View Full Version : Sponsors post pricing
rick@garage16.ca
12-12-2009, 10:51 AM
Well I had a few people msg me on this along with admins from the site.
Also seeing many members dislike the whole "PM for pricing" when a sponsor posts something for sale. I understand we "sponsors" dont wanna post less then retail but hey its only fair for the whole site and all members
I think all sponsors from TM3 should be posting pricing
whats your feed back?
S.F.W.
12-12-2009, 10:57 AM
I don't see TM3 mandating sponsors to post pricing for every item. If members are unhappy with a sponsor not posting prices, they can choose to purchase elsewhere. Once the sponsor notices they are not generating the interest they once were, they will start posting prices again.
stevenma188
12-12-2009, 11:00 AM
Well I totally understand the reason for not posting the price. This way, only club members can take advantage of the special prices. If the sponsor posted the price directly, non-club members can see it too.
Although it is a bit of a hassle, I would much rather PM the sponsor for an amazing price, versus paying a posted, higher price.
froggy
12-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Well I totally understand the reason for not posting the price. This way, only club members can take advantage of the special prices. If the sponsor posted the price directly, non-club members can see it too.
Although it is a bit of a hassle, I would much rather PM the sponsor for an amazing price, versus paying a posted, higher price.
same here big +1
I work part time in retail and I know the limitations, that suppliers can insist on such as MAP = Minimum advertised Price. The suppliers and original companies want to keep the niche and exclusivity of their products, and they also want to keep companies from having a public price drop war with their products
stormin84
12-12-2009, 11:25 AM
why doesn't the sponsor post up a retail price (like if you bought it elsewhere) and then we the members can pm the sponsor selling the item if they want it for the TM3 discounted price.
this way members know in advance if they can afford the item.
-RJ3-
12-12-2009, 11:30 AM
There are many sponsors who post pricing on the board but pm for special pricing should be applied only when they display their regular pricing.
an example is Supershyguy... I like how he performs pricing.. He shows the price he would sell it at, but he then states pm for special pricing.
Just noticed Stormin post right after clicking submit...
You read my mind LOL!
rick@garage16.ca
12-12-2009, 11:34 AM
do you guys get futureshop or best buy flyer in the mail?
How would you guys like to see the flyers with a nice 42" tv and a big red star next to it saying " SO CHEAP!!!! but Come in store for price" or having a whole flyer full of new tvs, laptops etc and no pricing on it?
I just think myself as a sponsor that we should all post pricing
-RJ3-
12-12-2009, 11:51 AM
do you guys get futureshop or best buy flyer in the mail?
How would you guys like to see the flyers with a nice 42" tv and a big red star next to it saying " SO CHEAP!!!! but Come in store for price" or having a whole flyer full of new tvs, laptops etc and no pricing on it?
I just think myself as a sponsor that we should all post pricing
Regular price.....
TM3 Special price.....
should be on posts ...
This is a question to all our sponsors... ( i will sound like an infomercial now)
How many of you get inindated with messages about how much is the product and if you can make it cheaper than any other member.
How many of you get inindated with messages after posting a special price on the thread and ask to get it cheaper.
If you answer a lot to both questions, then my concern is pointless.
I know customer service is a priority to all sponsors but for them to reply to every email takes a lot of time and to some they cannot reply because of their workload.
There should be a balance to both help the sponsor and customer / member on the sale. Theirs also exceptions to this rule but thats the sponsor to decide.
Bottom line post the price, and thats the price to use. Unless sponsors like getting the same question, post the special price which would decrease 100 messages a day. PMs to sponsors should be inquiry about the product, not special pricing.
stormin84
12-12-2009, 11:57 AM
how about this the sponsor section is locked just like the classified section so only Tm3 members can see the pricing.
STeeLy
12-12-2009, 12:30 PM
how about this the sponsor section is locked just like the classified section so only Tm3 members can see the pricing.
I thought the whole classified section was Members only... viewing AND posting.
Noisy Crow
12-12-2009, 12:38 PM
In a way I actually prefer the prices not being posted...
If I really, really want something I will know roughly what the cost is and then shop around for the best price.
But there is a lot of stuff that I want to get eventually, but am not in any really hurry, so it can wait until I have put enough pennies aside for it. But if a sponsor has it on sale for a great price it's going to be soOO hard not to just buy the stupid thing. :) Much easier on the won't-power to not know the price!
RedRaptor
12-12-2009, 12:52 PM
I love how Joe/FLIPDADDY posts prices. Its down to the exact cent and he even says "plus tax". Its easy, its full disclosure and leaves no questions. I agree with the OP that its just easier for all members.
cwp_sedan
12-12-2009, 12:57 PM
I thought the whole classified section was Members only... viewing AND posting.
