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Thrizzl3
11-23-2010, 12:01 PM
post your thoughts, opinions, pros, cons anything good or bad about the game here!!!
my con is where the heck is the clutch feature...? forza 3 had it?? why doesn't gt5 have it?
Roconne
11-23-2010, 12:27 PM
post your thoughts, opinions, pros, cons anything good or bad about the game here!!!
my con is where the heck is the clutch feature...? forza 3 had it?? why doesn't gt5 have it? You talking about clutch with the DS3? I know you can use the clutch on your wheels, but I don't think there is one on the controller.
Thrizzl3
11-23-2010, 12:34 PM
You talking about clutch with the DS3? I know you can use the clutch on your wheels, but I don't think there is one on the controller.
no there isn't...ill be getting the G27 soon..but i wish they had it on the controller :(
Roconne
11-23-2010, 12:36 PM
My biggest complaint so far: Can't disable the hud. :(
WingZero_
11-23-2010, 12:39 PM
How are you guys playing it? Found someone that would sell it early? I will have mine as soon as Futureshop ships it.
psn: matthewcrabbe
Thrizzl3
11-23-2010, 12:41 PM
lol when you get it we will have a tm3 race..12 car lineup instead of the 6
since i'm from brampton, ya'll better lookout when i join the race...
imma aim right for phil's car....
you need to know the right ppl
like Phil =)
How are you guys playing it? Found someone that would sell it early? I will have mine as soon as Futureshop ships it.
psn: matthewcrabbe
SSmoked
11-23-2010, 02:00 PM
Biggest CON= no Cobalt SS. :(
does this game have drag racing with the tree? if so 100% doing that online. i had some monster 10sec RWD cars in forza3.
Roconne
11-23-2010, 03:46 PM
There also isn't a MS3 in GT5. :(
I ended up going with the Mazda Familia (protege) as my starting car lol.
shu5892001
11-23-2010, 03:47 PM
So there is Mazda 3/Axela?
Dave_The_BMXER
11-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Didn't even know it was out yet. So videogame behind.
Roconne
11-23-2010, 04:02 PM
So there is Mazda 3/Axela?Yeah, there is a 2003 Axela 23S in this. I think that's the only 3 though.
SSmoked
11-23-2010, 04:08 PM
yea the car list is sad. why have 100 s200 50 miatas and like soo many of the same car? could have had more different cars.
dragons4life
11-23-2010, 04:18 PM
Screw Mazda when you start you gotta go with a AE86 or EG6 lol.
WingZero_
11-23-2010, 05:59 PM
Just got notification of shipment from FS.
Kevin@nextmod
11-23-2010, 06:02 PM
Anyone know if EB will open tonight to pick up pre orders?
tweak_s
11-23-2010, 06:14 PM
Good question Kevin lol; I'm curious myself!
I don't think so though, game's not big enough IMO to do that. I wish they would though..
philipfreire
11-23-2010, 06:29 PM
No Mazda3's. Not even a speed. Just RX7 and RX8 so far. Miata/MX5 is in it too.. Game is fun.
Biggest con: Slow load times, cars load a bit slowly for my liking, not all the latest cars, cant see interior view when driving on some cars, collision is not as accurate as it should be, no clutch feature (but the steering wheel will fix that)
pros: graphic are great, simulation is pretty good, 69 camaro z28 (THATS FOR U JOE!) lol
overall good game. :) lots to learn, just starting my gt career.
Kevin@nextmod
11-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Just called EB at markville mall. They said there not opening for midnight for this game.
Roconne
11-23-2010, 06:57 PM
No Mazda3's. Not even a speed. Just RX7 and RX8 so far. Miata/MX5 is in it too.. Game is fun.
Biggest con: Slow load times, cars load a bit slowly for my liking, not all the latest cars, cant see interior view when driving on some cars, collision is not as accurate as it should be, no clutch feature (but the steering wheel will fix that)
pros: graphic are great, simulation is pretty good, 69 camaro z28 (THATS FOR U JOE!) lol
overall good game. :) lots to learn, just starting my gt career.
Damage progresses as you level higher into the game. I saw a video earlier today of a guy level 40 and his car would get damaged super easily. I don't really like that they decided to implement damage that way, but oh well.
Also, there is a mazda 3. There is a protege, mazda3, mazda6, mx5, rx7, rx8.
And yeah, there is SOOOO much to do in this game, it's crazy.
philipfreire
11-23-2010, 07:02 PM
Damage progresses as you level higher into the game. I saw a video earlier today of a guy level 40 and his car would get damaged super easily. I don't really like that they decided to implement damage that way, but oh well.
Also, there is a mazda 3. There is a protege, mazda3, mazda6, mx5, rx7, rx8.
