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gar_lei
03-02-2009, 09:20 PM
Hello guys,
I got myself a Mazda 3 GT HB last month and I'm @ 1000KM.
I want to know when do I need to do my first oil change?
I heard some people suggesting to do an early oil change to clear out all the metal pieces and other stuff that's in the engine... I have no clue abt it, any recommendation would be really appreciated.
THANKS!
Thrizzl3
03-02-2009, 09:23 PM
i say wait til 8000
Malcolm991
03-02-2009, 09:24 PM
No you shouldn't, wait until 8k! Mazda will tell you that aswell!
I did mine at 6,500km...only cause i was leaving for NYC and i didn't want to pass the 8,000km mark.
casperwonder
03-02-2009, 10:06 PM
I did it at 2000k just to be save, If you check your dip stick you can see the oil is honey brown, which is design to break in your engine. I went to my first oil service and I can see small metal piece came out of the oil. After your first oil change you will gain some mileage per liter as well. Don't worry too much about changing your oil too early. Just my 2cents.
mazdas3sporte
03-02-2009, 10:16 PM
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my car has 5000 Km after 1 year and iam going in for my second oil change sometime this march,
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my car has 5000 Km after 1 year and iam going in for my second oil change sometime this march,
You are wrong....read your owner manual...its 8,000km or 4 months which ever comes first!
Malcolm991
03-02-2009, 10:21 PM
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my car has 5000 Km after 1 year and iam going in for my second oil change sometime this march,
I think your numbers are a bit off! It's in the manual (oil change every 8k ).http://torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=10711
This should tell you everything!
mazdabetty
03-02-2009, 11:02 PM
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my car has 5000 Km after 1 year and iam going in for my second oil change sometime this march,
Wow that doesn't sound right... I've already put 4000k on it and I've only had it for 1 month... I'll be at nearly 20k at that rate!!!!
Actually while we're on the topic, is every 5000k too early for a change?
S.F.W.
03-02-2009, 11:08 PM
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my car has 5000 Km after 1 year and iam going in for my second oil change sometime this march,
that is incorrect. It is every 4 months or 8000KM whichever comes first.
http://torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=10711
Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 11:01 AM
I changed my oil at around 1,700kms to go to synthetic. Then am going to change it again at 8,000kms and maybe every 6 months after that with RP. I'm not sure I feel comfortable with the 1 year oil change with our climate.
There is such a thing as changing your oil too frequently. Used oil analysis shows that a the majority of wear particles accumulate in the oil within the first 1,000kms after an oil change. This is due to the additives in the oil requiring heat and pressure to come into full effect to do their job to the fullest. So in doing oil cahnges too early on a regular basis you are putting your engine through this initial high wear period more frequently. Not too mention changing out oil that is still doing it's job, wasting money. A good quality synthetic can be left for very extended drain intervals, such that RP and Amsoil only recommend changing their oil out once a year or at around 24,000kms.
Of course there are many variables to take into account and the only way to truly determine is to get used oil analysis done and let the results speak for themselves.
To be safe and cost effective, if you're using regular oil, follow what the manual says.
gar_lei
03-03-2009, 11:39 AM
Hmmm~
So if I want to go synthetic, do I change it @ 1,500KM and them @ 8000KM or I should do it only @ 8000KM?
Hmmm~
So if I want to go synthetic, do I change it @ 1,500KM and them @ 8000KM or I should do it only @ 8000KM?
It up to you when you want to start using synthetic. I started using synthetic at 22,000km.
But even still change my oil at 8,000km or 4 month since the car is under warrenty.
But rember this you should not be gong back and forth..once you start using synthetic you should always use it after. And synthetic is a bit more money.
Mazda3X2
03-03-2009, 12:34 PM
Hmmm~
So if I want to go synthetic, do I change it @ 1,500KM and them @ 8000KM or I should do it only @ 8000KM?
IMO +1 to what aristeidis said ^^^
I decided to change mine to sythetic at the 1,700km mark because;
A) It's a turbo &
B) Winter was fast coming and I wanted the best protection for cold starts.
gar_lei
03-03-2009, 04:58 PM
tough decision...
mine is NA...
dkwan416
03-05-2009, 09:01 PM
I just hit 8,000kms and did my first oil change last night.