It is. He is saying that the Sponsor's section should be set up the same as the Classified section.
DumpInfo
12-12-2009, 01:00 PM
an example is Supershyguy... I like how he performs pricing.. He shows the price he would sell it at, but he then states pm for special pricing!
I agree 100% on this and this is probably why I get almost everything from Peter aside the fact that he has really good products.
What bothers me the most is the fact of favourtism. How certain members pay one price and then the same TM3 member pays a different price! I know this won't change anything but wanted to bring it out cause that's also frustrating and total bs...
mdass52
12-12-2009, 01:00 PM
REPOST!
Didn't I just bring this up about a month and a half ago
x_o_k_x
12-12-2009, 01:02 PM
PM me for special price, means that to avoid confusion between what the price was 2 weeks ago and now. If members look at one month old thread and see $200 item, and now we sell for $240. Members will get confused and be like "I saw it for 200?"
PM me for price, basically means what you tell them is what they pay. Helps alot with unstable markets and dozens of familiar threads here.
Also very important is to avoid visitors outside of TM3. Prices are for members only and the only way to PM us is you have to be registered. Also little things like avoiding adverising and marketing for items that would devalue them because of low price.
So its up to sponsors here to decide what they want to do.
Reegs
12-12-2009, 01:03 PM
how about this the sponsor section is locked just like the classified section so only Tm3 members can see the pricing.
+1
Also, if The concern is allowing pricing to be seen by the public, then how about placing orders VIA PM, then at least it is recored through the forum, and you can even see the post count etc. I don't think it hurts anyone to have the prices advertised on the forum. Might even increase sales for the sponsors. I know most of the time if I see a product even if i'm slightly interested in it, most of the time I'm not bothered to PM just for pricing. More work for me and more work for the sponsors to respond to PMs.
Plus, the prices should be the same for all members anyways, so it seems to me the sponsors PMs to members would be very repetitive.
rick@garage16.ca
12-12-2009, 01:07 PM
anyways from my part I will keep posting up pricing on my pages and would like to see every sponsor do the same but if members feel they should leave it to the "PM for pricing" part then its fine as well
DumpInfo
12-12-2009, 01:25 PM
Thanks!
McGuyver_3
12-12-2009, 03:00 PM
i dont aggree with this whole set pricing thing as i quote the jobs accordingly to what has to be done. If its all combination of things that are to be done in one area i will obviously make prices to work for it as I am doing 1 thing in an area and if the other goes with it in the same area prices can be adjusted. Unless you mean strictly for parts. I do not supply parts.
omalak
12-12-2009, 08:06 PM
Make all sponsors post prices
Make the sponsors section a members only area..
require a minimum of 25-50 posts to be able to see the sponsor section
If you are a part of the community getting a post count of 25-50 is easy.
End of story
Oh and i'm not sure how it works right now, but going back to the post about current pricing posted by sp3gt. Allow sponsors the ability to fully edit their threads in the sponsor section.
I'm done now :)
chinsterr
12-12-2009, 08:29 PM
pm for special price aka "preferential pricing for certain members"
HAHAHAHA
I call BS on the whole "club price" , you guys are too naive.
I could care less about the whole thing as along as I'm happy with the price /rant
I agree 100% on this and this is probably why I get almost everything from Peter aside the fact that he has really good products.
What bothers me the most is the fact of favourtism. How certain members pay one price and then the same TM3 member pays a different price! I know this won't change anything but wanted to bring it out cause that's also frustrating and total bs...
This guy hit the nail on the head.
But like I said , I don't care as long as I'm that "other TM3 member getting the better price" haha
I love how Joe/FLIPDADDY posts prices. Its down to the exact cent and he even says "plus tax". Its easy, its full disclosure and leaves no questions.
+1
I call BS on the whole "club price" , you guys are too naive.
+1
I find most times that sponser pricing is not good..
eg. when their was a group buy for the k&N air filter i signed up..the next day i call a local place where i bought my rims and his every day price was the group buy price
Uni-Body
12-17-2009, 08:15 AM
Well, coming from an autobody perspective posting prices is quite difficult, as almost every job is unique regarding labour times etc.
I can understand some of you wanting posted discounted prices for retail items, however therein runs the risk of lowering the overall market value of the item(s) in question, which is a huge problem if you think about it. (From a vendor's point of view) At the same time, if a vendor posts discounted prices THEY SHOULD BE DISCOUNTED, not like aristeidis post, posting a discount price for something and then just selling the item for retail and taking advantage of trust is definitely not a good thing.
I think you can all agree this site is very visible on the net, that's why most sponsors are here. Posting TM3 discounted prices for anyone to see is just not a good idea.
I call BS on the whole "club price" , you guys are too naive.
