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....should I fight it?
Its 10 over in a 50kmh. No points. ($50)
I had a ticket 2 months ago for 3 points. (I know I know don't ask, same road same spot. Bad month).
I don't want this ticket to affect insurance because I already have the other one. What should I do? Should I try and fight it to get it off my record?
I wouldn't even bother for a ticket so small...
S.F.W.
04-25-2009, 10:44 AM
Fight it. The key is to request discovery from the prosecutor.
sunkist4338
04-25-2009, 10:46 AM
....should I fight it?
Its 10 over in a 50kmh. No points. ($50)
I had a ticket 2 months ago for 3 points. (I know I know don't ask, same road same spot. Bad month).
I don't want this ticket to affect insurance because I already have the other one. What should I do? Should I try and fight it to get it off my record?
if you are driving in a commuity safty zone, I think you may lose points again as in the first ticket. I would fight it, thats 6 point total. insurance wont like it.
if you are driving in a commuity safty zone, I think you may lose points again as in the first ticket. I would fight it, thats 6 point total. insurance wont like it.
Did you read the first post? My second ticket has no points.
The first ticket is paid and I had 3 points. I didn't fight that one but that one is done and over with.
I'm concerned about the second one I don't want to have two tickets when my insurance is reviewed.
Fight it. The key is to request discovery from the prosecutor.
What does that mean/do?
dentinger
04-25-2009, 11:02 AM
10 over? really? wow.
ive NEVER been booked forn 10 over. the cops usually just follow my until i surpass 15 over.
and all my other speeding tickets have been knocked down to 10 over. so just pay it dude.
edit. on second thought, fight it, its only 10 over, it should be pretty easy to fight.
Noisy Crow
04-25-2009, 11:15 AM
How long ago was your fiirst ticket? From an insurance POV they stick around 3 years.. The fact that the 2nd is only 10 over really won't matter to your insurance company... it will count against you and your rate could go up.
So it is probably worth fighting...
MAZDA Kitten
04-25-2009, 12:34 PM
Did he reduce it? (Is there an "R") anywhere on your ticket in a box? if he reduced it on the spot then its tought to find it for a reduction but at this point you'd be betting on flooding the system and hope it doesnt go to trial. Mine took almost 18 months but it was 36 over but it got thrown out.
Flagrum_3
04-25-2009, 12:40 PM
Fight it!! One ticket the insurance will overlook, two tickets they'll rape you!...points or not! You'll pay for the next several years too.
Always fight a ticket, is my motto! :)
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It was reduced from something like 30 over apparently, I don't see an "R" anywhere on the ticket or anything about it being reduced.
MAZDA Kitten
04-25-2009, 05:08 PM
Then you're good to go! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
Gizzmo_jr
04-25-2009, 05:16 PM
I've just paid off my two 10km/h overs. But they were years ago.
Hives
04-25-2009, 10:45 PM
go speak to the justice of the peace n tell them ur a student in debt. that should do the trick.
SilentJay
04-25-2009, 11:41 PM
Don't let them trick you with "it won't affect your insurance". It will be on your record, although your CURRENT insurance provider will probably not bump your premiums. Switch providers with one or more of these "invisible charges" and you're deemed higher risk. A drivers abstract that I had to get confirms that it is noted.
p-o-g-i
04-25-2009, 11:49 PM
Wow, I didn't even know tickets for going 10 over existed. I always thought 15 over was the minimum. Anyhow, I agree with the above post to talk to the JOP. 4 out of 5 times you can get the ticket reduced or erased.
towelsnap
04-26-2009, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't even bother for a ticket so small...
I'd agree, my insurance quoted me that I could get 2 tickets 20+ over and my rates wouldn't raise, mind you.. you've been caught before lol, and if you are going to fight it , do what Hives says lol
jaimie08mazda3
04-26-2009, 12:15 AM
YOU GOT LUCKY LAST TIME, this time is just retarded. what kind of cop pulls you over for 10 over. musta been a damn bored cop.
7am going to work, I mean i was one of the only people on the road. He reduced it from 25 or something over I guess which was nice. He caught me in a rush to work :(
So JOP? Does that mean I just go in on my own and plead my case?
jaimie08mazda3
04-26-2009, 12:46 AM
dave... im gonnna tell you.. just pay it.. it wont affect your insurance because its 10 over. it really only matters when you get points. plus you wont get it thrown out of court and the police officer can bring it back up that inf act you were actually going 25 over. just pay it and get on with yer day man
S.F.W.
