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Noodlemier
07-07-2010, 12:33 AM
Just wondering if anyone has been able to use the steering controls on the 2010 M3 to scroll through tunes on a 3gs iphone? I've tried through bluetooth and aux. jack but can only use the volume controls.
distr0
07-07-2010, 12:38 AM
try using the stereo system control knob to change tracks and to see if the play/pause button works. i don't have the 3gs iphone but have tried a bb 9700 and the steering wheel controls as well as the stereo controls work fine with this phone. i know it doesn't really help you, but give it a shot. if it doesn't work, try reconnecting to the car again by either disabling/reenabling bluetooth on phone, or switch key to off, then acc and try again.
Noodlemier
07-07-2010, 12:44 AM
try using the stereo system control knob to change tracks and to see if the play/pause button works. i don't have the 3gs iphone but have tried a bb 9700 and the steering wheel controls as well as the stereo controls work fine with this phone. i know it doesn't really help you, but give it a shot. if it doesn't work, try reconnecting to the car again by either disabling/reenabling bluetooth on phone, or switch key to off, then acc and try again.
I've tried switching key to off then acc as well as disconnecting/reconnecting bluetooth and still nothing.....haven't tried the stereo controls yet though, thanks for the tip.
melissa
07-07-2010, 01:01 AM
Just wondering if anyone has been able to use the steering controls on the 2010 M3 to scroll through tunes on a 3gs iphone? I've tried through bluetooth and aux. jack but can only use the volume controls.
I was wondering the same thing today!
Ive got my iphone 3G hooked up with the bluetooth to make calls and play music but you cant change the tracks with the mazda controls, seems as though the only way to change the song is to do it manually on the phone.
Noodlemier
07-07-2010, 07:58 AM
Ive got my iphone 3G hooked up with the bluetooth to make calls and play music but you cant change the tracks with the mazda controls, seems as though the only way to change the song is to do it manually on the phone.
How are we expected to go "hands free" if I can't change songs!! :bang
TheMAN
07-07-2010, 08:15 PM
go get the dealer to replace the bluetooth module with an updated one... it might fix it
mazda lover
07-07-2010, 08:25 PM
does the 2010 have a USB port? On my wife's vehicle it has a USB port and she can change the tracks by using the steering wheel controls. She can also play her MP3 via AUX jack but can't change the tracks, if she had an I pod I believe she could change the tracks via the steering wheel controls.
no usb port...you think an update would fix this?
Jeff-TheBiz
07-07-2010, 10:24 PM
I havent had on iphone setup that did work.. not sure why.
once again bb>iphone
aZuMi
07-07-2010, 10:27 PM
No controls except for volume when you use iphone or itouch..unfortunately. I used a different phones before like LG Eve, P1i, and X1 and it worked fine...but not for the iphone
Noodlemier
07-07-2010, 10:45 PM
go get the dealer to replace the bluetooth module with an updated one... it might fix it
Thanks, I'll look into that.
Noodlemier
07-07-2010, 10:47 PM
I havent had on iphone setup that did work.. not sure why.
once again bb>iphone
Is there a reason to update the bluetooth then? Damn iphones!.....nothin' but trouble!!
I noticed tonight that iam able to pause the song with the pause button on my stereo while my iphone is hooked up via bluetooth - so we can make calls, adjust volume, pause and play song but cannot change a track. lol unbelievable.
dave2010GT
07-12-2010, 12:41 PM
Its a bluetooth profile issue berries, LG's, Sony & Samsung phones all allow themselves to be controlled fully by an external device via BT, iphone does not allow full control of their products via BT.
It's a PITA but hey I guess you can do what you want when you rule the world!
billd80
07-12-2010, 09:08 PM
yeah, my samsung omnia running windows mobile has no trouble @ all. It even pauses the song when i turn the car of, and starts off where it was last once i start the car upon returning.
Shuffling through songs works well, but there is a slight delay when changing songs.
lol i wish my iphone worked completely with my 3 but lets be honest...the iphone still blows everything else out of the water lol
Noodlemier
07-12-2010, 09:32 PM
lol i wish my iphone worked completely with my 3 but lets be honest...the iphone still blows everything else out of the water lol
+1
Think I know why: BB's use a standard Audio control proifle via Bluetooth - Apple is propriatary - "Made by apple" stuff. In otherwords, other than hands free bluetooth for voice calls, the audio portion is pretty much locked down so "apple" preferred products can work.
nomik2
07-17-2010, 01:45 PM
Think I know why: BB's use a standard Audio control proifle via Bluetooth - Apple is propriatary - "Made by apple" stuff. In otherwords, other than hands free bluetooth for voice calls, the audio portion is pretty much locked down so "apple" preferred products can work.
Not true at all, Apple's bluetooth stack supports PBAP, PAN, A2DP and AVRCP profiles (standards) along with regular hands free calling profile (HFP/HSP). It also has some weak support for HIDP (keyboards, mice, etc). AVRCP (audio video remote control profile) is what is used to control music, however Apple's bluetooth stack is outdated and does not contain updated definitions for AVRCP.
iOS 4.1 Beta, however, has an updated version of AVRCP and can now be used to skip back/forth. It should hopefully be out in the next couple of weeks...I find it annoying that I have to reach for the phone and this should fix it.
