View Full Version : Would these rims fit?
It's a 17" gunmetal 5zigen typhoon
17x8
bolt pattern: 5x114
offset: 43
I'm looking to pick up a used set from a fellow rsx owner.
Hopefully it's okay with the 8 inches and the 43 offset.
Also, one rim hit the curb slightly. Is that bad enough to just walk away from the deal? Thanks
Also, these rims will come with a set of ziex 512 already mounted.
BTW, It's for a 2005 Mazda 3 GT Sport.
dentinger
11-21-2007, 08:47 AM
it sounds like they will fit, especially with 512 tires already mounted on them.
and could we see a pic of the damaged rim?
Its cutting it quite close, what is the tire size?
I was running 17 x 8 with +48 and they didn't give me much room for play. If you have a rounded off tire that would help greatly as mine were squared up a little more. I still think the 5mm difference up front might start to stick out. 5mm does sound like much but when it comes to wheels its quite a difference. It may work with 215/45 but I still wont back that up with a definite yes.
TurboEight
11-21-2007, 10:02 AM
I doubt they would fit if ur lowered...
wait....only giving rim width will not help us get you the info you need...you need to get us the tire TIRE width as well.....
You're gonna cut it really close on the inside. You've got an extra wide rim, and on top of that your offset is smaller.
He wont have a problem rubbing on the inside. I ran 48+ and was fine and hes got a 43 offset pushing him further away.
Thanks for all the quick reply. I'm meeting up with the guy today to check it out and I'll get the tire specs. He's selling the whole set for 650 with tires and they have about 60-70 tread left. I'll have to check out the scratch as well. Anyway to determine whether the scratches are okay or really bad?
This will be my first time buying rims so I don't know anything about it. Is it even a good deal for 650?
Here is a photo he posted up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/1Darkchaos/side.jpg
Whoops I meant outside, thx meth!
If you can, throw one on the front and double check turn the wheel both ways with the car on the ground and check clearence.
You might be able to squeeze it, I wouldn't do it though unless you're running 215 or 205 tires with some serious stretch.
Be cautious of how bad the damage is. If the curb rash is really bad then there is a fair chance that the rim can be bent. Try and look around each rim on the inside and out for any bent or folding metal. Unfortunately a rim may be bent but you cannot physically see it, i believe its more of a twisted rim.
Repair and powder coat can run you approximately $150-200 a wheel. If any of them are bent, it may or not be fixable and the price would be a little more.
Your best bet if you decide you want to purchase the rims is to ask the seller to come with you to put the wheels on a balancer at your own cost. At least if they don't balance your only out $40-60 as opposed to being stuck with rims that need repair or replacing.
How cheap are these rims going for? If its not worth it I'd look else where.
There are some nice rims for under $1000, even a member here (Pearly) is selling rims for $800 (all four).
Oh something I looked into for yah!
The hub bore on an RSX is 64.1, the hub bore on the Mazda 3 is 67.1. Make sure that the wheels have a larger hub bore and that hes using hub rings. If the hub bore on the wheels is not larger you will not be able to fit them on your car. If the seller is using hub rings then you will be fine, but keep in mind another $20 to purchase new rings to fit your car.
He's selling the whole set with tires for 650. His asking price was 700. They would look pretty nice on a white mazda 3 imo. Is that a deal or no deal?
Sounds like a steal assuming everything is fine and exactly as he says.
I dont know how well this works with a Canadian dime but if you want to test thread depth on a tire put the dime with the head of the woman down. If the tires hide some of the head when you look at it right on then the tires are still a good depth. If you can see the top of the head then those tires are on their way out the door.
Sounds like a stupid way to do it but everyone has their ways...
If you get your hands on a vernier, you need more the 2mm ;)
It sounds like a deal if everything is ok. Throw one on and check if its gonna fit. If it clears to your wants then go for it.
sorry if it's a stupid question but what's a vernier and with that I need +45mm instead of 43?
Ya, I think it's a good deal from first glance but then again, what do I know about tires? lol
So the tires should be okay if they're 215 or 205? Somehow I have a feeling they would be 225...
Well yah! but a dime is easy to come by... :chuckle
225 is standard for a 8" rim, but you can stretch tires to fit better depending on the setup. The thing about stretching tires is that you lose the rim protector because they are pulling away from it. So be extra careful next to curbs if thats the case!
WOW this is informational and upping my post count... who would a thunk!
Hmm. I'm not the biggest fan of the look, but personal preference on that one.They look like they're in good shape.
