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neveragain
07-21-2010, 12:38 PM
I have 2008 mazda 3 sport gt and 50,000km the power steering pump went than at 85000km the winshield wiper motor went. MAZDA WILL NOT COVER WIPER MOTOR SINCE WARRANTY HAD JUST RUN OUT. I LOVE IT WHEN A COMPANY SELLS YOU SOMETHING AND CAN'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. NO WAY THIS SHOULD OF HAPPENED.. Of course the motor went when i was in a big rain storm and you dont realize how important they are till you dont have them. Can anyone else tell me what will break on this car next? Can you say Honda. had acura integra 220,000 km and not one thing went wrong with it...the thing was bulletproof. Now i pay more for the mazda and its falling apart.... any suggestions

RECREATIONAL_ANXIETY
07-21-2010, 02:10 PM
I'd say if you're that unhappy with it, sell it and buy something else. Every car is different, and every car has the potential of having something fail - doesn't matter what brand it is. You say you had no problems with your Integra, but I bet many other people have. There are probably many forum posts around the net from people who own Honda's and have failures of parts and are not happy about it. Of course, some cars are inherently better than others in terms of overall quality, but they all have mechanical components that can fail. If you really can't stand the thought of something going wrong with a vehicle until after 200K, you're best to start taking the bus because it's gonna happen whether you drive a Mazda or another make. If nothing ever went wrong with a Honda, they would have a 300K 15 year warranty on every vehicle.

stevenma188
07-21-2010, 02:13 PM
I remember when I chose to paint my wiper arms on a day with thunderstorms......Fun drive back from wings night, but I managed to do it :)

bman13
07-21-2010, 02:18 PM
I'd say if you're that unhappy with it, sell it and buy something else. Every car is different, and every car has the potential of having something fail - doesn't matter what brand it is. You say you had no problems with your Integra, but I bet many other people have. There are probably many forum posts around the net from people who own Honda's and have failures of parts and are not happy about it. Of course, some cars are inherently better than others in terms of overall quality, but they all have mechanical components that can fail. If you really can't stand the thought of something going wrong with a vehicle until after 200K, you're best to start taking the bus because it's gonna happen whether you drive a Mazda or another make. If nothing ever went wrong with a Honda, they would have a 300K 15 year warranty on every vehicle.

Also, they would stand behind it but apparently according to your post, your warranty is done. That is not Mazda's fault. Standing behind something would be if it was covered under warranty, should be covered under warranty, and they are denying fixing/covering it.

Iceman_F1
07-21-2010, 02:27 PM
Yeah, my suggestion is to not jump on a forum just to rant. You're surprised Mazda won't fix something for free when your warranty expired? Not a new thing for companies to do. They make warranties long enough to cover what they believe to be the point at which any minor manufacturing problems would sort itself out. If you got it new and you were that concerned, you should have bought extended warranty. If you bought it used, what can you expect? You don't know what was done to it before you had it. Like was said, just because you had a Honda product that lasted long for you doesn't mean that it, as a company, has no problems with reliability. Nor does it mean all Mazda's have the same problems. There are people on here that have cars with very high mileage bought new and still running like new. Jumping on a forum like this going "OMG, MAZDA SUCKS, DON'T BUY!!!" just because you personally don't like it is a bit too dramatic.

Shawn
07-21-2010, 03:49 PM
How close is it out of warranty? When did you actually purchase vs when warranty officially started. If you regularly used the dealer for service, they might have been more willing to cover.

MistaChin
07-21-2010, 03:51 PM
lol @ this thread

Iceman_F1
07-21-2010, 03:52 PM
How close is it out of warranty? When did you actually purchase vs when warranty officially started. If you regularly used the dealer for service, they might have been more willing to cover.

Based on the OP post, it was ~5,000KM out. I can agree that some dealerships are better than others and if you always go to one they are more willing to help out if they can. That being said, even if you are turned down because of warranty out after that long, you really have nothing to complain about.

JSI
07-21-2010, 04:05 PM
lol @ this thread

+1

Seriously, what do you expect. It's out of warranty, you are SOL. All cars break, hell everything breaks eventually.

WeatherB
07-21-2010, 04:31 PM
Funny you mention Honda... I just saw two newer generation Civics (say post-2005) broken down on the 404 in the southbound lane, and this was all between 16th Avenue and Finch. Haha.

Sounds like the OP was hoping that the dealership would bend the rules and cover the repairs when the car is clearly out of warranty. Not sure why you would expect someone else to foot the bills for your repairs in this economy and with capitalism hard at work.

Shawn
07-21-2010, 04:45 PM
Sounds like the OP was hoping that the dealership would bend the rules and cover the repairs when the car is clearly out of warranty. Not sure why you would expect someone else to foot the bills for your repairs in this economy and with capitalism hard at work.

True, but it has happened before. Cannot hurt to try, just got to be nice about it if it fails.

Jeff-TheBiz
07-21-2010, 04:58 PM
Again the importance of extended warranty is confirmed.

