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coursol
08-27-2009, 04:13 PM
was wondering if anyone know the cost or if it is possible to put oem hid in a 2010 mz3 gs. wife would really like to have them and i cannot justify buying the gt just for the lights. I was thinking of the after market stuff but after THEMANs words and how i feel when i see those headlights comming i would rather the oem.

JonsMazda
08-27-2009, 04:16 PM
oem hid is at 4300k. You can check out our sponsors here that have hid kits.

McGuyver_3
08-27-2009, 04:46 PM
THEMAN is referring to headlights with the reflector style housing found on your average civic but since the mazda 3 has projectors which focus the light and create a proper cutoff you have no reason to not go aftermarket. The OEM headlights will cost you a bundle. Just for the headlight housing themselves i beleive both are around 3000$ correct me if i am wrong. Then you need the ballasts, igniters, bulbs, caps, sockets and regular bulbs. The last time i priced out a ballast they were around 400$a peice The ignitors not to sure bulbs caps and sockets will prolly run you another 60$+-. Just go aftermarket your car will be fine

coursol
08-27-2009, 05:09 PM
holly cow. (sorry i still live on a farm) cant believe its that expensive. thanks for such a quick response.

Nextmod
08-27-2009, 05:43 PM
we have the after market ones instock on special right now =)

and as long as you have projectors you will be fine =)

coursol
08-27-2009, 06:03 PM
how much include install. dang this cars costing me a fortune with all the stuff the wife is putting in it.

McGuyver_3
08-27-2009, 07:39 PM
how much include install. dang this cars costing me a fortune with all the stuff the wife is putting in it.
a happy wife=a happy you lol


holly cow. (sorry i still live on a farm) cant believe its that expensive. thanks for such a quick response.

no need to be sorry its all good

omalak
08-27-2009, 11:52 PM
go after market.. we havea bunch of sponsors here who can help you out..

check out Illumination Technique here on the boards, he sells good kits 18 months warranty too..

Nextmod also sells them

so does tuned2mod

install is a peice of cake everything is plug and play on the 2010 you doont even need a relay kit. all you need to do is switch out the bulbs, and find a place for your ignitors and ballasts, just tape them anywhere inthe engine bay that is sturdy.

:) go 6000k your wife will love it

Fuman
08-28-2009, 09:24 AM
coursol, stick with a HID bulb colour near 4300K, and you won't be blinding people (assuming you have aimmed your head lights properly).

JSI
08-28-2009, 09:39 AM
4300k ftw!!

McGuyver_3
08-28-2009, 11:25 AM
Again you will not blind anyone with the mazda as it has projectors already creating a proper cutoff aiming the light. No need to adjust the headlights either as all you are doing is changing the bulb and as long as it sits properly it will NOT make a difference stop trying to scare him with this aiming and blinding thing. The colour temperature doesn't have anything to do with it either it is about personal taste and legality. 4300 you will be able to see the most with. 6000k you will see a little less but it will light up the road with a blue tinge and personally I like it a lot. The real part he should worry about blinding people is if he puts hids in his fogs that's when you will blkind people they hav e regular reflectors instead of projectiors

Fuman
08-28-2009, 11:59 AM
Again you will not blind anyone with the mazda as it has projectors already creating a proper cutoff aiming the light. No need to adjust the headlights either as all you are doing is changing the bulb and as long as it sits properly it will NOT make a difference stop trying to scare him with this aiming and blinding thing. The colour temperature doesn't have anything to do with it either it is about personal taste and legality. 4300 you will be able to see the most with. 6000k you will see a little less but it will light up the road with a blue tinge and personally I like it a lot. The real part he should worry about blinding people is if he puts hids in his fogs that's when you will blkind people they hav e regular reflectors instead of projectiors

The amount of bending that is done by the projector is wavelength dependent, meaning colour temperature dependent.
similar idea as: http://www.astronomynotes.com/telescop/s2.htm
Hence, HID projectors have cleaner cut off than Halogen Projectors.

x_o_k_x
08-28-2009, 01:25 PM
I have lots of 4300k in stock

TheMAN
08-28-2009, 04:15 PM
I'm not going to argue about OEM vs aftermarket again... what I said before still stands, projectors or not... yes it's true projectors work better and many people have no issues, but it is still not 100% safe... not to mention the aftermarket stuff can void the warranty on your car


ANYWAY, there's another justification for the OEM setup... the 2010s now have an auto leveling system that means you can load the trunk full of manure and the headlights will automatically aim down correctly without blinding anyone... with the older 3s, you had to deal with pissing people off with aftermarket HIDs or flip the switch down on the dashboard in the OEM setup because it was manual leveling

I'm not sure about side to side aiming also when you turn the steering wheel on the halogen setup, but it is DEFINITELY there on the OEM HID setup... so not only does the headlights go up and down based on what you got in the car and whether you're on a hill, but it also follows where you turn up to a certain extent

to me, the extra cost of buying the more expensive model is justified considering what the OEM HIDs can do and what the lights themselves cost!