04-26-2009, 12:47 AM
7am going to work, I mean i was one of the only people on the road. He reduced it from 25 or something over I guess which was nice. He caught me in a rush to work :(
So JOP? Does that mean I just go in on my own and plead my case?
KOP=Justice of the Peace. I'll get you some info tomorrow night, I have some very useful bookmarks on my notebook.
Noisy Crow
04-26-2009, 01:05 AM
.. it wont affect your insurance because its 10 over
Every on-line insurance qutotation thing I have tried had two categories of speeding tickets: 49 and under, 50 and over. When you apply in person, do they actually ask about the infraction? Or is it that if there is no points there is no record?
alhope34
04-26-2009, 01:08 AM
10 over will affect your rates 100%. I have a 10 over ticket on my license that is coming off for next renewal, but the last two years and this year I am paying 15% more than I would be without the 10 over ticket there.
bubba1983
04-26-2009, 03:02 AM
well shit, thats ballz......jus goes to show rushing to work isn't worth it
7am going to work, I mean i was one of the only people on the road. He reduced it from 25 or something over I guess which was nice. He caught me in a rush to work :(
If he reduced the ticket for you from the actualy speed you were going then you shouldn't even bother taking it to court and fighting..my $.02
My insurance never got effected for monior tickets...I got a 43 over the limit and my insuance never went up from it...As long as i don't got more then 2 minor tickets my insurance does not go up...
Saphress
04-26-2009, 10:36 AM
Mmmm... I am pretty sure that no matter what about you were speeding, or whether you get the ticket thrown out of court/or reduced... I do believe it's still on your record with Insurance companies... no?
howes
04-26-2009, 10:57 AM
Word to the wise...........If you fight the ticket.......as in plead not guilty, then the speed will go to the original speed of 30 km/h over! The box which contains the "r" should be towards the bottom where the officers badge is, this is not a must or deal breaker though for you. It can be ammended in court. The only real option you have is hope that the officer doesn't attend court or that the trail date is more than one year from the conviction date (charter arguement).
stormin84
04-26-2009, 11:16 AM
Word to the wise...........If you fight the ticket.......as in plead not guilty, then the speed will go to the original speed of 30 km/h over! The box which contains the "r" should be towards the bottom where the officers badge is, this is not a must or deal breaker though for you. It can be ammended in court. The only real option you have is hope that the officer doesn't attend court or that the trail date is more than one year from the conviction date (charter arguement).
how can they up it to the original, was i going the 10 over or was i going the 30 over, the ticket says 10 over, but if i fight it...it goes up to 30 over. and i thought that cops where not allowed to reduce the tickets anymore.
3GFX...did the cop show you your speed on the radar, it not how do you/he know how fast you were doing
I didn't see a gun at all. He told me I was going 80 in a 50 which I don't think I was even close to that. He told me "I'm here enforcing the speed limit, so I'm going to give you a ticket for 10 over...slow down."
I know it will go onto insurance. The big thing for me is I'm looking for a home this year and I don't want my insurance to go up :( I was paying $1800 a year with belair. I just turned 23 and they reduced it to $1700 and this was a month or two after the previous ticket for 29 over. So next year I'm expecting the first ticket to go onto insurance I'm just hoping it won't. So I really don't want a second ticket to go on my previously clean record :(
laksman91
04-26-2009, 12:15 PM
A friend of mine is in a similar situation where there was no gun used. The way I see it with no gun used, theres no evidence and you should be able to fight it due to the lack of proof.
Flagrum_3
04-26-2009, 12:18 PM
Mmmm... I am pretty sure that no matter what about you were speeding, or whether you get the ticket thrown out of court/or reduced... I do believe it's still on your record with Insurance companies... no?
A ticket charge will not show on your driver's abstract until it has gone thru the courts, and found quilty, or you just sign the ticket and let it go thru unchallenged.
People seem to have some strange ideas (not pointing to you Saphress) about how and when a ticket will effect your insurance.
Most insurance co's will overlook one ticket (unless it's a doosy, like 50 over), but once a second ticket shows up even a measly 10 over ticket; IF the Insurance co. decides to check your abstract, and they sometimes do for the heck of it....they will increase your premium based on 'all' tickets showing, as you now appear as a liability to them.
So my earlier statement stands; FIGHT all tickets!! It can save you hundreds down the road.
