheels.

[SABIO]

Funny you should ask... i am picking up my 17\" Viking Sno-Techs today from Billy (Tires23). i will post a pic when i gets thems

[SABIO]

This is the Viking Sno-Tech. Great price.
Looks like a great Tire... We will see though, No snow yet....
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/sabio7/IMG_0744.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/sabio7/IMG_0746.jpg

[ds2chan]

Sabio: u\'r using ur stock alloy rims during winter?? doesn\'t the salt hurt the rims?? that\'s what I\'ve been told..

[uturi2001]

are the prices per tire or for a set of 4.

and where is this place

sam

[SABIO]

Yes for a set of 4

http://www.tires23.com/



http://www.tires23.com/pages/contact.html

Better to use the stock tires than my 18\'s !!!

[mwaters]

Sabio, The Vikings received a good review here:

\"Consumer Reports Rates Goodyear Assurance TripleTred Best in Tests of 18 All-Season Tires; Michelin X-Ice Scores Highest in Winter Tire Tests

Consumer Reports has seen substantive improvement in the performance of all-season tires since it last rated them in 2001. For example, the Kelly Navigator Platinum TE was the magazine\'s second-overall choice in 2001. In this year\'s testing against other models with newer designs, the Navigator Platinum TE dropped to ninth place overall. (The magazine rated the Michelin X-One best overall in 2001; that model was subsequently discontinued.)

All-season tires are standard on most new cars and light trucks, and they accounted for 83 percent of the replacement market in 2004.

Consumer Reports\' overall tire scores emphasize safety-related tests, including braking, handling, and resistance to hydroplaning -- where standing water causes tires to lift off the road surface, leading to a loss of grip and steering control.

In a separate series of tests, Consumer Reports rated the Michelin X-Ice best among 12 models of winter tires on the market. The Viking Snow Tech placed second, and the Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice came in third. The Michelin and Goodyear have excellent snow grip. The Viking is best suited for all-weather use and more moderate winter conditions.

Full tests and ratings of the all-season and winter tires appear in the November issue of Consumer Reports, which goes on sale Oct. 4. The complete report is also available to subscribers at

http://www.ConsumerReports.org.

For the first time in decades, Consumer Reports also evaluated all 18 models of all-season tires for tread wear. The results show that the Uniform Tire Quality tread-wear grades found on a tire\'s sidewall and the manufacturer\'s tire warranty don\'t always paint an accurate picture of what consumers can expect. CR\'s tests showed that tread wear ratings on some tires overstate their tread wear potential while other ratings underestimate that potential.

Consumers should be wary that tread wear information is supplied by manufacturers and may be different than real-world tread wear. Consumer Reports\' tread wear tests were not factored into overall tire scores; although tread wear is important, CR believes that it shouldn\'t outweigh braking, handling and other critical safety factors and should be used as a tie-breaker when comparing tires with similar overall performance.

All-season and winter tires come in sizes to fit everything from small cars to full-sized sport-utility vehicles and pickups. Consumer Reports selected a common size, P205/65R15 for its tests of both all-season and winter tires. CR believes that its ratings can be used as a yardstick for 14-inch through 17-inch sizes of the same model tires.

Consumer Reports selected the 18 models of all-season tires from upper-midlevel and premium lines with S (112 mph) or T (118 mph) speed ratings. Tread-wear warranties for those tires run from 65,000 to 100,000 miles. Prices ranged from $48 to $114 for the common P205/65R15 size.

Here are some of Consumer Reports\' Quick Picks for all-season tires. Prices shown are retail paid by CR for the P205/65R15 tires tested:

Best for all weather conditions:

Michelin X Radial, $111; Michelin HydroEdge, $100

The Michelin X Radial is a very good all-around performer, but is only available from shopping clubs. The Michelin HydroEdge performs capably but is noisier, with mediocre hydroplaning resistance.

If icy roads aren\'t a factor:

Goodyear Assurance TripleTred, $80; Hankook Mileage Plus II H725, $50; Yokohama Avid TRZ, $70

These tires do well in everything except braking on ice. The Goodyear\'s ride is very quiet.

If long tread life is important:

Yokohama Avid TRZ, $70; Michelin HydroEdge, $100; Dayton Grenadier PLE, $48; Bridgestone Turanza LS-T, $78

WINTER TIRES

Best for severe winter performance:

Michelin X-Ice, $84; Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice, $75; Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50, $86; Mastercraft Glacier Grip II, $54

The Michelin X-Ice is the top choice for harsh winters. The Goodyear and Mastercraft also provide excellent snow traction, though not as good braking on ice. The Bridgestone is also very capable on both snow and ice.

For moderate winter conditions:

Viking Snow Tech, $43

The Viking, distributed in the U.S. by Continental, is worth considering where winters are moderate or roads are cleared promptly. It handles and brakes very well on dry and wet pavement, and it rides comfortably and quietly.

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[Hazy]

Nice pics..it seems like a great tire but please inform us on how it performs in the winter later.

[m_a_t_r_i_x]

Tires23,

I drove all the way up there only to found out that your store is closed. Ive send you a message/ you replied on it that Im coming over today (Sat) to order/pick up my set of winter tires.

