5000K or 6000K?

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

OK, I think I\'m ready for a HID for my 3, but still trying to decide whether to grab a 5000K or 6000K. I want PURE and BRIGHT white colour for the HID, no blue no purple. I searched around and found that both the 5k and 6k lights would fall into my catagory, but I really have no idea which one will fit into my need the most. Also I\'ve known that both the PROLUMEN and McCULLOCH kit have a decent reputation over the fellow memebers here. So could anyone give me some opinions about which one and which color temp should I get? :)

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe

I want PURE and BRIGHT white colour for the HID, no blue no purple. ....So could anyone give me some opinions about which one and which color temp should I get? :)

you answered your own question in your post.

pure white is 4100-4300K. the closest you\'ll get between 5000K and 6000K is 5000K.

6000K WILL give you some blue (as will 5000K, but not as much).

[chaser]

Heard/read that the brightness of McCulloch fades over time. Wtom has McCulloch, you may check with him.

[eguiyab]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


which color temp should I get? :)

I would recommend the 5000K if your not looking to have any blue. I just installed the Prolumen 5000K kit from Devin and it is very white. At start up it has a nice Blue hue, then after a few sec its white. Majic has a post on here about his install. Do a search for it, its very informative. I would have to agree with him as he said its \"UBER white\". If you see any new BMW\'s around it looks similar or at least I think so.

[bubba1983]

bmw\'s have diff projectors which cut up teh light at diff angles to produce the color that you see...in reality, their probaby only 4300k

if you want pure bright white color, grab the polarion 4100K kit...if u can\'t afford that, grab the 6k....i don\'t liek the 5k...

[Broli]

i vote 6K;)

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

But I used to have a concept about the 5k HID that it more looks like a STOCK light, and the 6ks will look more sharp, brighter although it has a bit of noticeable blue. Am I wrong with that?

[RedRaptor]

5000K = more light output measured in lumens, closer to pure white, hint of blue

6000K = less light output measured in lumens compared to 4100K, 5000K, much more of a blue hint, \"looks\" better and you will get the attention of people easier.

Thats all there is to it.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


But I used to have a concept about the 5k HID that it more looks like a STOCK light, and the 6ks will look more sharp, brighter although it has a bit of noticeable blue. Am I wrong with that?

6000K looks \"more sharp\" because it has a bluer hue to it. the human eye \"detects\" (is attracted to) the blue wavelength far greater than any other colour (which is why the sky is blue to humans, but that\'s another story).

6000K is not brighter than 5000K; again, it is more blue so it appears brighter...6000K throws less lumens than 5000K, meaning that the 5000K is in fact \"brighter\" than the 6000K.

either way, both 5000K and 6000K throw way more lumens than halogens so you\'ll be able to see better regardless...just don\'t think that 6000K has more usable light than 5000K.

[chaser]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe
But I used to have a concept about the 5k HID that it more looks like a STOCK light, and the 6ks will look more sharp, brighter although it has a bit of noticeable blue. Am I wrong with that?

5K doesn\'t look like stock at all! It\'s a lot brighter, whiter, sharper :hoho

[SwooshICE]

the 5000k kit i got from prolumen is visibly yellow.
so I switched to 6000k instead.

[eguiyab]

Originally posted by SwooshICE


the 5000k kit i got from prolumen is visibly yellow.
so I switched to 6000k instead.

Really. I have the same kit and mine is pretty white. If you switch to a 6000k kits you just need to switch the bulbs right??

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

I guess if u bought a 5000K kit at the beginning, after somewhat yrs the bulbs burned out, and u can just buy another set of 6000K bulbs if u want....

[SwooshICE]

If you switch to a 6000k kits you just need to switch the bulbs right??

ya just need to switch bulbs

[Devin98]

I am one for 6K but if you want a real white light then go with the 5K

-Devin

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by Devin98


I am one for 6K but if you want a real white light then go with the 5K

-Devin

Are they Prolumens? how much are they (5k or 6k)?

