2010 headlight lens melting/frosted

[sube]

Today I went to install LED DRLs to head off the headlight frosting, I have a 2010 GT hatch with only 16700 Kilometers on the ODO. Unfortunately I noticed that I have some frosting already on the passenger headlight, so I will be at the dealers first thing Monday. The frosting is not too too bad but it is there.

Pat.

[TheMAN]

put the stock bulbs back in before you bring it in... they will use any reason to deny free replacement

[Booter22]

put the stock bulbs back in before you bring it in... they will use any reason to deny free replacement

or they may switch the lights over, as we know its a problem already and people with half a brain would know leds wouldnt cause the haze.. but to save any fight.. lol yea switch them over

[sube]

put the stock bulbs back in before you bring it in... they will use any reason to deny free replacement
Oh yeah I already thought of that, no worries though the service manager looked at it and said no problem we will order a headlamp and call when it comes.

Pat.

[sube]

or they may switch the lights over, as we know its a problem already and people with half a brain would know leds wouldnt cause the haze.. but to save any fight.. lol yea switch them over

In the daylight I thought the frosting wasn't too bad, but when they brought the car into the service area to have a look it was really worse than I originally thought.

Pat.

[sube]

Appointment set up for next week to replace the headlamp.

Pat.

[sube]

Well I was really surprised today. Mazda was apparently Proactive and replaced both my headlamps, even though I was only showing problems on the passenger headlamp. I went ahead and put the LED bulbs in the DRLs so hopefully that problem is permanently eliminated.

Pat.

[TayTay]

Good for your dealer being proactive.

My dealer (from past posts) told me the next round of replacement of the replacement will not be covered as my warranty just finished a few weeks ago. I will need to put on my battle gears to fight with Mazda Canada.



Well I was really surprised today. Mazda was apparently Proactive and replaced both my headlamps, even though I was only showing problems on the passenger headlamp. I went ahead and put the LED bulbs in the DRLs so hopefully that problem is permanently eliminated.

Pat.

[Booter22]

Good for your dealer being proactive.

My dealer (from past posts) told me the next round of replacement of the replacement will not be covered as my warranty just finished a few weeks ago. I will need to put on my battle gears to fight with Mazda Canada.

and i like ive said to you in past posts that hopefully shouldnt happen. however if it is outside of warranty the dealer should go to bat for you if you need another replaced if you are shortly out of warranty. but if your 10,000 km plus. sadly not much the dealer can authorize unless of course they put in an after warranty request. but if thats denied then it would be you calling mazda canada and fingers crossed that wouldnt happen or need to get there

[captobvious75]

One of mine are getting replaced as well

[Alex Kurdian]

Hi Guys guess what
I bought my new skyactiv 10,000km ago and I am now noticing inside of the headlamps there is like a "clouding" or "Frosting" starting to appear in places...Kinda like what was said earlier...you get a piece of clear plastic and started twisting it, and you will notice the plastic turning white...this is what its starting to look like in some small places inside the headlamp??? one is messy on the bottom and the other light is near the top ....one of them look like someone touched them inside the headlamp and smudged it....I will see Mazda about it and they should just replace them as it is not condensation..I guarantee it...WTF is causing this?

[TheMAN]

too much heat!

[M3_Bernard]

Hi Guys guess what
I bought my new skyactiv 10,000km ago and I am now noticing inside of the headlamps there is like a "clouding" or "Frosting" starting to appear in places...Kinda like what was said earlier...you get a piece of clear plastic and started twisting it, and you will notice the plastic turning white...this is what its starting to look like in some small places inside the headlamp??? one is messy on the bottom and the other light is near the top ....one of them look like someone touched them inside the headlamp and smudged it....I will see Mazda about it and they should just replace them as it is not condensation..I guarantee it...WTF is causing this?

I thought this issue was isolated with the GT models? Should I be watching out for my 2013 Skyactiv too?

[Booter22]

I thought this issue was isolated with the GT models? Should I be watching out for my 2013 Skyactiv too?

it was only the GT'S that did have the issue, the 2010-2011s mostly.

Alex Kurdian, can you post a picture of what your headlamps look like?

[runner2k]

I have noticed the same issue on my MS3 2010...

[Booter22]

I have noticed the same issue on my MS3 2010...

2010 is common, 2011 a little less, and 2012 should be at all. but make sure to get in as the lamps are only covered under 3years / 80,000 km. unless the vehicle falls into

RC-09-09 - 2010 MAZDA3 - DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS RECALL CAMPAIGN 5609G

[runner2k]

They are replacing the headlamp. Not the lamp right?

So then, I will eventually run into the same issue again if I continue using the same lamp...?


Should I get the DRL bulb replaced?