I would appreciate if you could have told me that you are closed today and I could have done some other errands.

PLs post what day/time your store is open or do I/we need to set an appointment? so we can avoid incoveniences ...

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by m_a_t_r_i_x


Tires23,

I drove all the way up there only to found out that your store is closed. Ive send you a message/ you replied on it that Im coming over today (Sat) to order/pick up my set of winter tires.

I would appreciate if you could have told me that you are closed today and I could have done some other errands.

PLs post what day/time your store is open or do I/we need to set an appointment? so we can avoid incoveniences ...



they\'re suppose to be open 10am - 5pm..


Monday to Friday
10:00 am to 7:00 pm

Saturday
10:00 am to 5:00 pm

[Tires23]

MATRIX

We are terribly sorry. We had a track day on Saturday and our guy who was suppose to look after the store didn\'t show up that day due to an accident.

I\'ll have your set of tires reserved and you can come in for installation anytime.

Thanks

[Tires23]

We are able to grab some Kumho KW17 in 205/55/16
$625 tax in and installed.

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by Tires23


We are able to grab some Kumho KW17 in 205/55/16
$625 tax in and installed.

does that include steel rims?? thanks.

[Tires23]

Originally posted by ds2chan



Originally posted by Tires23


We are able to grab some Kumho KW17 in 205/55/16
$625 tax in and installed.

does that include steel rims?? thanks.

$625 tires alone. Tax in mounted and balanced
Thanks

[CHRoNiC_WiLL]

Hi do you have the Kumho KW19 in 225/45/17 and how much would those cost?

[Tires23]

nope...but we can get Hankook W404 in 225/45/17 (similar tread as KW19) $570/set
and the popular Viking Snowtech for $620/set

Guys~ Michelin\'s rebate program is ending soon (oct 28th).

[ieatkittens]

What\'s a set of four 16\" steelies going to go for? :)

[Tires23]

16\" steelie brand new black 5x114.3 $240 tax in
Thanks

[CHRoNiC_WiLL]

Hmm just read up on the Hankook w404\'s.
I\'ll probably be getting those from you guyz. That price 570 includes install and balance right? I\'m gonna be putting them on stock wheels.

Will you still have it available when the first snow fall drops? (i\'m assuming mid november)

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by CHRoNiC_WiLL
Will you still have it available when the first snow fall drops? (i\'m assuming mid november)

Before Majoogle kicks in I\'m going to give save you and give you a straight forward answer to your question.

Snow tires are all about supply and demand. Its no different than bottled water. There is plenty when there are no natural disasters but once a hurricane warning hits, people buy out all the water.

Snow tires are the same thing. Some people tend to buy them \"when the first snow fall hits\". Now when most people think like this, do you think there will be snow tires for everyone at the time? Answer is no.

My advice is, if you can afford it, buy them now. :)

[TheProfessor]

Pricing will also likely rise once snow has hit the ground (also supply and demand).

[majic]

Originally posted by RedRaptor



Originally posted by CHRoNiC_WiLL
Will you still have it available when the first snow fall drops? (i\'m assuming mid november)

Before Majoogle kicks in I\'m going to give save you and give you a straight forward answer to your question.

Snow tires are all about supply and demand. Its no different than bottled water. There is plenty when there are no natural disasters but once a hurricane warning hits, people buy out all the water.

Snow tires are the same thing. Some people tend to buy them \"when the first snow fall hits\". Now when most people think like this, do you think there will be snow tires for everyone at the time? Answer is no.

My advice is, if you can afford it, buy them now. :)

you spoiled all the fun.. :(

so in case he missed it here\'s my bloom\'s notes version: no :D

[chaser]

WOnder why would you choose 225, assuming you\'ve a Mazda3. Narrow snow tires handle better in snow because they cut thru the snow easier. In general, keep the stock tire width or don\'t go less than the minimum width that manufacture put on the model.

Get them now if you can. IIRC, the popular KW17s were sold out late Oct / early Nov last year.

[dredd2099]

tires23

prices apply for every1?
if so, imma post it up for sum of my trix buddies as well
ty

[CHRoNiC_WiLL]

Actually... i\'m driving a 6.. ;p not a 3.. i was directed over here by a Mazda 3 member

[Tires23]

The pricing apply to Matrix club and Mazda6 club also.;)

[Whos ur dadd]

But I think size wise (16\" Mazda3 and 16\" Mazda6), the Mazda6 tires will generally be cheaper due to our bigger sidewall. I hear that lower profile tires cost more. Ah, the benefits of buying a Camry class of car. Yay for the old farts!

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd


But I think size wise (16\" Mazda3 and 16\" Mazda6), the Mazda6 tires will generally be cheaper due to our bigger sidewall. I hear that lower profile tires cost more. Ah, the benefits of buying a Camry class of car. Yay for the old farts!

In fairness to you, most 6 drivers are anything but \"old farts\"! The old farts are the ones who think it\'s styling is too risque, the suspension not floaty enough, and \"fun\" not being part of their drive.

