Any witnesses for accident Sat Mar 15 @ 6pm-ish

[drey]

Time: 6:00-6:15pm
Date: Sat Mar 15 (today)

My friend in a black 4 door civic got into an accident at the intersection of Dundas St. West & Vega Blvd in Mississauga (right outside the Tim Hortons, Silvercity intersection. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=l5l+4h6&ie=UTF8&ll=43.515739,-79.688194&spn=0.006878,0.014591&z=16"]Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=l5l+4h6&ie=UTF8&ll=43.515739,-79.688194&spn=0.006878,0.014591&z=16)

I wasn't there but I've learned from him that a woman in a van hit him after running a red light at the intersection. According to him, he had been sitting waiting for a good time to make a left turn - he was there since the green light turned on. The lights turned red, so of course after all the cars have past, you make your turn but some woman in a van decided to run the red light (and according to him, it was already red) and hit my friend as he began to make the turn.

What's interesting is that a tow-truck driver was there and witnessed the entire incident but was told to leave the scene because an police officer had told him to leave, which leaves me a lot of questions marks.

If anyone witnessed it, let me know. I'm not sure what the chances are someone from this board saw the incident, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Hope my explanation was good enough.

[MPS]

looks like ur buddy is @ fault no matter what

[Fuman]

looks like ur buddy is @ fault no matter what
?? lady ran a red.
If his buddy's car is over the line at the time of the light turning red, he can still go if its safe (cross traffic has not begun moving)


Drey: Sorry, I asked my friends as well, but no one in the area at the time.
Does your buddy remember the tow truck company (I'm assuming Tow Truck Company name would be on the side of the truck)

[MPS]

person making the turn is @ fault

[Fuman]

person making the turn is @ fault
glad u aren't a lawyer.
re-read my 3rd post. I edited after you posted.
That is what a police officer told me as I was a witness to a similar accident last year

[MPS]

what ever dude its not the first time this has happend
i know it suck but it is what it is

[drey]

I'm not sure if I was clear but the lady in the van ran a red light according to my friend. Other cars had already stopped but she decided to take the chance.

MPS: I thought you get a ticket if you run a red light whatever the excuse the offender/driver comes up with.

[cwp_sedan]

person making the turn is @ fault

+1.

She will get charged for whatever law she has broken (fail to obey red light) but the person turning will most likely be the at fault party for the accident. So your buddy will most likely get charged for improper turn. I would fight it either way but I have seen this happen before.

[MPS]

yes but the person making the turn is laible
even if the lady runs the red

[Fuman]

I guess the police officer I talked to meant 50% at fault. Guessing it is because they both ran the red

(2) If the driver of automobile “B” fails to obey a traffic signal, the driver of automobile “A” is not at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 15 (2).

(3) If it cannot be established whether the driver of either automobile failed to obey a traffic signal, the driver of each automobile shall be deemed to be 50 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 15 (3)

[flylice13]

doesn't matter who's fault this or who's fault that...it's as simple as putting the person who is making a turn at fault. doesn't matter if the other person ran a red light...it sucks, i know. it's just like if you hit a pedestrian (yes, even if they deliberately jump infront of your car), the driver of the vehicle is always at fault. the cop might charge you 50% at fault, however, insurance companies follow their own standards and their own rules & regulations. it really depends on the insurance company.

[WeatherB]

Is there a red light camera at that intersection?

[Garu]

I hope you find an eye witness at the scene of the accident. If you do, that might give some leverage, however it will hardly be 100% the other party's fault.

[RX9]

i knew this sounds suck, but for left turn, the driver has to make sure its save then turn,well i have been seen lots lots bad drivers rushing the yellow or red lights then hit the left turners. even there are witnesses, the left turner is still the fault side, no matter what.
well, the drivers rushed the RED will be charged couple more charge than only trafic ticket, but you are still the fault side. btw, there are lots assheads just want to claim the insurance for money, drive safe.

[RX9]

?? lady ran a red.
If his buddy's car is over the line at the time of the light turning red, he can still go if its safe (cross traffic has not begun moving)

its not safe then.

[Skarbro]

it's just like if you hit a pedestrian (yes, even if they deliberately jump infront of your car), the driver of the vehicle is always at fault.
This is not true. But you are on the right track. You are automatically guilty until proven innocent. If the driver can prove that the pedestrian is at-fault (i.e., jumping in front of your car), then you are NOT at-fault.

[ShortBus]

yup, unless your buddy finds some witnesses that can say for sure that the other party ran a red, they are going to be found at fault.

[RallyPlaya]

What happened to your friend is EXACTLY What happened to me... And Guess What I Just had My Court Hearing Tday from an event last year in February = Case Withdrawn as the other driver and the police officer didnt show up.... So my record is still Mr. Clean Clean... My Court Case took maybe 3 seconds tops hahahaha

[REZXPERT]

doesn't matter who's fault this or who's fault that...it's as simple as putting the person who is making a turn at fault. doesn't matter if the other person ran a red light...it sucks, i know. it's just like if you hit a pedestrian (yes, even if they deliberately jump infront of your car), the driver of the vehicle is always at fault. the cop might charge you 50% at fault, however, insurance companies follow their own standards and their own rules & regulations. it really depends on the insurance company.

say i'm cruising down the highway and someone bails from the car in front of me and my only choice is to run them over (or swerve thereby cutting off traffic and starting a chain reaction?) you think i'm jokin.. i know someone that did that.... he bailed out of the backseat b/c he got into an arg't w/ his g/f. in case you're wondering, he survived & i think they're married now:bang

anyways, yeah, i think your point doesn't cover suicidal pedestrians.

[Cardinal Fang]

I think the point some people are making is that when you turn or change lanes it's up to the driver turning to insure that the area is safe for that maneuver. This I believe is especially true of lights turning red. Just because it's red does not automatically make it your right of way. You have to ensure the intersection is clear and then proceed. The driver that ran the red would be charged in my opinion but so would the driver in the intersection.

I always make sure the driver is coming to a stop before sliding across the intersection. I can't tell you how many times I've almost decided to go across the intersection only to see the driver who's coming to a stop at the last minute decide to "gun it."

[wtom]

I'm living proof that it's left-turner's fault no matter what colour the traffic light is.

Don't ask me to post the pic.

Of my car that is. :)

[kaval]

^You know we're gonna ask for a pic now right? lol!

[x_o_k_x]

In that case I would say 50/50