Sooooooo when is the snow really coming??

[Thrizzl3]

i was looking at the weather network website and it said that there will be light snow next sunday..i don't know is this is true but seeing how many times the forecasters have been wrong i don't really believe them lol..when do you think its coming?

[bluemazda3]

I usually dont want snow... but I really wanna try out my toyos....

[Ogata]

Good Morning Phil. Up so early on a Sunday? I am going to switch mine on Thursday since we will not be hitting 15 degree weather anytime soon. I'd say late November.

[Takumi616]

had my Toyo put on by Jimmy @ SP a week ago, don't really like waiting till the last min.......

[SilentJay]

If I ever got my way, snow would never be here. Send it all someplace where they'd need it... Like Miami :chuckle

[bman13]

November 21, 2010

[ovie8]

I usually dont want snow... but I really wanna try out my toyos....

+1...first time having winters...really want to try out my hankooks!!! so I'm looking for snowfall ASAP....just one is enough though lol!!!

[PCLoadLetter]

If I ever got my way, snow would never be here. Send it all someplace where they'd need it... Like Miami :chuckle
Why don't you ship yourself down to Miami instead and leave the snow here for people who actually enjoy it such as myself? We are in Canada by the way :chuckle

I'm so pumped for snowboarding. The sooner the snow comes, the better.

[Jackal]

Putting my winters on Nov. 30. Previous years snow came in early December so we'll see. If a major one comes down I am in trouble.

[bluemazda3]

im hoping some will fall this week!!!

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Snowed briefly here in Newmarket in the late afternoon/early evening.

[Thrizzl3]

i remember last week seeing some light light flurries but i think my eyes were deceiving me in some way lol. either way im prepared.

[still2ill]

its not going to be snowing this winter

[bluemazda3]

lol...this week or next for sure

[Thrizzl3]

lol...this week or next for sure

wow you really want the snow to come lol

[bluemazda3]

gotta test out the toyos!!!! so yes i want snow and i want it now!!!! :)

[Thrizzl3]

gotta test out the toyos!!!! so yes i want snow and i want it now!!!! :)

it will come soon lol..don't you worry lol im playing the waiting game just like you

[taz4432]

had my Toyo put on by Jimmy @ SP a week ago, don't really like waiting till the last min.......

Throw 'em on yourself! =D

Haha...I can't wait for snow. I need to test out my uhh...err...e-brake! =) And by e-brake I mean winters. Yes...that's it.

[Soyabean]

I heard the in the states somewhere they had a real big snow storm hit or something. Like over 400 accidents and 2 deaths in 1 day. I also heard like phil mentioned that it will come over to us next week

[klym]

Yeah I'm thinkin a couple more weeks. Either way, snows are going on very soon

[laksman91]

I'm still on Summers lol FML please dont come till December

[05Mazda3GT]

Hopefully the snow never comes so I can stay on my summers.

I HATE STEELIES! :complain

[thanu31]

use ur stock rims or some cheap aftermarket rims :) ^


i cant wait for the snow... just waiting for the crazy storm lol

[mzkaye729]

use ur stock rims or some cheap aftermarket rims :) ^


i cant wait for the snow... just waiting for the crazy storm lol

How dare you recommend cheap aftermarket rims when your "winter mode" rims aren't even cheap !! Hypocrite lol just kidding, Thanu. I haven't built a bridge and got over your so-called "winter setup" hahaha

And I'm totally waiting on the snowstorm too :) forecast for this week calls for snow. I can't wait ! Hopefully the forecast is right.

[prinsesa]

It started snowing 2 weeks ago lol but it was very light and it snows overnight so when you wake up, everything has melted.

[TokyoKiller]

It snowed on the night before Halloween in Ottawa 2 weeks ago.

Picture: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=917370&l=d61e4488b0&id=1650030133

[hastiej]

last year we had a late start to the winter, I'm going to go as far as to say no snow for November.. my american friends.. however, don't understand why we don't have snow yet... and they live in Chicago... i mean... really... :bang

[MAZDA Kitten]

Put my winters on about a month ago now. My summers are toast anyways

Might be light flurries but I dont think a real snow fall is gonna happen till late December at least. We've had green Christmas's before; they are predicting a warm winter this year

[Thrizzl3]

ooo can't wait for the first snow fall :D

[Thrizzl3]

so it snowed today a little bit..this morning was kinda slippery..had trouble gripping the road under light acceleration..anyone notice this?