[Devin98]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98


I am one for 6K but if you want a real white light then go with the 5K

-Devin

Are they Prolumens? how much are they (5k or 6k)?

Well I sell the prolumen kit here locally have both 5000K and 6000K H7\'s

Retail Kits - $360CDN
OEM Barebones - $320CDN


the Barebones kits are just bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, and wires no flashy packaging or zipties. All include a lifetime warranty

-Devin

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by Devin98

Well I sell the prolumen kit here locally have both 5000K and 6000K H7\'s

Retail Kits - $360CDN
OEM Barebones - $320CDN


the Barebones kits are just bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, and wires no flashy packaging or zipties. All include a lifetime warranty

-Devin

OK, I plan to have my HIDs installed by an automotive vendor (say LOCKDOWN), will I be having any problems with those barebone kit if I bring to them for the installation?

BTW, how can I arrange to buy it from u? u have any facility or u want a meet in person?

Thanks,
Danny.

[Devin98]

No problems at all with Lockdown they are who we recommend to install the kits as they have done a ton of them already.

Usally I just meet the person someone close by to do the exchange, email me we can set something up

xtec_hid@rogers.com


-Devin

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98

Well I sell the prolumen kit here locally have both 5000K and 6000K H7\'s

Retail Kits - $360CDN
OEM Barebones - $320CDN


the Barebones kits are just bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, and wires no flashy packaging or zipties. All include a lifetime warranty

-Devin

OK, I plan to have my HIDs installed by an automotive vendor (say LOCKDOWN), will I be having any problems with those barebone kit if I bring to them for the installation?

BTW, how can I arrange to buy it from u? u have any facility or u want a meet in person?

Thanks,
Danny.

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

email on its way! :)

[Devin98]

I received an Email from a Danny, and my emails keep getting bounced back, he said he was from TM3 anyone here?

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by Devin98


I received an Email from a Danny, and my emails keep getting bounced back, he said he was from TM3 anyone here?

That\'s MEEEE!! :D

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98


I received an Email from a Danny, and my emails keep getting bounced back, he said he was from TM3 anyone here?

That\'s MEEEE!! :D

Sorry, I think there\'s something wrong w/my yahoo mail settings. Can u please don\'t use the REPLY feature on the web, and type in an email address w/a new mail. Thanks.

Here:

alice1983@yahoo.com

;)

[Devin98]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98


I received an Email from a Danny, and my emails keep getting bounced back, he said he was from TM3 anyone here?

That\'s MEEEE!! :D

alright well I can\'t send you an email it keeps getting bounced back :(

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

OK, I just fixed it, u can send me thru the email. ---> alice1983@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Danny.

[Xenon]

A really clear, white kit is actually the philips 4300 or 4700 K set. That is a crystal white as you are going to get.

For reference, if you ever see my car or pics, I have a 5000K Xtec set.

(I know my reply is probably late, but better late than never.

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

OH thanks so much for the great opinions from u guys, I really appreciate it. AND finally I\'ve made a decision on going with the Prolumen 6000K kit with our man Devin, and soon I\'ll get it install before the snow hits the ground. :hoho

[Xenon]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


OH thanks so much for the great opinions from u guys, I really appreciate it. AND finally I\'ve made a decision on going with the Prolumen 6000K kit with our man Devin, and soon I\'ll get it install before the snow hits the ground. :hoho

I think that is an excellent choise... You WILL get some colour with that kit, but it is a nice light purple. Broli has that kit I think. It looks sick on his orange hatch. The colour is nice. It\'s white with a touch of purple. Beautiful.

Again. Excellent choice.

