where can i buy a antiflicker capacitor?

[mok]

where can i buy a anti flicker capacitor?

I want to do a hid kit install on my 04 Mazda 3 gt

and should i install it like this? and buy 2 caps
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x21/mazpitbull/DSCF2876.jpg

or should i install like this?? and buy 1 cap
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/cjlee9/HID%20install/IMG_0752.jpg

[stevenma188]

You should use a relay harness, and therefore will only need 1 cap. You should be able to buy a capacitor from any electronic component store.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?40599-How-to-install-HIDs-on-04-06-Mazda-3

[mok]

THANKS!

[mok]

i get the 4700uf but what how many volts?

[stevenma188]

Anything above 12V should be fine. I used 16V on 2 cars, both with no problems. People online seem to use 35V.

[mok]

all the 4700uf capacitor on ebay
only have negative and positive posts on one end
is that what i'm supposed to buy or am i supposed to find one that has 4 posts total.
on one end negative and positive
on the other negative and positive.

[TheMAN]

if there's doubt, don't buy it

the above pics show a very amateurish installation anyway... proper physical protection should be put in place on both the capacitor and the wires... the connectors should also be proper on each end and not simply be exposed spades that you cram into a socket... that can easily fall out! and finally of course, proper materials needs to be used to ensure water will not damage the connections

[stevenma188]

The capacitors with the terminals on different ends are called axial capacitors. The one's with terminals on the same end are called radial capacitors. Both work just the same. I used radial ones, bent the terminals and wrapped it around the spades that plugged into the stock headlight plug, then wrapped the whole thing in electrical tape.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/StevenMa188/TM3/IMG_0772.jpg

[mok]

thanks steve i ordered them!

[gtown m3]

Unreal mod... Cost me $6 for 6 capacitors at the source. took 2 seconds to install and solved all my HID problems..

Be Easy..

[ST3ALTH]

what does this mod do?

[JashiK]

your fuse box is pretty dusty...


The capacitors with the terminals on different ends are called axial capacitors. The one's with terminals on the same end are called radial capacitors. Both work just the same. I used radial ones, bent the terminals and wrapped it around the spades that plugged into the stock headlight plug, then wrapped the whole thing in electrical tape.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/StevenMa188/TM3/IMG_0772.jpg

[stevenma188]

what does this mod do?
This fixes the flickering problems people with 04-06 cars when using HIDs as DRLs.


your fuse box is pretty dusty...
...I know..... :(

[McGuyver_3]

what does this mod do?

if you have a 04-06 model you have the drls as the lowbeams. Now if you hook up your HID's straight in to the lowbeams without a relay, your hids will flicker because the power is a on and off pulse. By adding in this capaciter you are turning this pulse in to a stable 12V source causing your HID's to be on all the time

[stevenma188]

^What he said!

[jab]

where is a good place i can find a decent relay and what kind should i be looking for ?

[htc***]

where is a good place i can find a decent relay and what kind should i be looking for ?

Where are you locate??? In downtown GTA, I know one store sale the capacitor 4700uf 16v for $.35 each or 3 for a $1 and you can make your own. I had blown already 3 of them when I did a test install before hook up to the car.


From Ebay

Relay - http://cgi.ebay.ca/HID-H1-H3-H7-H8-H11-9006-9005-relay-harness-with-Fuse_W0QQitemZ320507064791QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a9fb5b1d7

If you don't want to make your own Capacitor - http://cgi.ebay.ca/2x-HID-Warning-Canceller-Capacitor-Kit-Computer-Error_W0QQitemZ220576041116QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item335b5b489c

[jab]

yaaa im also in the gta area..where abouts downtown are you..maybe if you have any on yuo i cuold grab a couple or give me the name of that store

[htc***]

yaaa im also in the gta area..where abouts downtown are you..maybe if you have any on yuo i cuold grab a couple or give me the name of that store

I'm not live in Downtown. Do you know Honest Ed @Bloor/Bathurst??? The store is between Bathurst and palmerston Ave and I think the store name is Above Plus. They sale old computer and electronic components. When you get in and go on the right side about middle store then you will see a lot of capacitors. The color is brown 4700uf 16V. I think they also open on weekend.

