Mazda3 owners with corrosion issues; information here!

[Triznox]

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If anybody wants one of these I had 2 made and still have 1 left. Stylishly works with most dealership decals, and easy to put on and take off with a heat gun or hair dryer. $20 shipped. PM me if you want it.

[hali83]

Brought my 3 in to the collision shop I was referred to by my dealership today. The manager took pictures of the rust and said that he would send off the information and told me they should cover it, just takes some hoops to jump through haha. He said I should have an answer by this time next week :)

[hali83]

oh yes, forgot to mention that I'm actually in Nova Scotia ;)

[spuds64]

I too have a lot of rust in both real wheel wells, the rear bumper seams particularly the left side, and there's a large flake of paint that has mysteriously fallen off the right rocker panel.
Had the car rustproofed @ Krown in December '09 and then in October '10 my son-in-law did it for me with a container of dripless oil/sprayer.

[Meaty G]

I have a 2005 Mazda 3 GT sedan with GFX package. I have had rust on my car in the past. I have had it fixed 3 times by 2 different body shops. All 3 times it was covered by warranty, although the 3rd time I had to threaten to sue Mazda. They said it was out of warranty by 1 week. This was a staffing problem at the dealership as a result of their service manager being off on vacation when I came into the dealership originally (while still under warranty). They waited to submit my claim until that service manager returned from vacation. Because of that, it was out of warranty by the one week. In the end it was fixed after weeks of back and forth negotiations and covered by warranty. Now that warranty is over, and I am on my own for any new rust issues. The dealership was St. Catharines Mazda. My car continues to rust in the same spots.

[mzkaye729]

Well I got the rust "fixed" by Agincourt Mazda under warranty.

Fast forward to a few months and the rust is back... and much worse than before. I pretty much give up.

[Gods Son]

I finally got some rust on my rear left door. Loved the car but I'm pretty sure this is going to be my last Mazda. Minus the issues it was a great car.

[sol_searchin]

Mazda is going to lose a lot of sales over the year's as people realize the quality isn't that great. Mine drives great but rusted to shit at 2 year's old, my 1995 honda civic wasn't that bad.... Thank god I sold my 3! no more headache!

[WLS ZMZM]

I find I have some issues around the third brake light in the trunk area and on the driver side rear wheel well...... when hopefully it won't be too bad and I can fix it myself...

[Proudfoot]

Reg's Auto Refinishing is a great place to get your car sprayed for rustproofing.

I will be taking my new (2007) Mazda 3 there for a spray in a month or so. I have heard that our cars really are susceptible to rust around the wheel wells.

I have taken my previous car, a '95 Camry, there for years and do not have 1 visible rust point on the car. He doesn't seem to have a website, but here is a crazy long link to give you some details:

http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=reg%27s+auto+refinishing&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=reg%27s+auto+refinishing&hnear=Toronto,+ON&cid=11280600764599364035

Proudfoot:headbang

[mazdabetty]

blahhhhhhhhhhhh

Farkin rust coming back around my third brake light. Mutha***aa..... WAY past my warranty, but it's been fixed once before so I'm wondering if the bodyshop they sent it to has this covered under their own warranty?

If not I guess I'll have to turn on the waterworks and create some drama at the dealership. *sigh* lol

[Thrizzl3]

oh snap..i gotta check mine

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

blahhhhhhhhhhhh

Farkin rust coming back around my third brake light. Mutha***aa..... WAY past my warranty, but it's been fixed once before so I'm wondering if the bodyshop they sent it to has this covered under their own warranty?

If not I guess I'll have to turn on the waterworks and create some drama at the dealership. *sigh* lol

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[Hoodzy]

Hey sorry I haven't read through the entire thread. But has anyone looked up a government consumer protection agency?? Lemon law type things?
Something like this? http://consumerinformation.ca/app/oca/ccig/abstract.do?abstractNo=KH000010&language=eng

I believe they were doing this in the states or even Canada with the paint problems on Lancer's.

[shu5892001]

I got rust coming back on my 2005, my car went on the road on 2005 July, can some one tell me if the rust warranty is 6 years or 5 years?

[shu5892001]

Never mind, I think it should be 6 years on wheel wells...

[ParsM3GT]

I have 2005 Mazda 3 GT Sedan. I had both back wheel wells done for rust in July 2010. Also where the back quarter panel meets the back bumper, thats been done. Then had the 3rd brake light done in Feb 2011. Now it has to go back in, for more rust in the wheel wells. And one of the A pillars is bubbling under the back tape.

I`m still under warranty but it`s up in Aug/11.

[arnold22]

After a long winter I did a good wash on my 2009 Mazda3 this pass weekend and notice and signs of rusting starting on the rear wheel wells like most of you. The only thing which bugs me is I got the car on November 12, 2009 and only has 23,3xxkm on it. I did not expect to see any rust for at least 5 years. I have contact my local Mazda dealer but haven't heard back yet but I will never buy another Mazda.

My POS 1995 Saturn with around 100,00km did not have any rust when I sold it back in 2005. My dad's 2005 Subaru Legacy has not rust and has well over 120,000KM on it. Even if Mazda fixes the rust under warranty, I am now guaranty I will have rust bucket a few years from now.

[ismail_alikhan]

Shu....its 6 years only on surface rust from what the Avante Mazda has told me....anything inside the wheel wells is not covered.......

[ldewolff]

HI, I realise this is an old post but I am currently having rust issues on my Mazda 3 and am curious as to if anyone got their car fixed by Mazda??? I have a 2005 Mazda 3 (base model GX?) currenlty 128,000 km, spent most of my time in Vancouver but with almost one year in NB/ON. I have rust in both the rear wheel wells including blistering where the metal hits the bumber at the wheel. I also have any rock chips covering the car which are rusting, I understand rock chips are normal but rust? My car may not be new but it sure isn't old, I was told by Mazda Canada I am not covered and told by my local dealership that the rust is "normal"? I call BS. Anyone with adivce is much appreciated. Thx. Was quoted $800 just to fix the 2 wheel wells.
Laura

[cwp_sedan]

Shu....its 6 years only on surface rust from what the Avante Mazda has told me....anything inside the wheel wells is not covered.......

Surface/perforation rust should be the exact same thing warranty wise. I know people who have been in their 6th year and got it repaired.


HI, I realise this is an old post but I am currently having rust issues on my Mazda 3 and am curious as to if anyone got their car fixed by Mazda??? I have a 2005 Mazda 3 (base model GX?) currenlty 128,000 km, spent most of my time in Vancouver but with almost one year in NB/ON. I have rust in both the rear wheel wells including blistering where the metal hits the bumber at the wheel. I also have any rock chips covering the car which are rusting, I understand rock chips are normal but rust? My car may not be new but it sure isn't old, I was told by Mazda Canada I am not covered and told by my local dealership that the rust is "normal"? I call BS. Anyone with adivce is much appreciated. Thx. Was quoted $800 just to fix the 2 wheel wells.
Laura

The rust in the wheel wells, b-billars, 3rd brake light area and any other ares that are rusting on their own should be covered by Mazda. They may still give you a hard time but typically they are covered. There is up to approx 6 years of coverage for the rust damage so if you have missed that window you may not be able to get it fixed out of Mazda's pocket. If you get a good dealership that will ACTUALLY look after you, they may be able to help you out.

Stone chips definitely are not. Anything rusting caused by a scratch, rock chip, dent, etc is your responsibility.

[ismail_alikhan]

Nice...thanks for the clarification...will discuss with them when I go in.....

I have gone to the bodyshop had the photos taken last week....will c what happens in a few weeks.

[Battl3hamm3r]

HI, I realise this is an old post but I am currently having rust issues on my Mazda 3 and am curious as to if anyone got their car fixed by Mazda??? I have a 2005 Mazda 3 (base model GX?) currenlty 128,000 km, spent most of my time in Vancouver but with almost one year in NB/ON. I have rust in both the rear wheel wells including blistering where the metal hits the bumber at the wheel. I also have any rock chips covering the car which are rusting, I understand rock chips are normal but rust? My car may not be new but it sure isn't old, I was told by Mazda Canada I am not covered and told by my local dealership that the rust is "normal"? I call BS. Anyone with adivce is much appreciated. Thx. Was quoted $800 just to fix the 2 wheel wells.
Laura

If Mazda Canada said now, there aint much you can do :(

I had rust above the wheels like you and on 3 doors, I was out of warranty by a year but I managed to convince Mazda Canada and a local dealer to repair everything for free... I wrote them a nice long email saying how ugly this looks and its very bad publicity because I used to do a lot of highway and it was easy to notice !