I honestly have discounted TM3 labour rates, but I can't speak for everyone obviously.
I would think most sponsors would PM you back fairly quickly with a TM3 price, it all depends what type of items or services you're selling.
For example, I have a discounted TM3 body / refinish hourly rate, if I posted that for everyone to see my competing body shops (and others around the area) would probably match it to take some business away from me, while I'm here sponsoring the site and earning my trust with you guys - and the same quality of work may not be offered, and then you relate that back to my pricing. That's the main problem right there.
Discounted prices are for member's eyes only. Even when someone has 3 posts and contacts me for a quote I'm uneasy about it, because it could be anyone.
omalak
12-17-2009, 08:45 AM
Uni-Body you would be an exception to the posting of prices.. Services i agree cannot be posted if you need to look at the car first..
BUT why not restrict the sponsor section to members with a legit post count.. Such as 50 to 100 then there is no worry of lowering ur market or for competitors to view ur discount prices on the net.
Maybe somehow give sponsors the ability to restrict certain threds to members with post count of XXX. This way sponsors can still advertise to any new members or visitors from the net, but the special pricing would only be visible to legit members
towelsnap
12-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Uni-Body you would be an exception to the posting of prices.. Services i agree cannot be posted if you need to look at the car first..
BUT why not restrict the sponsor section to members with a legit post count.. Such as 50 to 100 then there is no worry of lowering ur market or for competitors to view ur discount prices on the net.
Maybe somehow give sponsors the ability to restrict certain threds to members with post count of XXX. This way sponsors can still advertise to any new members or visitors from the net, but the special pricing would only be visible to legit members
I agree 100%
McGuyver_3
12-17-2009, 10:55 AM
Uni-Body you would be an exception to the posting of prices.. Services i agree cannot be posted if you need to look at the car first..
BUT why not restrict the sponsor section to members with a legit post count.. Such as 50 to 100 then there is no worry of lowering ur market or for competitors to view ur discount prices on the net.
Maybe somehow give sponsors the ability to restrict certain threds to members with post count of XXX. This way sponsors can still advertise to any new members or visitors from the net, but the special pricing would only be visible to legit members
I don't agree with this at all because like stated before depending on what jobs are to get done that is how the price will be affected and it has nothing to do with favouritism but also along down the road what happens if the price changes? Then people will be well this is the price posted and I want to pay that. This is why I don't post prices. Also people see things that you do and think oo that's all or more then they ask questions and either pm or write in a thread so in a way you are not really illiminating any work. The 50 or 100 post count for members isn't going to do anything because they have your email and then that will overflow and if your number is on the board they will call. If you make those restrictions it will do 1 of 2 things or both 1 post whoring their way up to certain post numbers 2 people leave their inactive accounts lingering because they are there to sell or get deals. You see where I am comming from? Also what work is included with these prices? Yeah you may say an hid instal is basic well no its not everyone has their own way of doing it and I for one remove the bumper and hide the ballasts so they are not in the way still accessible but properly mounted and hidden
crono06
12-17-2009, 11:12 AM
pm for special price aka "preferential pricing for certain members"
HAHAHAHA
I call BS on the whole "club price" , you guys are too naive.
I could care less about the whole thing as along as I'm happy with the price /rant
This guy hit the nail on the head.
But like I said , I don't care as long as I'm that "other TM3 member getting the better price" haha
Agreed. This is visible everywhere, not just here. The more you build a relationship with somebody, the more likely they are to be generous to you.
Preferential pricing is a fact of life, and it cannot be avoided. If I'm happy with the price, that's all that really matters. I don't really care about what others are paying for the same product/service. If I feel I can afford it/like the price, I will hop on it. If I don't like it, I speak by not purchasing said item.
+1
+1
I find most times that sponser pricing is not good..
eg. when their was a group buy for the k&N air filter i signed up..the next day i call a local place where i bought my rims and his every day price was the group buy price
I agree with this too... I have seen some instances where our "so-called" discounted prices are not very discounted. Sometimes I have found they are more than if I shop around...
McGuyver_3
12-17-2009, 12:11 PM
I agree with this too... I have seen some instances where our "so-called" discounted prices are not very discounted. Sometimes I have found they are more than if I shop around...
That is not true when the GB for winter tires was going on i tried getting the same make and model through my work and was quoted 50$/ tire more BUT when i was looking for summers the tires were 60$/tire more expensive at the private shop over my work so depends on what the product is and how common it is used.
crono06
12-17-2009, 07:02 PM
I agree completely with you. I guess it's really up to the consumer to shop around. Sometimes the deals on here are way too good to pass up, but sometimes, if you look hard enough, you can find better.
Ogata
12-18-2009, 12:25 AM
consensus...there is no work around and business is business for our sponers unless there is a mutual solution.
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