[JaYson]

does using a Relay Harness solve the flickering problem? or do i still need to use a capacitor with the relay harness to solve the flickering problem?

also. i have a 2006 mazda 3 GT, is it possible to do the HID install w/o a relay harness?

thanks

[yearoftherat]

A relay will not solve the flickering issue. It is recommended that you use a relay/harness so that the HID will draw the power straight from the battery. Also the relay/harness has a built in fuse so that if something was to go wrong, it will trigger the fuse and not mess up your stock wiring.

[htc***]

A relay will not solve the flickering issue. It is recommended that you use a relay/harness so that the HID will draw the power straight from the battery. Also the relay/harness has a built in fuse so that if something was to go wrong, it will trigger the fuse and not mess up your stock wiring.

+1. That why you need a capacitor to solve the flickering issue.

[JayJay18]

Seriously in my opinion if you want a really nice way to fix the DRL problem talk to Mcguyver (Dan). He has the solution to use your Highbeams or fogs as drls. gives the car a really mean look i figured it out myself and it is great.

[JaYson]

Seriously in my opinion if you want a really nice way to fix the DRL problem talk to Mcguyver (Dan). He has the solution to use your Highbeams or fogs as drls. gives the car a really mean look i figured it out myself and it is great.

does this by any chance involve splicing into the original headlight harness?

[JayJay18]

does this by any chance involve splicing into the original headlight harness?

Well the only wire cutting is of the low beam harness and the high beam oem harness technically only on one side, this is easily reversible pm Mcguyver hell explain everything

[cklwilliam]

I went to the two different Source store, they both dont carry these capacitor... um.. where else can i try?

[JayJay18]

I went to the two different Source store, they both dont carry these capacitor... um.. where else can i try?

Ebay is the best bet might run you 100 bucks after shipping though

[stevenma188]

The Source will not carry them. I went to A-One Counterpart in London for mine.

[JaYson]

i gave in and just bought the plug & play capacitors for the HIDs on eBay. it was 12bucks after currency converstion, shipping was free.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-x-Xenon-HID-Warning-Decoder-Error-Canceller-Capacitor_W0QQitemZ180497569999QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2a067e 58cf

[JaYson]

Can i do the HID install without the Capacitor first, then just add the capacitor when it comes in the mail?

whats the worst that could happen? it'll flicker during the day? (will that damage teh bulb?)

[yearoftherat]

Why do the job half-ass ? Just wait for the part to come in and do it right the first time.

[stevenma188]

+1 Although there is no concrete proof, I'm pretty sure the flickering would reduce the life of the ballast.

[JayJay18]

Why do the job half-ass ? Just wait for the part to come in and do it right the first time.

+1 my ballast went after two weeks of flickering, i just had to be carefull and make sure i turned on the hids before i pull the ebrake down and turn it off after i pull the ebrake up, so yes as said above just wait for it no point in doing half ass job ::)

[RetroLite]

harness will solve the flickering problem most likely, capacitor will damage the battery and alternator as so did happen on my ford focus 2 years ago from the capacitor but it did fix the flickering problem.

[JaYson]

+1 my ballast went after two weeks of flickering, i just had to be carefull and make sure i turned on the hids before i pull the ebrake down and turn it off after i pull the ebrake up, so yes as said above just wait for it no point in doing half ass job ::)

what is this eBrake business? do i need to worry about turning the HIDs on and off depending on when my ebrake is up, once i have the capacitor in?