And yeah, there is SOOOO much to do in this game, it's crazy.
oh shit. maybe you have to unlock it! great way to keep us playing the game!!!
but yes the damage level is pretty stupid.
Thrizzl3
11-23-2010, 07:06 PM
I'm yet to start GT mode
Kevin@nextmod
11-23-2010, 07:09 PM
Damage progresses as you level higher into the game. I saw a video earlier today of a guy level 40 and his car would get damaged super easily. I don't really like that they decided to implement damage that way, but oh well.
Also, there is a mazda 3. There is a protege, mazda3, mazda6, mx5, rx7, rx8.
And yeah, there is SOOOO much to do in this game, it's crazy.
I'm sure if enough people bitch about it, they will change it through update just like the prologue. I remember if you hit a car you slow down because of penalty. Then later on they took that out.
SSmoked
11-23-2010, 07:17 PM
is the tuning dynamics like forza3? like chasis tunning, tire psi/caster/camber, spring/shock loads and what not?
damn cant wait to get mine tommorow.
stillmatic
11-23-2010, 07:18 PM
damnit i need to get a ps3 now!
Roconne
11-23-2010, 07:20 PM
This is the video I was talking about. Guy is lvl 40 and look at the damage his car takes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINuNcmXfLI&feature=player_embedded
I'm lvl 8 right now and I can barely get a scratch on my car.
Fobio
11-23-2010, 07:25 PM
it's been awhile since I walked into to a store and bought a game...like a regular person. I hope it'll be worth it. It's almost like they timed the release just right for our Canadian winters...
"It's cold as ass outside, but I just did 20 laps of Leguna Seca...no sweat..."
TheMaterial
11-23-2010, 07:31 PM
no there isn't...ill be getting the G27 soon..but i wish they had it on the controller :(
Is the clutch confirmed with the game? I was reading around and people were saying that the clutch wasn't fully supported with the game..but the forums were a little old.
I want my car to stall if you don't clutch properly!
Roconne
11-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Is the clutch confirmed with the game? I was reading around and people were saying that the clutch wasn't fully supported with the game..but the forums were a little old.
I want my car to stall if you don't clutch properly!If you have a wheel, yes the clutch is supported.
[edit]
I just did a kart race and damn, they are pretty fun.
TheMaterial
11-23-2010, 08:13 PM
If you have a wheel, yes the clutch is supported.
[edit]
I just did a kart race and damn, they are pretty fun.
awesome! will get my g27 wheel asap then...that's all I was waiting to be confirmed.
dragons4life
11-23-2010, 09:03 PM
We need a official lap time board for the Top Gear track. Lets beat the Stig in chevy!!.
Kevin@nextmod
11-24-2010, 10:06 AM
Just picked mine up and my friends. Comes with the gamestop bag lol...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1221.snc4/155360_10150094370096830_508821829_7699892_3836966 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1203.snc4/155502_10150094381736830_508821829_7699994_5447594 _n.jpg
This is what also comes with the Collectors Edition.
Gran Turismo® 5 Collector's Edition Downloadable Cars:
Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro Chrome Line Edition
BMW M3 Coupe Chrome Line Edition
Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640 Chrome Line Edition
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe Chrome Line Edition
Shelby Cobra 427 Chrome Line Edition
Just found out today.....
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/08/04/gran-turismo-5-%E2%80%93-something-special/
Signature Edition
Metal sculpted box finished in SLS AMG Obsidian Black
Exclusive GT branded SLS AMG 1:43 model car
GT leather wallet containing Signature Edition competition entry card
Branded USB key with Polyphony/Mercedes-Benz trailer
GT branded metal key fob
Signature Edition coffee table book featuring the beautiful cars and locations of Gran Turismo 5
200 page Apex drivers magazine with hints on driving technique, car tuning, future technologies and more
hit26k
11-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Just picked up my copy as well. cant wait!!!
jonjon72
11-24-2010, 11:16 AM
Hopefully get mine in the next couple of days......graphically I know it kills Forza, looking forward to seeing how the gameplay and physics compare.
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 11:20 AM
Oh you will jon you will ;)
horto
11-24-2010, 11:41 AM
haha YES!
We need a official lap time board for the Top Gear track. Lets beat the Stig in chevy!!.
jonjon72
11-24-2010, 11:54 AM
Oh you will jon you will ;)
HAHA.....thanks Phil! I have no doubt about it!
mazdaskit
11-24-2010, 12:26 PM
ooooooooooooo im gonna have to get it lol:chuckle maybe this weekend or next
Soyabean
11-24-2010, 12:37 PM
Just received mine from Canadapost. Too bad i got 2 projects to do. Game will remain sealed until tomorrow
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 01:01 PM
hey guys
anyone know how to transfer credit from gt5 p to gt5? or is it even possible?