[majic]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd


But I think size wise (16\" Mazda3 and 16\" Mazda6), the Mazda6 tires will generally be cheaper due to our bigger sidewall. I hear that lower profile tires cost more. Ah, the benefits of buying a Camry class of car. Yay for the old farts!

usually the higher series tires are more expensive (higher sidewall = more rubber = more expensive) unless you\'re riding on like 30series then that sidewall better be effin stiff and probably costs more

[m_a_t_r_i_x]

question for those who have dedicated winter tires(205 55 16), what is the recommended tire pressure? and are the stock wheel nuts are ok to use for the steel rims (i believe they are ok)....thanks

[billyfo]

for me just using the sticker number at the door jam, it should have 3 sizes\' ideal psi.

stock lugs have no problem for steelies.

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by majic

usually the higher series tires are more expensive (higher sidewall = more rubber = more expensive) unless you\'re riding on like 30series then that sidewall better be effin stiff and probably costs more



Oh my gosh, I do believe the Majoogle is WRONG!!!

I don\'t think it has to do with the cost of the rubber. It has to do with market discrimination. Sportier, low profile tires will cost more because the general premise is that the drivers of those cars will pay more. If you look at a 205/55/16 vs a 205/60/16 for the same tire, the 55 series will cost more.

When I was inquiring about Nokians for the Mazda3 in 16\", it was $70 more expensive than for my 16\" Mazda6 as the Mazda6 used a 60 series tire.

Don\'t trust me, try punching in some numbers in Tiretrends.com.

The Majoogle may be wrong on this one! Who wudda thunk?

[majic]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd



Originally posted by majic

usually the higher series tires are more expensive (higher sidewall = more rubber = more expensive) unless you\'re riding on like 30series then that sidewall better be effin stiff and probably costs more



Oh my gosh, I do believe the Majoogle is WRONG!!!

I don\'t think it has to do with the cost of the rubber. It has to do with market discrimination. Sportier, low profile tires will cost more because the general premise is that the drivers of those cars will pay more. If you look at a 205/55/16 vs a 205/60/16 for the same tire, the 55 series will cost more.

When I was inquiring about Nokians for the Mazda3 in 16\", it was $70 more expensive than for my 16\" Mazda6 as the Mazda6 used a 60 series tire.

Don\'t trust me, try punching in some numbers in Tiretrends.com.

The Majoogle may be wrong on this one! Who wudda thunk?

i bow down to the master of the universe.. :p buuuutt.. before you begin the blasphemy re-read what i wrote.. :D my hypothesis: tires\' price depends on
1) amount of rubber used AND/OR
2) the profile

they kinda go hand in hand but as you said lower profile = tuner tire.. also it translates into a different compound (has to be much stiffer)

anyway.. when i checked tirerack, there were no real trends with respect to the sidewall height and price.. except for the UBER wide and low tires were always the most expensive.. in addition, the tires of very common height (series) tend to be cheaper - volume manufacturing/sales, and ones of irregular sizes will be more expensive (still the difference is pretty negligible compared to the tire\'s price)

a little sidetracking here..
it\'s funny that the tuner tire is a low profile tire as it is all for looks. higher profile tires 1) allow for smaller wheels - better acc/dec-eleration 2) allow for more uniform weight distribution 3) have a softer sidewall thus allowing for the tire to mold more during cornering providing a larger surface area, thus more grip.. oh but they look like donuts.. :p

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by majic

master of the universe..

And don\'t you forget it.

[Jetlag]

Just wondering. For anyone who has already purchased and are driving with the viking sno-techs, any first impressions. I.E. dry/ wet handling, road noise, comfort etc. thanks.

[Jetlag]

Just wondering. For anyone who has already purchased and are driving with the viking sno-techs, any first impressions. I.E. dry/ wet handling, road noise, comfort etc. thanks.

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by mathuis


Just wondering. For anyone who has already purchased and are driving with the viking sno-techs, any first impressions. I.E. dry/ wet handling, road noise, comfort etc. thanks.

I\'m picking mine up on Saturday at Wheels Direct at Sheppard and McCowan. I\'ll let you know what I think of them. Where are you planning on getting yours??

[SABIO]

Originally posted by ds2chan



Originally posted by mathuis


Just wondering. For anyone who has already purchased and are driving with the viking sno-techs, any first impressions. I.E. dry/ wet handling, road noise, comfort etc. thanks.

I\'m picking mine up on Saturday at Wheels Direct at Sheppard and McCowan. I\'ll let you know what I think of them. Where are you planning on getting yours??


Wheels Direct??? You got to be kidding............

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by SABIO

Wheels Direct??? You got to be kidding............

huh?? I\'m not following..

[majic]

Originally posted by ds2chan



Originally posted by SABIO

Wheels Direct??? You got to be kidding............

huh?? I\'m not following..

i think he said.. \"you got to be kidding\" .. maybe he has something against WD..

[SABIO]

Tires23 beat the price from the self-centered, no service Wheels Direct by a couple $100 dollars, when I picked up my 18\" package.