[JaYson]

harness will solve the flickering problem most likely, capacitor will damage the battery and alternator as so did happen on my ford focus 2 years ago from the capacitor but it did fix the flickering problem.

this is why i posed my earlier question, there seems to be alot of people saying the capacitor will solve the flickering, but some people saying that the relay harness solves the flickering alone (which i dont see how it would)

[JayJay18]

this is why i posed my earlier question, there seems to be alot of people saying the capacitor will solve the flickering, but some people saying that the relay harness solves the flickering alone (which i dont see how it would)

dont worry about the ebrake business. the relay harness is your best solution as it give 100% power to the hid's. since the drls are not 100% power the ballast cant power the hids because they require 100% power to be on. the capitor is there to help power the hids fully when the harness is only powering them at 50%. thats what i understand.

[JayJay18]

dont worry about the ebrake business. the relay harness is your best solution as it give 100% power to the hid's. since the drls are not 100% power the ballast cant power the hids because they require 100% power to be on. the capitor is there to help power the hids fully when the harness is only powering them at 50%. thats what i understand.

someone correct me if im wrong

[JaYson]

dont worry about the ebrake business. the relay harness is your best solution as it give 100% power to the hid's. since the drls are not 100% power the ballast cant power the hids because they require 100% power to be on. the capitor is there to help power the hids fully when the harness is only powering them at 50%. thats what i understand.

So do i still need the capacitor if im running a relay harness?

[JayJay18]

So do i still need the capacitor if im running a relay harness?

no you do not need the capacitor for the relay harness.
On that note your HIDs will be on all the time, longevity will decrease in half depending on how much you drive

[JaYson]

no you do not need the capacitor for the relay harness.
On that note your HIDs will be on all the time, longevity will decrease in half depending on how much you drive

are you absolutly certain about this? because the concensus seems to be that you need a capacitor regarless of having a relay harness.

[JayJay18]

are you absolutly certain about this? because the concensus seems to be that you need a capacitor regarless of having a relay harness.

The main function of the relay harness is to give the HIDs 100% power directly from a fuse which comes from your battery. this is a constant power as soon as you turn on your car meaning there wont be any flickering wat so ever.

[stevenma188]

Ok. I will clear the confusion. You WILL need a capacitor in order to run your HIDs as the DRLs as well as low beam. You WILL NOT need the capacitor if you only want to run your HIDs as the low beam (effectively disabling your low beams as DRLs).

[JaYson]

Ok. I will clear the confusion. You WILL need a capacitor in order to run your HIDs as the DRLs as well as low beam. You WILL NOT need the capacitor if you only want to run your HIDs as the low beam (effectively disabling your low beams as DRLs).

Okay thankyou.

So HIDs as DRLs will require me to run a capacitor.

If i choose to disable DRLs, use Fogs/highbeams, as DRLs, than i will not need a capacitor.

correct?

[JaYson]

actually. on that note. does anyone have a write-up on setting Fogs as DRLs? i cant seem to find anything significant on it....


(search function doesnt seem to be too helpful. i cant even search "HID" )

[stevenma188]

Search for independent fogs or something along those lines. The reason HID won't work is because the search word is too short.

[JaYson]

found it!
but i dont know how i feel about having open connections like that just hanging around in my fuse box.....

[JayJay18]

found it!
but i dont know how i feel about having open connections like that just hanging around in my fuse box.....

There wont be any open connections. Mcguyver does the mod ask him, any unused stock wiring he will electrical tape it and tuck it away neatly. thats the expensive way though.

[JaYson]

well this is what i found. http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.0
this is basically the mod correct? no cleaner way to do it?

[JayJay18]

well this is what i found. http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.0
this is basically the mod correct? no cleaner way to do it?

that will not solve your flickering problem

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?20069-All-new-highbeams-as-DRL-mod/page2&highlight=drl
This is the thread.

The only way to stop the flickering is a relay harness or a setup the Mcguyver does with 3 relays

[JaYson]

1) so if i do the Independant fog mod. that will make my fogs independant. however, this will not affect my current DRL settings so my headlights will still run as DRLs?

