JL Clean Sweep

[narcolepticus]

Anyone rawkin a JL CleanSweep? Like it, hate it? Easy to install? I really don't want to replace my HU for good sound ..

I would like to do the following:

JL CleanSweep
4 or 5 Channel Amp of some sort
upgrade speakers front and rear
8" sub

Comments?

[narcolepticus]

damn 'puter, double posting grrrr

[S.F.W.]

I believe Flagram_3 is running a cleansweep.

[Flagrum_3]

Hey Narco_ _ _ _ _damn that's a pain to write :chuckle

Yeap, I've got the CleanSweep...It made a huge difference in sound compared to running a straight LOC, but I would suggest you take a good look at the Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 or .1 (the .1 is much lower cost and comparable to the cleansweep) but offers realtime interactive signal processing which you can do with a Palm or any CE device.Its got 5v preAmp outputs, 15 band eq, low pass filter, and an aux input (for an ipod etc)...its an excellent unit and Definitely worth the look. :)


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[narcolepticus]

Hey Narco_ _ _ _ _damn that's a pain to write :chuckle

Yeap, I've got the CleanSweep...It made a huge difference in sound compared to running a straight LOC, but I would suggest you take a good look at the Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 or .1 (the .1 is much lower cost and comparable to the cleansweep) but offers realtime interactive signal processing which you can do with a Palm or any CE device.Its got 5v preAmp outputs, 15 band eq, low pass filter, and an aux input (for an ipod etc)...its an excellent unit and Definitely worth the look. :)


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hehe, it's kinda my thing being a pain in one's ass, just ask my girl .. ;)

hey S.F.W., Flagrum_3 that's great info. I have been checking out the Fosgate stuff but it requires a Palm device to set it up, i don't use Palm/ce devices unfortunately so i was focusing on the JL .. I am not *necessarily* concerned about the overall cost of the unit, I just want really good sound, at least for the type of music i listen to ..

Did you install it yourself?

[Noisy Crow]

Hey Narco_ _ _ _ _damn that's a pain to write :chuckle

Yeap, I've got the CleanSweep...It made a huge difference in sound compared to running a straight LOC, but I would suggest you take a good look at the Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 or .1 (the .1 is much lower cost and comparable to the cleansweep) but offers realtime interactive signal processing which you can do with a Palm or any CE device.Its got 5v preAmp outputs, 15 band eq, low pass filter, and an aux input (for an ipod etc)...its an excellent unit and Definitely worth the look. :)


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Where did you find the 3Sixtys cheaper than the Cleansweep? I admit to not looking too far, but every place I have seen the 3Sixtys they are pricier.....

[Flagrum_3]

hehe, it's kinda my thing being a pain in one's ass, just ask my girl .. ;)

hey S.F.W., Flagrum_3 that's great info. I have been checking out the Fosgate stuff but it requires a Palm device to set it up, i don't use Palm/ce devices unfortunately so i was focusing on the JL .. I am not *necessarily* concerned about the overall cost of the unit, I just want really good sound, at least for the type of music i listen to ..

Did you install it yourself?

Yes I did install the Cleansweep, it was quite simple actually, it was just a matter of swapping wires and cables from the Loc to the CS...As for the 3Sixty, it doesn't really need setting up at all, it'll automatically level out the OEM HU frequencies just like the Cleansweep but also has all the other features!... plus you don't neccessarily need a Palm, a Laptop with Bluetooth feature will do the job just fine.You should ask CoreySprung!, he's the guy you really want to talk to, he's got one set-up in his car! (You could always borrow someones Palm or laptop)....I wish I had known about the RF 3Sixty before I bought the Cleansweep...it's a better bang for the buck item...IMO, but I'm still happy with the cleansweep!

@ Noisy Crow, last I checked you could get a JL CleanSweep for around $350, whereas, the 3Sixty1. which I was talking about is like last years technology and you can probably pick them up for around the same, maybe just a bit more! Now the 3Sixty2, that's a different story its still quite costly...Haven't gone and checked personally but going by word of mouth on the 3Sixty prices.


