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Roche
11-26-2009, 03:16 PM
I got hit by a *@#?$*& pickup truck at a 4-way stop.:flaming The guy ran into me, just like that.:bang Anyway, the rear bumper and quater panel are gone. I don't know what else, it's hard to tell. Does anyone know a good place to get it fixed? The car is brand new, it's a 2010 MZ3 Sport, so I want to have it repaired properly with OE parts. I'm looking for a place either around Ajax or Don Mills/Sheppard.

Thanks

MPS
11-26-2009, 03:18 PM
streetperformance
give Jimmy a call 416-450-6161

towelsnap
11-26-2009, 03:20 PM
So you were stopped and he just didn't stop? Any ideas of speed (at the time of impact)? Where you pushed into the intersection? Your not at fault I'd assume. Sorry to hear...

S.F.W.
11-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I'm looking for a place either around Ajax or Don Mills/Sheppard.

Thanks

Agincourt Mazda has an in house body shop.

Roche
11-26-2009, 03:32 PM
I did my stop as the 3 other cars. I was the third to go but got cut by the fourth car so I stopped (I was engaged). Then I went after him and that other guy who must have been the 5th or 6th ran into me as I was exiting the intersection. I have no idea if he stopped or no. I saw him just a split second before he hit me. The bad news is that I talked to my insurance and they told me that it'll likely be 50/50 because it's a 4-way stop. Gotta see what the "expert" will say about that though.
I think I'm going to call Agincourt because it's on my way.

Sales 101
11-26-2009, 06:15 PM
Did you call the police? bumper and quarter is over a grand$$. Police on site would have determined fault and put in report. That being said usually if you are hit from behind that person is always responsible. be aware of your surroundings following to close etc. Take it to a dealer shop like agan so you get a proper repair warranty. good luck

Sales 101
11-26-2009, 06:17 PM
here is a link for you to all read..

www.fsco.gov.on.ca/english/pubs/.../brochures-1.pdf

Sales 101
11-26-2009, 06:21 PM
ooopppssss...sorry try this.

http://www.fsco.gov.on.ca/english/pubs/consumerbrochures/brochures-1.pdf

Roche
11-26-2009, 06:38 PM
We called the police (Durham region as it happened in Ajax), but we were told that they don't come anymore and we rather have to drive the car to a collision report center. Thanks to all for the quick replies, I really appreciate. I ended up going to Agincourt and I should hear back from them monday or tuesday. I think it's going to be a significant repair because the quarter panel run all the way up to the front wheel, above and below the doors. That, plus the rear bumper, the rear light, all the plastics, etc. And I'm not sure if the hatch was touched or not. I couldn't open it. I took pictures which I'm going to try to post later on. For now I'm just gonna grab a bite to eat as I skipped lunch because of all this!

Roche
11-26-2009, 07:06 PM
Pictures:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/r_rochette/Accident/DSC03791.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/r_rochette/Accident/DSC03792.jpg

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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/r_rochette/Accident/DSC03797.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/r_rochette/Accident/DSC03796.jpg

Hives
11-26-2009, 07:30 PM
Thats going to cost $$$$

From the looks of it, I don't think he stopped. Is there rear suspension damage?

Fuman
11-26-2009, 07:35 PM
wow he hit you pretty hard.
glad you are okay

optiklenz13
11-26-2009, 07:58 PM
ouch!!! that sucks to hear man.. hope it all goes well.

She_Prime
11-26-2009, 08:12 PM
Wow what rotten luck. Hope everything goes well with the repair. (I have been in my fair share of accidents as many of the forum members know) so I know it's hard to see the car get hurt.

Most important thing is you're ok. Cars can be replaced but people can't.

aris
11-26-2009, 08:28 PM
That's alot of damage..hopefully they fix it right

Good luck

Manpreet
11-26-2009, 08:35 PM
hope ur okay, but damn that was a nasty hit:whoa

Roche
11-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Yeah I guess the good thing is that I'm okay. I don't know for sure if the suspension was touched or not, but it seemed to drive fine. I wonder if the gas tank will need to get fixed though. By the looks of it, the filler neck might have been bent/crushed. I can't wait to see how it's going to get fixed. I just hope that they can bring the car back to its original state. I'm a bit worried because when I drove the car to Agincourt there were some strange sounds coming out of different panels inside the car. I would hate to have creeks and what-nots to remind me of the crash every time I drive it.