Edit: I should also mention that it probably has nothing to do with hardware not supporting it.
Noodlemier
07-18-2010, 11:08 PM
iOS 4.1 Beta, however, has an updated version of AVRCP and can now be used to skip back/forth. It should hopefully be out in the next couple of weeks...I find it annoying that I have to reach for the phone and this should fix it.Awesome! thanks for the info, I'll keep an eye out for the 4.1 update
what about the update that came out the other night 4.0.1...wonder if that changed anything, i should give it a try
Not true at all, Apple's bluetooth stack supports PBAP, PAN, A2DP and AVRCP profiles (standards) along with regular hands free calling profile (HFP/HSP). It also has some weak support for HIDP (keyboards, mice, etc). AVRCP (audio video remote control profile) is what is used to control music, however Apple's bluetooth stack is outdated and does not contain updated definitions for AVRCP.
iOS 4.1 Beta, however, has an updated version of AVRCP and can now be used to skip back/forth. It should hopefully be out in the next couple of weeks...I find it annoying that I have to reach for the phone and this should fix it.
Edit: I should also mention that it probably has nothing to do with hardware not supporting it.
Weird. I hav ethe Motorola S9 Bluetooth stereo headset, and when I called into Apple about it, they said they didn't support the product and that it wasn't compatible with their protocols.
From motorola: Motorola Bluetooth Stereo products (headphones and adapters) are compatible with any brand of Bluetooth-enabled phone or music device that supports Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) and Audio Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP).
Genious bar: "Doesn't work with that"
I'll try again now that I have the 4.0 on my 3GS... Fingers crossed!
billd80
07-21-2010, 04:23 PM
I have a few friends that installed the iphone update recently released and 2 of them now have reception problems after updating (lost bars and signal dropping in places that never happened before), be carefull with apple updates, I recommend waiting a few weeks untill enough people have tried it! (remember the itunes update a couple of years ago that bricked thousands of ipods?!)
bb147
08-04-2010, 02:34 AM
Same issue for me with an iPhone 4 running 4.0.1
Pause and Play works but cannot skip tracks.
Can't wait till 4.1 if that really fixes it, that's the only thing lacking so far on this amazing phone and car :)
nomik2
08-04-2010, 05:33 AM
4.1 betas are out, if someone wants to check em out.
GadgetAddicted
08-24-2010, 11:33 AM
4.1 betas are out, if someone wants to check em out.
Does the 4.1Beta support the forward and rewind controls? Anyone try it?
dave2010GT
08-24-2010, 12:28 PM
I've updated my 3G to 4.0.2 and still no control profile updates.
It seems Apple does not want this control feature turned on.
Noodlemier
08-24-2010, 07:55 PM
I've updated my 3G to 4.0.2 and still no control profile updates.
It seems Apple does not want this control feature turned on.
:bang I just updated mine hoping maybe this would be the one.....oh well, still luv my iphone!
hit26k
08-24-2010, 11:12 PM
I've updated my 3G to 4.0.2 and still no control profile updates.
It seems Apple does not want this control feature turned on.
iPhone4 doesn't want to work with it either. For now I'm just using it connected via aux port and chaning tracks is not very fun...
wilboy
09-13-2010, 04:12 PM
Hi, good news on iOS4.1
finally iphone(3, 3gs, 4) will support bluetooth AVRCP which means with this new update the steering wheel control will work
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647
time to get my iphone 4 =D
hit26k
09-13-2010, 04:26 PM
Hi, good news on iOS4.1
finally iphone(3, 3gs, 4) will support bluetooth AVRCP which means with this new update the steering wheel control will work
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647
time to get my iphone 4 =D
I read this and had to go try it out. IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!!! I can change tracks via steering wheel controls and won't ever have to look at my iphone4 again while driving. THANK YOU!!!!!
aZuMi
09-13-2010, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the update! I actually thought about switching phones because of this lack in feature!
YES! So pumped about this new feature :) actually can't wait until I go to school tomorrow to try it out!
hit26k
09-13-2010, 10:59 PM
the only issue is that tracks don't change right away. There is about a 1 - 2 second delay between flicking the button and the track actually changing. Nothing reallly big but you get over it after a while.
hit26k
09-14-2010, 11:15 AM
The delay is caused by the Bluetooth connection, not the iPhone or Mazda itself as far as I'm aware. Bluetooth wireless streaming is often lagged.
Yea I figured it would be the connection. I'm just happy that I can finally use the steering wheel controls instead waiting to get to a stop light and change a track.
Noodlemier
09-14-2010, 09:25 PM
Sweet!!! Just went out to the garage to try this out.....success!! :headbang
Thanks everyone for keeping this thread alive.
melissa
09-14-2010, 09:27 PM
wait, how does this work? is this for the iphone 4 only?
gotak
09-14-2010, 09:34 PM
wait, how does this work? is this for the iphone 4 only?