I bought my Vikings from Tires23. Again it\'s about supporting sponsors........

[TheProfessor]

Did Wheels Direct give you a better price? I\'ve had nothing but bad experiences with WD in terms of service.

[ds2chan]

yeah, they matched Tires23 original price with rims. now I think tires23 raised their prices of rims.. plus Tires23 is out in mississauga.. so it\'s quite the drive for me from yonge and 401..

I\'d go with e-spec but they never return my calls and it took them about 2-3 weeks to return one e-mail..

I called SpeedTech Auto and they quoted me $20 more..
http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=4025

I\'m guessing there are mixed feelings.. sometimes they do a good job and sometimes they don\'t.. well, I guess I still have another day or two to change my mind.. I\'m not going in until saturday morning..

[chaser]

Wheels Direct couldn\'t beat Tires23\'s price when I was shopping for rims & tires package in May.

E-spec based in Mississauga as well but they may deliver.

[mwaters]

Tires23:

Are you able to get the Conti TS810 S? If so, can you post a quote for 205/55/16 H and V rated. Thanks.

[Tires23]

Originally posted by mwaters


Tires23:

Are you able to get the Conti TS810 S? If so, can you post a quote for 205/55/16 H and V rated. Thanks.

TS810S 205/55/16 H $675
205/55/16 V $760

Tax in mounted and balanced
Thanks

[Tires23]

205/55/16 Viking snowtech back in stock!!!

[david3]

I picked up my Dunlop M3 195/65/15 on black steelies from Tires23 today. The tires were in quickly (Ordered monday, billie called wednesday saying they were in and ready to go) and all my questions were answered. Highly recommend them.

Thanks guys.

[Tires23]

We now have 300 pieces Brand new black 16\" 5x114.3 67.1 Bore steel rim in stock.
Hub Centrics for Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by Tires23


We now have 300 pieces Brand new black 16\" 5x114.3 67.1 Bore steel rim in stock.
Hub Centrics for Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.


I wish I knew what these are.. can anybody tell me?? thanks..

[SABIO]

In forum lingo... 300 16\" Steelies.... Ready for you to slap on some winter rubber;)

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by SABIO


In forum lingo... 300 16\" Steelies.... Ready for you to slap on some winter rubber;)

lol.. thanks.. maybe I\'m not cool enough for you guys here.. I don\'t understand ur lingo.. :p

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by mathuis


Just wondering. For anyone who has already purchased and are driving with the viking sno-techs, any first impressions. I.E. dry/ wet handling, road noise, comfort etc. thanks.

I just did changed my tires over today at Wheels Direct.. they\'re really nice and did it quickly.. they gave me toyota rims..

I drive my car on the highway and there was some initial road noise but I didn\'t notice it after a while.. maybe I just got use to it or I was listening to my music.. but so far so good..

[TheProfessor]

Can you post a pic of your car with the Toyota rims? I can\'t decide if I want to get silver or black steelies :)

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by PSIVIC


Can you post a pic of your car with the Toyota rims? I can\'t decide if I want to get silver or black steelies :)

here you go.. I just took a closer look today and the passenger side rims are toyota and the driver\'s side rims are generic..

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/ds2chan/IMG_2764.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/ds2chan/IMG_2765.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/ds2chan/IMG_2766.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b342/ds2chan/IMG_2767.jpg

[TheProfessor]

Thanks alot! Now I just have to see some pics with silver steelies.

[Zaku_4]

hmm,

is it already time to put on winters?!

[TheProfessor]

I\'m gonna wait till at least the first week of December before I put them on.....it\'s too soon IMO. Even if we did get snow before then, it wouldn\'t last more than a few hours on the roads.

[Tires23]

please contact us by email or phone since we are limtied to reply 1-2 pm daily.

Thanks

[Whos ur dadd]

Just ordered Dunlop M3\'s for the 6 and Michelin X-ones for the SUV.

BRING ON DA SNOW!!!

[SABIO]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
Just ordered Dunlop M3\'s for the 6 and Michelin X-ones for the SUV.


Mr. $$$ Money $$$ Bags $$$

[mazmaz]

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd


Just ordered Dunlop M3\'s for the 6 and Michelin X-ones for the SUV.

BRING ON DA SNOW!!!


hopefully it doesn\'t arrive till x-mas. i\'m in no rush

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by SABIO

Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
Just ordered Dunlop M3\'s for the 6 and Michelin X-ones for the SUV.
Mr. $$$ Money $$$ Bags $$$

I wish I could play the apprentice theme song to WUD\'s msg.. :p

and I mean trump\'s theme song (not martha\'s)..

[Rick]

Hey,

Need your opinion on something. I\'m looking at two sets of tires for my GT, either 195-55-16 or 205-55-16. From reading on the forum, people tend to say the thinner tires are better for the winter, but on the other hand, it looks like a lot of people are going with a width of 205. Any thoughts or suggestions on which size is better? Thanks in advance all.

[billyfo]

thinner is better, but you should still stick to similar diameter of the OEM tires, so 205 is the best if you choose 55 series profile.