MajesticBlueNTO
11-26-2009, 10:03 PM
Hopefully the OP is alright as that looks like a significant impact.


Did you call the police? bumper and quarter is over a grand$$. Police on site would have determined fault and put in report. That being said usually if you are hit from behind that person is always responsible. be aware of your surroundings following to close etc. Take it to a dealer shop like agan so you get a proper repair warranty. good luck

police don't determine fault from an insurance perspective. if they show up, they may take statements from each driver and file a report which will assist insurance in determining fault.

Insurance companies use Fault Determination Rules (http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_900668_e.htm) to assign fault.

in this case, since it was at an all-way stop, these are the applicable scenarios (hopefully the OP has a witness(es) so that 50/50 isn't ruled):

14. (1) This section applies with respect to an incident that occurs at an intersection with traffic signs. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (1).

(2) If the incident occurs when the driver of automobile “B” fails to obey a stop sign, yield sign or a similar sign or flares or other signals on the ground, the driver of automobile “A” is not at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (2).

(3) If the driver of each automobile fails to obey a stop sign, the driver of each automobile is 50 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (3).

(4) If it cannot be established who failed to obey a stop sign, the driver of each automobile shall be deemed to be 50 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (4).

(5) If, at an all-way stop intersection, automobile “A” arrives at the intersection first and stops, the driver of automobile “A” is not at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (5).

(6) If, at an all-way stop intersection, both automobiles arrive at the intersection at the same time and stop, with automobile “A” to the right of automobile “B”, the driver of automobile “A” is not at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (6).

(7) If it cannot be established who arrived at the all-way stop intersection first, the driver of each automobile shall be deemed to be 50 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (7).

distr0
11-27-2009, 08:55 AM
wow...that poor brand new car! hope everything works out for ya...were there any witnesses?

seelsy
11-27-2009, 09:06 AM
my brand new car got rear ended at a stop light within a month of owning it. Might as well stick a sign in the back window saying brand new car come hit me! People just seem to always find the brand new car. Hope the repairs go well, mine was returned to factory state, hope u have the same experience. Sounds like its definitely his fault 100% though.

ds2chan
11-27-2009, 02:37 PM
damn.. sorry to hear.. I hope everything works out for you.. that was painful to just look at the pictures..

mazdaskit
11-27-2009, 02:43 PM
dam sorry to hear that... I hope they fix it like new again.. are you charging him or anything from the hit?

towelsnap
11-27-2009, 02:48 PM
wow he hit you pretty hard.
glad you are okay

+1 ..... ;( I hope everything works out and I'm truely sorry this happened to you

Roche
11-27-2009, 04:06 PM
(5) If, at an all-way stop intersection, automobile “A” arrives at the intersection first and stops, the driver of automobile “A” is not at fault and the driver of automobile “B” is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 14 (5).

That is encouraging as it's what should apply in my opinion. I don't know what the other guy is claiming though. I wouldn't be surprise that he made up some story putting the fault on me. :blah


were there any witnesses?

there were at least 5 other cars at the intersection when it happened, but everyone drove away. It was noon so I guess everyone's lunch was much more important :whoa


dam sorry to hear that... I hope they fix it like new again.. are you charging him or anything from the hit?

I hope they fix it like new too! But the more I look at the pictures, the more I doubt it'll come back as new. As for charging him I don't know. It's the first time I get into an accident and I'm not familiar with Ontario's laws on this matter. Can you give me more details?

jaimie08mazda3
11-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Unfortunately nothing much you can do man. My car back last December was hit at Stone Road Mall in Guelph, and the guy left. I assume the guy was drifting around and smashed it and was like oh shit and left. Either way it sucks and well my damage cost about 4k. It was the front bumper, front fender, airbox and they fixed my frame from a previous accident (insurance company thought it was part of my accident.) It sucks but unfortunately it happens and you just have to suffer. Good luck man, sucks when your car is new and you get an accident. Everyone here knows that I have not had good luck with people hitting me.