1 month later I get a call saying they approved. It was a 3000$ job, the dealer actually showed me the bill he was sending to Mazda Canada !!!

Find a dealer, ask to speak with the manager, show him the rust then try again with Mazda referring that guys name and location

Good luck

[ldewolff]

Thank-you for the responses, going to try a different dealership to see if I get better service!

[Pyro]

Found some rust in my inner wheel well today....its not bad but I know it wasn't there a year ago
What dealership would you guys recommend to get it fixed the best way?

I went to agincourt for my oil changes, but based on mzkaye729 experience i guess thats not the best place to get things done.
I'm tempted to try Markham Mazda just because its close lol

[mf5781]

My car is 7 years old and had rust repair by the dealer 2 years ago on the rear wheel well. Now rust comes back on the same spot. Did any one claim rust repair after 7 years and succeed?

[mzkaye729]

My car is 7 years old and had rust repair by the dealer 2 years ago on the rear wheel well. Now rust comes back on the same spot. Did any one claim rust repair after 7 years and succeed?

I had a similar experience except mine is a 2005 so a 6 yr old car. I got the rust repaired last year and the rust came back even worse. MUCH MUCH WORSE.

After talking to Agincourt Mazda, they said they don't warranty their rust repairs so I'm out of luck.

Let me know if you find some sort of resolution as I have had no luck with Agincourt.

[rzapata]

I had a similar experience except mine is a 2005 so a 6 yr old car. I got the rust repaired last year and the rust came back even worse. MUCH MUCH WORSE.

After talking to Agincourt Mazda, they said they don't warranty their rust repairs so I'm out of luck.

Let me know if you find some sort of resolution as I have had no luck with Agincourt.

I'll be sending Mazda Canada a nice email about mine as well.. It's getting worst every single day and I saw a crack on the inside of one of the rear wheel wells.. Scarboro Mazda did not really want to do anything about mine.. I spoke to a guy there about it and he just told me that since the car's actually made in 2004, warranty is expired and they will not fix it. I may have just spoken with the wrong guy...

This is really depressing and frustrating at the same time..

[mzkaye729]

I'll be sending Mazda Canada a nice email about mine as well.. It's getting worst every single day and I saw a crack on the inside of one of the rear wheel wells.. Scarboro Mazda did not really want to do anything about mine.. I spoke to a guy there about it and he just told me that since the car's actually made in 2004, warranty is expired and they will not fix it. I may have just spoken with the wrong guy...

This is really depressing and frustrating at the same time..

I wish I had as much patience as you to even bother writing an email. I pretty much gave up already.

The rust bubbles are ridiculously huge and the paint has turned orange in the third brake light area and the wheel wells and bumper seams look like it has some sort of a skin infection on it. Ridiculous.

Do let us know if anything happens with Mazda Canada and your email. I MAY reconsider if you have luck with your approach !

[rzapata]

I wish I had as much patience as you to even bother writing an email. I pretty much gave up already.

The rust bubbles are ridiculously huge and the paint has turned orange in the third brake light area and the wheel wells and bumper seams look like it has some sort of a skin infection on it. Ridiculous.

Do let us know if anything happens with Mazda Canada and your email. I MAY reconsider if you have luck with your approach !

Ok, just sent them a very heartfelt email about how much I love my car and blah blah.. :) (true though)

Hopefully I get something.... (fingers crossed)

[mf5781]

I'll be sending Mazda Canada a nice email about mine as well.. It's getting worst every single day and I saw a crack on the inside of one of the rear wheel wells.. Scarboro Mazda did not really want to do anything about mine.. I spoke to a guy there about it and he just told me that since the car's actually made in 2004, warranty is expired and they will not fix it. I may have just spoken with the wrong guy...

I am not optimistic about getting any result with Mazda Canada and dealers. That's why unless there's other people can get warranty after 7 years, I would not spend more time on this.

The service manager, Stephen and Jimmy of Scarboro Mazda are from Markham Mazda. Based on my experience with them in Markham Mazda, I would avoid them. So bad I don't know where to go now.

[mf5781]

For 2004 & 05 models, you can go to this post http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?53218-2004-2004-Mazda-3-corrosion-problems&highlight=2004+rust
and file the APA compliant form.

[rzapata]

I am not optimistic about getting any result with Mazda Canada and dealers. That's why unless there's other people can get warranty after 7 years, I would not spend more time on this.

The service manager, Stephen and Jimmy of Scarboro Mazda are from Markham Mazda. Based on my experience with them in Markham Mazda, I would avoid them. So bad I don't know where to go now.

You were right.. Mazda Canada sent me a nice generic email with no empathy or whatsoever.. They told me to go to the nearest dealer basically... I hate this.. I really don't want to spend a lot of money with the repairs when I could have spent them on mods instead. Anyway, I'll keep looking for ways to save on repairs..

[yuro]

My car is 7 years old as well... and rust was repaired on rear wheel wells and doors about 2 years ago by MoT... the rust came back within a year... I did fill out APA complain form and e-mailed Mazda Canada (didn't even hear back from them), but don't really think it will go anywhere

I think the only way we can do something about this problem is not to buy Mazda again. I have a friend who had Mazda 3 and went with Toyota Venza instead of CX7 or CX9. I have another friend who has Mazda 3 and because of rust issues he's looking at other manufactures.

I still have my 3 and I like it.... hopefully I can get another couple of years out of it and then...

[Bean]

We now have a 1998 Corolla with ZERO rust. I do miss the Mazda and the luxuries that came with it,. but I do not miss the Rust.

[mazdabetty]

Success!!!! I just got the news, Mazda Canada approved new rear quarter panels and a paint job on my rusty old trunk lid!!! SWEET! HOPING for a new trunk lid altogether provided there is more perforation than they thought, cuz it's looking pretty nasty, but I'm more than satisfied and not gonna push it any more than I already have.

I'm pretty excited. It's a bit sad that I had to go to certain lengths to get them to hear me out, but I'm still ecstatic nonetheless. Fingers crossed the body shop does a great job. :D

[mzkaye729]

Success!!!! I just got the news, Mazda Canada approved new rear quarter panels and a paint job on my rusty old trunk lid!!! SWEET! HOPING for a new trunk lid altogether provided there is more perforation than they thought, cuz it's looking pretty nasty, but I'm more than satisfied and not gonna push it any more than I already have.

I'm pretty excited. It's a bit sad that I had to go to certain lengths to get them to hear me out, but I'm still ecstatic nonetheless. Fingers crossed the body shop does a great job. :D

Ashley, that's good to hear !!! glad you're getting this resolved.

If maybe the kilometers on my car were (a lot !!) lower, I'd bother going through Mazda Canada as the rust is even more ridiculous now than before it was "repaired".

[mazdabetty]

Oh HI!! Where have you been!!! I miss u around here :)

That sucks... it always seems like once it gets repaired it comes back x10 no matter how much you maintain it :(

[alwalsh]

Wow!

Hi, I'm new here. I also have a rusty Mazda ; 2005 Mazda 3 I bought from the downtown dealership just 9 months ago.
Before purchasing I insisted the rust on the rear wheel well be repaired. It was.
9 months later (and the car was in an underground parking lot all winter), the rust is back.
I purchased "full rust protection" thinking it would cover me in case it came back. Apparently that is worthless ! (Doesn't cover surface rust is what i was told by the dealership!?!? WTF?)
It's been over a month now, and I still haven't heard back from the dealer about whether they are going to fix it or not.
This is unacceptable! And there seems to be many victims out there. I'm filling out that APA complaint ASAP!
Lets band together here and make sure these concerns are addressed and remedied!

[S.F.W.]

Wow!

Hi, I'm new here. I also have a rusty Mazda ; 2005 Mazda 3 I bought from the downtown dealership just 9 months ago.
Before purchasing I insisted the rust on the rear wheel well be repaired. It was.
9 months later (and the car was in an underground parking lot all winter), the rust is back.
I purchased "full rust protection" thinking it would cover me in case it came back. Apparently that is worthless ! (Doesn't cover surface rust is what i was told by the dealership!?!? WTF?)
It's been over a month now, and I still haven't heard back from the dealer about whether they are going to fix it or not.
This is unacceptable! And there seems to be many victims out there. I'm filling out that APA complaint ASAP!
Lets band together here and make sure these concerns are addressed and remedied!
2005 is likely still covered by Mazda Canada...go to a different dealer.