[Whos ur dadd]

Originally posted by SABIO



Originally posted by Whos ur dadd
Just ordered Dunlop M3\'s for the 6 and Michelin X-ones for the SUV.


Mr. $$$ Money $$$ Bags $$$

All on the line of credit. If the bank will lend, I will borrow. I figure the bank has done its analysis that it would not have lent me the money if it didn\'t think I could pay it back. If it hasn\'t, I plan to sue them for negligently causing my bankruptcy.

A simple and pure argument, if you ask me.

[mwaters]

The bank will stretch you as far as possible, they make $ on interest not on pay offs. They want you to keep that balance going as long as possible hence the 3% minimum payment.

The M3s are nice tires, I\'d get the same if I didn\'t have to buy 2 sets this year.

[uturi2001]

hankook w 300s vs. continental viking snotechs

205/55-16

which is the best bang for your buck?
which is better on snowy icey highways

sam

[MZR3]

I was wondering the same question, Hankook W300 vs. Vinking SnoTech!

I know the price difference is about $130.00, tax in, but performance wise...?

Oh, btw, Wheels Direct just quoted me a set of 205/55/16 Viking SnoTech on new 16\" steelies for $620.00 tax in. However, they said that W300 is all done for the season!

Tire23, do you still have W300 in stock because I am still interested in the W300.

[MZR3]

Hey DS2Chan, you\'ve had your Viking Snotechs for 3 weeks already and we would like to know what\'s your impressio of them...I am thnking of getting a set too. thx.

[TheProfessor]

My wife and I both have the Viking Snowtech\'s on our 3\'s and I have to say thus far (three days) I\'m impressed with their dry pavement performance. They don\'t feel nearly as soft or floaty as I had thought them to be. As a matter of fact, for regular daily driving they feel much like the RS-A\'s. I can\'t believe I\'m saying this but I\'m looking forward to some snow to see how they perform. I have a strong suspicion that come this time next year these tires will be more money.

[RedRaptor]

^
Then they will be the Kumho KW17s of this year then. Last year they were cheap in price and no one wanted them. This year there is limited quantity and an inflated price.

[SABIO]

I have driven a week on my Vikings... Mostly dry roads, a little wet here and there... and a lite sprinkle of snow last friday.
I have absolutely no problem with them at all. They handle like *Normal tires when the road was Dry/Wet. I had thoughts of soft mushy road feel and poor road feedback through the steering wheel when I put these on. But nope.
If you look at the tread, They look like a well thought out All-Seasons....tuned for Snow.

So far... Even though we haven\'t had any major snowfall yet.. 2 Thumbs up. Steering response and road feel are great.

Ok.. an for those that missed it the other 2 times.. heres the tread pattern of the Vikings..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/sabio7/IMG_0746.jpg

[Tires23]

Originally posted by MZR3


I was wondering the same question, Hankook W300 vs. Vinking SnoTech!

I know the price difference is about $130.00, tax in, but performance wise...?

Oh, btw, Wheels Direct just quoted me a set of 205/55/16 Viking SnoTech on new 16\" steelies for $620.00 tax in. However, they said that W300 is all done for the season!

Tire23, do you still have W300 in stock because I am still interested in the W300.

Hello,

We should have one set left. Please give us a call if you are interest.

[mypatpat]

Got a question for you all that got your winter tires. Excuse me if this sound stupid, with the 3 being my first car that I\'ve seriously considered getting winters I had no previous experience...

So here I go...How do I take my stock 17\' rims home once I got my winters in steels on my car? Do they fit in my sedan\'s tiny trunk?

[majic]

Originally posted by mypatpat


Got a question for you all that got your winter tires. Excuse me if this sound stupid, with the 3 being my first car that I\'ve seriously considered getting winters I had no previous experience...

So here I go...How do I take my stock 17\' rims home once I got my winters in steels on my car? Do they fit in my sedan\'s tiny trunk?

fold the seats.. 2 wheels should fit in the trunk, 2 will fit on the backs of folded seats.. if it\'s tight you can put one in the front passenger area (move seat all the way back).. i fit 4 steelies and 4 tires (all dismounted) in the hatch and on the folded seats..

another reason you should have gotten the hatch :D

bring plastic bags (in case the place that puts on your winters doesn\'t provide them) so you can safely throw those dirty wheels/tires inside the car..

[gigileung]

I was wondering the same too. I miss the versatility of my old P5. Transporting a 32\' tele home is not something I can do with the 3 now.

[TheProfessor]

I fit two of my 17\'s in my trunk with my subwoofer still in place. The other two were in the back seat area (rear seats folded down).

[SIM SIMMA]

Originally posted by mypatpat


Got a question for you all that got your winter tires. Excuse me if this sound stupid, with the 3 being my first car that I\'ve seriously considered getting winters I had no previous experience...

So here I go...How do I take my stock 17\' rims home once I got my winters in steels on my car? Do they fit in my sedan\'s tiny trunk?


I have a sedan as well... my stock 17s were put in bags. Two fit easily in the trunk and I did not have to fold the seats down to put the other two in the back seat.