JSI
07-22-2010, 11:14 AM
Again the importance of extended warranty is confirmed.

LOL..........:huge smile salesmen, what can I say.

bluemazda3
07-23-2010, 05:16 AM
lol true dat

Mr Fatty
07-23-2010, 12:15 PM
I can understand where OP is coming from. From the 3 Acura 1.6 ELs I've owned and the 1998 Civic CX i daily drive to Waterloo every day, those cars are so solidly built. Between the 4 cars, only one had mechanical problems, and that would be one of the door actuators going; the rest, just things changed out like bearings and timing belt/water pump.

I'm a bit worried about my 05 GT because after I got the car from my friend, I was hearing things about some Mazda 3s having serious electrical issues, things breaking... I'm not looking forward to any un-needed expenses. I suppose people should expect things to happen now, with every single new car coming out with electronic systems up the wazoo, so I would say that buying a new car, regardless of make, you'd probably have more unexpected issues than the older, simpler cars. Honda, Mazda, Toyota, whatever.. everything is power this, power that, more things to go wrong... and i suppose as a result, more costly to fix... lol

BlueJoe
07-23-2010, 01:42 PM
Thats insane, if that happend to me i'd be out my mind. Ive had tonns of problems too, I feel your pain. Mazda dealership wont look at my "moving steering wheel" either. When my steering wheel is locked you can still move it around with some force its really dangerous. and lol Jeffs so funny! :)

crono06
07-23-2010, 06:12 PM
We have an 07 Civic in the family, and the current gen Civics actually have this problem where when it gets too hot, the sun visor can expand and break off.

This is something that SHOULD NOT be happening, but it does. I'm 2 months out of warranty and they won't fix it. Oh well.

m3mtl
07-23-2010, 08:16 PM
I have a used mazda 3 sport 2004 which now had 108 000 kms. Had to change:

- E brake cable
- shifter cable
- belt tensioner
- both front wheel bearings
-strut leak (rear)

Warranty work:

Both rear doors due to rust on b pillar
semi tranny rebuild due to 3rd gear grind
fan assembly replaced

I love this car but I owned a 92 Accord and that was a solid car. No problems whatsoever except for ball joints, the car has like 6 of them. The car was 18 years old and never did have these problems. Wheel bearing, no. Strut leak?? I went over a median with my old honda with my back tire and no damage. You know what I still love 2004-2009 mazda 3. Even if they are rust buckets...

Chester_Lampwick
07-23-2010, 08:36 PM
I have 2008 mazda 3 sport gt and 50,000km the power steering pump went than at 85000km the winshield wiper motor went. MAZDA WILL NOT COVER WIPER MOTOR SINCE WARRANTY HAD JUST RUN OUT. I LOVE IT WHEN A COMPANY SELLS YOU SOMETHING AND CAN'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. NO WAY THIS SHOULD OF HAPPENED.. Of course the motor went when i was in a big rain storm and you dont realize how important they are till you dont have them. Can anyone else tell me what will break on this car next? Can you say Honda. had acura integra 220,000 km and not one thing went wrong with it...the thing was bulletproof. Now i pay more for the mazda and its falling apart.... any suggestions

So you never budgeted any money for repairs? Really? I mean what's a wiper motor repair? $300? Maybe less if you can swing your own wrench. Do you ever budget for new tires, battery, or brakes? This isn't a very significant repair, IMO. Some Hondas are notorious for premature transmission failure. Like '99 to '04 Odysseys. Thats like a $4000 repair and a week of downtime.

sarujo
07-25-2010, 10:12 AM
All the late model Japanese cars were pretty much bulletproof, especially those from Honda, Toyota and Nissan. Everything is made differently now, so yeah, things are going to break. The OP is complaining over a wiper motor, and then compares this to a very old Acura. Hondas are no longer that durable either. Check out all the problems Civic owners have in this URL. Honda has a TSB out for 2006 and later models b/c of cracking blocks! Yes, cracking blocks! And lets not even get into the Toyota issues... :chuckle

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2006/engine/cracked_engine_block.shtml Check out post #84


Funny you mention Honda... I just saw two newer generation Civics (say post-2005) broken down on the 404 in the southbound lane, and this was all between 16th Avenue and Finch. Haha.

m3mtl
07-25-2010, 11:15 AM
All the late model Japanese cars were pretty much bulletproof, especially those from Honda, Toyota and Nissan. Everything is made differently now, so yeah, things are going to break. The OP is complaining over a wiper motor, and then compares this to a very old Acura. Hondas are no longer that durable either. Check out all the problems Civic owners have in this URL. Honda has a TSB out for 2006 and later models b/c of cracking blocks! Yes, cracking blocks! And lets not even get into the Toyota issues... :chuckle

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2006/engine/cracked_engine_block.shtml Check out post #84

It is true what you say. In the late 80s and early 90 Japanese cars had to make a statement that their cars were technically superior. Now that they have built that reputation the quality level has gone closer to the domestic brands.