Check that link posted before about OS 4.1. It's basically in the new OS 4.1.
dave2010GT
09-15-2010, 08:57 AM
It's about time going to have to test this
antifuse
09-15-2010, 10:17 AM
wait, how does this work? is this for the iphone 4 only?
OS 4.1 (on any iPhone, 3G and up) finally lets you skip tracks.
melissa
09-16-2010, 01:44 AM
yay it works!!!
gprime
09-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Just tested this today. So happy it works! If only bluetooth didn't have that delay, everything would be perfect.
Noodlemier
09-19-2010, 09:50 PM
Has anyone tried this through the Aux. port yet?
hit26k
09-19-2010, 10:14 PM
Has anyone tried this through the Aux. port yet?
i'll try it out tomorrow morning on may to work. I'll report back then.
Noodlemier
09-20-2010, 09:16 AM
To answer my own question, it seems only volume controls works through Aux. (tried it last night on my way home from work) Thought this might be a way around the bluetooth lag??
hit26k
09-20-2010, 10:22 AM
To answer my own question, it seems only volume controls works through Aux. (tried it last night on my way home from work) Thought this might be a way around the bluetooth lag??
same here, tried it this morning and it didn't work. I guess i'll just leave the BT on my phone.
antifuse
09-21-2010, 01:10 PM
I wouldn't expect it to work through the aux port, to be honest with you. Does it work with ANY devices through the aux port?
gotak
09-21-2010, 01:42 PM
I wouldn't expect it to work through the aux port, to be honest with you. Does it work with ANY devices through the aux port?
The AUX port is just an audio in. There really aren't any standards out there for supporting control for audio In ports. I mean yes you have the remote on your iphone headphones that goes into the audio out but that's not a standard that everyone supports.
The AUX port is like 1990 technology don't expect too much of it.
BTW volume control of course works for AUX port it has nothing to do with the port it's just volume control on your stereo
gotak
09-21-2010, 01:43 PM
And I use "technology" in relation to the AUX port at what I'd consider extremely remotely related. Just like how I'd consider a wooden stick weapons technology...
Bomber-Stud
10-06-2010, 01:50 AM
So how can I skip tracks on my iphone (os4.1) using my wheel controls, if I dont have bluetooth?
Noodlemier
10-06-2010, 08:30 PM
So how can I skip tracks on my iphone (os4.1) using my wheel controls, if I dont have bluetooth?
I'm pretty sure bluetooth is the only way to use the steering controls to skip tracks.
Bomber-Stud
10-07-2010, 06:37 PM
I'm pretty sure bluetooth is the only way to use the steering controls to skip tracks.
what about the mazda/ipod integration kit?
what about the mazda/ipod integration kit?
Hey guys I just picked up a 2011 mazda 3 gs and asked the dealer to install the mazda/ipod integration kit, can anyone confirm if this is worth purchasing now? Is the bluetooth audio digital quality ? would the ipod integration kit sound better? My car should be here in a week and I would really appreciate anyone's experiences before they install it.. its money I can save if I really don't need it...
sorry forgot to mention its an iphone 4 on 4.1 .. Actually all I would like to know is if the quality of music is good via bluetooth, makes no sense getting the ipod integration if this works just as well..
Noodlemier
11-12-2010, 10:00 AM
sorry forgot to mention its an iphone 4 on 4.1 .. Actually all I would like to know is if the quality of music is good via bluetooth, makes no sense getting the ipod integration if this works just as well..
I don't find any problems with the sound quality but there is a delay (like 1sec.) while skipping through tracks.....kind of annoying....but you get used to it
hit26k
11-12-2010, 10:48 AM
I don't find any problems with the sound quality but there is a delay (like 1sec.) while skipping through tracks.....kind of annoying....but you get used to it
yup! quality is crisp through the bluetooth. it helps when you have a 10 speaker bose system :headbang
Quality is definitely better thru bluetooth than regular aux input. Not sure how it compare to the ipod integration, but I would stick with the bluettoth connection. It's great. I doubt it's any worse than the ipod plugin.
Sweet I will be going with the bluetooth instead the ipod kit and save some money. This car gets better and better everyday lol .. Thanks all
So how can I skip tracks on my iphone (os4.1) using my wheel controls, if I dont have bluetooth?
iPod integration kit... but it means you have to connect it every time you enter the car.. that should work ..
iPod integration kit... but it means you have to connect it every time you enter the car.. that should work ..
sorry I cant edit.... or you can buy an aftermarket deck with iPhone controls and have your installer wire the wheel controls to your deck...
ovie8
11-12-2010, 04:55 PM
I updated my 3GS to the 4.1 software and since then it has been hell....
Alot of times I cannot receive calls...apparently the message they get is that this phone number is not available. Couple hours later fido sends a text message that I missed a call ...but the phone history never picked up the call coming through....
Also, been receiving text messages a few hours after it was sent :bang...sigh...apparently a new update will be out shortly though...
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