[S.F.W.]

so it snowed today a little bit..this morning was kinda slippery..had trouble gripping the road under light acceleration..anyone notice this?

yep, coming out of the rink this morning, there were traces of snow on the car.

[dave2010GT]

IT SNOWED!!!!! god i can't wait to hit the slopes

[PCLoadLetter]

IT SNOWED!!!!! god i can't wait to hit the slopes
There's no "Like" button so I'll just quote you.

[taz4432]

There's no "Like" button so I'll just quote you.

You forgot the "+1!"

[Kappa]

i almost crashed my 3 2 times over last two days... turns out star specs aren't great in the snow... its like driving on ski's

[cwp_sedan]

IT SNOWED!!!!! god i can't wait to hit the slopes

Definitely looking forward to getting on the hills this year. :)

[hastiej]

+ 14 today in London, and +13 tomorrow... FML..

[Delete]

It snowed here in Mississauga. well have a storm on christmas or late December I think

[bman13]

November 21, 2010

:huge smile

[thanu31]

hey
Im really getting lazy to take my lip/splitters off, am i really running a big risk of breaking it?

i mean the roads get cleared all the time right, so what am i watching out for? uncleaned roads? lol share some experiences to scare mee

[S.F.W.]

hey
Im really getting lazy to take my lip/splitters off, am i really running a big risk of breaking it?

i mean the roads get cleared all the time right, so what am i watching out for? uncleaned roads? lol share some experiences to scare mee

You are watching out for uncleaned roads. Sliding on ice and hitting curb. Snow banks, etc. Taking off the lip is really simple, should take 5 minutes at most.

[TheMaterial]

crazy snow fall in London today....All I have to say is praise snow tires!

[bubba1983]

everywhere around kitchener got snow...everywhere except us. was watching the weather network on tv today, we were in this little protected pocket of nothing gah

[STeeLy]

It's snowing in Ottawa... has been since early afternoon and it hasn't stopped.

[laksman91]

We're getting 40-50cm by tmrw afternoon here in London...

[aris]

We're getting 40-50cm by tmrw afternoon here in London...

Holy crap that is alot of snow

[Unoriginalusername]

depending on where you are, its already here
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/cndxrs/photo.jpg

Was in collingwood area this weekend

[malfunktion]

Aurora & newmarket just got pwned o_o. im scared to go outside lol

[TokyoKiller]

Ottawa got a nice amount of snow, but we are expecting more over the next 48 hours.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Snow skipped Mississauga.

[mazdaskit]

my new snow tires worked this morning getting out of my valley :) lol

[Hyperion]

Richmond Hill got a good amount. Summer tires are still on.... slippery as ****. Stopping takes 4x the distance. Drove to school in 3rd gear.

[ovie8]

Can it snow already in Waterloo..watever we got last night pretty much melted already...I WANT to test out my snow tires!!!!!!

[prinsesa]

Thank you Snow for skipping Mississauga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FLIPDADY]

Slapped on my 18" Michelin summers on Saturday, they are actually pretty good in the snow. Selling my 17" Blizzaks this morning because they rubbed like crazy.

[stevenma188]

You guys have no idea how badly London got it. Foot of snow yesterday, foot of snow today, foot of snow forecasted for tomorrow. My snow tires are definitely earning their keep.

[blackmica10]

depending on where you are, its already here
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/cndxrs/photo.jpg

Was in collingwood area this weekend
this is EXACTLY what i wanna see. cant wait to get out to blue mountain and shred a bit. can finally sign myself up for the terrain park :D lol

[aZuMi]

My snow tires are definitely earning their keep.

+1 This is the first year I'll be having my snow tires and I'm surprised with how well my car grips the snow.

