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cyberscorpi0
04-16-2007, 12:52 PM
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Chief: At least 20 dead in campus shootings

(CNN) -- The Virginia Tech police chief said at least 20 people were killed in twin shootings on the Blacksburg campus Monday morning.

"Some victims were shot in a classroom," Chief Wendell Flinchum said, adding that the gunman was dead.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

The attacks mark the worst school shooting incident since 1999 when Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado.

A hospital spokeswoman told The Associated Press that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

Sharon Honaker at the Carilion New River Valley Medical Center told CNN that four patients had been transported there, one in critical condition.

One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, an engineering building, resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported.

The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.

Amie Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported "mass chaos."

The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.

Kristyn Heiser said she was in class about 9:30 a.m. when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.

"We were like, 'What's going on?' Because this definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen. It's pretty boring here," said Heiser during a phone interview as she sat on her classroom floor.

Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

"They told us to get out of there so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could," he said.

Waldron described the scene on campus as "mayhem."

"It was kind of scary," he said. "These two kids I guess had panicked and jumped out of the top story window and the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape just lying on the ground."

Madison Van Duyne said she and her classmates in a media writing class were on "lockdown" in their classrooms. They were huddled in the middle of the classroom, writing stories about the shootings and posting them online.

The university is updating its 26,000 students through e-mails, and an Internet webcam is broadcasting live pictures of the campus.

The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.

After the Monday shootings, students were instructed to stay indoors and away from windows, police at the university said.

"A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows," read a warning from the university.

"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where they are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus," a statement on the university Web site said.

TheProfessor
04-16-2007, 01:00 PM
Holy crap, just heard about this. Some scary stuff happening in the world.

S.F.W.
04-16-2007, 01:16 PM
ya, this is really scary stuff. I would be interested to know if they ever find anything relate to motive.

Wild Weasel
04-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Well... like all the other school shootings that happen, the shooter is dead so we'll probably never know. :(

Just once I wish he'd live so people could say "WTF???" and actually get a response!!

Broli
04-16-2007, 02:26 PM
yeah just heard about this, seems a year or two can't go by with something like this happenning

its too bad

3GFX
04-16-2007, 02:46 PM
Stepped in the door and my roomates had it on CNN.

This is terrible :(

Garu
04-16-2007, 02:53 PM
My god another random shooting, these things are seriously disturbing.

wingnut12
04-16-2007, 08:21 PM
It's disturbing how little people care about each other now.

What's even more disturbing to me personally, is that it now
happens so regularly that I no longer feel the outrage that I should.

justin
04-16-2007, 08:44 PM
What angers me most about this whole thing is not so much that it happened (not that I am not sad it happened, I'm very sad about it), but what's going to happen now.

Families now need to bury their dead, grieve over their losses, and collectively, we will need to understand why this happened and how we can prevent it from happening again.

It's funny, everytime something like this happens, we jaw on and on about how to prevent it, and yet it just keeps on happening.

The worst part about all of this is that it could have been prevented. It took over 2 hours for police and college administration to issue a statement (via podcast) about the events and respond to the first shooting that occurred at around 7am.

When will the US Government become more strict with guns? How many people have to die because of lax gun laws? How many fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, friends and neighbours must we lose before we realize that what we are doing is not enough?

wingnut12
04-16-2007, 08:58 PM
I don't think it's about guns. Take them away and people will always find ways to kill each other.

It just seems for a new breed of people, the thought of life itself just isn't as important as it used to be.

Broli
04-16-2007, 09:28 PM
we will need to understand why this happened and how we can prevent it from happening again.


honestly, i dont think that this sort of thing can be prevented. It has been proven time and time again, that if someone wants to go on a shooting rampage in a public place they can accomplish it easily

justin
04-16-2007, 10:08 PM
honestly, i dont think that this sort of thing can be prevented. It has been proven time and time again, that if someone wants to go on a shooting rampage in a public place they can accomplish it easily

Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct. It comes down to guns, and how easy they are to get. It always has been.

A few years ago, you could walk into a Zellers, go to the gun rack, pick out a gun, get some ammo, and walk out.

Even these days, it's easy to get one. Ask the right amount of people in the wrong kind of neighbourhood, and walk away with a piece.

Stupid.

Broli
04-16-2007, 10:14 PM
yeah, you are right, though the kind of people who are likely to use guns in such a violent way are likely to get guns not thru any legitimate sources, (they may sometimes, but the smart ones would not)

i guess guns do kill people!

it was intereting in Bowling for Columbine, where they showed that canadians had as many guns per capita as americans.

i wonder what the breakdown is by sort of gun and if it includes unregistered and illegal firearms (i can't remember if it did or not?)

iconicrocket
04-16-2007, 10:56 PM
I was at work when I heard that. Holy crap! That's scary.

Sean80
04-17-2007, 01:04 AM
I have to agree with the whole gun law issue. But it will be hard to introduce any sort of registration laws where there is high firearm to people ratio.

It's very sad to hear about things like this. I wish it would just stop.

Jeff-TheBiz
04-17-2007, 09:24 AM
WTF?

I mean, what can get someone that messed up that their judgement is that messed.

Broli
04-17-2007, 09:27 AM
i'd imagine many things can
we will see in the days ahead
what sort of personal issues the person had
whether they had any sort of mental disorder

sp3GT
04-17-2007, 03:28 PM
I think he must of had some mental disorder, I read on yahoo it says he was a loner; so no one even knows anything at all about him. It's gonna be hard to find a motive.

majic
04-18-2007, 02:31 PM
what a ****ing idiot dr (???) phill is..

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39007

best part of that article..


He also managed to get his paws on a nine millimetre handgun and a 22-calibre handgun, but apparently that is normal behaviour for a depressed kid in the US


more here (http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/17/dr-phil-blames-video-games-for-virginia-tech-massacre/)

Wild Weasel
04-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Dr. Phil is a quack, and I generally want to punch him in the face when I see his picture.

Does that make me a sociopath?

I should probably avoid video games.

3GFX
04-18-2007, 03:29 PM
Wow, I guess I should stop playing GTA.....odd I keep yelling out "PROFESSIONALS KIT" but I still don't have a bazooka.

Broli
04-18-2007, 03:38 PM
I hate Dr. Phil!

he is a freaking retard!

you know what video game i would love to play, one where you get to shoot the shit out of Dr. Phil!

Wild Weasel
04-18-2007, 03:41 PM
you know what video game i would love to play, one where you get to shoot the shit out of Dr. Phil!

There MUST be a flash game on the Net somewhere that allows you to do exactly that... :chuckle

3GFX
04-18-2007, 03:49 PM
Audio clip, "I don't like Dr. Phil" (prank call; pretty funny)
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/drphil-prank1.html

Dr. Phil Soundboard
http://www.mediabum.com/html/Dr-Phil-Soundboard.html

Bill vs. Dr. Phil
Bill v. Dr. Phil. (http://www.lulu.tv/?p=5084)

Broli
04-18-2007, 03:51 PM
There MUST be a flash game on the Net somewhere that allows you to do exactly that... :chuckle

can't check this out at school

but . . .


http://www.atariage.com/hack_page.html?SystemID=&SoftwareHackID=136