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Noisy Crow
04-26-2009, 12:21 PM
Rather than listen to us blather on like we actually really know for sure about this: :)
http://www.google.ca/search?q=ontario+speeding+ticket+fight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
http://www.trafficticketadvocates.ca/questions_answers.html#7
Saphress
04-26-2009, 12:53 PM
A ticket charge will not show on your driver's abstract until it has gone thru the courts, and found quilty, or you just sign the ticket and let it go thru unchallenged.
People seem to have some strange ideas (not pointing to you Saphress) about how and when a ticket will effect your insurance.
Most insurance co's will overlook one ticket (unless it's a doosy, like 50 over), but once a second ticket shows up even a measly 10 over ticket; IF the Insurance co. decides to check your abstract, and they sometimes do for the heck of it....they will increase your premium based on 'all' tickets showing, as you now appear as a liability to them.
So my earlier statement stands; FIGHT all tickets!! It can save you hundreds down the road.
_3
Lol... None taken ;) ... A buddy of mine just bought a mazda 6 last week... His insurance company said he had 6 speeding tickets :P... Although he fought a couple of them... and they were thrown out of court... ?!?!
TRust me... when I was a cocky lil driver when I was younger... I think I had enough tickets ... and I fought every one of them. However... still did damage with my insurance :P
(knocking on wood)
A friend of mine is in a similar situation where there was no gun used. The way I see it with no gun used, theres no evidence and you should be able to fight it due to the lack of proof.
The cop does not have to show you the radar gun.
Mazda3X2
04-26-2009, 08:59 PM
If he reduced the ticket for you from the actualy speed you were going then you shouldn't even bother taking it to court and fighting..my $.02
+1
If you were actually doing only 10 over and it wasn't a school zone or something sure.
But to show up in court and have the cop say he was doing 30 over and I gave him a break because he had a good attitude (or whatever reason)....not so good.
And no they don't have to show you the radar gun or speed locked in that you were doing. All he has to do is state what equipment he was using, when it was calibrated last (which should have been the start of his shift), and that he is certified to use it.
x_o_k_x
04-26-2009, 11:26 PM
dave... im gonnna tell you.. just pay it.. it wont affect your insurance because its 10 over.
speeding ticket is still a speeding ticket and insurance will go up no matter if its 10 over or 49km/h, still a speeding ticket.
speeding ticket is still a speeding ticket and insurance will go up no matter if its 10 over or 49km/h, still a speeding ticket.
Out of all the years i have been driving (10 years) my insurance never went up for having minor speeding tickets...at one point i had 7 points off
My last ticket i got i was going 123km in a 80km zone..thats 43km over the limit and it never went up at all!
mazdabetty
04-27-2009, 12:38 AM
Yep same here.
Who on earth are your insurance companies?
Flagrum_3
04-27-2009, 01:30 AM
Out of all the years i have been driving (10 years) my insurance never went up for having minor speeding tickets...at one point i had 7 points off
My last ticket i got i was going 123km in a 80km zone..thats 43km over the limit and it never went up at all!
Count yourself very lucky then, as obviously they never checked your abstract.Like I said IF they ever decided to pull your abstract then with 7 points you would have been screwed.So find a piece of wood and knock on it. :chuckle
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hammer
04-27-2009, 01:57 AM
a police officer is not entitled to show you the radar gun and your speed... if he has reduced it and you take it to court, the courts will frown upon it because as far as they are concerned you have already been given a break and a lot more than what the courts would have offered... so in your case you are gambling
under other circumstances always take the ticket to court
jaimie08mazda3
04-27-2009, 02:08 AM
a police officer is not entitled to show you the radar gun and your speed... if he has reduced it and you take it to court, the courts will frown upon it because as far as they are concerned you have already been given a break and a lot more than what the courts would have offered... so in your case you are gambling
under other circumstances always take the ticket to court
VERY WRONG they are legally obliged to show you the radar. If they refuse to show you the radar gun and he admits in court that he refused to show you the radar the ticket will be thrown out immediately. And basically what your saying is that a police officer says you were doing 60 KM/hr over the speed limit.. and you ask well lets see the radar... cop says no. That means that he can take your car away no questions asked... yea i dont think so... but you are right.. you are gambling it, because he gave you a break.. it will show on your record but as a minor offence.