[froggy]

this is EXACTLY what i wanna see. cant wait to get out to blue mountain and shred a bit. can finally sign myself up for the terrain park :D lol

once they finally open up we've got to set up a TM3 snow day at blue mountain. skiing boarding, beaver tails,chasing snow bunnies :chuckle

[blackmica10]

once they finally open up we've got to set up a TM3 snow day at blue mountain. skiing boarding, beaver tails,chasing snow bunnies :chuckle
that would actually be a crazy idea! we should most def start a roll call for some time during the christmas break?

[stevenma188]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs778.snc4/67827_466763287313_511112313_5790633_4249683_n.jpg

Welcome to London!

[aris]

Nice... I wish we got that kind of snow lol

[bubba1983]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs778.snc4/67827_466763287313_511112313_5790633_4249683_n.jpg

Welcome to London!

thats redic. considering london is less than an hour away from me. I wonder where on the 401 the transition starts, hmm

[jonjon72]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs778.snc4/67827_466763287313_511112313_5790633_4249683_n.jpg

Welcome to London!


Damn, thats alot of snow..........thank god for underground parking!

[froggy]

that would actually be a crazy idea! we should most def start a roll call for some time during the christmas break?

I personally prefer night skiing, less people, you don't go blind from the snow, the people who are on the hills are usually more capable so no worrying about running into "noobs" :chuckle

[STeeLy]

I personally prefer night skiing, less people, you don't go blind from the snow, the people who are on the hills are usually more capable so no worrying about running into "noobs" :chuckle

Dude, they're worth 10 points.

Kids are 20.

[froggy]

Dude, they're worth 10 points.

Kids are 20.

lol so how much are noob kids worth ???

[xdutrax]

Richmond Hill got a good amount. Summer tires are still on.... slippery as ****. Stopping takes 4x the distance. Drove to school in 3rd gear.

Im in Oshawa and I hear ya. Still have my snow tires on and I drove around in 3rd to be "safe" lol. Seen numerous cars hop the curb last night because they couldn't stop lol.

[horto]

woodstock. it's always snowing in woodstock. even in july :P



thats redic. considering london is less than an hour away from me. I wonder where on the 401 the transition starts, hmm

[STeeLy]

lol so how much are noob kids worth ???

Noob = 10, kids = 20

noob + kids = 30

noob kids are 30 points.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I'm at a Canadian Tire winter driving seminar tomorrow lol. Fitting.

[froggy]

Noob = 10, kids = 20

noob + kids = 30

noob kids are 30 points.


lol no multiplyer bonus?

[STeeLy]

lol no multiplyer bonus?

if you hit something within 10 seconds of the previous thing you hit, its a +1...

so if you hit 3 noob kids in about 20 seconds, that's 270 points.

[hincapie]

has been snowing in Schomberg (west of Newmarket) since Saturday nite.....non stop

[Thrizzl3]

so who had to scrape ice off their car?

[mazdaskit]

so who had to scrape ice off their car?

yep lol & my door almost didnt open... ahh winter:(

[ST3ALTH]

Not me! my car was snuggled away in my garage lol. But my parents car doors were frozen shut lol

[mazdaskit]

Not me! my car was snuggled away in my garage lol. But my parents car doors were frozen shut lol

:getout loll

[bluemazda3]

Finally got some snow in Hamilton... :headbang

[bubba1983]

same for the kdub here

[FoXy]

Man I love parking in the garage!

Gotta park it outside at work tho during the day! lol Can't win'em all!

[tweak_s]

Doors were pretty much frozen shut.

Ran into a problem that on my way to the subway station my doors kept listing as "open" even though i triple checked that they were closed which led to me not being able to lock the doors.

I dropped the GF off at the station because she was late and I didn't REALLY need to go downtown today (but wanted to study), and was uncomfortable of parking in the pay-TTC lot and risk not being able to lock the doors... so I pulled to a plaza to check out the doors. Looked at the "sensors" and one of them had a tad of ice so i moved it off, got in the car and the symbol was still on :(.

I turned off the engine and logged onto TM3 to search haha, but then the light turned off and everything is okay? I hope?! hahaha...