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Well, I guess I can\'t go wrong either, with the price that Devin offers me......Now I just need to get some \'hook-up\' from LOCKDOWN on the installation. BTW, does the price that LOCKDOWN charged for installation includes the re-wiring DRL to either the FOG light or Hi-Beam?:sarc

[SwooshICE]

install them yerself n save the money!!
its soooooooo ez!

or u can hand ova da cash n i\'ll handle it for u :D

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by SwooshICE


install them yerself n save the money!!
its soooooooo ez!

or u can hand ova da cash n i\'ll handle it for u :D

Well I wish I can save these money, but I\'ve read the guide for re-wiring/bypass the DRL, and after all, I still have no idea of what the heck it was talking about......:hoho

[SwooshICE]

don\'t worry!
once u open up the hood it\'ll be all clear ;)

[whodilly]

Originally posted by Devin98



Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98


I am one for 6K but if you want a real white light then go with the 5K

-Devin

Are they Prolumens? how much are they (5k or 6k)?

Well I sell the prolumen kit here locally have both 5000K and 6000K H7\'s

Retail Kits - $360CDN
OEM Barebones - $320CDN


the Barebones kits are just bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, and wires no flashy packaging or zipties. All include a lifetime warranty

-Devin

On the Prolumen site (http://www.prolumenhid.com/prolumenhid.htm) they say that the kits have a 1 year manufacturer warranty but you say that they have lifetime warranty.

Which is correct? I would like to be sure about the warranty before i buy a kit. Hope you can clairify this.

[dabomb519]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


Well, I guess I can\'t go wrong either, with the price that Devin offers me......Now I just need to get some \'hook-up\' from LOCKDOWN on the installation. BTW, does the price that LOCKDOWN charged for installation includes the re-wiring DRL to either the FOG light or Hi-Beam?:sarc

Prolly not. It\'s an extra $35-$40. I have the Prolumen 6000K kit. If ya wanna see it, come to these meets. (http://www.torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=3507&page=8)

[Devin98]

The kit comes with a life-time replacement warranty though US no need to deal with Prolumen Direct is Asia

-Devin


Originally posted by whodilly



Originally posted by Devin98



Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by Devin98


I am one for 6K but if you want a real white light then go with the 5K

-Devin

Are they Prolumens? how much are they (5k or 6k)?

Well I sell the prolumen kit here locally have both 5000K and 6000K H7\'s

Retail Kits - $360CDN
OEM Barebones - $320CDN


the Barebones kits are just bulbs, ballasts, ignitors, and wires no flashy packaging or zipties. All include a lifetime warranty

-Devin

On the Prolumen site (http://www.prolumenhid.com/prolumenhid.htm) they say that the kits have a 1 year manufacturer warranty but you say that they have lifetime warranty.

Which is correct? I would like to be sure about the warranty before i buy a kit. Hope you can clairify this.

[Broli]

Originally posted by Xenon



Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


OH thanks so much for the great opinions from u guys, I really appreciate it. AND finally I\'ve made a decision on going with the Prolumen 6000K kit with our man Devin, and soon I\'ll get it install before the snow hits the ground. :hoho

I think that is an excellent choise... You WILL get some colour with that kit, but it is a nice light purple. Broli has that kit I think. It looks sick on his orange hatch. The colour is nice. It\'s white with a touch of purple. Beautiful.

Again. Excellent choice.

haha


yeah man!!!

good choice Delay_NoMore!!
i am truly happy with the colour of my kit!

so i am sure that you will too!!!

[donaldtin]

Here\'s teh pics that i got from Devin, it\'s Prolumen 5K kit

Now Here\'s my pics.

Stock Bulb
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/9119/dsc053305jd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

After changing to Xenon
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/5268/dsc053292hm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Stock vs Xenon
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4471/dsc053347gl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Both Xenon
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5993/dsc053705oy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Real stuff below

HID Prolumen 5000K

Both HID
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8761/dsc053758im.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8356/dsc053792hv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Close up
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5024/dsc053806nq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On the road
http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/3703/dsc053819zs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BLKOUT]

is it possible to change the fog lights as well to match the HID\'s? I think it looks crappy when the headlights are HID and the fogs are not. If so, how much?