[gigileung]

Just got (the last set)? of Hankook W300 in 205/55/16 from tires23. Was originally going for the Vikings but the shipment didn\'t arrive when I got there, and I went with the Hankook instead. They seemed to be made from a harder rubber compound so I reckenoed they would be better in the dry and maybe wear slower than the softer Vikings. From the drive back, they felt like the stock RS-A, even the tread pattern looks similar somewhat.

I have to say there is great service from tires23, I highly recommend them, its worth the drive. Thanks Martin!

[SpeedyG]

Hi Tires23,

I\'ve tried to pm you and sent you guys an email asking for a quotation but no reply so far :( . So I\'m gonna ask you directly: do you still have the 205/55/16 Hankook W300 at $510 and the hubcentric steel rims for $240/set? If so can you put them aside and let me know so I can call you guys to set an appointment for installation? Thank you.:)

SpeedyG

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by SpeedyG


Hi Tires23,

I\'ve tried to pm you and sent you guys an email asking for a quotation but no reply so far :( . So I\'m gonna ask you directly: do you still have the 205/55/16 Hankook W300 at $510 and the hubcentric steel rims for $240/set? If so can you put them aside and let me know so I can call you guys to set an appointment for installation? Thank you.:)

SpeedyG

Ever thought of giving them a call :sarc

(905) 602-8881

[Whos ur dadd]

ya. i think they may be limited to one PM a day...

[SpeedyG]

Allready tried that. I get the voicemail and that\'s about it.;) I thought I have more chances by using email but apparently not...

[uturi2001]

i got my vikings today from tires23.

so far so good on dry and wet...i can wait for the snow!!!

btw, tire 23 were very busy today the phone was ringing off the hook...so give them a chance.

i had a good experience...i waited a little longer than expected but they were very nice.

sam

[SpeedyG]

uturi2001 did you make an appointment or you just went there and got them on the spot, because I\'m thinking about just showing up there on Saturday and see what happens. Since you said they were very busy this might not work but it\'s worth a try ;)

[ds2chan]

Originally posted by MZR3


Hey DS2Chan, you\'ve had your Viking Snotechs for 3 weeks already and we would like to know what\'s your impressio of them...I am thnking of getting a set too. thx.

sorry for the late reply, I just saw your post..

I drove last friday during the icy conditions and I had no problems.. it actually felt like it was summer out there.. I had no problems stopping quickly and abruptly.. :)

thus, two thumbs up..

[MZR3]

Just a heads up about Wheels Direct\'s service. I am now agree to the earlier post that they SUCK! :( :(

On Monday I booked a appointment today to get the Vikings installed, but as I got there today, they told me Viking is all sold out, and tried to push some lower grade Sep...(?) to me, or ask me to go with Nenex with more $$. They didn\'t even offer any apology for not calling me and the attitude was BAD!

Anyway, just left a message with Tire23 to check availability, even if I have to drive cross town to get them from Tire23 due to the many good thing people had to say about them.

[SGT06]

anyone have the latest package quote for the following?

205/55R16 Viking SnowTech on silver 16\" steelies?

Thx.

[SGT06]

Also,

Is there any advantage between black & silver steelies other than look ?

What does hub centric means ? vs the regular rim ?

Thx.

[TheProfessor]

Oh man, dude, use the search feature. There has been more than enough talk about hub-centric vs. non hub-centric. Colour of steelies is simply personal preference. As for pricing on the Vikings.....many if not all rim/tire shops have run out, possibly for the season!

[gigileung]

Hub centric means the hole at the center of the rim fits over the hub perfectly. Non-hub centric would be that the hole at the center of the rim is larger than the hub to accomodate larger hub sizes, therefore the will be some space between the edges of this hole and the hub.

Despite being inclined towards RAV4 style steelies at first because of the looks, I would go for black steelies because they weight much less than the RAV4 kind, and weight savings means less unsprung weight, better handling, etc etc.

[gigileung]

Drove extensively in snow tonight with the Hankooks W300 and I must say I am very impressed. They were equivalent to the Pirelli Snowsport 210s I had on my earlier P5. If I only found out about the Hankooks earlier, I would\'ve saved alot of money.

[BLKOUT]

Got my winters put on last night at Tires23, gotta say, it came at the perfect time! The difference in like night and day!! I purchased the Viking Snowtech with 16\" steelies. Had to wait a little longer for them to put the rims/tires on, but once they took my car, I was gone in less then 20 minutes. Going back again to get another set for the wife\'s car.

[SGT06]

Thanks gigileung on the pointer about the hub centric and the rims and PSIVIC about the search function. Didn\'t really see the search button until you mentioned it - although the search results is more than what I wanted but I probably just have to refine my search query . I would have gotten the winter tires earlier but I\'m still waiting for the 06 pickup. Hopefully by then the stock would be replenished and demand is lessen. :D

[Broli]

got my snow tires today at tires 23!

i got the viking snowtechs!

and granted it wasn\'t that snowy today
but i went to find a parking lot to test em out!

and wow, what a difference
i wasn\'t all over the place!

i actually had some control over the car!!

sent my buddy there to get some for his 3!