My fuel efficiency had dwindled dramatically over time (to 450kms per tank roughly), and I can already notice the difference having changed the oil.
mazdas3sporte
03-05-2009, 09:55 PM
No its every 4 months 0r 8 k, , Call ur dealer up and ask. my mistake for not stating that, I never get to the specified Km so I go by time, as the oil ages it becomes acidic so if u have 2000km after 4 months u still need an oil change.
go for synthetic if u have the money, much more smoother shifts during cold weather as well, I personally dont use it cause I feel its a waste of money considering how long iam going to be driving the car for.
jcutner
03-05-2009, 11:22 PM
Where do you guys go for oil changes (if you are not under warranty)? Would you still book it at a dealer, or go to a place like Pennzoil, etc
I've read the horror stories about how oil changes can be a pain in the ass on our cars... so going to a quick place like Pennzoil, Mr Lube, etc seems worrying
Where do you guys go for oil changes (if you are not under warranty)? Would you still book it at a dealer, or go to a place like Pennzoil, etc
I've read the horror stories about how oil changes can be a pain in the ass on our cars... so going to a quick place like Pennzoil, Mr Lube, etc seems worrying
Ya if you can't do it your self i personaly woould still take it to dealer.....my $.02
JordanAndrew
03-06-2009, 07:02 AM
Dealership usually ends up being cheaper than other places (aside from doing it yourself.) Save yourself the trouble and just pay the dealership to do a proper oil change.
Nova 3 GT
03-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Dealership usually ends up being cheaper than other places (aside from doing it yourself.) Save yourself the trouble and just pay the dealership to do a proper oil change.
+1. And the dealer won't overtighten the oil cartridge cover:)
And the dealer won't overtighten the oil cartridge cover:)
Actualy alot of the people here that had their oil cartridge over tightened was from the dealer...lol
8000 is a big big big no no, Its every 4 months regardless of the km u put on, my ca,
This what you wrote on thread #6
No its every 4 months 0r 8 k, , Call ur dealer up and ask. my mistake for not stating that, I never get to the specified Km.
And now this is what you wrote now..hmm
(Edit could the mods delete thread #18 and 19 I just figured out how to quote..Thanks)
Go_Habs_Go
03-06-2009, 01:31 PM
to the OP: there's a ton of threads on this forum about this subject, do a search and you'll find a lot of info on this topic. :)
Jeff0
03-06-2009, 02:55 PM
What about you did your oil changed in 5 or 6 months but still under 8K km does it will void your warranty?
Harbour Rat
03-06-2009, 09:55 PM
I can't really offer any help. Old habits die hard. I've been running these infernal 4-stroke contraptions for more than 20 years now I'm still trying to get my head around putting the oil in the crankcase instead of the fuel tank. It just ain't natural.
What about you did your oil changed in 5 or 6 months but still under 8K km does it will void your warranty?
Owners manaul calls for 8,000km or 4 months....
I think you should go every 4,000km regardless if your under 8,000km
my $.02
Cosmo77
03-06-2009, 10:46 PM
I say do your first oil change between 5000-8000km (OR 4 Months). The oil that is in your engine from the factory is a ester (mineral) oil based fluid meant for the break in period of you engine. After that you can use what every you heart desirers for oil in the engine.
Cosmo
Mazda Tech
p.s. Still I have never seen an engine fail b/c the oil was changed too many times. So please change you oil often....I am too busy right now to be doing any motors!
Jeff0
03-07-2009, 01:29 AM
Owners manaul calls for 8,000km or 4 months....
I think you should go every 4,000km regardless if your under 8,000km
my $.02
Yeah it's stated in the manual "8K or 4months" doesn't have any tolerance like a month? Manual never say that warranty will be void if it lapse to 4months... I''m also referring the regular oil change interval...let's say I did my oil changed every 5 or 6 months at 6K or 7K km, does it void my warranty?
Jeff0
03-07-2009, 01:35 AM
Owners manaul calls for 8,000km or 4 months....
I think you should go every 4,000km regardless if your under 8,000km
my $.02
Yeah it's stated in the manual "8K or 4months" doesn't have any tolerance like a month? Manual never say that warranty will be void if it lapse to 4months... I''m also referring the regular oil change interval...let's say I did my oil changed every 5 or 6 months at 6K or 7K km, does it void my warranty?
silentRAGE
03-07-2009, 08:50 AM
i did my first oil change at 3000km.. i plan to do another regular oil change at 6000km before switching to mobil1 synthetic oil then every 5000km sounds about right?