[SirWanker]

yep lol & my door almost didnt open... ahh winter:(

Ditto here which was not surprising considering yesterday's rain.

[SirWanker]

Doors were pretty much frozen shut.

Ran into a problem that on my way to the subway station my doors kept listing as "open" even though i triple checked that they were closed which led to me not being able to lock the doors.

I dropped the GF off at the station because she was late and I didn't REALLY need to go downtown today (but wanted to study), and was uncomfortable of parking in the pay-TTC lot and risk not being able to lock the doors... so I pulled to a plaza to check out the doors. Looked at the "sensors" and one of them had a tad of ice so i moved it off, got in the car and the symbol was still on :(.

I turned off the engine and logged onto TM3 to search haha, but then the light turned off and everything is okay? I hope?! hahaha...

Funny, I had the same issue. There were no obstructions to the sensors but due to the cold ( was parked outside overnight) the locking mechanism did not fully engage. I had to use a wee bit more force to close the door before the car would lock.

[prinsesa]

Are you happy now? >=(

[Thrizzl3]

Are you happy now? >=(

you must be sooo happy right now:chuckle

[stevenma188]

A week and a half later, and it's STILL snowing in London.

[froggy]

I wonder if any of our members are stuck on the 402?? :(

[Skip]

Funny, I had the same issue. There were no obstructions to the sensors but due to the cold ( was parked outside overnight) the locking mechanism did not fully engage. I had to use a wee bit more force to close the door before the car would lock.

Same here, all i did last year was just leave the car in a garage and it went away. I was scared driving home though, as that light wouldnt turn off and i had to turn off my inside lights

[hit26k]

be happy you werent in woodbridge this afternoon. this is from my office window...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs791.snc4/67170_10150364328270273_615890272_16231886_412612_ n.jpg

[aris]

I was is in Ottawa this morning and they got alot of snow... Roads were slippery

[Thrizzl3]

no snow stops me :D

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/163148_484004397317_501977317_5762606_4771168_n.jp g

[bubba1983]

can't wait to see the hoards of snow on my way thru london friday...heading to sarnia for the weekend!!

[TheMaterial]

and like steven said...it's snowing again, there calling for another 20cm over night..I am really sick of shoveling the end of my driveway after the snow plow goes by

[TokyoKiller]

I was is in Ottawa this morning and they got alot of snow... Roads were slippery

Yeah its nasty here.

[laksman91]

no snow stops me :D

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/guranteed_justice/163148_484004397317_501977317_5762606_4771168_n.jp g

needs spacers

[aris]

Yeah its nasty here.

It got me off guard cause Belleville was perfect weather then when I get to Ottawa I was like WTF lol

[Roconne]

and like steven said...it's snowing again, there calling for another 20cm over night..I am really sick of shoveling the end of my driveway after the snow plow goes byI'm in London for the week as well and luckily staying at a condo, so we have property maintenance guys come buy and plow the parking lot. No shoveling for me (except for clearing out my car)

[STeeLy]

I'm in London for the week as well and luckily staying at a condo, so we have property maintenance guys come buy and plow the parking lot. No shoveling for me (except for clearing out my car)

You use a shovel to take snow off your car?

[bman13]

be happy you werent in woodbridge this afternoon. this is from my office window...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs791.snc4/67170_10150364328270273_615890272_16231886_412612_ n.jpg

I was/am...was at Walmart and had no trouble...but a lot of drivers did. Shoveled and then when done driveway was already getting coated with snow again.

I got some pics from Walmart/Road area on my fone. I'll upload em.

[hit26k]

I was/am...was at Walmart and had no trouble...but a lot of drivers did. Shoveled and then when done driveway was already getting coated with snow again.

I got some pics from Walmart/Road area on my fone. I'll upload em.

thats so strange. this was by weston road and steeles.

[VaderX]

Was awesome driving on 401 around james snow parkway last sunday night :headbang

[SSmoked]

who elese is rockin the 2-tone paint job?
i have more of a tri-color going. salt half way up the car from the bottom. black for about 1 foot, the rest frozen snow.