[arnold22]

The only way to permanently fix rust is to remove the section that is rusted and replace it with a new piece. All the dealership are doing at best is sanding off the rust and repainting. The oxidization process has already begun and is still in the metal even after sanding off all the rust.

I already know my rust will come back again and I will keep going to the dealer until the warranty is gone.

[bhadreshl]

Thats how I ot mine fixed 2x.

blahhhhhhhhhhhh

Farkin rust coming back around my third brake light. Mutha***aa..... WAY past my warranty, but it's been fixed once before so I'm wondering if the bodyshop they sent it to has this covered under their own warranty?

If not I guess I'll have to turn on the waterworks and create some drama at the dealership. *sigh* lol

[arnold22]

I got my rust issue fixed back in May 2011 under warranty and after washing my car this weekend it seems the rust has started again. They claim they "fixed" it but I have a suspicious that they quickly sanded the area and did a quick paint job. Had they at least tried to remove the existing rust, it should not have only taken a couple of months for it to return.

Hopefully I will hear back from them in the next couple of days.

[aris]

If you take your car to peterbrough Mazda.... They approved my sister inlaws rust and they took the car to a local body shop and that shop did an excellent job repairing the rust... The first time the car went in for rust repair last summer and car star in Belleville did a terrible job repairing.


I got my rust issue fixed back in May 2011 under warranty and after washing my car this weekend it seems the rust has started again. They claim they "fixed" it but I have a suspicious that they quickly sanded the area and did a quick paint job. Had they at least tried to remove the existing rust, it should not have only taken a couple of months for it to return.

Hopefully I will hear back from them in the next couple of days.

[igzy]

Here is my story: thanks to Mazda Canada I had the rust repaired twice under warranty (rear quarter panels, 3rd light, door frames). Third time it came back at quarters only, the car was outside warranty, as I was also told by Mazda Canada, but it was within 1 year of last repair so the body shop warrantied its own work and did it for free (I had to work with M-C and body shop on that one). The fourth time the rust came back was again within less than a year from the third repair and then even the body shop would not touch it unless I paid for it. So I took it to another body shop which cut out the quarters and welded on new ones. I paid for that repair, also had it Krown protected, and am hopeful that the saga will end there.

IMO, the problem with these cars is not in the paint process but in crappy metal they use. Just look at the Proteges that are out there - they are likely made from same metal, and you will get an idea what our cars are made of......

[Bean]

I wonder if the 2010 and up models are going to be better.

[igzy]

I wonder if the 2010 and up models are going to be better.

Sorry to be the bearer of the bad news: they likely used the same metal supplier as they did for previous gens. Krown protect it, wash the salt of regularly during winters and that will hopefully prevent it from rusting...

[Bean]

I dont have my car anymore. It was a 2007. Just was wondering thats all

[igzy]

Yeah, it is very unlikely that a car maker would change steel suppliers. It usually happens only when they change assembly plant location or if the steel maker goes under. Also paint process does not change often either...

We love driving our car, it handles well, good fit and finish and option package, but small problems (suspension, electrical, front bumper fit) in addition to rust at IMO low mileage/age is what will keep us from buying another Mazda again. I just lost patience in dealing with it all...

What did you end up replacing yours with?

[DumpInfo]

Yeah, it is very unlikely that a car maker would change steel suppliers. It usually happens only when they change assembly plant location or if the steel maker goes under. Also paint process does not change often either...

We love driving our car, it handles well, good fit and finish and option package, but small problems (suspension, electrical, front bumper fit) in addition to rust at IMO low mileage/age is what will keep us from buying another Mazda again. I just lost patience in dealing with it all...

What did you end up replacing yours with?


We now have a 1998 Corolla with ZERO rust. I do miss the Mazda and the luxuries that came with it,. but I do not miss the Rust.

Hope that helps! :)

[Bean]

Thanks DumpInfo for posting that for me :)

The Corolla is nice but I miss the Mazda :(

[igzy]

That Corolla will serve you for a looong time, a few of my friends drove them pass 500,000 kms with only regular oil changes...

[Bean]

Thanks. Although if not for the body damage thanks to 80 plus year Mother in Law, it would be perfect :)

[igzy]

I went to Mountain Mazda last night to return the unused sway bar bushings (another weak performance by stealership - different story) and saw a girl there that just had her '05 repaired for rust for the first time (quarters and all). I had no heart to tell her the truth.........

[TheNuge]

Here's my rant before I take my leave of you.

Three years ago I bought a used 2003 Protege5 with 61000 kilometres on it. The local Mazda dealer's body shop repaired the rust around the wheel wells as a condition of the sale. A year and a half later, I dumped it at a considerable loss after I had gotten tired of chasing the rust (which had gotten so bad it had actually eaten a sizable chunk out of one of those "fixed" wheel wells). Having heard that Mazda had supposedly fixed the corrosion problems in 2007, I purchased a '07 3 Sport GT to replace it. There was absolutely no rust at all on this car when I bought it, and as a form of insurance I had the car rustproofed by Krown each April. A few weeks ago a co-worker mentioned to me that she had to have one of the wheel wells on her 2008 3 sedan fixed as it was starting to bubble so I checked my own car. Lo and behold, I noticed the tell-tale bubbles beginning to appear in one of the rear wheel wells. I called same the local Mazda dealer and was given the option to bring the car in to be looked at for possible warranty coverage repair. Due to my past experience, I opted put it up for sale and managed to sell it for slightly more than I owed on it.

Once the rust starts - and it will - it will not stop. My next-door neighbour has a 2005 3 sedan with 63000 kilometres on it and I see him fixing rust over the wheel wells every few weeks. And according to him, the suspension and exhaust are all basically rusted out as well.

For me, that's two Mazdas bought and sold in the span of three years due to corrosion issues. I've owned 4 Mazdas in my time, and that was the last one. They're f--king garbage. EVERY SINGLE Protege5 has rust in EXACTLY the same places. I would estimate that at least 70% of the first-generation 3s I see on the road have rust in similar places, and the other 30% are just now approaching the age where they'll rust too. I (very) briefly considered a 2008 Tribute with _12000_ kilometres on it to replace the 3. THAT HAS RUST IN THE WHEEL WELL TOO.

F--K YOU, MAZDA. GOOD RIDDANCE.

End of rant.

Good luck to everyone on this forum. I hope you have better luck than I.

[Bean]

I saw a 2010 early model 3 today, and it HAD RUST on the wheel well

[Enji]

2007 GT Mazda 3, Had the car sprayed when I bought it, didn't realize Mazda did not even bother to inspect for rust.

Sigh rusting on back wheel wells, always taken my car to mazda for service, they are telling me they are not responsible at all. I find that a bit funny since i do all service there..and if they noticed a speck of rust they would notify me, but they rather try to make me buy new roters, and replace my tranny oil at 38k...bleh

[aris]

2007 GT Mazda 3, Had the car sprayed when I bought it, didn't realize Mazda did not even bother to inspect for rust.

Sigh rusting on back wheel wells, always taken my car to mazda for service, they are telling me they are not responsible at all. I find that a bit funny since i do all service there..and if they noticed a speck of rust they would notify me, but they rather try to make me buy new roters, and replace my tranny oil at 38k...bleh


It should be covered under mazda warranty

[Enji]

They say it isn't, I went to agro Mazda, and they only told me when I called to inquire. What should I write or say? they told me to take a look at the place where I bought the car Ie Markham Mazda

[aris]

They say it isn't, I went to agro Mazda, and they only told me when I called to inquire. What should I write or say? they told me to take a look at the place where I bought the car Ie Markham Mazda

If your car is under 5 years old then yes it should be covered... If it's over 5 years old then it's not covered

[Enji]

it's funny they said it's "not perforated enough yet" :P

[aris]

it's funny they said it's "not perforated enough yet" :P

That a load of crap... Bay Mazda in Belleville told my sister in law the samething... They were in Peterborough one day and stoped in the dealer their and they snapped pictures and 2 weeks later she got the call to bring it to get repaired.

Just go to a different dealer

[Enji]

will try markham mazda..where I bought the car...lol.. but ty Aris. I just hope i can get some work done on it before the snow :)

[mazda72]

I guess i was very lucky with my Protege5, i just had a little bit of rust in the wheel well area which i removed by sanding it down and repainting the spots. The car didnt have any rust on it when i traded it in at 169k km.

Almost all Proteges I see have considerable rust in the back, shame cos its such a good car. Mazda should have improved on this issue with the Mazda3.