hammer
04-27-2009, 02:22 AM
jaimie i am no expert on this but i am basing it on mere logic and common sense:
if an officer's word is meaningless on the street then his word should be meaningless in the court of law... there is no print out or radar gun that he brings to court to show the judge... it's his word (ofcourse with the facts pertaining to the radar gun...make/model/operation/calibration etc) that has a standing in court
if he just felt like lying he could just as easily clocked some other car earlier in the day and then just sit there and pull over every other car and show them that speed
jaimie08mazda3
04-27-2009, 02:25 AM
your right.. HOWEVER legally he HAS to show you. so basically you could be going 20 KM/Hr over the speed limit tomorrow... have a cop pull you over saying you were doing 50 over... you would be like let me see the radar gun... cop would say no. you would say well im not giving you my car untill i see for myself that i have been accused of going 50 over the speed limit when i know for a fact i wasnt doing anything near there. Plus they have to calibrate it every time they pull someone over. I know this because i sat in a cop car when i had my accident and i was asking the officer about the radar.
S.F.W.
04-27-2009, 02:26 AM
VERY WRONG they are legally obliged to show you the radar. If they refuse to show you the radar gun and he admits in court that he refused to show you the radar the ticket will be thrown out immediately. And basically what your saying is that a police officer says you were doing 60 KM/hr over the speed limit.. and you ask well lets see the radar... cop says no. That means that he can take your car away no questions asked... yea i dont think so... but you are right.. you are gambling it, because he gave you a break.. it will show on your record but as a minor offence.
Sorry to burst your bubble Jamie. Cop does not legally have to show you the radar gun, it is their discretion. I'm willing to wager $100 that I am correct.
hammer
04-27-2009, 02:35 AM
i am pretty confident about that too (not $100 confident tho;))
its like a cop giving you a ticket for not stopping at a stop sign... he gives you a ticket while you think otherwise... no proof there... his word against yours and the only option to challenge that is to have your day in court... i was told 'tough luck'
jaimie i know where you are coming from but thats how it is... frustrating when you are on the recieving end but if everyone could simply challenge a cop nothing would get done and cops would have worse reputation than they already have
jaimie08mazda3
04-27-2009, 02:44 AM
i think im going to talk to the cop i know and find out. because thats not right if you think about it. because it really once again doesnt make sense. come to think about it... the cop that gave me the ticket never showed me the radar gun
Noisy Crow
04-27-2009, 08:34 AM
your right.. HOWEVER legally he HAS to show you.
Not true. As an analogy: if a cop paces you in in his car, does he have to let you hop in to his car and see his speedometer to prove that you are going over the limit?
Count yourself very lucky then, as obviously they never checked your abstract.Like I said IF they ever decided to pull your abstract then with 7 points you would have been screwed.So find a piece of wood and knock on it. :chuckle
_3
My tickets were monior.. one ticket i lost 4 points (33 over the limit) and the other was for 3 points (20 over the limit) all within one year.
Every year the insurance pulls drivers abstract..It was on my policy that i had 2 monior tickets.
At the time i was with Pilot ins..
The only reason why i am no longer with them is cause my truck was moddifed and they droped me cause of that after 4 years:flaming
Who on earth are your insurance companies?
I was with PILOT at the time..but don't forget that i am over 25
Not true. As an analogy: if a cop paces you in in his car, does he have to let you hop in to his car and see his speedometer to prove that you are going over the limit?
+1
mazdabetty
04-27-2009, 11:10 AM
Who on earth are your insurance companies?
hahahha... well it was one ticket for me and I fought it cuz I was a student at the time, so they lowered it a bit. But it never went on my record, somehow... :whoa
And actually there was a second ticket but the cop was dumb and wrote down that I was like 57 years old and got all the information on my vehicle wrong so I think they threw it out. Guess that's what you get when you try to pull over 3 ppl on foot at once? lol
ALWAYS fight your speeding tickets... No matter what. Even if the cop is nice to you lol. If you cannot defend yourself properly, it's usually better to hire a GOOD paralegal to defend you. I know a great guy if anyone is interested. He has won 95% of my cases.
If you think "It's only a 10 over ticket, no biggy" and then have a bad year (or more realistically, bad 3 years), your insurance rates could go up if they look into your record. It doesn't matter how fast you were going, a ticket is a ticket. They usually pardon one or two, but your rates WILL go up even if it's 1 km over the limit.
Remember, you have to watch your speed for the next 3 years if you decide to ride out the first ticket and not fight it....
