View Full Version : noisy brakes opon start up in cold?
pixelpear
11-28-2006, 12:39 PM
Just curious what other owners have done about this problem. I have a 2004 Mazda 3 GT sedan with *very* noisy front brakes. I year ago my dealership has replaced all the brakes pads and the rotors but they still make a lot of noise in the morning. By a lot of noise I mean, loud squeeling - that wakes up the neighbours and causes pedestrians to stare and shake their heads at me :'(
I recently went back to the dealership to complain again and they kindly replaced the front rotors last Saturday...but the noise persist. Is it hopeless? I appreciate the dealership's help and I love my car but I hate the noise...what else can I do? I'm worried that this will reduce the re-sale value of my car later on when I'm ready to upgrade.
fourtrack78
11-28-2006, 12:46 PM
your lucky that they replaced them for you. They tell me its the cold and when they warm up it should stop.
sbmonkey
11-28-2006, 01:06 PM
Same thing here. Loud squeeling when cold, but goes away after a couple braking sessions.
Don't sell your car when it's cold. ;)
Flagrum_3
11-29-2006, 10:09 AM
Just curious what other owners have done about this problem. I have a 2004 Mazda 3 GT sedan with *very* noisy front brakes. I year ago my dealership has replaced all the brakes pads and the rotors but they still make a lot of noise in the morning. By a lot of noise I mean, loud squeeling - that wakes up the neighbours and causes pedestrians to stare and shake their heads at me* :'(
I recently went back to the dealership to complain again and they kindly replaced the front rotors last Saturday...but the noise persist. Is it hopeless? I appreciate the dealership's help and I love my car but I hate the noise...what else can I do? I'm worried that this will reduce the re-sale value of my car later on when I'm ready to upgrade.
It depends how bad your brakes are squeeling! If its only the first few times you apply the brakes, say first thing in the morning, than its normal.The pads I believe have a high concentration of metal in them hense the metal to metal squeeling sound.I get it also, but 2 or three brake applications and its gone.......If in your case its persistant i.e it occurs all the time even when the brakes are warm, then have them change the brake pads they are the culprit and from what I've read Mazda has issued new pads which are supposed to eliminate the problem.
But come to think of it there was also another problem with the '04s where they had to do some work on the calipers, ....there was a TSB on it.
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Fuman
12-02-2006, 01:05 AM
mazda's "new" pads don't do shit to help with the squealing issue.
new as in early 2006 new.
can anyone with an 07 comment on this?
Flagrum_3
12-02-2006, 09:48 AM
mazda's "new" pads don't do shit to help with the squealing issue.
new as in early 2006 new.
can anyone with an 07 comment on this?
Well that's good to know! One question though are they squealing only when cold or all the time? I asked pixelpear this with no answer so far.
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Skarbro
12-06-2006, 11:29 AM
There is a TSB on this:
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/docs/0004.pdf
Fezuki
01-15-2007, 09:13 PM
I've only had my 07 for a month, and I'm experiencing the same problem. The loud squeaky noise on cold/damp mornings. It goes away after a few brakes, but I find it annoying, i'm sure my neighbours do too =p.
Normal ... almost every Mazda3 owner has this issue with squeaky brakes in the early morning and after leaving the car parked in cooler/cold temps for a few hours.
SonicBoy
01-16-2007, 06:40 PM
I have an 07 too and same thing. Only on cold/damp days. I've found sometimes, I can minimize the noise by pumping the brakes a few times while car is warming up before I put it in reverse to move.
oasis100
01-24-2007, 01:07 AM
got the same problem with my 07
Flagrum_3
01-26-2007, 07:40 AM
Just wondering if anyone on the board here have changed thier brakes to non oem such has EBC or Hawk pads and/or maybe rotors too, and if so, do they still suffer from the squeeling?
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TheProfessor
01-26-2007, 08:48 AM
Both of our Mazda3's (2005 and 2006) also suffer from this 'problem'. Unfortunately it is normal so long as the squaling is gone after the second or third application of the brakes.
Skarbro
01-26-2007, 08:55 AM
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majic
01-26-2007, 10:43 AM
Just wondering if anyone on the board here have changed thier brakes to non oem such has EBC or Hawk pads and/or maybe rotors too, and if so, do they still suffer from the squeeling?
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replaced the rears @ 50K with hawk HPS .. no squeeling (maybe occasional one here and there at startup.. nothing worth plugging my ears)
Chiburashka
01-26-2007, 08:13 PM
Mine just started squeeling today and didn't stop for at least half an hour...I have aftermarket pads in the front and OEM in the back, I'm not sure what make i'll have to ask the guy who installed them for me about a month ago...