One thing I highly recommend doing is to a occasionally spray some anti rust solution in the areas that are prone to rust ie: wheel wells etc. Ive been using Corrosion3000 bought at Canadian Tire and it works like a charm.

And always rustproof your car, it will help tremendously.

[zmz3]

the 2010 models should have improved the rust issue, especially in the rear whell well... I was looking at one the other day and I noticed a soft layer of paint in the area where the rust starts developing... I hope they did fix it... only time will tell...

my 2007 mazda 3 only has a finger nail sized bubbling on roof due to a 'stone chip' but I dont beleive that non-sense... other cars didnt show much of rust on roof after many years of highway driving...

Could it be because the car is japanese and it is built and made there without any canadian winter care thought or extra paint to assume for those salty roads... especially when doing high speeds and salt hits againts the rear wheel well...?

I mean... has anyone heard any issues about rusting from Mazda3s in countries without snow/salt ... I wonder...

Also.. I have seen 2004 models with high mileage without rust anywhere... so I am not sure what this variance means... I asked the owner and he does use it in winter... there seems to be a trick... maybe...

[Kaptain Sloth]

If your car is under 5 years old then yes it should be covered... If it's over 5 years old then it's not covered

You sure it's 5 years? I thought it was 6. If it's 5 then I def need to bring mine to the dealer before spring or I'm SOL, lol.

[cwp_sedan]

It should only be 5. Mazda extended it to 6 for some of the older 04-06 models. Unless the rust becomes a problem for all, or at least most of the 07-09, I highly doubt they will offer the extended perforation warranty to them.

[Kaptain Sloth]

It should only be 5. Mazda extended it to 6 for some of the older 04-06 models. Unless the rust becomes a problem for all, or at least most of the 07-09, I highly doubt they will offer the extended perforation warranty to them.

Good to know. Thanks! I'll definetly be bringing the rust to their attention when I'm there for service next month.

[thanu31]

So i got some rust work done on one wheel well about a year ago, and its starting to come back in the same spot again. Rest of the car is spot less :S

Anyways, how does the warranty work now? Because i am over my 5 year period...
I went to agincourt,(where i got it done), to ask, and the body shop manager gave me some BS.

First off told me since im over 100k im on my own, then started to say there are no holes on your car, so i cant do anything.....:S

Didnt bother talking to him anymore. So do you guys know if I have a chance of being covered again?

[aris]

Have you tried another dealer?

So i got some rust work done on one wheel well about a year ago, and its starting to come back in the same spot again. Rest of the car is spot less :S

Anyways, how does the warranty work now? Because i am over my 5 year period...
I went to agincourt,(where i got it done), to ask, and the body shop manager gave me some BS.

First off told me since im over 100k im on my own, then started to say there are no holes on your car, so i cant do anything.....:S

Didnt bother talking to him anymore. So do you guys know if I have a chance of being covered again?

[thanu31]

Have you tried another dealer?

Spoke with mazda canada, they told me to stick to Agincourt since thats where I first got the repair. They took down the name of the body shop manager, the person on the phone seemed to be surprised to hear what the body shop manager told me.

The guy for some reason couldnt pull up my original bill for the rust repair. But he asked me to email him a copy of the invoice, to further help as he was not sure of the coverage too


Edit:
Just saw your response on the feedback thread, I guess I will try another dealer. But does it matter that I am out of my 5 year period now?

[S.F.W.]

Spoke with mazda canada, they told me to stick to Agincourt since thats where I first got the repair. They took down the name of the body shop manager, the person on the phone seemed to be surprised to hear what the body shop manager told me.

The guy for some reason couldnt pull up my original bill for the rust repair. But he asked me to email him a copy of the invoice, to further help as he was not sure of the coverage too


Edit:
Just saw your response on the feedback thread, I guess I will try another dealer. But does it matter that I am out of my 5 year period now?

Because you are out of the 5 year warranty, I think you will need to stick to Agincourt, as they basically need to warranty the original repair.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Ya you have to deal with the shop via their warranty on the work and not Mazda.

The Oakville Honda shop (they do erin mills mazda) knows me by name now lol

[thanu31]

ooh okay, thanks
do you know if there is a certain period of time that they warranty their work for?

[zmz3]

2007 Mazda 3 GX - Bought used at 74,000 km. (manufactured Feb 2007)

Slight rust started to show at wheel wells, sent in for approval - Mazda approved and both will be repaired at Budds' Collision (high quality work from looks of it).

Current mileage is 128,000km.

I think I was in my last few days before rust warranty ran out.

[Thrizzl3]

congrats omar that is great news! When does it go in and are they giving you a rental car?

[zmz3]

congrats omar that is great news! When does it go in and are they giving you a rental car?

Hey Phil!

Thanks buddy :) I am pretty happy about the result of this and surprised that Mazda approved rather quickly... kudos to them.

I get a loaner car for $20 a day from Budds' Mazda (courtesy of John Boot) I asked for it to be a Mazda3 and he said he can do that :)

Job will take 4-5 days ($80-100 in rental fees) ... kinda surprised Mazda doesn't cover, but I am happy they approved rust

Kudos to John, Budds' and Mazda !

Car goes in for repair Monday Mar 5th

[aris]

2007 Mazda 3 GX - Bought used at 74,000 km. (manufactured Feb 2007)

Slight rust started to show at wheel wells, sent in for approval - Mazda approved and both will be repaired at Budds' Collision (high quality work from looks of it).

Current mileage is 128,000km.

I think I was in my last few days before rust warranty ran out.
I hate to burst your bubble but unless their going to cut the affected metal out and replace it it will be back.... GUARANTIED!!!!

[jonjon72]

Hey Phil!

Thanks buddy :) I am pretty happy about the result of this and surprised that Mazda approved rather quickly... kudos to them.

I get a loaner car for $20 a day from Budds' Mazda (courtesy of John Boot) I asked for it to be a Mazda3 and he said he can do that :)

Job will take 4-5 days ($80-100 in rental fees) ... kinda surprised Mazda doesn't cover, but I am happy they approved rust

Kudos to John, Budds' and Mazda !

Car goes in for repair Monday Mar 5th

If you have an extended warranty, the rental should be covered. When my car went in at Agincourt, they arranged the rental/loaner

[zmz3]

I hate to burst your bubble but unless their going to cut the affected metal out and replace it it will be back.... GUARANTIED!!!!

Cutting the metal has its downsides as well. The areas of welding will start to rust out.

And if it rusts after, then I will see what Budds' will have to say about their work.

[zmz3]

If you have an extended warranty, the rental should be covered. When my car went in at Agincourt, they arranged the rental/loaner

No extended warranty. Rental thus is not covered, although, $20 a day isn't too bad... $15 would be nicer :P

[Mel77]

HI Lynn
I know I am super late...seeing your post was made in 2008. However, I was wondering if you've won your case. I have only been informed this year that mazda are reparing the corrosion problem on 2004 model Mazda 3. I have called my dealership here in Miramichi, NB and there answer was NO...then I called customer service 1-800-263-4680 where I aslo got a NO for answer. There explanation was that I bought my car 2 months too early. STUPID!!! YES!!! And as I was readeing your tread, you say that you bought your car June 30th....I bought my car July 2nd.
I don't know if you are still fighting your case but I am sending you my information. I am so hoping that you are still responding to this tread :-)


Name: Melanie C. CHiasson
City/province:Tracadie-Sheila, New-Brunswick
Year of car: 2004
Model: Mazda 3 GS
Color: Indigo Mica Blue
Current Mileage: 184000
Corrosion damage: 4 fenders, trunk, under doors, more

thank you...hope to hear from you soon :-)
Mel

[Mel77]

ok...so I read more tread...
How do I go about to send pictures to Mazda Canada so they can see the perforation in my rear fenders???
I read that lots of you got the approval from Mazda Canada...How do I do that???

thank you for your help...I am really desperate here :-S

[S.F.W.]

ok...so I read more tread...
How do I go about to send pictures to Mazda Canada so they can see the perforation in my rear fenders???
I read that lots of you got the approval from Mazda Canada...How do I do that???

thank you for your help...I am really desperate here :-S

You have a 2004, so it is going to be difficult. That said, you need to go see your local dealer, or if you have been servicing with one dealer, go there. Speak to the service advisor, or service manager.

[Mel77]

You have a 2004, so it is going to be difficult. That said, you need to go see your local dealer, or if you have been servicing with one dealer, go there. Speak to the service advisor, or service manager.

thank you

I have spoken to my dealership and the answer is NO...apparently I bought my car 2 months too early...how is that???
I bought my car in July 2004 and the approval to fix the 2004 model went out in september...or so!!!