Mazda3X2
04-27-2009, 12:09 PM
I worked as a police auxillary for 3 years and used that oppotunity to ask many questions and learn what I could.
What I stated in my last post is correct (at least as of about 5 years ago).
And no they don't have to show you the radar gun or speed locked in that you were doing. All he has to do is state what equipment he was using, when it was calibrated last (which should have been the start of his shift), and that he is certified to use it.
The cop doesn't even have to lock in your speed on the unit to even be able to show you. They generally do as practice.
The newer units then would automatically remember the highest speed since the last clear. But following your logic he would then have to prove to you that it was you and not someone from 15 minutes ago.
They get a big kick out of people stating "you have to show me the radar". Only once did I hear of someone even asking to see it, and when the officer oblidged and offered to take him back to the cruiser to see, he refused.
Mazda3X2
04-27-2009, 12:10 PM
ALWAYS fight your speeding tickets... No matter what. Even if the cop is nice to you lol. If you cannot defend yourself properly, it's usually better to hire a GOOD paralegal to defend you. I know a great guy if anyone is interested. He has won 95% of my cases.
If you think "It's only a 10 over ticket, no biggy" and then have a bad year (or more realistically, bad 3 years), your insurance rates could go up if they look into your record. It doesn't matter how fast you were going, a ticket is a ticket. They usually pardon one or two, but your rates WILL go up even if it's 1 km over the limit.
Remember, you have to watch your speed for the next 3 years if you decide to ride out the first ticket and not fight it....
Sounds like what you need instead of a GOOD paralegal is to actually slow down.
Sounds like what you need instead of a GOOD paralegal is to actually slow down.
How did you come up with that? I gave you a percentage and the OP mentioned two tickets and you're telling ME that I need to slow down?... For all you know, I've fought two tickets.
Just FYI, I have a 6-star insurance record and haven't received a speeding ticket in over 3 years.... You don't have to wait for your 10th ticket before you take them seriously by hiring a good paralegal. Also, a paralegal is just a fancy name for a ticket fighting guy. My guy used to work for Points and now has his own company... You can't call them lawyers, so paralegal. It sounds fancier than it really is....
Mazda3X2
04-27-2009, 02:30 PM
You said that he won %95 of your cases, what is %95 of 2 tickets then? :chuckle
When you use a number like winning %95 it certainly assumes more than 2 tickets were compared to obtain such a result. Then you could only say one of three outcomes, 0, 50, or %100
I guess I read too much into it. Did you take the actual picture in your avatar? :chuckle
Got two quotes today from two different paralegals. They both said its not worth it to fight. If I do fight it the officer will very well have it re enstated to the original speed. Kitchener's time to court is roughly 8 months so really I have nothing to fight on. The worst part about going to court is that if they take away the reduction we'd have to fight and plead guilt to the original amount.
S.F.W.
04-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Dave, here are the links I was referring to earlier:
http://www.magma.ca/~fyst/
http://www.highwaytrafficagents.com/tickets.html
I still say fight it, just do it yourself.
You said that he won %95 of your cases, what is %95 of 2 tickets then? :chuckle
When you use a number like winning %95 it certainly assumes more than 2 tickets were compared to obtain such a result. Then you could only say one of three outcomes, 0, 50, or %100
I guess I read too much into it. Did you take the actual picture in your avatar? :chuckle
95% of statistics have no basis ;) He hasn't won 100% of my cases, but has done a great job. I was once pulled over on the DVP for moving along with everyone else at 110 km/h... The reason I was singled out was because I blew a fuse that evening and my tail lights were out AND my interior lighting was out... So I couldn't see my speed. As I was driving withh everyone, I saw the cop moving with us and I had to wait for the street light to illuminate my speedometer... To see my speed... And because of that, I went right up to the white lane marker (but never crossed it --- In fact, I didn't even realize I did it... and looking back I'm wondering if I even did.. lol)... Anyways, cop pulls me over and hands me 4 tickets (Even though I was nice and respectful, etc etc). 1) Speeding, 110 in a 90 2) A ticket having to do with my tail lights (Not sure what it was exactly, it was years ago) 3) Failing to stay within marked lane (See above) and when he comes back to my car and I explain that a fuse popped --- he tells me to put on my hazard lights... I couldn't, and he says "Oh, that's another ticket"... total prick. Comes back with the only ticket he could find I Guess, 4) Not having my license plate lit up...