McGuyver_3
08-28-2009, 09:41 PM
The amount of bending that is done by the projector is wavelength dependent, meaning colour temperature dependent.
similar idea as: http://www.astronomynotes.com/telescop/s2.htm
Hence, HID projectors have cleaner cut off than Halogen Projectors.

I am not debating that the hid projectors will have a cleaner cutoff then halogen projectors i am debating that with a reflector style headlight found on your common civic or the mazdas highbeam you would blind people with hid's but since we use projectors there is no need to worry


I'm not going to argue about OEM vs aftermarket again... what I said before still stands, projectors or not... yes it's true projectors work better and many people have no issues, but it is still not 100% safe... not to mention the aftermarket stuff can void the warranty on your car


ANYWAY, there's another justification for the OEM setup... the 2010s now have an auto leveling system that means you can load the trunk full of manure and the headlights will automatically aim down correctly without blinding anyone... with the older 3s, you had to deal with pissing people off with aftermarket HIDs or flip the switch down on the dashboard in the OEM setup because it was manual leveling

I'm not sure about side to side aiming also when you turn the steering wheel on the halogen setup, but it is DEFINITELY there on the OEM HID setup... so not only does the headlights go up and down based on what you got in the car and whether you're on a hill, but it also follows where you turn up to a certain extent

to me, the extra cost of buying the more expensive model is justified considering what the OEM HIDs can do and what the lights themselves cost!

My 2010 has the OEM xenons and i was aware of what i was buying and why i was buying it as myt previous 3 i retrofitted the oem xenons with the leveling motors. Cost me a bundle but everything was 100% functional yes even the leveling motors and i have proof of that. You say that the HID's will blind people if not tilted downwards when your trunk is full BUT you are forgetting even the halogen lights will blind people silly Hell the SUV's out there are brutal because they are so high xenons or not so either way you can blind people doesnt matter what you have

stas
08-28-2009, 09:52 PM
McGuyver is right, just aim your headlights and you'll be fine. even on my rsx i had 8000k hid but after aiming i wasn't getting any middle fingers anymore (rsx doesnt come with projector headlights). many stock cars with projectors are running around with unaimed headlights, thus blinding people. even if you have projectors everytime you change your bulbs you need to check the aiming.

ps. McGuyver like the quote in the signature

Fuman
08-28-2009, 10:29 PM
I am not debating that the hid projectors will have a cleaner cutoff then halogen projectors i am debating that with a reflector style headlight found on your common civic or the mazdas highbeam you would blind people with hid's but since we use projectors there is no need to worry

I am saying, the colour temperature does matter. The bigger difference in colour temperature compared to the stock value, the more scattered the light rays will be, even with projectors. Projectors does minimize this, but it doesn't solve it.

McGuyver_3
08-28-2009, 10:54 PM
OK i understand that you are saying that but i dont aggree with you on this because i personally have had stock 4300k went to 6000k and then went to 8000k and i never had a problem with either one of the colour temperatures as i never got any sort of common flip of the bird or highbeams or honking for having to bright of a light on my car

coursol
08-31-2009, 01:13 PM
Well if i had known this was such a hot topic i would not have said anything. i am having the kit installed in a month or two will take my camera and tripod and video camera and we can maybe get some real evidence so people like me can make a some kind of informed decission. and judge how mcguyver work is. lol. as for the leveling thingy. i will just sit in the trunk 300lbs i think is more then enough for the car to handdle. lol. i appreciate all the input. just to put theman mind at rest i live in sarnia ontario no were near you. lol

TheMAN
08-31-2009, 04:17 PM
the OEM HID headlights also have a separate H8 DRL bulb where the high beam light would be in the halogen setup

the OEM HIDs are bixenon... you just can't make the retrofitted halogen lights work similarly/same as the OEM setup like you could in the 1st gen!

McGuyver_3
08-31-2009, 09:20 PM
Yeah everything 07 and up they made it really simple to retrofit HID's

jjwhoa
09-09-2009, 10:00 AM
Go for the 6000k or the 8000k the looks are much nicer than the stock color. Anything more than the 8000k and its to blue. Just aim them downwards and you're good

http://www.oznium.com/images/hid_photos_compare.jpg

TheMAN
09-12-2009, 01:19 AM
only ricers get 6000+
it'll be so blue you can't see a damn thing!
stick to 5000k or lower please!

b
09-12-2009, 01:21 AM
only ricers get 6000+
it'll be so blue you can't see a damn thing!
stick to 5000k or lower please!

Most people on here have 6000k.

McGuyver_3
09-12-2009, 11:42 AM
only ricers get 6000+
it'll be so blue you can't see a damn thing!
stick to 5000k or lower please!

please get your story straight 8000k is actual blue 6000k is a tinge of white and blue mixed in which imo is the nicest colour

S.F.W.
09-12-2009, 11:48 AM
please get your story straight 8000k is actual blue 6000k is a tinge of white and blue mixed in which imo is the nicest colour

agreed. I have run 4300K, 5000K, and 6000K. The 6000K had a very small bit of blue.