I think it's a bunch of Crap from his part, I don't know why he does not want to fix mine... :(

[Booter22]

thank you

I have spoken to my dealership and the answer is NO...apparently I bought my car 2 months too early...how is that???
I bought my car in July 2004 and the approval to fix the 2004 model went out in september...or so!!!

I think it's a bunch of Crap from his part, I don't know why he does not want to fix mine... :(

to be honest in any event your warranty has expired long ago. even if they send pictures it would come back declined warranty expired. if they send it to the dealer rep it would be declined. the car is 8 years old and give or take. the warranty extension was only for 6 years. so sadly its 2 years too late :( not trying to be rude in any means i just have done enough of these to know. it wont be approved, find a body shop that will give you a fair price for repairs.

[Mel77]

to be honest in any event your warranty has expired long ago. even if they send pictures it would come back declined warranty expired. if they send it to the dealer rep it would be declined. the car is 8 years old and give or take. the warranty extension was only for 6 years. so sadly its 2 years too late :( not trying to be rude in any means i just have done enough of these to know. it wont be approved, find a body shop that will give you a fair price for repairs.


I see what you mean...too bad my dealership wasn't honest enough to let there clients know about this. :-( Even when you go in and ask about this problem. I have stumbled on this forum by pure accident. Imagine, if it wasn't for this I would have never know. Maybe it would of been better that way....Now I'm just farking pissed to know that something could of been done.
Thanks

[Booter22]

I see what you mean...too bad my dealership wasn't honest enough to let there clients know about this. :-( Even when you go in and ask about this problem. I have stumbled on this forum by pure accident. Imagine, if it wasn't for this I would have never know. Maybe it would of been better that way....Now I'm just farking pissed to know that something could of been done.
Thanks

in the defence of the dealerships, i dont believe there was information sent out to customers about the warranty extension (however that was before my time with mazda) that being said there was information sent for the mp26 corrosion prevention sent to those that did apply but that was for late production 2005 -2008 ( best i remember). mind you if you didnt have a problem with corrosion when the vehicle was covered they wouldnt have repaired anything so as of course if the repair was completed after in the last 2 years which would have been after the 1 year extension i wouldnt suspect it to have been covered under warranty.

like i mentioned have it inspected with a trusted body shop for a quoted repair.

[sameerkhan]

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Name: Sameer Khan
City/province: Brampton Ontario
Year of car: 2006
Model: Mazda 3 GT
Color: Dark Grey
Current Mileage:112,000 Km
Corrosion damage: Rear panels aboove wheels both sides. & Trunk under the rear light.

Please guys if anyone can help me out, that would be wonderful. this is my very first car i ever bough & i love this car. & dont want to end up selling it or driving it with such a shitty look on its back.

[vertigo]

Ugh. I've got a March 2005 manufactured hatch and the paint is popping off due to the rust spreading beneath it. It looks so terrible. I thought at first it was just on the exterior, but I had a quick look today inside the wheelwell itself - and holy hell, what a mess of rust that is.

There's absolutely zero chance of getting Mazda to fix this, judging by the replies in this thread?

[vertigo]

Also for those of you who have gotten quotes from body shops to fix it, what have the prices been like and for one or both fenders?

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Budget about 1500 more if you want all the metal cut out which is really the best way to have it fixed.

[vertigo]

Budget about 1500 more if you want all the metal cut out which is really the best way to have it fixed.

So not worth it on an '05 with 135,000km :) I'll let it rot out and it'll become my winter beater.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Worth depends on you really :P

[taz4432]

It should only be 5. Mazda extended it to 6 for some of the older 04-06 models. Unless the rust becomes a problem for all, or at least most of the 07-09, I highly doubt they will offer the extended perforation warranty to them.

I've got an '06 Sport GT. Was doing a closer inspection today and noticed a TON of rust forming all over (all wheel wells, bottom of most doors, window frame on some of the doors starting to bubble, etc.). Will I still be covered?

[aris]

I've got an '06 Sport GT. Was doing a closer inspection today and noticed a TON of rust forming all over (all wheel wells, bottom of most doors, window frame on some of the doors starting to bubble, etc.). Will I still be covered?
I'm pretty sure you are shit out of luck. Saying that it still doesn't hurt to try

[Dave_The_BMXER]

^ basically.

[Impressive]

My '06 isn't covered anymore...but that doesn't guarantee that yours won't be either. Give it a shot and see what happens. Good luck.

[peterm15]

Sorry guys. I don't have time to read like 800 pages of this stuff. Lol although I did scan a fee dozen or so.

My car was built in OCT of 06.
Rust is forming in the corner of the brake lights and the bottom of the third brake light. No perforation, just surface. I believe the warranty would run until oct of 2012, if someone can confirm that.

Worth a shot or no. And which dealer is my best bet to go to. I also assume that I would have to make an apt first?

Thanks guys.

[aris]

Sorry guys. I don't have time to read like 800 pages of this stuff. Lol although I did scan a fee dozen or so.

My car was built in OCT of 06.
Rust is forming in the corner of the brake lights and the bottom of the third brake light. No perforation, just surface. I believe the warranty would run until oct of 2012, if someone can confirm that.

Worth a shot or no. And which dealer is my best bet to go to. I also assume that I would have to make an apt first?

Thanks guys.
The warranty starts the day the car is sold not built. So you would need to find out when your car was sold.. Dealership will have to confirm the date the car was purchased.

[TheAnswer_03]

Just noticed some bubbling in my rear well passenger side. Bought the car used May 2011 as the car was a previous lease, would the 5 year warranty start from the day the car was originally leased or when I bought it? (I still have my CarProof report somewhere.)

How much would it cost to properly repair?
How quickly will this type of rust spread and how much time do I have before it's out of hand?

I keep reading posts where body work was done only to have the rust re-appear again; is completely removing the metal the best option?

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/TheAnswer_03_2006/vita/2012-05-15-150057.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/TheAnswer_03_2006/vita/2012-05-15-150330-1.jpg

[aris]

The day the car was leased^^

So as long as it's under 5 years (the day it was leased) then it should be covered under warranty

Best thing to do is take your car to a Mazda dealer ship and have them look it up for you

[TheAnswer_03]

The day the car was leased^^

So as long as it's under 5 years (the day it was leased) then it should be covered under warranty

Best thing to do is take your car to a Mazda dealer ship and have them look it up for you

Thanks, I found my CarProof report and my 3 was leased August 2007. Is the warranty work something my local Mazda dealer can deny like saying the rust isn't severe enough or something like that. I'd like to show them this warranty in writing if they try to avoid the repair.

[aris]

Thanks, I found my CarProof report and my 3 was leased August 2007. Is the warranty work something my local Mazda dealer can deny like saying the rust isn't severe enough or something like that. I'd like to show them this warranty in writing if they try to avoid the repair.

Take it to dealer it's covered...

Which dealer ship do you normally deal with??

[Booter22]

Thanks, I found my CarProof report and my 3 was leased August 2007. Is the warranty work something my local Mazda dealer can deny like saying the rust isn't severe enough or something like that. I'd like to show them this warranty in writing if they try to avoid the repair.

send me your vin and i will tell you the warranty start date and if it should be covered to save you a trip to the dealer.

[TheAnswer_03]

send me your vin and i will tell you the warranty start date and if it should be covered to save you a trip to the dealer.

Got your PM, thanks for the info. Sent my car to Mazda this afternoon, they were very nice about it, advised me to drive to their body shop for pictures to be taken. Gentleman at the body shop advised that the rust would come back eventually as the rear wheel well (that leads down into the side skirt) is formed by 2 pieces of metal coming together (which I can verify and feel with my fingers) and sanding it down cannot get deep enough (or something along those lines). I asked if they can cut the metal and weld new one in, he said they couldn't. He recommended to do the sanding and repaint and then have it rust proofed (Krown for example) to slow down the rusting.

Does this sound like the best option?

Thanks aris too for your info.

This pic just shows where the rust is located (not my car in the pic).

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/TheAnswer_03_2006/vita/20101115-120353.jpg

[Booter22]

Got your PM, thanks for the info. Sent my car to Mazda this afternoon, they were very nice about it, advised me to drive to their body shop for pictures to be taken. Gentleman at the body shop advised that the rust would come back eventually as the rear wheel well (that leads down into the side skirt) is formed by 2 pieces of metal coming together (which I can verify and feel with my fingers) and sanding it down cannot get deep enough (or something along those lines). I asked if they can cut the metal and weld new one in, he said they couldn't. He recommended to do the sanding and repaint and then have it rust proofed (Krown for example) to slow down the rusting.