1stMazda
01-26-2007, 09:37 PM
I have a 2007 that I picked up a couple of weeks ago, so far I didnt had any noise problems until this morning, it did a squeel, but it was only once, so I hope that was it and its not going to start doing it more often
1stMazda
02-04-2007, 02:46 PM
couple of weeks later and several cold mornings, and no, it was just the one time, im glad it hasnt developed the noise
THX FOR REMINDING ME!!!!
Joe I need you to check this out if it applies to Canada. My VIN falls under the range. Would this be covered under warantee?
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/docs/0004.pdf
mazda lover
02-05-2007, 05:14 PM
THX FOR REMINDING ME!!!!
Joe I need you to check this out if it applies to Canada. My VIN falls under the range. Would this be covered under warantee?
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/docs/0004.pdf
TSB not valid in Canada. My dealer said it applies only to cars sold in the U.S. What is the difference where the car is sold, a problem is a problem. Canadians get it up the a** again. Will wait to see what Joe says
I'm waiting for Joe, its just wierd because my car is in the VIN range, therefore....
mazdamama
02-20-2007, 02:07 PM
My 2005 had the same noisy brakes when backing out of the garage in the morning if it was cold or damp. I mentioned this at my 24000 km service and the dealer said that they would lubricate the calipers since both the pads and rotors were like new. It has been 1 month of extreme cold and still no squeak.
+--SM M3--+
02-21-2007, 08:00 PM
TSB not valid in Canada. My dealer said it applies only to cars sold in the U.S. What is the difference where the car is sold, a problem is a problem. Canadians get it up the a** again. Will wait to see what Joe says
The reason why certain TSB's are only applicable to Canadian Models or US models is because the vehicles are built differently.
The vehicles sold in Canada are designed for the Canadian market and the US vehicles are designed for the US market...hence the reason why a TSB would be valid in US and not Canada. Same goes for recalls.
FLIPDADY
02-21-2007, 08:41 PM
The reason why certain TSB's are only applicable to Canadian Models or US models is because the vehicles are built differently.
The vehicles sold in Canada are designed for the Canadian market and the US vehicles are designed for the US market...hence the reason why a TSB would be valid in US and not Canada. Same goes for recalls.
Thanks for clarifying that Stacey.
mf5781
02-21-2007, 09:31 PM
The reason why certain TSB's are only applicable to Canadian Models or US models is because the vehicles are built differently.
The vehicles sold in Canada are designed for the Canadian market and the US vehicles are designed for the US market...hence the reason why a TSB would be valid in US and not Canada. Same goes for recalls.
I think this's not true for brakes. You think Mazda would use two different sets of brakes for US and Canada and the range of VIN is the same? I had problems on grooved rotors last March. At first the dealer and Mazda Canada all said the TSB was not applicable to Canada. However, after I wrote complaints to Mazda Canada. They finally admitted the TSB was applicable here and my rotors and pads were replaced free of charge. You should not listen to the dealer. If Mazda Canada said it's not covered, ask to speak to their supervisor. You will see the difference.
FLIPDADY
02-21-2007, 09:37 PM
I think this's not true for brakes. You think Mazda would use two different sets of brakes for US and Canada and the range of VIN is the same? I had problems on grooved rotors last March. At first the dealer and Mazda Canada all said the TSB was not applicable to Canada. However, after I wrote complaints to Mazda Canada. They finally admitted the TSB was applicable here and my rotors and pads were replaced free of charge. You should not listen to the dealer. If Mazda Canada said it's not covered, ask to speak to their supervisor. You will see the difference.
Trust me she knows what she's talkin about. There are guidelines each dealer must follow in regards to warranty work. You can't just bring in TSB's and expect the dealer to just replace parts under warranty. It doesn't work that way.
Dealers must take into consideration things like your service history, VIN range, and wether or not there is a problem.
mf5781
02-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Trust me she knows what she's talkin about. There are guidelines each dealer must follow in regards to warranty work. You can't just bring in TSB's and expect the dealer to just replace parts under warranty. It doesn't work that way.
Dealers must take into consideration things like your service history, VIN range, and wether or not there is a problem.
I agree. But the discussion here is the TSB applicable to Canada. If it's, then we do the second step to see if it satisfies the conditions under the TSB. But if we just say no because US TSB is not applicable here, I think it's not really true.
mazda lover
02-22-2007, 08:42 PM
The reason why certain TSB's are only applicable to Canadian Models or US models is because the vehicles are built differently.
The vehicles sold in Canada are designed for the Canadian market and the US vehicles are designed for the US market...hence the reason why a TSB would be valid in US and not Canada. Same goes for recalls.