2) if i have the Relay harness for my HIDs wired up. My HIDs will still run as DRLs?

3) if i have a relay harness + capacitor, this will prevent flickering from happening while my HIDs run as DRLs?

[JaYson]

also, why does the flickering issue only happen when the HIDs run as DRLs, and not when they run as low beams?

[JayJay18]

1) so if i do the Independant fog mod. that will make my fogs independant. however, this will not affect my current DRL settings so my headlights will still run as DRLs?

2) if i have the Relay harness for my HIDs wired up. My HIDs will still run as DRLs?

3) if i have a relay harness + capacitor, this will prevent flickering from happening while my HIDs run as DRLs?

1.) correct
2.) your HIDs will be on whenever you turn on your car
3.) your buy one of the other not both

DRLs only run your lights at 50% power. your HIDs ballasts try to power the HIDs at 50% but when it try the ballast has a hard time finding an source to output the 50% power because the HIDs can only work at 100% power thats why they are called High Emitting Diodes lol

[JaYson]

Ok. I will clear the confusion. You WILL need a capacitor in order to run your HIDs as the DRLs as well as low beam. You WILL NOT need the capacitor if you only want to run your HIDs as the low beam (effectively disabling your low beams as DRLs).

according to what i've found. and steven you need a capacitor to run HIDs as DRLs

[stevenma188]

medeirosj1988 is wrong about #3. You will need to run the relay harness + capacitor to run your DRL without flickering. I have stated this numerous times already.

[JayJay18]

A relay harness and a capacitor doesn't make sense seeing as the relay harness provides a constant power

[JayJay18]

http://www.carhidkits.com/xenon-hid-kit-99/hid-kit-wire-relay-harness-200.html

Check this out!!!

[JayJay18]

http://www.thexenonstore.com/relay.php

This aswell!!!

[JaYson]

this is painfully irritating....

[JaYson]

neither the HID system itself, the relay harness, or a capacitor - will disable my DRLs, correct?

[JaYson]

for the sake of argument. im pretty sure you need BOTH because:

1) the relay, only acts as a "switch", it picks up the low voltage signal to turn the lights on, which signals the HIDs to turn on

where as

2) the Capacitor, stores energy and releases it whenever there is excess power required. such as when the HIDs are running as DRLs and thus need more power in order to not "flicker"


therefore, capacitors and relays dont do the same job. (i think)

but really....how do i disable my DRLs ? (2006 mazda 3 gt)

[stevenma188]

Disable your DRLs by using the relay harness and then splicing the signal source into the parking light.

[JaYson]

Disable your DRLs by using the relay harness and then splicing the signal source into the parking light.

man...you made that sound sooooo much easier than i feel it actually is...lol

[JaYson]

man...you made that sound sooooo much easier than i feel it actually is...lol

okay...i did more research...maybe it is just that easy

THanks

[JayJay18]

I guess so srry for the mis-confusion from my understanding i thought u didnt need the capacitor so go by what steve is sayinng

[machx]

Where can I get the relays, preferebly Ebay... since it's teh easiest.

Also I just want to know how many Relays I need... I want to do Low Beam HIDs and Fog Light HIDs... Is one realy enough, or does each ballast require a relay, and subsequently require it's own capicator, or do would this be done at the base, then everythign from there on it would have that functionality.

ie, I set up one relay set with capacitor from the battery and driver's side light wire and and everything after wether it is one, two, four, six ballasts, be ok on that one relay.

Thanks.

Sorry for doubleposting in multiple threads, but each one is going it's own direction and i'm just trying to get the best route.

Cheers!

[cwp_sedan]

Where can I get the relays, preferebly Ebay... since it's teh easiest.