Does this sound like the best option?

Thanks aris too for your info.

This pic just shows where the rust is located (not my car in the pic).

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/TheAnswer_03_2006/vita/20101115-120353.jpg

ask the dealer about this part number and have them add the replacement to the claim with proper time from the body shop. this is from the perforation process ( which the dealer would have ) and part number for them:

Price was about $192.02 Each
Right side: BNYF-70-411
Left side: BNYF-71-411

[aris]

Theanswer_03 my sister in law's 08 has rust in the same spot as yours. Her car has gone in 2 times for rust repair and it's going back in this year (waiting to hear from Mazda). Her car has being rust proofed (krowned since new) and it still came back.

2 different body shops repaired her car and it's going to a different one this time and they all said the samething... The metal needs to be replaced to fix the issue but Mazda will not pay.

[aris]

ask the dealer about this part number and have them add the replacement to the claim with proper time from the body shop. this is from the perforation process ( which the dealer would have ) and part number for them:

Price was about $192.02 Each
Right side: BNYF-70-411
Left side: BNYF-71-411
If you don't mind me asking what is this for??

[TheAnswer_03]

Theanswer_03 my sister in law's 08 has rust in the same spot as yours. Her car has gone in 2 times for rust repair and it's going back in this year (waiting to hear from Mazda). Her car has being rust proofed (krowned since new) and it still came back.

2 different body shops repaired her car and it's going to a different one this time and they all said the samething... The metal needs to be replaced to fix the issue but Mazda will not pay.

what should I do? :(

Would getting the car Krowned after the body work at least slow down the inevitable? How long did it take for her rust to come back?

Booter22, the claim has already been submitted.

EDIT:


Hey Phil!

Thanks buddy :) I am pretty happy about the result of this and surprised that Mazda approved rather quickly... kudos to them.

I get a loaner car for $20 a day from Budds' Mazda (courtesy of John Boot) I asked for it to be a Mazda3 and he said he can do that :)

Job will take 4-5 days ($80-100 in rental fees) ... kinda surprised Mazda doesn't cover, but I am happy they approved rust

Kudos to John, Budds' and Mazda !

Car goes in for repair Monday Mar 5th

So far so good on the body work?

[aris]

^^ her car got repaired in the summer of 2010 and after winter it was back. Summer of 2011 it got repaired again and after the winter it was back. This summer it's going back once Mazda approves the work.

It really sucks for them cause their 2008 Mazda has 210,000km and it's being a great car with no issues other then rust.

Your rust issues will back after winter, if I were you I would sell your car once it gets fixed and buy something else cause this will not be the last time you deal with rust if you can afford to.

[Flagrum_3]

Well if Mazda does not approve new panels, then your going to have to settle with a sand and paint. But that said, if the body shop were good they would realize the issue (which it seems they do from thier statement of two panels meeting) they would cure the rust with an acid base before repairing it. Then you should have it Krowned, but when you do, point out the issue to them and ask them to pay particular attention to the area when spraying. The problem here is with two panels pressed together and not sealed properly or at all, moisture is getting in between and 'settling', causing the premature corrosion. Getting oil in between these two panels will definately slow down the rusting if it is done right. You could also purchase a can of T40 from Krown and periodically spray into the crevice which should push out any moisture and leave a film of oil to protect it.....just a suggestion.

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[Booter22]

ask them if they can add the replacements to the quote and send it back in to have it approved.

Aris, those are the replacemenet rear 1/4 panel part numbers

[TheAnswer_03]

aris, this is the first car I've ever bought and it hasn't even been a year yet (purchased May 27 2011), I just recently spent $787 on getting the front and rear brake pads and rotors replaced followed by a brake fluid flush over the weekend and discover this rust hours afterwards on that same day; I've put too much money into maintenance and sweat into this thing.

Before buying the car, my dad recommended to take the money I bought on the used 3 and use it as a down payment for a brand-new (at the time) 2011 Mazda 3 GX and finance the rest 0%. I should I have listened. I thought I'd save money going used, boy was I wrong. Like the saying goes "The cheap man always pays more in the end."

Flagrum_3, I've heard mixed reviews on Krown, from oil dripping for weeks to having the rubber parts of the car affected. I think the Krown can could work for me as I'm only concerned about the wheel wells and to a lesser extent, the trunk. Dumb question: the metal is formed by 2 pieces together, how can I get the spray in there? Could I try to separate the 2 pieces of metal a bit so I can spray inside? Even if the spray doesn't work, it's only $9.95 for the can and I won't have holes drilled in my car.

Booter22, I highly doubt they'll do anything beyond a simple sand and re-paint. The rust area is so tiny, it took me months to even notice it. It could've been there before I bought the car for all I know. If I had brought my car in many times for rust or if I had severe rust, they would probably act differently.

I've learned to be much more careful and thorough regards buying a used car now. My family's 2001 Toyota Corolla took 10 years for rust to form without rust proofing.

[Flagrum_3]

aris, this is the first car I've ever bought and it hasn't even been a year yet (purchased May 27 2011), I just recently spent $787 on getting the front and rear brake pads and rotors replaced followed by a brake fluid flush over the weekend and discover this rust hours afterwards on that same day; I've put too much money into maintenance and sweat into this thing.

Before buying the car, my dad recommended to take the money I bought on the used 3 and use it as a down payment for a brand-new (at the time) 2011 Mazda 3 GX and finance the rest 0%. I should I have listened. I thought I'd save money going used, boy was I wrong. Like the saying goes "The cheap man always pays more in the end."

Flagrum_3, I've heard mixed reviews on Krown, from oil dripping for weeks to having the rubber parts of the car affected. I think the Krown can could work for me as I'm only concerned about the wheel wells and to a lesser extent, the trunk. Dumb question: the metal is formed by 2 pieces together, how can I get the spray in there? Could I try to separate the 2 pieces of metal a bit so I can spray inside? Even if the spray doesn't work, it's only $9.95 for the can and I won't have holes drilled in my car.

Booter22, I highly doubt they'll do anything beyond a simple sand and re-paint. The rust area is so tiny, it took me months to even notice it. It could've been there before I bought the car for all I know. If I had brought my car in many times for rust or if I had severe rust, they would probably act differently.

I've learned to be much more careful and thorough regards buying a used car now. My family's 2001 Toyota Corolla took 10 years for rust to form without rust proofing.

Krown will drip for awhile that can't be helped, its the price you pay for good coverage. Krown will by no means harm any rubber whatsoever there are thousands of testimonies out there on the stuff. Anyways, in your case if you want, just buy a can....Actually today I had my car up on a hoist and the rear wheels off and took a good look at where the two metal sheets join. There is a very slight gap all along where they meet, ...you should be able to spray the T40 directly into the gap. I would think doing this periodically should definately postpone the resurgence of rust.

Oh and you got ripped off on your brakes seriously, you could have got the same done by one of our sponsors for $440. Check this sight from now on before you need anything done....You'll save alot!


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[TheAnswer_03]

I reported the issue to Mazda on May 16 and have yet to hear any response on the matter. Is this normal? Why would it take over a month for a decision to be made? :(

If I don't bother with it, how long do you think it would take for the rust to become "out of control" based on the pics I've posted? A few more years at least?

[S.F.W.]

I reported the issue to Mazda on May 16 and have yet to hear any response on the matter. Is this normal? Why would it take over a month for a decision to be made? :(

If I don't bother with it, how long do you think it would take for the rust to become "out of control" based on the pics I've posted? A few more years at least?

Should not take a month. Follow up with the dealer.

[Igotduped]

You can add me to this list . Not only did I put in a claim for rust within the 6 year cut off time. Mazda dealership in sault ste marie totally lost all the documentation on purpose to cover their asses and left me out in the cold to pay for it!!! I love the car , hate these mafia dealerships that do what the hell the please . I had rust on wheel wells initially they told me its due to rock chips then they put the plastic tape and a few years later the rust comes back. After waiting a year and a half after the pictures were taken twice by the way...... now they say I didnt put the claim in before the 6 years which I did!!
I hate mazda in the sault! The worst experience ever. Now the manager tossed all my records and probably the same with head office as well.
Thanks MAZDA ! Bunch of asses!

[Igotduped]

Sorry forgot to add this info:
Name F
City Prov: Sault ste marie ontario
Model Year: Mazda 3 2006
Mileage : 45,000 km
Colour: Sand Mica
Corrosion Damage: wheel wells and around the well area with blistering and bubbling up of paint.
Some small rust around the trunk tail light and also on the rocker panels as well.