What do you mean they are built differently? in what way? Only difference are the opitions that I can see. Different engine,tranny,materials, what?
I phoned Mazda Canada and still no luck. If anybody has had some luck than give us names of who you were talking to. That would be most helpful.
majic
02-22-2007, 10:11 PM
don't forget he different cluster ;)
mf5781
02-23-2007, 12:38 AM
What do you mean they are built differently? in what way? Only difference are the opitions that I can see. Different engine,tranny,materials, what?
I phoned Mazda Canada and still no luck. If anybody has had some luck than give us names of who you were talking to. That would be most helpful.
Try to call Ryan Ortiz 905-787-7154 or his supervisor Greg Zaffarano 905-787-7096.
mazda lover
02-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Try to call Ryan Ortiz 905-787-7154 or his supervisor Greg Zaffarano 905-787-7096.
Thanks for the names and numbers. Who are these people? Where do they work.
I had my front brake pads replaced under the TSB. The noise is now gone.
sunset_orange
02-27-2007, 05:56 PM
I had my front brake pads replaced under the TSB. The noise is now gone.
Which dealer did you go to?
Which dealer did you go to?
I service my car at Avante. During the 48K service I mentioned this problem and after the tech checked out the car, VIN, TSB eligibility, etc., and what's left on the front pads (some 75% left if I recall correctlly) they replaced them under the TSB. So far so good - no more loud squeaking noice when backing out of my garage in cold weather.
marchz24
03-01-2007, 08:28 AM
My 07 does it only when I reverse out of the garage. Then its gone. It's so loud and annoying.
mazda lover
03-03-2007, 08:57 PM
My 07 does it only when I reverse out of the garage. Then its gone. It's so loud and annoying.
The 07 still have the problem. Looks Mazda has done nothing to solve this problem since the car first came out in 04. Why doesn't the 07s have the TBS fix from the factory? I guess Mazda has a boat load of these pads-rotors that they have to use up. Keep using them and hope owners don't complain.
OK Majic the ball is in your court.
High metallic content in the pads. You can just always switch out the pads.
Just an update on the front brakes issue. As I posted a while back, I had my front pads replaced under the TSB in February.
The squeaking noise when backing out of my driveway stopped, but I have a new problem: now they are very noisy all the times.
At first I thought that is because they are new, humidity etc.
Now I have about 2000 Km on them and they are still loud and make some sort of grinding noise. I tend to think that I was better off before. Is anyone having the same problem?
We have that problem too and the car is parked in a garage overnight.
--StayFly--
02-06-2008, 10:21 AM
[QUOTE=pixelpear;134336]Just curious what other owners have done about this problem. I have a 2004 Mazda 3 GT sedan with *very* noisy front brakes. QUOTE]
that happens to me sometimes too
FLIPDADY
02-06-2008, 11:25 AM
that happens to me sometimes too
Take brakes out spray brake quiet on the the back of the pads and re-install.
Take brakes out spray brake quiet on the the back of the pads and re-install.
Ha ha ha ha nice.
Jeff0
02-06-2008, 08:05 PM
[QUOTE=mazda3 4u;155880]The 07 still have the problem. Looks Mazda has done nothing to solve this problem since the car first came out in 04. Why doesn't the 07s have the TBS fix from the factory? I guess Mazda has a boat load of these pads-rotors that they have to use up. Keep using them and hope owners don't complain.
I think so, even my one month old 08 Mazda3 has this problem too. But the noise is not that loud yet...grggrggrgr
x_o_k_x
02-16-2008, 05:00 PM
dont buy cheap brakes, that solves it
Tokic_o
02-16-2008, 05:06 PM
dont buy cheap brakes, that solves it
the problem are the stock brakes...its not necessarily people choosing to buy cheap replacement brakes.
Fuman
02-16-2008, 05:37 PM
the problem are the stock brakes...its not necessarily people choosing to buy cheap replacement brakes.
+1
ceramic brakes squeal
hoodlum
03-05-2008, 12:49 PM
What is different about the Mazda3 brakes. I have never had this problem with other vehicles I've owned, including an older protege.
mazda lover
03-05-2008, 02:46 PM
dont buy cheap brakes, that solves it
what do you suggest. Hawks green? Ceramics and not metalic?
mazdathree
04-20-2008, 09:46 PM
I have this squeak and squeal problem in the brakes since day one....its been 1.5 yrs now...i had it checked at the dealer and they said there is nothing wrong and some of it is normal....I'm now used to the noise and it doesnt bother me anymore....
I remember once renting a cavalier and the breaks on them made similar noises....so its a common problem with economical cars I guess?
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