[Simkins]

I went to tires23 yesterday and had the Viking Snowtechs put on as well, excellent service and just the right amount that I wanted to spend. Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +, and before someone pimp slaps me, it was not snowing and there was no ice on the ground,

[Mica3SGT]

Tires23 installed my steelies and Viking Snowtechs yesterday.
Now my ride looks like a budget cop car - but I feel safer and ready for winters worst.
Rain\'s coming next week so I\'ll have today to play in the snow. Zoom Zoom!:p

[RedRaptor]

Wow...seems like everyone this year has the Viking Snowtechs. Not just Mazda3 owners but a lot of other car owners have them as well. :p

I\'ve never seen a hatch cop car though. haha.

[chaser]

Originally posted by Simkins
Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +


pretty expected with aggressive snowtire tread as such :D

[Simkins]

Originally posted by chaser



Originally posted by Simkins
Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +


pretty expected with aggressive snowtire tread as such :D

For sure, im really impressed by them. I went to Canadian Tire to get a quote on some winter tires (because I needed them that day) and they were insisting that my vehice could handle a 13\" rim... idiots... So I decided to wait the extra day and goto tires23... glad i did,

[MZR3]

[i]

For sure, im really impressed by them. I went to Canadian Tire to get a quote on some winter tires (because I needed them that day) and they were insisting that my vehice could handle a 13\" rim... idiots... So I decided to wait the extra day and goto tires23... glad i did,

13\"?? the basic trim (and I mean \"basic\") comes with 15\" wheels...those crappy tire people must be on drugs to say the least if they said 13\" will fit!! :sarc

Tell them try to put a two size smaller shoe on thier own feet to find out if they fit!!

[MZR3]

Originally posted by Simkins


I went to tires23 yesterday and had the Viking Snowtechs put on as well, excellent service and just the right amount that I wanted to spend. Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +, and before someone pimp slaps me, it was not snowing and there was no ice on the ground,



Wow, take it easy Simkins, I do believe there is new tires break-in procedure and 140 clicks may not be part of it if you want your new rubbers to last a season or two more.

[gigileung]

Too bad they hire too many high school students at Canadian Tire...:sarc

[Simkins]

Originally posted by MZR3



Originally posted by Simkins


I went to tires23 yesterday and had the Viking Snowtechs put on as well, excellent service and just the right amount that I wanted to spend. Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +, and before someone pimp slaps me, it was not snowing and there was no ice on the ground,



Wow, take it easy Simkins, I do believe there is new tires break-in procedure and 140 clicks may not be part of it if you want your new rubbers to last a season or two more.

Break in procedure for rubber? Never heard of such a thing.

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by Simkins



Originally posted by MZR3



Originally posted by Simkins


I went to tires23 yesterday and had the Viking Snowtechs put on as well, excellent service and just the right amount that I wanted to spend. Only downside, tire is quite noisy (road noise) 140 km/h +, and before someone pimp slaps me, it was not snowing and there was no ice on the ground,



Wow, take it easy Simkins, I do believe there is new tires break-in procedure and 140 clicks may not be part of it if you want your new rubbers to last a season or two more.

Break in procedure for rubber? Never heard of such a thing.

There is a tire break in period where the tire is a little loud due to the new rubber. On both sets of my Kumho (ASX & KW17), I haven\'t noticed any excessive noise during this period.

[TheProfessor]

Both my wife and I find our Vikings to be no louder than the RS-A\'s.

[SpeedyG]

Finally got my Hankook Icebear W300 from Tires23 on Saturady and I love them. What a difference between the RSA\'s and W300...;) The guys at Tires23 were great, very fast and professional. I cannot recomend them enough. Great service guys!!!:)

[SGT06]

No wonder why Tires23 ran out of the Viking SnowTech, almost everyone on this board are buying them. Grrr...now I got to wait for them to restock.

Would love to hear more from those with the SnowTech experience from last Friday afternoon/nite time when the snowfall was heavey.

[Whos ur dadd]

Thanks to Martin for squeezing me in for the install on Saturday. Great service. A little far for me since I\'m in Markham, but great service for a supporter of the board.

[MZR3]

Break in procedure for rubber? Never heard of such a thing.

For those who never heard of tire break-in period, please see the link below:
http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=117

Please note particularly of this:
Tires are comprised of many layers of rubber, steel and fabric that require a break-in period to assure they achieve their maximum performance and your maximum satisfaction. A few hundred miles of easy acceleration, cornering and braking...at no more than legal speeds will allow all of those components time to get used to working together while the mold release lubricant wears off.
:)

[Jetlag]

Just had my vikings installed today. They\'re a pretty comfortable ride for snows, but I\'ll wait and see how they perform in the snow. Props to the crew at Tires23. Great service.

[ieatkittens]

garrr
Emailed them this morning but no response yet (I know, it\'s their busy season!) But whats really irritating is that the phone number goes directly to a voice mail box that is already full :/

But but but I need to make an appointment for thursday! Woe is me!