[Igotduped]

yes but in my case my warranty didnt expire. The sent the picutures into the 6th year and it took a year to get back to me after me going in every 2 weeks checking in with them. Then it was too late but why did I wait a year for. Then they seay they sent a bulletin but no they didnt send squat! I got duped by the dealership. Mazda isnt aware of this activity going on. When they check your car for anything including rust they have to document it and they say they do and then they dont . Ask for a reciept even if the work was dont for free so you can go back and provide proof. My dealeship in sault ste marie lost the records and closed the claim before I had a chance to do anything about it.

[Lolylogs]

Has anyone else had corrosion issues on a 2007 Mazda 3? When I went in to talk with the dealership (and when I called Mazda Canada) they told me that the after warranty program had only been issued for 2004-2005 (and some 2006's). The car shows rust bubbling in the exact same area (rear bumper seam).

[aris]

Has anyone else had corrosion issues on a 2007 Mazda 3? When I went in to talk with the dealership (and when I called Mazda Canada) they told me that the after warranty program had only been issued for 2004-2005 (and some 2006's). The car shows rust bubbling in the exact same area (rear bumper seam).

My sister inlaw's 08 has being in for rust repair 3 times and it needs to go back again. Hers rusted at 2 years old and her car was krowned yearly

[TheAnswer_03]

Theanswer_03 my sister in law's 08 has rust in the same spot as yours. Her car has gone in 2 times for rust repair and it's going back in this year (waiting to hear from Mazda). Her car has being rust proofed (krowned since new) and it still came back.

Doesn't Krown offer a warranty for perforation since she got the rust proof when the car was new?

[aris]

Doesn't Krown offer a warranty for perforation since she got the rust proof when the car was new?

Yes Krown offers warranty... After the car rusted and got repaired and kept coming back they stopped rust proofing the car ... Their is no point in rust proofing a car when it's all ready rusted

[adamcl83]

2004 mazda 3 s with 185,000kms rust around the rear wheel wells rear brake light and rear window frames, any chance of getting mazda to cover this since its clearly a known problem?

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Not with an 04 this late in the game.

[cwp_sedan]

Not with an 04 this late in the game.

+1

[Airman Jack]

2004 mazda 3 s with 185,000kms rust around the rear wheel wells rear brake light and rear window frames, any chance of getting mazda to cover this since its clearly a known problem?

That train left the station in 2010 when the 6 year (extended by Mazda from 5 years) rust warranty expired. I'm in the same boat, time to pony up some bucks and get it fixed.

[KidRambo]

What about a 07?

[cwp_sedan]

What about a 07?

I don't think the extended rust warranty applied to the 07 - 09 years. It doesn't hurt to ask though.

[Kiewan]

I am new to owning a Mazda 3. Its a 2008 gs with no rust. Is there any preventive measures you suggest? I had it sprayed at krown in Feb when I picked it up used.

[Stathakos]

So I tried taking my car into MOT to have it looked at because I had some rust on the passenger rear quarter panel, but inside the fender line and not actually on the outside. I noticed it when I was wiping the fenders and got this ugly brown crap coming off and alas, knew immediately that it was the cancer. Everything went handy dandy and since, my car is a 2009, I should be within the 5 year warranty coverage

Fast forward a week later.. I get this...


I viewed the response from the photos I sent to Mazda. Their reply is "The surface rust/corrosion warranty has expired on this vehicle and we do not see any perforation, therefore this ticket is denied."

So, per the Mazda warranty, the sheet metal must be perforated from corrosion to receive any coverage within the 5 year covered period.


My first reaction was wow my second was, I dun lyk mazda enymoar and third was I want the WRX now

Basically Im screwed just because the rust isn't making my fender into swiss cheese yet


My question is to you, fellow tm3ers, what now? Time for some POR15?

and this is what im talking about, for those that liked the picture books back in highschool, (excuse the lame gas cap drawing)
http://i.imgur.com/sw4dzNF.jpg

[aris]

I don't see how your 2009's warranty would expire all ready.... Your car hasn't even hit 5 years old yet has it?

kinda odd that they wouldn't cover it... Mine had soo little spots and it got covered

[Stathakos]

really? maybe I need to actually get a better picture of it to where you can actually see it, and then send it to mazda canada... ugh and I know, my car turns 5 next year!

[aris]

really? maybe I need to actually get a better picture of it to where you can actually see it, and then send it to mazda canada... ugh and I know, my car turns 5 next year!

I know the service manger at first tried to tell me that it would have to get worst before Mazda will cover it... I was only a few months away till my warranty expired... I told the service manger "your crazy if you think I'm going to let it get worst" he then told me to take it to the body shop they use to take pictures so i did and two days later I was approved... As soon as I got the car back I notice the other side had very small bubble spots and went back and got approved again.

[S.F.W.]

As I said to another member with rust issues. 1)call Mazda Canada 2)try another dealer.

With regards to MoT, the service manager at that particular dealership is difficult to deal with and not very helpful.

[loki]

2009 car likely manufactured and purchased in 2008 so it is not hard to believe the warranty is expired

like S.F.W. said try another dealership

[Stathakos]

I was thinking that.. Okay I'll try another dealer, any suggestions?

[HYPER GEAR]

Is there any more rust problems for 2011, 2012, 2013. I hope 2014 doesnt have this problem. How many ppm here will purchase another mazda product with the same rust problem with their 2005, 2006, and 2007?

[aris]

Is there any more rust problems for 2011, 2012, 2013. I hope 2014 doesnt have this problem. How many ppm here will purchase another mazda product with the same rust problem with their 2005, 2006, and 2007?

I won't buy another

[Booter22]

2009 car likely manufactured and purchased in 2008 so it is not hard to believe the warranty is expired

like S.F.W. said try another dealership

Paint is covered for 3 years from "defects" perforation is 5 years. if you send me the vin i could let you know the in service date. but it is always a good idea to take photos and send it in to mazda for review.

[Mr Wilson]

Is there any more rust problems for 2011, 2012, 2013. I hope 2014 doesnt have this problem. How many ppm here will purchase another mazda product with the same rust problem with their 2005, 2006, and 2007?

I had a P5 that rusted the day it was put together. Have had two 3's since......guess to some I'm a glutten for punishment. That said I have had zero paint/rust issues with them and would buy another without hesitation.

[Lapps]

I have a 2007 sedan and rust blisters are forming with rust showing on top of my car, and my rear quarter panels are rusting out, one of them very badly. Also I got rust eating out the black metal part of my rear doors, again one side worse than the other, one side is probably going to eat itself fully through the metal soon. The rust doesn't even look that bad but I was being quoted $1800 for repairs without mentioning the doors! It's almost pushed me to just get my use out of the car and don't even bother with the rust, however since it is an 07 would I be able to find some compensation for it?

[Booter22]

I have a 2007 sedan and rust blisters are forming with rust showing on top of my car, and my rear quarter panels are rusting out, one of them very badly. Also I got rust eating out the black metal part of my rear doors, again one side worse than the other, one side is probably going to eat itself fully through the metal soon. The rust doesn't even look that bad but I was being quoted $1800 for repairs without mentioning the doors! It's almost pushed me to just get my use out of the car and don't even bother with the rust, however since it is an 07 would I be able to find some compensation for it?

I would think not. Id suspect coverage expired in 2012 sometime.

[Cab0oze]

My 2008.5 speed was just approved to get rust fixed on the bottom of the rear drivers side door.... same place I had rust fixed on my 2004 sedan -_-

[Stathakos]

My 2008.5 speed was just approved to get rust fixed on the bottom of the rear drivers side door.... same place I had rust fixed on my 2004 sedan -_-

......................................... I have a 2009 and they are denying me, Which Dealer did you go to?

[DouggyD]

Do to all of the rust issues, I got the rust module installed. From what I read, they are not that effective, but it is supposed to include a 10 year warranty, so too tempting not to get it. Makes me wonder if Mazda factors that in to their pricing... Anyways, hopefully with the extended warranty, it will be easier to handle if there are still rust issues.

[hex]

Do to all of the rust issues, I got the rust module installed. From what I read, they are not that effective, but it is supposed to include a 10 year warranty, so too tempting not to get it. Makes me wonder if Mazda factors that in to their pricing... Anyways, hopefully with the extended warranty, it will be easier to handle if there are still rust issues.

for these rust modules, does it say surface rust or perforation? there's a big difference between the two.