Rob23
07-25-2010, 11:21 AM
probably just a lemon. that is strange tho.

stevenma188
07-25-2010, 01:12 PM
I actually believe that Mazda has superior quality over most "Japanese" cars, as most Hondas/Toyotas are now made in North America, whereas Mazdas are actually still made in Japan.

Rob23
07-25-2010, 01:18 PM
I actually believe that Mazda has superior quality over most "Japanese" cars, as most Hondas/Toyotas are now made in North America, whereas Mazdas are actually still made in Japan.

the mazda 3 yes but not all mazdas, some are made in north america too like the 6, the tribute etc.

stevenma188
07-25-2010, 01:18 PM
^Thanks for the correction

crono06
07-25-2010, 09:26 PM
I think there's only like 3 cars or so in the lineup that are made in NA

McGuyver_3
07-26-2010, 12:58 AM
go to the scrap yard pick up a motor for anywere between 60-120$ and eithe do the work yourself if you are handy or have a sponsor on the board do it.

Chester_Lampwick
07-28-2010, 07:43 PM
Drove home in the rain, and the wipers on my car seemed to work fine. Go figure...

Fuman
07-28-2010, 08:23 PM
rain-x will be a good friend for you right now

McGuyver_3
07-29-2010, 03:30 AM
rain-x will be a good friend for you right now

that and or wax your windshield it does wonder :chuckle

Souls
09-04-2010, 07:10 PM
I have 2008 mazda 3 sport gt and 50,000km the power steering pump went than at 85000km the winshield wiper motor went.

no mention in your rant if you actually checked the fuse first eh? if one of your headlights goes out, are you running to the dealership for a new headlight assembly too? no, you check the basics first.

and there's a power steering recall...check "Known Issues, Technical Service Bulletins (TSB's), & Recalls" forum, there's a huge thread on it, can't miss it


lol @ this thread

x3

TheMAN
09-05-2010, 05:26 AM
wow such a new thread...

me and my family will NEVER buy a toyota again because my mom's (japanese made) corolla's rear power window motor just died and the ECU is getting recalled! OMG I can't believe this, the car only has 34k on it and it's only 3 years old! TOYOTA WILL NOT COVER WINDOW MOTOR SINCE WARRANTY HAD JUST RUN OUT. I LOVE IT WHEN A COMPANY SELLS YOU SOMETHING AND CAN'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. NO WAY THIS SHOULD OF HAPPENED. japanese made quality my butt!!! I'm never buying toyota again and no one should! :blah

McGuyver_3
09-05-2010, 06:06 AM
wow such a new thread...

me and my family will NEVER buy a toyota again because my mom's (japanese made) corolla's rear power window motor just died and the ECU is getting recalled! OMG I can't believe this, the car only has 34k on it and it's only 3 years old! TOYOTA WILL NOT COVER WINDOW MOTOR SINCE WARRANTY HAD JUST RUN OUT. I LOVE IT WHEN A COMPANY SELLS YOU SOMETHING AND CAN'T STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. NO WAY THIS SHOULD OF HAPPENED. japanese made quality my butt!!! I'm never buying toyota again and no one should! :blah

You do understand that things fail regardless of how old they are right? I have seen cars where the customer picks up the car drives off of the lot and returns within 20 minutes because they have noticed something wasnt working. And during the pdi recheck it was still working normally. SHIT happens. My 10 was already part of 2 recals and possibly soon a 3rd one for the power steering as my production date is still Nov 08. In your case the company did stand behind their product for 3 years and the dealer covering an item jjust after warranty finish can all come down to how good of a customer you have been with that dealer. If you have gone heir religiously then they may cover it under whats called a "good will warranty" of course that is up to the dealer

TheMAN
09-05-2010, 06:38 AM
apparently, you failed to see the sarcasm

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/hlmindustries/Grabbed/failboat.jpg

gnwiii
09-05-2010, 07:21 AM
The 2003 Deming Prize went to Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., an Indian tractor company <http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2003/10/14/stories/2003101401860300.htm>. At the time, the president of Toyota, who was involved in determining who gets the award, said Japan was falling behind India and Korea in quality. Too bad the auto press didn't catch on until 5 years later.

McGuyver_3
09-05-2010, 12:42 PM
apparently, you failed to see the sarcasm

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/hlmindustries/Grabbed/failboat.jpg

apprently i must have as the reply was written relatively well

mazda lover
09-05-2010, 12:52 PM
rain-x will be a good friend for you right now

+++ 1 ^^^^ depending how heavy the rain is, time of day and speed I am travelling I can drive for miles and miles and not use the wipers only an occasional single wipe... I also wax my windows side and back but not the front, never tried the front since I use the rain X in my wiper bottle.

TheMAN
09-05-2010, 05:33 PM
apprently i must have as the reply was written relatively well

so well in fact that it was serious and not facetious?

McGuyver_3
09-05-2010, 07:30 PM
i guess now that i read it again it actually made me laugh