[SwooshICE]

is it possible to change the fog lights as well to match the HID\'s? I think it looks crappy when the headlights are HID and the fogs are not. If so, how much?

u\'ll need 2 kits

price would be 2 kits heh

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by SwooshICE



is it possible to change the fog lights as well to match the HID\'s? I think it looks crappy when the headlights are HID and the fogs are not. If so, how much?

u\'ll need 2 kits

price would be 2 kits heh

but I figured the best match would be pair up ur HID with Yellow Fog! Such a nice contrast. That\'s what I on my car and it looked GREAT! :D

[Devin98]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe



Originally posted by SwooshICE



is it possible to change the fog lights as well to match the HID\'s? I think it looks crappy when the headlights are HID and the fogs are not. If so, how much?

u\'ll need 2 kits

price would be 2 kits heh

but I figured the best match would be pair up ur HID with Yellow Fog! Such a nice contrast. That\'s what I on my car and it looked GREAT! :D

That does look sweet, here is a shot of our Prolumen kit as fogs also :)

This is my car
http://thexenonstore.com/car1.jpg
http://thexenonstore.com/car2.jpg


http://www.thexenonstore.com :)

[BLKOUT]

what is the price range for each kit?

[Devin98]

http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=3295

Barebones = $300CDN with local pickup
Retail = $350CDN with local pickup

-Devin Montreuil

[MZR3]

That does look sweet, here is a shot of our Prolumen kit as fogs also :)

This is my car
http://thexenonstore.com/car1.jpg
http://thexenonstore.com/car2.jpg


http://www.thexenonstore.com :)


Hi Devin98, so you have your headlight set up as always on?

[SIM SIMMA]

Got my 6000K kit from Devin.

Installed it tonight with the assistance of my brother.

I think we made it harder than it should have been! :p

[dabomb519]

Originally posted by Jobes


Got my 6000K kit from Devin.

Installed it tonight with the assistance of my brother.

I think we made it harder than it should have been! :p





Now all you need are the yellow fogs...

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/2252/dsc006745ig.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[SIM SIMMA]

yellow fogs? or maybe hit Devin up for another set for my fogs :p maybe in the far future.

for the time being i have a set of Nokya 7000K arctic white lights in there that were given to me for xmas from my little bro.

they are a closer colour match than the stock bulbs but are obviously not a perfect match to my 6000K.... close enough for now though.

[DrunknFoo]

Looks nice, I\'m planning to save up and getting my HIDS @6000k for lows and fogs.
Just my preference, I rather have the fogs and low beams the same temp. Then again, it is costly to do both right? :( Wait and see.

[Kausty]

HIDs as DRL is kinda bright no? Kinda thought DRLs were suppose to be a dimmer light. I\'m trying to get my high beams as my DRL since I dont use em anyway so I can install HID into my fogs too...we\'ll see how that goes tho

[Simkins]

I am really confused as to which kit to get from Devin. He only has 5000k in stock right now, do I wait and get 6000K or will i be happy with the 5000K.... this really is a hard decision.

[SIM SIMMA]

Simkins.. it is a matter of personal preference.

IF you prefer a closer to white colour output you should go with the 5000K... but if you like some more colour tint to your lights go with 6000K. I wanted the bluish/some same purple colour so it was not a hard decision for me and I went with the 6000K.

Whatever will make you happy!

Either way.. you can\'t go wrong... HIDs rule :D

[Simkins]

I want white with some lavander, im not sure if it is possible anymore...

[Devin98]

Originally posted by Simkins


I am really confused as to which kit to get from Devin. He only has 5000k in stock right now, do I wait and get 6000K or will i be happy with the 5000K.... this really is a hard decision.

It is really hard, but the pictures I took are not correct as the 6000K ended up messing with the camera and make the 5000K look yellow.

here is a shot of a 5000K with a good camera $1800

http://www.thexenonstore.com/installs/dan_tc1_large.jpg
http://www.thexenonstore.com/installs/dan_tc4_large.jpg

The top pic is on start up then they shift to a nice white/blue colour

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Hi Devin, I sent u an email regarding H11 HID, do u have H11 HID in barebone kits?