[stillmatic]

who elese is rockin the 2-tone paint job?
i have more of a tri-color going. salt half way up the car from the bottom. black for about 1 foot, the rest frozen snow.

i've got flames down the sides of my car made of dirt :(

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I blame Phil for cursing all of us by starting this thread. I say we take him out the back and beat him silly with chicken drumsticks.

[hit26k]

I blame Phil for cursing all of us by starting this thread. I say we take him out the back and beat him silly with chicken drumsticks.

:agree

[bman13]

thats so strange. this was by weston road and steeles.

This one is walking out of Walmart.


http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2910/img2010121400081.th.jpg (http://img830.imageshack.us/i/img2010121400081.jpg/)

[hit26k]

This one is walking out of Walmart.

yea, that doesn't look as bad. Walmart is only 5 mins down hwy 7. but when i left work at 5, my car had at least a foot of snow sitting on it. so weird.

[Thrizzl3]

I blame Phil for cursing all of us by starting this thread. I say we take him out the back and beat him silly with chicken drumsticks.

so because you made fun of me..it started snowing again..keep it up :)

[laksman91]

so because you made fun of me..it started snowing again..keep it up :)

insteada making it rain, phils gonna make it snow LOL

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

insteada making it rain, phils gonna make it snow LOL

and he knows if you've been naughty or good, so be good for....

[Thrizzl3]

guess its not going to be a white xmas:(

[FoXy]

hey.... there is still snow on the GROUND

[Thrizzl3]

ya but i want it to be snowing when i look outside! lol

[horto]

Reviving this thread due to an inch of snow on my car this morning.

I saw this on reddit and laughed. Someone needs to do this with one of the new 3's smiley face grills.

http://i.imgur.com/ZXtNG.jpg

[hit26k]

^^LOL

they look like Jeff's avatar.

[Thrizzl3]

WOW! who's bored enough to do that!!! lol

[cwp_sedan]

Reviving this thread due to an inch of snow on my car this morning.

I saw this on reddit and laughed. Someone needs to do this with one of the new 3's smiley face grills.

http://i.imgur.com/ZXtNG.jpg

This is amazing! :)

[towelsnap]

on the drive to work today :(

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt9/towelsnap/39eabafe.jpg

I'm at a intersection... but you can't really tell.... visibility 1 towelsnap 0

[cwp_sedan]

on the drive to work today :(

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt9/towelsnap/39eabafe.jpg

I'm at a intersection... but you can't really tell.... visibility 1 towelsnap 0

Holy crap. Glad I'm not out Kingston way :S

[Default User]

off to find an empty parking lot now!
woot woot!

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

on the drive to work today :(

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt9/towelsnap/39eabafe.jpg

I'm at a intersection... but you can't really tell.... visibility 1 towelsnap 0

Looks like this up here in Newmarket right now.

[cwp_sedan]

Yeah I spoke too soon! It's a mess in Markham right now. Just went out in it and it is slippery!

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

I was just out in it and already a few accidents on the roads. It seems to be a mixture of snow and freezing rain. Oh joy.

I think maybe I'll put on my summer tires now. LOL. :)

[Thrizzl3]

how bad is it out there?

[ST3ALTH]

how bad is it out there?

pretty nasty.....

[JonsMazda]

Haha, and someone wanted to switch over to summer tires.....

[SSmoked]

yea it was pretty bad when coming home from yorku. steeles and jane was snow covered roads, than up by weston and hwy7 it was just wet. but it doesnt matter people forget of to drive when the white stuff is coming down.

[Thrizzl3]

actually saw an accident happen...scary shit

[SSmoked]

i forgot to mention my epic fail.
so im coming down my street and its covered in slippery snow. i start thinking drift time baby. so i turn onto my court and there snow. im in second gear, lift the ebrake and start getting sideways on the gas... than the car snaps back to before getting sideways. damn Electronice Stability Control. soo cheezed. POS cobalt and its safety features.

[towelsnap]

Holy crap. Glad I'm not out Kingston way :S

ya the picture doesn't do any justice.... couldn't see a damn thing 20 feet in front of you. So if T.O got hit again... it's moving towards us... fantastic … :( . We should have a picture competition of the worst road conditions.