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[narcolepticus]

Hey guys, thanks for the info :) i went and spoke to my buddy Paul at Natural Sound and he went through all the options for me as well .. I am totally leaning towards the CleanSweep, Slash V2 300/4v2 AMP and i am still deciding whether or not to go straight up JL (components up front, single 8" sub in the rear) or go the Focal route up front .. decisions

[S.F.W.]

I went all JL(speakers. amps, sub, box), and have been very pleased.

[doughboyr6]

i've read good reviews about the MTX one too...and its pretty cheap

[Noisy Crow]

i've read good reviews about the MTX one too...and its pretty cheap

Gah. I had a look at the MTX website... it's full of flash and other glitz :bang... absolutely impossible to quickly scan through. I'd avoid buying anything from them just on prinicple!

[All-Star]

Wow. I've been wondering if this stuff was available for car audio! This means I can possibly write music and even mix the track in my car lol!

For producers and audio engineers, flat frequency response owns. I've got my eye on the Cleansweep now.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Also reconsidering a clean sweep for my car. Standard L.O.C. didn't really turn my crank, but an aux mod plus clean sweep hmm.

[jsbola]

Anyone running an MTX Re-Q? Just came across it at Futureshop today and wondering if anyone has any experience with it? Costs about $145-195 depending on which unit you get and it doesnt have all the settings that a 3Sixty or Cleansweep would, more of a plug and play device. Anyone know much about it?

[KenYork]

Seems a few interested in this type of setup. Someone gonna start a GB???

[narcolepticus]

Seems a few interested in this type of setup. Someone gonna start a GB???

Sounds like a good idea! I am in .. unless my buddy Paul at NS hooks me up sooner, looking for January/February timeframe .. i hate the stock sound

[gabbygenier]

Hey guys, thanks for the info :) i went and spoke to my buddy Paul at Natural Sound and he went through all the options for me as well .. I am totally leaning towards the CleanSweep, Slash V2 300/4v2 AMP and i am still deciding whether or not to go straight up JL (components up front, single 8" sub in the rear) or go the Focal route up front .. decisions

I would go all JL. top quality man. im in the process of doing that. got the amps but i keep buying other things instead of the speakers and sub haha

[mazdas3sporte]

i dont get whats a clean sweep, what does this do? and for 350 u could pick out a very very nice deck, the alpine 9887 which is the top of the line alpine deck is around the same price as this, if u dont want to ruin the looks of the stock deck u can always put the aftermarket deck where ur cigarete lighter is, thats what iam doing as least.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I don't want my deck to be at all visable. Thats why the clean sweep is so appealing.

[waterskiguy_24]

Ok, so I've been doing some research and asking around. I've heard some people rave about the Clean Sweep, and others complain. I have an '08 mazda3 GT. I want to keep the integration of all the trip computer and what not, but I want better sound. So... I've been looking at the Clean Sweep. The idea of it really perks my interest, but one of the audio shops i talked to told me that it doesnt work great in the 3 cause you get a lot of noise. Engine noise, he called it. I dont want to spend a ton of money on it if i'm just going to be dissapointed with it. He keeps pushing me towards the Re-Q. I guess I'm just looking for some advice. Has anybody had any bad experiences with it? Obviously, i'll end up outputing the clean signal to an amp or two and run the speakers off those. Also, anyone know any good audio shops they recommend in the york region area? Thanks for the help.

[forbidden]

If your factory head unit has heavy equalization built into it (cough Bose based crap FYI), then a Cleansweep (massively overpriced in Canada) or the REQ5 (about $200) would be ideal. If you have no equalization built into the head unit then all you require is a good interface adaptor like the Audio Control LC6i. Either the LC6i or the REQ5 is what I recommend as both would solve the issues properly for you and deliver the expansion and performance that you seek.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Ya I am going with an req-5 after months of research.

I tried to find a cleansweep for a decent price locally but couldn't. Might as well have bought a deck and remote mounted it somewhere.