[Devin98]

Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


Hi Devin, I sent u an email regarding H11 HID, do u have H11 HID in barebone kits?

I do not have them in stock at the moment, but I can have it included on my next order, what colour temp would you require? and can you email me your information at xtec_hid@rogers.com

Thanks
-Devin

[DeLaY_NoMoRe]

Originally posted by Devin98



Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe


Hi Devin, I sent u an email regarding H11 HID, do u have H11 HID in barebone kits?

I do not have them in stock at the moment, but I can have it included on my next order, what colour temp would you require? and can you email me your information at xtec_hid@rogers.com

Thanks
-Devin

I would like a set of 6000K H11 in barebone kit. Thanks.

[TheProfessor]

Gonna bring this thread back.....I too am debating between the 5K and 6K kits and will definately be buying from Devin. I want a kit that is nearly all white with just a hint of blue. I definately do not want any yellow (would rather go towards the purple side if necessary). So basically my question is does the 5K have any yellow or blue to it, or is it simply pure white?

[Broli]

dont know about the 5K

the 6K have just a tinge of purple/blue
it looks good, don\'t think u would have anything to worry about with them!

i can\'t rememeber who has 5Ks??

[FLIPDADY]

My 6000k looks all white to me.

I thought it was the other way around?

[SIM SIMMA]

The higher the temp the more purple/blue it becomes.

Joe... check the top of your cutoff when pointed at the wall in your garage and you will notice a lavender colour...

IF you want white with the lavender/blue tinge you\'ll be happy with the 6000K

Not sure who has 5K Prolumen.... there are a few with Xtec 5K

[MAZDA Kitten]

Originally posted by Broli


dont know about the 5K

the 6K have just a tinge of purple/blue
it looks good, don\'t think u would have anything to worry about with them!

i can\'t rememeber who has 5Ks??

i know methodyst has 5k
We compared ours side by side and his are TRULY REALLY REALLY white - no colour at all

[majic]

Originally posted by MAZDA Kitten

We compared ours side by side and his are TRULY REALLY REALLY white - no colour at all


his are bigger ;)

[Xenon]

I hope everyone knows that HID colour (as seen by oncoming traffic) is more about the projector lens and the reflectors than anything else.

The colour (Kelven) of you HID light should only be taken into consideration if that\'s the output colour you want.

Traditionally, HIDs have always been 4100K or 4300K. It is the projector lens and the reflector that makes it purple/blue to oncoming traffic.

A lot of the colour is also respective comparison. Example: Stock Fogs with HID. The Fog lights are actually pretty white. But turn on an HID kit, which is even whiter, and the fogs look yellowish, and due to the contrast in whites, the HIDs look more blue. The more scientific term is called colour sensory adapatation. The HID is white, but since we are used to seeing the fog light white, the HID appears more blue, because it is whiter than our usual reference spectrum of colour.

[MZR3]

Can anyone post pics of MZ3 installed with Prolumen 5000K kit?
I have seen a few 6000K installs, but am interested to see a comparison of these, especially from illumination point, i.e. actual light pattern on the road in front of the car. I am about to jump in for a kit, but I am more interested to know the actual application than how it looks like from on coming traffics. :)

[majic]

Originally posted by MZR3


Can anyone post pics of MZ3 installed with Prolumen 5000K kit?

pictures do not represent the colour faithfully.. better see it with your own eyes



Originally posted by MZR3

especially from illumination point
5000K in theory will produce more light than 6000K


Originally posted by MZR3
actual light pattern on the road in front of the car.
light pattern is the same as the stock halogens.. it\'s the function of the projector housing/lens

EDIT: beating a dea horse here.. :sarc

[SwooshICE]

I hope everyone knows that HID colour (as seen by oncoming traffic) is more about the projector lens and the reflectors than anything else.

heh the crappy projectors on the mazda3 don\'t do much color shift ;)