Roche
11-30-2009, 06:04 PM
I talked to the adjuster that is in charge of my claim today. He wanted to discuss the details of the accident as the other party is claiming that I did not stop at the intersection and that the fault is 100% on me. You have no idea how pissed I was to hear that, even though I was expecting it. :flaming So I gave him my version of what happened and he said that, based on my explanations and the location of the impact on my car, he is confident that I am not responsible. He will review the case, police report, etc, but he told me that I will have no responsability and I won't have to pay my deductible. Now that is quite a relief and I can't wait to see that written down on paper. Next step is my insurance will send an estimator to Agincourt within the next two days. Stay tuned...

CFX
11-30-2009, 06:21 PM
Unbelievable! Glad to hear you're alright though.
As for the damage, I'd personally have it done at a Mazda Dealership. However, go around to three or five different body shops first and gather some written quotes. Then go to whichever dealership you feel most comfortable with, normally where you acquired your car, and have them fix it at the lowest quote. This way you know it's going to get fixed with OEM parts, guaranteed.

M3-ZOOM
11-30-2009, 06:54 PM
Wow the car who hit you did NOT stop thats for sure. Thats some intense damage. Good luck with the repairs!

Roche
12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
I am still waiting to hear back from the insurance and from Agincourt about the repairs. So in the meantime I have another MZ3 as a rental. It's a 2009 sedan, base model with automatic tranny. Given it has close to 60K on it, this car is scary! :whoa I've never driven something quite like that. It drives like crap and it smells just about the same (that, plus an overwhelming touch of lemon an jasmin hanging from the mirror). Asides from all the noises and the loud "clunk" coming from the rear suspension when I turn left, the chassis feels completely disconnected from the wheels. When I go over a bump, the car starts bouncing with some roll, pitch and, yes, yaw motion! That's the scariest part I think. The car is going in straight line, but the chassis itself has a yaw motion. It feels kinda like driving in mario kart.:loco I really miss my car right now...

DualSoul
12-02-2009, 12:48 PM
Those pics made me cry on the inside... originally wanted that colour too. Hope things work out in your favour.


He wanted to discuss the details of the accident as the other party is claiming that I did not stop at the intersection and that the fault is 100% on me.

Not sure how he'd hit you that hard if you were the one that ran the intersection. Also, shouldn't he be the one that was sideswiped...
The nerve of some people. :flaming

Broxn
12-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Looks like a new car for you bro!:winner
LOL..Wondered why I didnt see it at work,... (not that its funny)
Good luck with those adjuster guys...

GSXi
12-02-2009, 10:44 PM
ouch.

hope everything gets fixed up fast.

Roche
12-12-2009, 12:27 PM
It's been over 2 weeks now... here's an update. I was hoping my car would be written-off, but it's not. It is getting fixed and the whole job amounts to about 6500$ right now. Amongst other things, they're replacing the quarter panel, rear light, bumper cover, upper suspension arm, wheel hub, wheel, etc. It's not too clear what they're going to do about the tailgate yet. It looks like they haven't noticed it was shifted. I went to see my car yesterday, it was completely stripped and they were replacing the quarter panel. The bumper cover is still B/O and they don't even have a date for it yet. Hopefully they can get it early next week and finish the car by the end of the week because I'm going back in my family on the 20th for whole christmas break. I must say that the customer service at Agincourt has been excellent so far.

RBoy8
12-12-2009, 03:49 PM
Good to read that everything is going smoothly so far. Judging by what they have and may also have to do I dunno if you'd get your car back by next week but make sure they don't rush it.

As much as it may be nice to get the car back quickly, you also gotta make sure they take their time and do everything as nice as possible.

I used to work at Acura 2000 in the detailing area and it amazed me to see how many hack jobs they'd let out. They'd do poor jobs like mismatched paint and be quickly done with it. There was once instance where the body shop guys couldn't get the rear bumper colour to match up but the customer took it anyways cause they really wanted it back :loco. Ugh Acura 2000...

blankets3
12-12-2009, 07:59 PM
dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyymn id be pissed off!

Fuman
12-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I talked to the adjuster that is in charge of my claim today. He wanted to discuss the details of the accident as the other party is claiming that I did not stop at the intersection and that the fault is 100% on me. You have no idea how pissed I was to hear that, even though I was expecting it. :flaming So I gave him my version of what happened and he said that, based on my explanations and the location of the impact on my car, he is confident that I am not responsible. He will review the case, police report, etc, but he told me that I will have no responsability and I won't have to pay my deductible. Now that is quite a relief and I can't wait to see that written down on paper. Next step is my insurance will send an estimator to Agincourt within the next two days. Stay tuned...
any updates regarding insurance?