[waterskiguy_24]

If your factory head unit has heavy equalization built into it (cough Bose based crap FYI), then a Cleansweep (massively overpriced in Canada) or the REQ5 (about $200) would be ideal. If you have no equalization built into the head unit then all you require is a good interface adaptor like the Audio Control LC6i. Either the LC6i or the REQ5 is what I recommend as both would solve the issues properly for you and deliver the expansion and performance that you seek.

I have the factory head unit with the 6 disc changer in it. I dont think they offered the bose in '08, but I know i got the upgraded stereo. Im sure it still has built-in EQ though. Has anyone installed a ReQ5? The guy at the shop i was talking to only had a 2 channel version of the ReQ, So he was telling me to run 2 of them side by side for the 4 channels, which sounded stupid. But with the 5 channel version, it would work better. I would just output the signal from the ReQ5 to a pair of aftermarket amps and run the speakers and subs off of those right? The ReQ just drops the amplification and flattens out the eq right? That way I can re-amplify it properly and re-eq it the way i want for the aftermarket speakers? Correct me if im wrong. Thanks for the help guys.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

My understanding is that the re-q equalizes the signal similar to how a deck would and gives you the ability to add after market amplifiers (which you can then adjust how you see fit). It seems the re-q also adjust dynamically based on volume.


I see the advnatages to it as follows:
stealth
aux input
retain steering wheel controls
affordable

[forbidden]

Do not confuse the built in equalization to be a graphic equalizer or any fancy bass / treble control that is user adjustable. Built in EQ in the sense as it refers to a REQ5 or Cleansweep are the factory head unit is preprogrammed is not user adjustable. The REQ5 or the Audio Control LC6i would be ideal in this situation.

[waterskiguy_24]

Do not confuse the built in equalization to be a graphic equalizer or any fancy bass / treble control that is user adjustable. Built in EQ in the sense as it refers to a REQ5 or Cleansweep are the factory head unit is preprogrammed is not user adjustable. The REQ5 or the Audio Control LC6i would be ideal in this situation.

The stock head unit has some adjustable bass and trebble to it, which ive set up to my liking for now, but my understanding is that most head units these days have some preprogrammed eq set up to make the speakers sound better. It does this by adding in bass at low volumes and droping the bass out at high volumes to stop you from blowing the crappy stock speakers.

So i guess my question is.... do all these products, whether they be the cleansweep, the ReQ5, the LC6i or the Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2, do the same thing for me? Or do they have different purposes? And finally, does one do what i want it to do, better than another. (obviously, price comes into the equation eventually too)

So... in the end, which is best for what i want? I guess i'm looking for anyone with experience with these to let me know what they think. Is anybody dissapointed with the quality of of the sound produced by the setup they have, and would they suggest avoiding a certain product. Like i said in earlier posts, one guy told me the cleansweep sounds like crap in the 3. Should i believe it? or has someone used one in their ride and love it?

I know im asking a lot of questions, but like most of you im sure, i want to do it right the first time and not be dissapointed with it after i spend a bunch of money.

[forbidden]

The 360.2 has been a highly documented bug infestation. The JL Audio Cleansweep is a killer interface but is drastically overpriced at dealer cost in Canada (to the point that I do not recommend JL Audio to customers at all). The REQ5 has proven to be a solid contender and will most certainly work in this application. I would recommend it highly.

[waterskiguy_24]

Why is the clean sweep so expensive? is there something that it does that I cannot do with the ReQ5?

[Mty Mous]

The 360.2 has been a highly documented bug infestation.

What kinda bugs do they have? Not questioning your statement, I just wanna learn more about the RF 360.2's issues. I have a BNIB sitting at home still in its plastic wrapping, and wanna know if the bugs are due to user error or hardware\software.

[narcolepticus]

Why is the clean sweep so expensive? is there something that it does that I cannot do with the ReQ5?