[DouggyD]

don't have the paperwork in front of me, but the sales guy indicated a 10 year warranty for surface rust, which I think is worth the price if it is... plus the paint and fabric protection and 5 years free oil changes were included, so I took it, but after reading the reviews wondering if it was a good choice...

[Jenuine]

don't have the paperwork in front of me, but the sales guy indicated a 10 year warranty for surface rust, which I think is worth the price if it is... plus the paint and fabric protection and 5 years free oil changes were included, so I took it, but after reading the reviews wondering if it was a good choice...

I don't think it's surface rust you need to worry about, it's when the metal/steel rusts from the inside-out that you should worry.

[kaboose]

Hey guys today i looked under my car from the back and saw rust on suspension so is that covered under warranty? Should i be worried abt it ? I have 2010 Mazda 3 GS

[aris]

Hey guys today i looked under my car from the back and saw rust on suspension so is that covered under warranty? Should i be worried abt it ? I have 2010 Mazda 3 GS

Rust on your suspension is NOT covered under warranty

if you don't like the rusty suspension then you should rust proof your car... My car 5.5 years old and all my suspension is black cause I krowned my car from brand new

[kaboose]

Rust on your suspension is NOT covered under warranty

if you don't like the rusty suspension then you should rust proof your car... My car 5.5 years old and all my suspension is black cause I krowned my car from brand new

I dont care about the look of it i am just worried that it would spread further and rust other parts? Ye i made the mistake of not rust proofing when the car was new. So at krown do you have to rust proof every year or is it just one time thing?

[kaboose]

Rust on your suspension is NOT covered under warranty

if you don't like the rusty suspension then you should rust proof your car... My car 5.5 years old and all my suspension is black cause I krowned my car from brand new

I dont care about the look of it i am just worried that it would spread further and rust other parts? Ye i made the mistake of not rust proofing when the car was new. So at krown do you have to rust proof every year or is it just one time thing?

[Cab0oze]

I dont care about the look of it i am just worried that it would spread further and rust other parts? Ye i made the mistake of not rust proofing when the car was new. So at krown do you have to rust proof every year or is it just one time thing?
You have to do it every year so your car is always gross and oily.
Suspension rust will spread around the suspension slowly, won't affect the performance though. Its just surface rust.

[kaboose]

You have to do it every year so your car is always gross and oily.
Suspension rust will spread around the suspension slowly, won't affect the performance though. Its just surface rust.

do u knw if that would be covered under mazda's corrosion warranty? I emailed them but no response so not sure who to contact.

[Cab0oze]

do u knw if that would be covered under mazda's corrosion warranty? I emailed them but no response so not sure who to contact.

Suspension rust? Aris already answered that for you - no it is not.

[sunnydin]

I just bought a used 2010 Mazda3 Gt with 72,500 ams on it…Few scratches around door handles and lift gate but otherwise clean and no accidents.
Truly loving it and it has no rust.
So, I was wondering if I should Undercoat with Krown or is there another good competitor?
I have used Krown before, but, just wondering if anyone has an equivalent product now?
Not trying to cause any nasty arguments, just want to protect my little white marshmallow, thats all.
Thanks for any comments or assistance on rustproofing options!

[jaynsue13]

I just bought a used 2010 Mazda3 Gt with 72,500 ams on it…Few scratches around door handles and lift gate but otherwise clean and no accidents.
Truly loving it and it has no rust.
So, I was wondering if I should Undercoat with Krown or is there another good competitor?
I have used Krown before, but, just wondering if anyone has an equivalent product now?
Not trying to cause any nasty arguments, just want to protect my little white marshmallow, thats all.
Thanks for any comments or assistance on rustproofing options!

I have a 2007 Mazda 3 GT Original owner I have used Krown Faithfully for 5 years and I am one of few Mazda 3 owners with not one spec of rust

[Cab0oze]

and I am one of few Mazda 3 owners with not one spec of rust I'd be curious to see pics of the chassis... Is that actually rust free?

[aris]

I'd be curious to see pics of the chassis... Is that actually rust free?

Mines rust free..krowned since brand new... I will take pics when I get a chance.

only spot I had rust was both wheel wells and they've being fixed under warranty

[aris]

I'd be curious to see pics of the chassis... Is that actually rust free?

Here is some pictures of mine 5 years and 200,000km later krowned every summer from brand new
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps8c6cb92c.jpg
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps107460e7.jpg
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps1b502324.jpg

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Damn

[Cab0oze]

Here is some pictures of mine 5 years and 200,000km later krowned every summer from brand new
Dude that is such an oily mess you'd never know if it was rusting under there lol
You might say... but its oily so it won't rust. But then again, Mazda :P

[jaynsue13]

[QUOTE=aris;1136653]Here is some pictures of mine 5 years and 200,000km later krowned every summer from brand new
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps8c6cb92c.jpg
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps107460e7.jpg
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af102/aristeidis/null_zps1b502324.jpg[/QU

I have a 2007 Mazda 3 Krowned since day one no rust

[Cerberuska]

We have Mazda 3 2012 bought brand new right away Krown Protection. And after 20 months check the pictures. Also 5th door Brake's dust Speckle (as claimed from day one by dealer) turns out to be nice rust under paint. Somebody asked if we will buy Mazda again...No as a quality of the Paint and the corrosive protection on body is realy weak. We had Hyundai Elantra GT 2002 fro 7 years when the first signs of the rust started show up. Poor Quality

Front Door Driver Detail (http://ulozto.cz/xCi4LRjS/p1080424-jpg)
Front Door Driver (http://ulozto.cz/xrC8fniQ/p1080426-jpg)
Window Frame Detail (http://ulozto.cz/xaPhoCtg/p1080429-jpg)
Window Frame Detail (http://ulozto.cz/xhyP8eU9/p1080430-jpg)
Window Frame (http://ulozto.cz/xA1FGpQT/p1080432-jpg)
Window Frame (http://ulozto.cz/x4MvR1BZ/p1080431-jpg)
Fifth Door Brakes Dust Speckle turn out to the rust on the body (http://ulozto.cz/xBLuXc2G/p1080435-jpg)
Passenger Door Frame (http://ulozto.cz/xJiLWnDp/p1080437-jpg)
Passenger Door Frame Detail (http://ulozto.cz/xZbHtQcE/p1080440-jpg)

[G ~ MINI]

I have a 2007 Mazda 3 GT Original owner I have used Krown Faithfully for 5 years and I am one of few Mazda 3 owners with not one spec of rust

My 2012 2.0L M5 has Krown'ed since the start. At about 217K .
Whatever rust i do see is from paint chips rusting. Rear wheel wells look fine..
Chassis i will have look once its up for an oil change and i'll post some pics.
If youre not Krown use something else it helps keep rust away.

[Destarah]

G~MINI ... master of the necro :-)

that being said, my wife's 2012 M3 Sport GS Sky has the electronic module (purchased with the car, lifetime warranty on the body) ... we are at 157,000 km and the body is mint. Starting to see very minor rust on the hatch shock bolts and around the hatch release button. Dealer says the hatch shock bolt issue won't be covered (we'll see about that) but when the patch around the hatch release button gets bad enough that will be covered.

Will post some pictures when I get a chance ... I was skeptical, but I am now a firm believer in those modules. Even where the paint has chipped (hood and just above the skirt on the passenger side) the exposed metal is still solid.

I considered Krown from the start (did that with my other vehicles) but wanted to see how the module held up (and with the lifetime warranty I wasn't too worried if it sucked)

[G ~ MINI]

G~MINI ... master of the necro :-)

that being said, my wife's 2012 M3 Sport GS Sky has the electronic module (purchased with the car, lifetime warranty on the body) ... we are at 157,000 km and the body is mint. Starting to see very minor rust on the hatch shock bolts and around the hatch release button. Dealer says the hatch shock bolt issue won't be covered (we'll see about that) but when the patch around the hatch release button gets bad enough that will be covered.

Will post some pictures when I get a chance ... I was skeptical, but I am now a firm believer in those modules. Even where the paint has chipped (hood and just above the skirt on the passenger side) the exposed metal is still solid.

I considered Krown from the start (did that with my other vehicles) but wanted to see how the module held up (and with the lifetime warranty I wasn't too worried if it sucked)

I guess ...thank you...lol
Hey sorry for being a master of necro... but there are alot interesting topics
that have just faded away ...that we should keep alive ....especially older Mazda's ;)
Keeping my Zoom Zoom ...Zooming