Cosmo77
03-07-2009, 08:55 AM
Every 5000-8000km is about right. Anything lower than 5000km is kinda overkill (once again I will state nothing has blow up from having the oil changed too many times) IMO, and if your changing at intervals less than 5000km....there really doesn;t seem to be a reason to use synthetic.
I change my Mazda between 6000-8000km's and my VW every 10000 (vw interval for the TDI is 16000).
Yeah it's stated in the manual "8K or 4months" doesn't have any tolerance like a month? Manual never say that warranty will be void if it lapse to 4months... I''m also referring the regular oil change interval...let's say I did my oil changed every 5 or 6 months at 6K or 7K km, does it void my warranty?
You should talk to your dealer about that....cause someone here can say ya don't worrie about it and then later on something happens and then the the dealer tells ya its not covered under warrnty cause you never took it in like you were supposed to...So i would check with the dealer about that..my $.02
karlo
04-14-2009, 03:20 PM
Just don't go to Jiffy Lube. Idiots didnt put the filter back on correctly and everything seized after that.....
dadinho_nfg
10-12-2009, 08:25 PM
hey guys, i know this is the FIRST oil change section, but i was wondering a good place to get an oil change, the car is NEW to be, but its an 06 with now 80 000 kms, and yes it will be my FIRST change....
i want to use mobil 1 synthetic oil and a fram filter....if i buy the stuff from canadian tire and take it to some machine, will they do it for me?
any suggestions on anything else being checked/changed since its now got 80 000km?
dadinho_nfg
10-12-2009, 08:34 PM
sorry, once again, a place in mississauga would be best for me :)
thanks
TheMAN
10-12-2009, 09:18 PM
fram makes an inferior filter compared to the factory one
the best place to get your oil change is at the dealer for warranty purposes... you can request mobil1 be used at the dealer
McGuyver_3
10-12-2009, 09:26 PM
Did my first oil change at 2000km and every 2000km after that but yet again I push my car on a daily. I push it but dont beat on it yes there is a difference
dadinho_nfg
10-21-2009, 10:51 PM
is there a difference between regular oil filter or synthetic oil filter?
LovemyMazda
11-03-2009, 01:40 PM
I go 7000km with Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 or 5W20. It is truly a fantastic oil. I pick it up in buffalo for $20 5Qt Jug. Also Carquest premium filters. Its made by Wix. A Great filter! My oil is still very clean on the dipstick after nearly 7000km.
pacmann33
11-03-2009, 07:48 PM
I just did my first at 3600 kms, I wanted to do it around 2k or 2500kms but I was simply too busy. I'm gonna do every 5,000kms unless I go synthetic. I don't drive very much with my own vehicle tho.
McGuyver_3
11-03-2009, 07:51 PM
there is no difference between synthetic and non synthetic filters as a filter is just a filter. Of course you could go mazda or aftermarket but i dont see the need to go aftermarket for the filter.
pacmann33
11-03-2009, 08:52 PM
there is no difference between synthetic and non synthetic filters as a filter is just a filter. Of course you could go mazda or aftermarket but i dont see the need to go aftermarket for the filter.
LOL what he said...regular vs synthetic only applies to oil. Often times the OEM filters are better than some aftermarket brands.
Often times the OEM filters are better than some aftermarket brands.
most OEM filters are made by after market brands..for example when i had my dakota the "mopar filter" was made by "fram"
pacmann33
11-03-2009, 09:21 PM
You are correct, but their specs are different, for example filter media, bypass design etc etc etc. Flow rates for the generic fram branded fliters are also different than the OEM spec fram built filters in 90% of cases.
Not every case this is true, but in many it is. It may be made by Fram but it was designed from the ground up for the OEM application.
Most parts of any vehicle aren't really made by the manufacturer, but under licence for the manufacturer. I work in automation, used to be in the automotive field, I know all about who really makes what parts LOL. Many Honda OEM parts are made in the same factory that makes Nissan, GM, ford and Chrysler parts all under one roof, whether it be hydroforming, or stamping etc etc. I designed and built a machine that is still on the 06+ Civic control arm line, and also the accord trailing arm line.
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