Stretch is for looks (personal preference) but it can be good for clearance. It invoved getting a narrower tire than the rim. So in this case anything less than a 225. The fact that the tire kind of get narrower means you get that extra bit of clearence.
Ya it' personal preference. I like it because the chrome edges will fit nicely with my white mazda 3 and I've always wanted gunmetal rims with spokes just like that. It's not the best rims but for 650, I don't know where else I can get something close to what I want.
I'll let you guys know the outcome and when I get the tire dimensions. Thank you guys so much for helping me out.
Cool, keep us posted....with pics!
Hey, I met up with the guy today. It turns out that we go to the same university lol. Had the same parking pass.
Anyways, looked at the rims, there's a scratch on the edge when he was downtown doing a parallel park and he got too close to the curb so it rubbed against it a little. Doesn't seem to be distorted or bent. It's the same type of scratch that I have on my stock rims from rubbing the curb. No pics but hopefully it's okay.
The tires are Falken ziex 512 and the specs are 215/45/r17. Do you think it will fit? Anyone know the specs for stock mazda 3 rims for the 17 inch? Is it 17x7 or 17x6.5? and what's the offset for stock?
If possible, I need a definite answer as to whether it will fit or not because I will need to buy it on Friday or shortly after that. Thanks for all the help here.
Honestly no one will give you a definite answer. No one has run that low of an offset. I think I have run the closest to limit and really am kinda worried about that extra 5mm although running 215 will definately help and especially the 512 because they have a stretched look even when their not.
If you are gonna do it then I do not suggest going with a big drop. Something mild and with a firm spring rate. Pro-kits would be a good compensate. That should keep you from rubbing or if you do it will only rub at full lock. You may or may not need to roll the rear fenders depending on the drop and camber.
Thanks again for the reply. I do not plan to lower the car and the guy agreed to let me try it on on Friday. So when I put it on, to check it means I turn it left and right to see if it rubs? Anything else to watch out for?
stevenlung
11-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Thanks again for the reply. I do not plan to lower the car and the guy agreed to let me try it on on Friday. So when I put it on, to check it means I turn it left and right to see if it rubs? Anything else to watch out for?
You are not going to rub, I'm running 18x8 +45 225/40/18 with H-tech, it never rub once, yours is 17x8 +43 (only push out 2mm more than mine) with 215/45/17, your chance of rubbing is closed to ZERO if you don't lower it, unless you drive like a rally driver :chuckle
Your probably gonna get away with it. The stretch will help.
Stock 17" rims are 6.5" wide with 52.5mm offset.
I think with the stretch factor in, you will be fine, but dont quote me... You are going to want a drop after you put them on! :chuckle
Actually with an 18" wheel there are other variables to look at. When it comes to the tires you have to look at the section width of the tires as well. I have seen 225 for an 18" and 17" and the 225 on the 17" was actually greatly wider.
You are not going to rub, I'm running 18x8 +45 225/40/18 with H-tech, it never rub once, yours is 17x8 +43 (only push out 2mm more than mine) with 215/45/17, your chance of rubbing is closed to ZERO if you don't lower it, unless you drive like a rally driver :chuckle
I'll put them on and see if they rub. How do you check thoroughly? Do I just turn the steering wheel left and right and do I even need to check the rear? Thanks I'll let you know whether it fits or not later one when I put it on.
Stevenlung, Did you drop yours with the new rims?
stevenlung
11-22-2007, 01:49 PM
I'll put them on and see if they rub. How do you check thoroughly? Do I just turn the steering wheel left and right and do I even need to check the rear? Thanks I'll let you know whether it fits or not later one when I put it on.
Stevenlung, Did you drop yours with the new rims?
Yes, i dropped with Tein H-tech, don't worry about rubbing if you're not going to drop it, for the lock to lock thing, its not going rub unless you SLAMMED it, if you're still worry, turn the wheel all the way to the left/right to see how much space left inside the fender then drive around and see, also find some big ass speed bumps and drive over it to see it rub or not
let say if you want to lower it in the spring or something and you're experiencing rubbing, just roll the damn fenders ($80-100 or so)
This is my wheels if you wanna see it, I'm letting it go, LMK if you want it, cuz I got a new set of 18x7.5 +42 for next summer
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=20999&highlight=18x8+rsgt
IMO, 8" wide +43-45 is the limit that you can go in the front (215 or 225 is your decision, go to http://www.tirerack.com to check out the tires spec), for the rear, I don't see how can it rub
FYI, offset calculator http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp
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