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MAZDA Kitten
11-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Okay so I will be picking up the Prolumen 6K HID kit next week and it got me thinking about a few things
**MAJIC DISCLAIMER: Yes I searched but I got even more confused.
So will independent fogs work with auto headlight?
If I dont do independent fogs can I still run auto headlight or not really recommended?
Instead of fogs can we just have the bulbs that flash when when turn signal is as \'day time running\' lights
eguiyab
11-23-2005, 10:14 PM
Hey Mazda Kitten.
Yup the independant fogs will work with the auto feature. Thats what I have going on at the moment.
It is not a very difficult mod to do yourself, however I hear that Lockdown has done a recall, based on some issues using aftermarket fog lights. I believe that if you use aftermarket fog lights, you may have some wattage issues with relay. The stocks dont seem to cause any issue. But to make sure its done right, you might wanna go with them.
I\'ve got the stocker\'s and all good so far, but Im gonna head to lock down to get them to re-do it, just cuz I have a set of Hoen\'s sitting on my desk.
Changing the DRL\'s to the turn signals - I\'ve hear of people talking about it but I haven\'t seen anyone do it or write about it.
I installed my Prolumen kit myself, and did the DRL bypass. It quite easy, and there are a few post that touch on it. If I can find it i\'ll let you know.
Basically, once you install your HID\'s you will lose your DRL\'s. Its your choice after that if you even wanna run DRL\'s.
DeLaY_NoMoRe
11-23-2005, 10:21 PM
Yessss the Auto light will still work fine after the independent fog mod, indeed it worked even BETTER than the stock DRL for me (I have lamin-x yellow fog over-lay, so in daytime only the yellow fogs were on, looks sharp!).
Without the independent fog mod nor any DRL bypass mod, the auto light control thing or DRL will not work properly with the HID light u installed, instead the HID lights will just flickering in the daytime(since DRL will run in a different power wattage than the full turned-on headlight, thus the HID light will not be stable in the DRL mode), the only solution u have in this case is turn on the headlight everytime when u start the car in order to avoid the flickering.
Re-wiring the DRL to signal lights is possible, but I have no idea if LOCKDOWN is providing such mod.:sarc
eguiyab
11-23-2005, 10:23 PM
Wiring Diagram (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=1341&page=2)
There\'s a post on here by Chaser that shows how to set up the HID\'s. Once you wire it up this way you lose your DRL\'s.
Independent Fogs (http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.0)
Here\'s a link by M3-GT on the mazda3forums board on how to set up independent fogs. This you can set up as your DRL\'s.
This is the way I set it up, and as you will read - there is a delay from when you turn off the car and when the fog\'s turn off of a few seconds. I know that Lockdown has a way to make it shut of with the ignition.
Hope this helps.
Mica3SGT
11-23-2005, 10:39 PM
I had mine done at lockdown with the independant fog light mod. The HID\'s work off the auto setting - they only turn on when light is required. The fog light uses the separate on/off switch - so I drive during the day with the fogs on. I could turn them off but the car would have no daytime lights as DRL is eliminated. One cool feature of the fog mod is the delayed shut off when the ignition is turned off. The fogs remain lit for about 15-20 seconds and then switch off. This is great for illumination at night when getting to the front door.
I\'ve considered going the angel eyes route to use these as DRL but the prospect of dumping the headlight housing in an oven to open them up scares me.
The simplest method for HIDs is to leave them on with the ignition
DeLaY_NoMoRe
11-23-2005, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by eguiyab
This is the way I set it up, and as you will read - there is a delay from when you turn off the car and when the fog\'s turn off of a few seconds. I know that Lockdown has a way to make it shut of with the ignition.
To be accurately, it\'s EXACTLY 35 secs after u removed the key from ignition (courtesy of LOCKDOWN:p )
MajesticBlueNTO
11-23-2005, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe
To be accurately, it\'s EXACTLY 35 secs after u removed the key from ignition (courtesy of LOCKDOWN:p )
actually, it depends on how long you\'re car has been running.
example, i\'ve had my ind.fogs stay on for over 2 minutes after a 1.5 hour drive. On the other hand, it has stayed on for as little 5 seconds after moving the car off the driveway and onto the street.
eguiyab
11-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe
To be accurately, it\'s EXACTLY 35 secs after u removed the key from ignition (courtesy of LOCKDOWN:p )
actually, it depends on how long you\'re car has been running.
example, i\'ve had my ind.fogs stay on for over 2 minutes after a 1.5 hour drive. On the other hand, it has stayed on for as little 5 seconds after moving the car off the driveway and onto the street.
Yeah, I\'ve noticed that too. Why is that??
I thought it\'s recommended to NOT keep the lowbeams on automatic mode if using HIDs?
Broli
11-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by eguiyab
Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
Originally posted by DeLaY_NoMoRe
To be accurately, it\'s EXACTLY 35 secs after u removed the key from ignition (courtesy of LOCKDOWN:p )
actually, it depends on how long you\'re car has been running.
example, i\'ve had my ind.fogs stay on for over 2 minutes after a 1.5 hour drive. On the other hand, it has stayed on for as little 5 seconds after moving the car off the driveway and onto the street.
Yeah, I\'ve noticed that too. Why is that??
i notice that too!
i heard from Xenon
that it was a matter of how long it takes the computer to turn off!
MajesticBlueNTO
11-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by eguiyab
Yeah, I\'ve noticed that too. Why is that??
from this thread on M3F (http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.210), the slot in the fusebox that supplies the power to the relay is what also powers the electronic throttle body.
whether it is the computer or capacitance in the system that determines when it shuts off, i can\'t say for sure.
lukel90
11-28-2005, 06:31 PM
MK, im going to lockdown to get this ind fog mod fixed, i had the problem and it was shorting out my entire car. the fuses were burned to shit. BTW, i had OEM fogs and not aftermarket ones, so it does it for both.
MAZDA Kitten
11-28-2005, 09:46 PM
OOooh thats scary. I was planning to get my hids installed there. Is everything sorted out?
ONE MORE QUESTION:
What about high beams? Are they affected? So Im driving at night with my 6k HIDS and need to flash someone or something. I know headlights turn off when high beams go on.. same thing? IS this bad for the hids?
majic
11-28-2005, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by MAZDA Kitten
OOooh thats scary. I was planning to get my hids installed there. Is everything sorted out?
ONE MORE QUESTION:
What about high beams? Are they affected? So Im driving at night with my 6k HIDS and need to flash someone or something. I know headlights turn off when high beams go on.. same thing? IS this bad for the hids?
Lockdown is upgrading the relays for everyone. i wouldn\'t hesitate going there if i had to. having said that, i did my HID install myself and my HIDs stay on when i high beam someone :)
blackdragoon
02-21-2006, 12:53 PM
I\'ve done a lot of reading through the posts with regards to HIDs but I was still kinda confused...
I was hoping to have angel eyes installed and used as DRL. I was also thinking of having HIDs installed for night-time use. Is this combination possible?
RedRaptor
02-21-2006, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by blackdragoon
I\'ve done a lot of reading through the posts with regards to HIDs but I was still kinda confused...
I was hoping to have angel eyes installed and used as DRL. I was also thinking of having HIDs installed for night-time use. Is this combination possible?
Yes it is possible.
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