Also I just want to know how many Relays I need... I want to do Low Beam HIDs and Fog Light HIDs... Is one realy enough, or does each ballast require a relay, and subsequently require it's own capicator, or do would this be done at the base, then everythign from there on it would have that functionality.

ie, I set up one relay set with capacitor from the battery and driver's side light wire and and everything after wether it is one, two, four, six ballasts, be ok on that one relay.

Thanks.

Sorry for doubleposting in multiple threads, but each one is going it's own direction and i'm just trying to get the best route.

Cheers!

I've already answered you in another thread. Caps are ONLY for DRLs. Caps don't make the lighting better so why would you need Caps on anything BUT your DRLs.

A relay harnesses are used to connect power to your lights. Do you normally use multiple extension cords to plug in your vacuum? No. You only need 1 per lighting system (1 harness for Fogs, 1 for Lows, etc)

[JaYson]

I bought Capacitors off ebay (anybuyer is fine, i got mine from HK, they're all the same)

I split the cost with a friend so we had ONE capacitor each.

the best way is to use one Relay Harness as well as one Capacitor.

You'll want to take the "extra wire" from your HID bulbs, the one with the 2 prongs out of your HID bulbs, the Prongs plug into ONE of your stock headlight connectors, the Plug end of that goes into your Signal Source for your HID relay harness, from there everything else connects normally.

the Capacitor stores power, and provides a steady power source to the Bulbs so that they done flicker (aka. anti-flicker capacitor) you really only need ONE if you're using the relay harness, because the ONE harness will be powering BOTH HID ballasts.

I would assume you'd need to do the exact same setup for your Fogs as well, ie. ONE capacitor for the FOGs, and ONE relay harness used for the FOGs

hope that helps.

[machx]

Thanks everyone, I think i'm ALMOST sorted... just ONE more question....

Does this unit HID Kit, I ordered, have the relay harness in there? Or do I still need it?

http://www.racerinnovation.com/jdm/item/HID-60K.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190444765984&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

It looks like it has it, but i'm unsure...

Thanks, and I promise, no more questions, I'll just jump right into the project! I'll let you know how it goes! :D

[cwp_sedan]

^ no harness. Are you sure you should be attempting to install these if you don't know what the relay harness is or what it does?

[JaYson]

It does not my friend!

this is a relay harness, you can get them anywhere really. Nextmod has them if you're around markham
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5139HsfRJ2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[JaYson]

maybe msg sp3GT, i got my HID kit and relay harness from him. great deal on the HIDs and he includes a warranty he's in the sponsors section "import tuners "or something like that. but his screen name is sp3GT for sure.

what CWP_Sedan is trying to say is: maybe you should do a little more research first before you attempt the installation, def. read this forum from the beginning, check out youtube, there are some really helpful videos about how to do the install, and check out the "DIY" section of this forum

[macc08]

ive been doing research on this and i have an 07 mz3 and my DRL's are ran through my highs, and HIDs are lows, but my HIDs flicker a bit when im driving (mostly the drivers side) could this be a ballast? i see that in this thread, someone said you dont need a capacitor for the 07+ models..

[n00bMeiSter]

ive been doing research on this and i have an 07 mz3 and my DRL's are ran through my highs, and HIDs are lows, but my HIDs flicker a bit when im driving (mostly the drivers side) could this be a ballast? i see that in this thread, someone said you dont need a capacitor for the 07+ models..

If only one of your HID's is flickering, it's a problem with the bulb, the ballast or the wiring for that light

[macc08]

If only one of your HID's is flickering, it's a problem with the bulb, the ballast or the wiring for that light

its both sides that flicker, not so bad at idle or parked, worse when driving, but no issues with connections...

[Default User]

its both sides that flicker, not so bad at idle or parked, worse when driving, but no issues with connections...

Are you sure the bulbs are seated properly and securely in the socket?

Pop the hood - turn on your lights and wiggle the back of the bulb.

auto-corrected by iPhone through tapatalk.

[macc08]

yea everythings good...