Yeah, i am having a hard time justifying >$399 for this.. i would rather spend more on high quality speaker components. I think a little more research on the ReQ5 and AudioControl LC6i or LC7 would work well, just need to get a quote ..

forbidden: thoughts on the AudioControl stuff? I know you have mentioned it a time or two that it would be effective in this application but I would like to hear yours or anyones thoughts on the quality of this product over the MTX/Alpine/JL stuff ..

[kurse]

trust me stay away from the reQ. i had one for about 2 weeks but decided to buy a aftermarket deck in stead, they are very hard to tune.



Yeah, i am having a hard time justifying >$399 for this.. i would rather spend more on high quality speaker components. I think a little more research on the ReQ5 and AudioControl LC6i or LC7 would work well, just need to get a quote ..

forbidden: thoughts on the AudioControl stuff? I know you have mentioned it a time or two that it would be effective in this application but I would like to hear yours or anyones thoughts on the quality of this product over the MTX/Alpine/JL stuff ..

[All-Star]

To my knowledge, the main purpose of the Clean Sweep is to achieve a flatter, more accurate frequency response. In simple terms, it adjusts the bass, mid and high frequencies so that the music you hear sounds just as the artist/producer/mix engineer intended. It's an automatic EQ.

[narcolepticus]

To my knowledge, the main purpose of the Clean Sweep is to achieve a flatter, more accurate frequency response. In simple terms, it adjusts the bass, mid and high frequencies so that the music you hear sounds just as the artist/producer/mix engineer intended. It's an automatic EQ.

indeed that it's main purpose is a flatter response but also use this to expand your stock system as well .. which is what i want to do - add amps, aux. input etc.

[Flagrum_3]

Why is the clean sweep so expensive? is there something that it does that I cannot do with the ReQ5?

That's simple; Quality of Engineering, build and components used!...It is simply the best component money can buy, at the moment, that will take the "All over the place" frequencies coming out from your oem hu and give you a True Flat Response,.....simply put :chuckle

Limited only by the fact it's frequencies cannot be adjusted per vehicle, but if True Flat Response is what you want...this is the unit.


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[jaimie08mazda3]

simple as this you could go out and buy the canadian tire LOC but if you want the best go out and buy the clean sweep. i will once i have enough money.

[forbidden]

The Audio Control devices are a stand off favorite when you do not need the EQ correction offered by the others. Not all systems are Bose based and even then, some that are have hidden amplifiers (most all of them) where the EQ is located. In this circumstance you tap the outputs of the headunit before the amp to have a nice clean signal. Then you have your 3 outputs for system expansion, a built in line driver and sub level controller.

[narcolepticus]

The Audio Control devices are a stand off favorite when you do not need the EQ correction offered by the others. Not all systems are Bose based and even then, some that are have hidden amplifiers (most all of them) where the EQ is located. In this circumstance you tap the outputs of the headunit before the amp to have a nice clean signal. Then you have your 3 outputs for system expansion, a built in line driver and sub level controller.

Nice, thx forbidden et al! this is great, i like this because i am hearing/reading the same thing over and over, whereas i hear/read mixed reviews/feeling/experiences with the JL/MTX gear.

this is going to make the decision much easier. That said I may be heading to Guelph today, perhaps stop in (just to look - i was thinking Audio Heaven could hook me up, though it is some distance for me) see what they going .. i like to look at stuff, perhaps test out some configurations..

[Mty Mous]

Company wise, Audio Control is a solid company, and aren't afraid to stand behind their product! I've owned and still have many of their products.

I've personally never tried the LC6i, but I bet their build quality is still great.

Question for those of you using the LC6i ... where did you guys mount it? Inside the glovebox?

[narcolepticus]

Company wise, Audio Control is a solid company, and aren't afraid to stand behind their product! I've owned and still have many of their products.

I've personally never tried the LC6i, but I bet their build quality is still great.

Question for those of you using the LC6i ... where did you guys mount it? Inside the glovebox?

Thx Mty .. as i have said, i keep hearing the same great stuff .. :bana2