Edit: Kumho, Viking and Hankook are all done for the season :(

They suggested the following instead:

King Star W411 (by Hankook) that looks similar with the W404 - with hubcentric steelies $710

[chinsterr]

Any idea when tires23 is going to restock those viking snow tech ?

just looking for a cheap winter tire !!! please save me from going to crappytire/costco/walmart

Chinsterr

[KenYork]

Maybe the first disappointment for tires23.
I called them up last wednesday for the hankook w404\'s 15\'s and they said they would be in for me today, called them again today for a time to install and they told me they didn\'t have them in. I asked for anything available but what they had was more than i could afford. Was put on hold, the line hung up four minutes later. I called them back re-scheduled for the 404\'s friday, said they\'ll call me in the morning to schedule my install. Well i guess i was lucky i didn\'t get the voicemail.

ieatkittens\' says their hankooks are done for the season... does that mean i won\'t get my set on friday?

[TheProfessor]

Originally posted by chinsterr


Any idea when tires23 is going to restock those viking snow tech ?

just looking for a cheap winter tire !!! please save me from going to crappytire/costco/walmart

Chinsterr

E-Spec appears to have stock of the Vikings.

[Tires23]

Dear members,

Due to the extreme high volume of calls and emails, we might not be able to answer all calls and emails in time. We are therefore terrribly sorry for the inconvinenece.

As of now, 205/55/16 and 195/65/15 Viking snowtech are still on back order and may possibly be done for the season.

For 195/65/15 we have in stock:

Hankook Kingstar W411
Pirelli Winter Carving
Gislaved Nordforst 3
and others like Pirelli and Bridgestone

For 205/55/16 we have in stock:

Hankook King Star W411
Continental TS810
Fate AR270 ($400 tax in mounted and balanced) H rated tires.


Thanks and please give us a call if you need immediate attention

[Tires23]

Ken York: Hankook W404 195/65/15 rite? I\'ll make sure to save you a set

Sorry for all the mess.

Thanks

[BLKOUT]

Tires23 is the best place to buy tires. I live in Markham, but the drive to Mississauga is worth it. You can not put a price tag on service! Thanks Tires23!

[KenYork]

Wow! i thought i\'d get no reply, but then i know this is busy season(after first snowfall). Thanks for the reply i\'ll see you guys on friday.

[ryu]

looking for snowtechs?

this guy has more. good deal, i scooped the first set.

http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=4429

ryu

[uturi2001]

i love my new tires!! i felt really confident driving in that mess last week.

u need snow tires. the regular tires suck in winter!

i drove to ottawa and montreal last weekend and they worked great in the snow/rain/slush.

i have the viking snotechs

get ur self some snow tires!!

its so worth it.

sam

[SABIO]

Originally posted by PSIVIC
I have a strong suspicion that come this time next year these tires will be more money.


originally posted by SGT06
No wonder why Tires23 ran out of the Viking SnowTech, almost everyone on this board are buying them. Grrr...now I got to wait for them to restock.

Would love to hear more from those with the SnowTech experience from last Friday afternoon/nite time when the snowfall was heavey

I agree, these tires will not be a low priced product for long. Driving to work 5 in the morning before the plows/sanders hit was a breeze. Great control and feedback from the road. I thought the back end got a little squirmy at speeds reaching 70 km/hr, but the front felt nice like it still had good contact with the road. It wasn\'t until I got to work and heard everyone horror stories about not being able to get out of their driveway, cars in the ditches, only being to drive 20 km/hr becuase it was so slippery on the roads that I thought... Gee.. having to keep it under 70 km/hr wasn\'t to bad after all :)

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by PSIVIC
I have a strong suspicion that come this time next year these tires will be more money.

same thing happened with the Kumho KW17 and KW19. this year, the cost of the KW17 for tires alone were the same as tires+steelies last year!

[KenYork]

Guys at Tires23 are great. Service was a bit slow but they were definitely busy and very courteous with their customers.

[Tires23]

Hi guys:

195/65/15 Viking back in stock.
Pirelli Winter Carving and Gislaved Nordfrost 3 also available in the same size.

Thx

[SGT06]

Finally got my 205/55/16 vikings on steelies. Thx to tires23, although I had to wait almost 2 weeks for it. Overall, very fast service once they get your car in the shop.

[SABIO]

I have driven a week on my Vikings... Mostly dry roads, a little wet here and there... and a lite sprinkle of snow last friday.
I have absolutely no problem with them at all. They handle like *Normal tires when the road was Dry/Wet. I had thoughts of soft mushy road feel and poor road feedback through the steering wheel when I put these on. But nope.
If you look at the tread, They look like a well thought out All-Seasons....tuned for Snow.

So far... Even though we haven\'t had any major snowfall yet.. 2 Thumbs up. Steering response and road feel are great.

Ok.. an for those that missed it the other 2 times.. heres the tread pattern of the Vikings..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/sabio7/IMG_0746.jpg


bump for good info.... GET THE VIKINGS !!!!! Had them last year and they cut through everything. Great steering response when the road was slushy or covered with 8" of snow.
Never once felt I did not have control while braking or turning...(Using common sense of course while driving in poor conditions).

Hook yourself up at TIRES23.com