Yes that is why on most affected vehicles an inline resistor is added in and the drl bulbs are changed from osram to phillips bulbs like i stated earlier. I have taken a fogged up housing apart before and yes it is the drl bulb

[Booter22]

They are replacing the headlamp. Not the lamp right?

So then, I will eventually run into the same issue again if I continue using the same lamp...?

So then I need to replace the DRL ?

the recall is for the "DRL" but by the time it gets to need what the recall needs the headlamps needs to be replaced due to hazing. but those are covered for 3 years 80k. unless approved by a dealer rep for replacemeber after 3 year 80k as the recall doesnt include them in the replacement parts list. :bang which makes no sense to me

[Alex Kurdian]

guys I tried taking a photo but it can only be seen on certain angles & the camera isn't picking it up...I looks like there is milky liquid inside the headlamp but its not liquid its bizarre ??

[TayTay]

exactly what I had (on both)

Excess heat built up inside causing the plastic to haze over (so-to-speak).




guys I tried taking a photo but it can only be seen on certain angles & the camera isn't picking it up...I looks like there is milky liquid inside the headlamp but its not liquid its bizarre ??

[Alex Kurdian]

exactly what I had (on both)

Excess heat built up inside causing the plastic to haze over (so-to-speak).



So what caused this dodgy plastic lens?

I hope mazda swap them out cause I love this car and the lights are pissing me off cause I want my car MINT clean

[TayTay]

known issue from day 1.

the drl is running without resistor and basically heats up and over time, the excess heat built up that is trapped inside and began to haze over inside the headlight cover.

If your warranty is not up, Mazda Canada will replace the entire headlight assembly. If not under warranty, you will have to fight with Mazda Canada and your dealer.



So what caused this dodgy plastic lens?

I hope mazda swap them out cause I love this car and the lights are pissing me off cause I want my car MINT clean

[Booter22]

known issue from day 1.

the drl is running without resistor and basically heats up and over time, the excess heat built up that is trapped inside and began to haze over inside the headlight cover.

If your warranty is not up, Mazda Canada will replace the entire headlight assembly. If not under warranty, you will have to fight with Mazda Canada and your dealer.

Maybe not day one. But at least 6 months in. Lol but alex has a gs sky. It doesnt come with hids. He has installed them. But the sky lens assemblies are not effect or not included I the recall like the gt and speed lights were. I still would really like to see a picture of what your talking about. Even take a picture and circle the highlighted area of concern if its hard to see. Technically alex shouldnt be having a problem and I havent had any other vehciles with fogging or hazing in the lights that wasnta gt or speed. Less my gfs car thag had water inthe lamps, but again a different story.

Alex post a pic I want to see what your talking about even if it's hard to see in the picture. Circle it or add an arrow.

[Alex Kurdian]

Maybe not day one. But at least 6 months in. Lol but alex has a gs sky. It doesnt come with hids. He has installed them. But the sky lens assemblies are not effect or not included I the recall like the gt and speed lights were. I still would really like to see a picture of what your talking about. Even take a picture and circle the highlighted area of concern if its hard to see. Technically alex shouldnt be having a problem and I havent had any other vehciles with fogging or hazing in the lights that wasnta gt or speed. Less my gfs car thag had water inthe lamps, but again a different story.

Alex post a pic I want to see what your talking about even if it's hard to see in the picture. Circle it or add an arrow.

Ok mate I will try...also my lights are Bi Xenon white light...they are bright as hell...is that the same as HID?

Inside the light it is getting worse on one of them...its as if a oily liquid is slowly oozing across the lens....and you can only see it on certain angles...bizzaro!

[Alex Kurdian]

known issue from day 1.

the drl is running without resistor and basically heats up and over time, the excess heat built up that is trapped inside and began to haze over inside the headlight cover.

If your warranty is not up, Mazda Canada will replace the entire headlight assembly. If not under warranty, you will have to fight with Mazda Canada and your dealer.

mate the car was bought new and only has 10k on her...and ohhh:P I'm living in Australia so I will take it up with them :chuckle

[Booter22]

Ok mate I will try...also my lights are Bi Xenon white light...they are bright as hell...is that the same as HID?

Inside the light it is getting worse on one of them...its as if a oily liquid is slowly oozing across the lens....and you can only see it on certain angles...bizzaro!

so you have installed an HID kit, bulbs, ballastas and relays and so on. only thing i can think they might be too hot, but again its all guess work with out a picture.

[Alex Kurdian]

so you have installed an HID kit, bulbs, ballastas and relays and so on. only thing i can think they might be too hot, but again its all guess work with out a picture.

mate the lights came with the car no mods here as you can see its very hard to capture but look closely I highlighted it in red enlarge the area and U can make it out JUST!