Roche
12-13-2009, 09:21 PM
Not much since then. Like the adjuster told me on the phone I'm not responsability and it is showing as such on my online account. After that, it took a few days for the estimator to show up at Agincourt to look at my car and I finally received the estimation a few day later (last week). Somehow I managed to get the full detailed estimation and I think I wasn't supposed to because I received another one a few days later showing only the final price. Oh well, I'm not going to complain about that! There's one thing I don't fully understand yet though. Last week I had a voice mail from the other guy's insurance company, but it cut after the name of the person, so I figured they would call me back, but they haven't. So I'm still wondering why they were calling me. I'm not going to chase them down...:whoa

Soyabean
12-13-2009, 09:25 PM
Good to hear everythings turning out for the better.

It must be fun to have a rental lol. Especially in the snow

Fuman
12-13-2009, 09:30 PM
Not much since then. Like the adjuster told me on the phone I'm not responsability and it is showing as such on my online account. After that, it took a few days for the estimator to show up at Agincourt to look at my car and I finally received the estimation a few day later (last week). Somehow I managed to get the full detailed estimation and I think I wasn't supposed to because I received another one a few days later showing only the final price. Oh well, I'm not going to complain about that! There's one thing I don't fully understand yet though. Last week I had a voice mail from the other guy's insurance company, but it cut after the name of the person, so I figured they would call me back, but they haven't. So I'm still wondering why they were calling me. I'm not going to chase them down...:whoa
not sure why they called you either. I haven't had the other person's insurance call me.
Its good to see the *******'s lie didn't screw you over

Roche
12-14-2009, 12:33 PM
As much as I want my car back, I certainly don't want them to rush the job either. Mismatched colors won't cut it with me... besides who would do that?! :loco

If I have to find another rental car I can drive home, does anyone know if there's a way to get winter tires? I know, it's a long shot... but last christmas I drove 800km in a snow storm to get back home. lol


Good to read that everything is going smoothly so far. Judging by what they have and may also have to do I dunno if you'd get your car back by next week but make sure they don't rush it.

As much as it may be nice to get the car back quickly, you also gotta make sure they take their time and do everything as nice as possible.

I used to work at Acura 2000 in the detailing area and it amazed me to see how many hack jobs they'd let out. They'd do poor jobs like mismatched paint and be quickly done with it. There was once instance where the body shop guys couldn't get the rear bumper colour to match up but the customer took it anyways cause they really wanted it back :loco. Ugh Acura 2000...

RBoy8
12-14-2009, 01:15 PM
As much as I want my car back, I certainly don't want them to rush the job either. Mismatched colors won't cut it with me... besides who would do that?! :loco

If I have to find another rental car I can drive home, does anyone know if there's a way to get winter tires? I know, it's a long shot... but last christmas I drove 800km in a snow storm to get back home. lol
Tell me about it! It wasn't only that too, stuff like really really bad swirls and runs in paint would try to be let go unless the customer complained about it. Ugh... one of the reasons why I chose not to work there anymore. lol

jaimie08mazda3
12-14-2009, 09:54 PM
Good luck with those adjuster guys...

THIS I DO NOT LIKE. My father is an insurance adjuster and its a hard job, try doing it:flaming. In fact he has explained to me on how to do it and how its stressful in figuring it out.. the insurance adjuster assesses the damages but in no way do they say that it is not worth that much. I think it sucks and that it is hard to judge how much the car would cost to fix but with labour and everything you run yourself easily 5-10k depending. Mine costed 4.5k. But don't be all like good luck with those adjuster guys. Anyhow good luck with the car and it will drive as perfectly as it did before the accident. I apologize to the OP for getting mad in his post but I did not like what was said.

Roche
01-05-2010, 12:50 PM
Bringing this thread back from the dead... I'm finally getting my car back tonight! :winner I can hardly believe it, it's been so long. I'll make sure when I get it that it is the colour it's supposed to be and that it has all four wheel! :chuckle But seriously, any advice on things I should look out for before I leave the dealer with my car?

RBoy8
01-05-2010, 12:54 PM
Congrats and good luck!

Make sure you look at the paint carefully, preferably under some light. Look for any paint runs, orange peel, over spray, or anything that bugs you and point it out.