I found out later from my ticket guy that cops do that to ensure that the speeding ticket stays... and sure enough it did... All 3 got thrown out but I got dinged for the speeding ticket. :/ Hence not having a 100% success rate...
Regarding my avatar, I took that in my drive way ;) Parked on my drive way... I used the calibration method to get the speedometer to go that high. The reason I zoomed in on the speedo is because my tach reads 0 :)
Got two quotes today from two different paralegals. They both said its not worth it to fight. If I do fight it the officer will very well have it re enstated to the original speed. Kitchener's time to court is roughly 8 months so really I have nothing to fight on. The worst part about going to court is that if they take away the reduction we'd have to fight and plead guilt to the original amount.
Sorry, I didn't realize it was in Kitchener. Getting a ticket in Toronto, you're almost guaranteed to be let off with a decent paralegeal. Fighting it anywhere outside of a busy court system and you are almost certainly going to lose.
The only thing you can do is NOT pay a paralegal (Save yourself the $250-300) and go yourself and plead guilty with an excuse and hope they reduce it... It's worth it, nothing to lose. They usually ask you before hand how you plan to plead and you just tell them you wish to plead guilty with an excuse...
shootemup
04-30-2009, 09:06 PM
Got two quotes today from two different paralegals. They both said its not worth it to fight. If I do fight it the officer will very well have it re enstated to the original speed. Kitchener's time to court is roughly 8 months so really I have nothing to fight on. The worst part about going to court is that if they take away the reduction we'd have to fight and plead guilt to the original amount.
Depends on the paralegal. The ones that claim they will win or it's free will not take it, because they bill you based on the amount over you were going. Also, reductions count as a win in their books, and there is no option to reduce that fine anymore.
Look up a paralegal that just charges you one fee, and are there to help you, not scam you. I used a company called roadwarriors and they were great. I had gotten 3 tickets within the year, all minor, but still... I know, not good. They got two dropped and one changed to a "disobey sign" charge. I was very happy with their services. The $350 cost is a lot cheaper that the thousands more youll pay on insurance over the next 3 years.
Sparcas
05-02-2009, 10:01 PM
The insurance companies can see any of the tickets for the past 3 years.
ANY offense where the Speeding is < 49Km over the speed limit will affect your insurance rates. Even if there's no points.
Well technically, any offense will show up on your insurance. Some insurance companies don't check every year...but if you're under 25, i believe they do.
Two most common pieces of advice i would give is
1) Motion for a trial date change: This is done because the officer's trial date is set with a number of other trials on the same day. Changing the date may conflict with his schedule, thus the court will dismiss the trial
2) Take it to court regardless. Even if you take it to court and the officer shows up, you can still plead guilty and pay the fine. It just gives you more time to pay. AND There's no harm in fighting it either because it wasn't reduced. The prosecutor can't jack up offense to the original unreduced offense (Which they like to do sometimes)
Good luck.
I have a lot of experiences with speeding tickets/noisey mufflers/fail to provide insurance papers, etc. lol
kLuMzi
05-05-2009, 09:51 AM
wow, i got my first speeding ticket this morning. I got off from 427 and took East Mall to get to Dundas.. It was my first time driving there and i know Dundas is 60km/h zone..
So i was pulled over in east mall for "61km/h on a 50km/h zone". that is what's stated on the ticket.. Fine is $103.75!
question is, this wont cost me points right? and is it worth fighting?? and if I win the case, this ticket wont show on my record, insurance??
I'm paying 3300/yr for insurance already.. Yes insurance companies hate immigrants, rip off!! and I don't want to pay more than that :bang
thanks
Thrizzl3
05-05-2009, 09:55 AM
11 over? they pulled u over wtf
11 over? they pulled u over wtf
He was probaly going a little faster then 11km over the limit..the cop probaly gave him a breack by giving him a ticket for only 11km over....how many cops do you see to pull over someone for only 11km over?
kLuMzi
05-05-2009, 10:18 AM
11 over? they pulled u over wtf
yea sucks!! and i was like :) thanks officer! have a good day!
:bang i hate first time!!
He was probaly going a little faster then 11km over the limit..the cop probaly gave him a breack by giving him a ticket for only 11km over....how many cops do you see to pull over someone for only 11km over?
he mentioned i was going 61 on a 40.. but on the ticket he wrote 61 on a 50.. I'll check the correct speed limit tomorrow.. that's gona be my daily route anyway
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