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/28/34/16138243_large.jpg

[McGuyver_3]

mate the lights came with the car no mods here as you can see its very hard to capture but look closely I highlighted it in red enlarge the area and U can make it out JUST!

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/28/34/16138243_large.jpg

somewhat unrelated but those headlights look rather nice. I wouldnt mind seeing the rest of them

[Booter22]

I dont see anything wrong. Just wait to see if it gets worse. Or if the dealer there will replace them then go for it.

[Alex Kurdian]

mate the lights came with the car no mods here as you can see its very hard to capture but look closely I highlighted it in red enlarge the area and U can make it out JUST!

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/28/35/16138253_large.jpg

U can just make it out

[Alex Kurdian]

the better pic
http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/28/35/16138253_large.jpg

[Alex Kurdian]

ok guys now you can see it clear as day took a couple of photos when the sun was right on it....and its not condensation

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/48/12/16138421_large.jpg

http://carphotos3.cardomain.com/images/0016/48/81/16138418_large.jpg

[Booter22]

ok guys now you can see it clear as day took a couple of photos when the sun was right on it....and its not condensation

http://carphotos4.cardomain.com/images/0016/48/12/16138421_large.jpg

http://carphotos3.cardomain.com/images/0016/48/81/16138418_large.jpg

now i see it. yea not the same as the gt lights frosting. almost looks like it was moisture that has dried up and left a mark.

[Alex Kurdian]

odd thing though is that is is spreading?? but i never see water droplets or anything just that weird smudge

[Booter22]

odd thing though is that is is spreading?? but i never see water droplets or anything just that weird smudge

do you use a chemical to clean the lights? maybe it is effecting something. otherwise ive never seen something like that before.

[Alex Kurdian]

do you use a chemical to clean the lights? maybe it is effecting something. otherwise ive never seen something like that before.

Naa mate just soap and water

[Alex Kurdian]

ok UPDATE on my visit to mazda...my first service was completed...but the bunny brains tried to weasel out of my faulty headlamps...finally they agreed one was faulty and that a rep from Mazda Aust will need to take a look and assess ...the stealership did say most likely they will replace it however they said the frosting in the other lamp was minor and couldn't notice it as much...I freak and tell em BULLF**KING SHIT ur replacing both...so I will need to bring the car back for a rep to see for himself...freakin *******s...my eye is like an eagle and they try to question me...I will take this further to express my disgust!

[runner2k]

I will try to get mine replaced tomorrow.

[Lumberjack]

Okay I have gone through most of the thread and it doesn't appear that anyone has identified the problem. I have a neighbour with a 2010 that has the headlight problem and he showed me what Mazda did and it looks like they installed ceramic resistors inline (see orange block in picture) to take part of the load. They replaced one headlight assembly already but the other one is now "fogged". I am curious if this problem has been rectified with my 2012? Can anyone confirm?

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Here is the lense that needs to be replaced now.
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[Lumberjack]

here is the picture of the lense that still needs to be replaced

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[TayTay]

^ If you have read thru my past complaints in this thread, I had the same issue many times (on two different sides) and the latest swap was to have fix this issue completely. Anyway, I have no more warranty, if this happens again ... I would be totally pissed.

[Booter22]

the headlight assembly was changed for design and added vents to prevent the issue i do believe. so on vehicles 2011 + shouldnt have any issues at all. hard to say 100% with vehicles that have had the lamps replaced as i would hope they have the new design but it would be hard to say so.

[Lumberjack]

IMO they have to warranty the work they did. Put it this way if your engine blew up 1 day before the warranty expired and they fixed it the next day and you drove off the lot and it blew up again it would still be covered for X amount of days. They couldn't in good faith say "sorry, your warranty expired yesterday..."

It amazes me how many people simply take "no" for an answer and just walk away.


^ If you have read thru my past complaints in this thread, I had the same issue many times (on two different sides) and the latest swap was to have fix this issue completely. Anyway, I have no more warranty, if this happens again ... I would be totally pissed.

[Lumberjack]

The easiest way to determine if they changed the headlight assembly is to check the part numbers perhaps of the various years to see if they changed numbers?


the headlight assembly was changed for design and added vents to prevent the issue i do believe. so on vehicles 2011 + shouldnt have any issues at all. hard to say 100% with vehicles that have had the lamps replaced as i would hope they have the new design but it would be hard to say so.

[mazda3456]

If I were to open the lens, would I be able clean it from the inside? Would the film come off or is the lens permanently damaged?

[Canadianbacon]

If I were to open the lens, would I be able clean it from the inside? Would the film come off or is the lens permanently damaged?
Permanently damaged its the head light housing not the only lens. Dealership replaced my lens twice. I had to argue with them to replace the whole house headlight (cuz i had CS LED DRLs) they did no issues now.