[stillmatic]

I just saw lightning and heard thunder....and its snowing hard...what the heck is going on???? :whoa

btw, I'm in Markham.

[towelsnap]

I just saw lightning and heard thunder....and its snowing hard...what the heck is going on???? :whoa

btw, I'm in Markham.


Their doing it wrong 2012 isn't till next year lol

[stillmatic]

and the leafs just won too.....something isnt right

[Thrizzl3]

who else is shovelling their driveway?

[thanu31]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_LAU04LOro-A/TSaKA19QVsI/AAAAAAAACQg/uDLW2ZU9Ds8/s912/snowplow.jpg

snow plower :)

Lip is good as new :P hope i dont jinx it

[Thrizzl3]

omg thanu your so cool with your SWC sedan lmao

[thanu31]

snow white crystal? Lol whts swc

[Thrizzl3]

snow white covered....lol

[Skip]

lol..i had to shovel, i love it when my neighbour decides to do my whole sidewalk for me with his snowblower lol

[FoXy]

holy snow!! lol... that was fun!!

[stillmatic]

I shovelled earlier tonight and now it looks like I didn't shovel at all

[The Johal]

loook OUTSIDE!!!! :whoa

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

snow white covered....lol

Works for me...:)

http://www.dunbarcostumes.co.uk/acatalog/83556.jpg

[cwp_sedan]

Works for me...:)

http://www.dunbarcostumes.co.uk/acatalog/83556.jpg

:thumbsup

[She_Prime]

Silly silly boys...

[cwp_sedan]

Silly silly boys...

What? :chuckle

[She_Prime]

I'm just going to blame this on the fact that Tim is a dirty old man and you're delirious Ryan since it's late :chuckle

Anyways Hamilton seemed to get a pretty bad covering. But it's since stopped and I hope it stays that way.

[prinsesa]

damn too tired to shovel my driveway -_-
*car stays in garage*

[melissa]

I just saw lightning and heard thunder....and its snowing hard...what the heck is going on???? :whoa

btw, I'm in Markham.

maybe a snow plow truck going by

[thanu31]

nope it was thunder and lighting, at one point my girl and i thought someone was taking pictures of our car LOL

[FoXy]

Yes I did wonder about the lightning too... I was like wtf was that?? and then when it happened again i really started getting weirded out... then I came on here and saw I wasnt the only one who saw it... it was bizarre

[Dave_The_BMXER]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_LAU04LOro-A/TSaKA19QVsI/AAAAAAAACQg/uDLW2ZU9Ds8/s912/snowplow.jpg


You need

http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/30039365/300.jpg

[jonjon72]

Drove from Markham to downtown after work and the DVP was a mess. The drive took over 1.5 hours so the GF took a nap. Heard thunder and was like "WTF?". What pissed me off the most were people driving in two lanes since they couldn't see the lines and going 10km an hour!

[thanu31]

Drove from Markham to downtown after work and the DVP was a mess. The drive took over 1.5 hours so the GF took a nap. Heard thunder and was like "WTF?". What pissed me off the most were people driving in two lanes since they couldn't see the lines and going 10km an hour!

had the same problem, frig its annoying.... just stay home ppl

[VertigoM]

had the same problem, frig its annoying.... just stay home ppl

Agreed. Toronto has by far the worst winter drivers. 5cm of snow and the entire city comes to a stand still... it's ridiculous.

[towelsnap]

Agreed. Toronto has by far the worst winter drivers. 5cm of snow and the entire city comes to a stand still... it's ridiculous.

lol http://www.tuningclubnoordholland.nl/e107/123/e107_images/emotes/Yahoo/this_thread_is_worthless_without_pics.gif

[Dave_The_BMXER]

^
Lowrider (literally in the snow)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs040.snc6/167001_10150350662995551_438770560550_16614705_681 8550_n.jpg

[Thrizzl3]

WHAT!? he's so brave...

[Dave_The_BMXER]

14" wires in the snow with tons of positive camber up front? What could go wrong!?

[Kappa]

lol dave i want that Mr. Plow sticker haha i got a few stickers from your site for my new window / mirror plan ;)