HRMMMM, midterm in 2 days, haven't started studying or gone to class in 1 month + have to work both tonight and tomorrow. Do i pickup my preorder now?!?!
dragons4life
11-24-2010, 01:26 PM
Just picked mine up and my friends. Comes with the gamestop bag lol...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1221.snc4/155360_10150094370096830_508821829_7699892_3836966 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1203.snc4/155502_10150094381736830_508821829_7699994_5447594 _n.jpg
This is what also comes with the Collectors Edition.
Just found out today.....
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2010/08/04/gran-turismo-5-%E2%80%93-something-special/
Signature Edition
I got mine today also..Damn you pearly you got a Bag from Gamestop lol.....anyway did you get your pre-order bonus as well?
Yeah signature edition is a $100 more than the collectors.
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 01:36 PM
Show how many people actually have a copy now?
hit26k
11-24-2010, 01:36 PM
Show how many people actually have a copy now?
i do, i do, i do, i do! :)
dragons4life
11-24-2010, 01:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Gran-Turismo-5-Collectors-Edition-Playstation-3-NEW-/380275181052?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item588a2ac5fc
lol trying to make a profit already this guy.
rick@garage16.ca
11-24-2010, 02:00 PM
waiting on mine from futureshop along with the s.wheel
coriolis
11-24-2010, 03:51 PM
Negative reviews on the wheel :(
Just picked it up and got home and played some arcade races with the wheel.
My impression on the wheel is that it sucks.
It's ok for automatic car as you use the back shifters as gas and brake. OTOH, for manual cars it is practically unplayable. If you use the back two shifters as gas/brake then you would have to use the front button on the wheel to shift gears and vice versa. Does not even come with pedals that's the problem.
I knew I shouldnt open it, damn. Want to sell this damn wheel. Anyone wanna grab it from me?
Buy the game from BestBuy.ca with your Rewardzone membership ID for in-store pickup and get $10 worth of points added to your account. Then, take the unopened game you just bought from Best Buy and the wheel (back in it's box with all packaging, manual, etc) and return them to Futureshop.
No one is going to want this crap wheel. I don't know why anyone would have went for this deal. The Best Buy one is much better, since you get $10 worth of reward points. Good luck selling it for more than $10...
just got the wheel and the game in the mail
The wheel is very small and looks like trash. Going to return it
not worth 10 bucks
Installing it right now, prepping my G25 cockpit, I'll be there all day!
rick@garage16.ca
11-24-2010, 04:04 PM
who wants to buy my wheel? lol
it was free with the game so may of as well got it but guess I wont be using it
makes a good Xmas gift lol
WingZero_
11-24-2010, 04:44 PM
I've never used a wheel for any racing game, can't be worse than that. But I will probably just return it to the store in an attempt to get 50$ credit.
tweak_s
11-24-2010, 05:57 PM
Anyone having troubl ewith the G25? My G25 isn't detected.. clutch doesn't work, and in prologue you had to use the triangle to get it to work.. this is frustrating! :(
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 06:05 PM
the loading time is slooooowww
horto
11-24-2010, 06:20 PM
the menus in the game seem really slow... and yes I've installed it to the hdd
mazidane
11-24-2010, 06:45 PM
the loading time is slooooowww
did you install to the HDD?
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 06:48 PM
did you install to the HDD?
ya i did
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 06:50 PM
anyone beat class C license yet... I cant get pass 4th to get silver in the last challenge... its impossible..............................
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 06:55 PM
http://64.4.56.7/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=12f46a40-f805-11df-99d4-002264c248ce&attindex=0&cp=-1&attdepth=0&imgsrc=cid%3a11242010428.jpg&hm__login=cklwilliam&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.25.142.8&d=d217&mf=32&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2024%20Nov%202010%2023%3a54%3a50%20G MT&st=cklwilliam&hm__ha=01_412fa8d9b451029d60c0e228420e20b66b12e597 05b4c2cfe871e06a77b3838f&oneredir=1
looook guys!
mazidane
11-24-2010, 06:55 PM
ya i did
yikes, ok I'm not looking forward to the load times then, still installing at the moment.......
horto
11-24-2010, 07:00 PM
so no mazdaspeed3 in the game? this is bullshit! :(
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 07:01 PM
here is a little tip guys.
when u get a brand new car, prize or bought from dealership, go do an oil change right away, extra 10 - 20 hp right away just like that, only works on brand new car
Soyabean
11-24-2010, 07:06 PM
sweet. Thanks for the advice. Luckily i didnt open my game yet lol
thanu31
11-24-2010, 07:08 PM
Anyone having troubl ewith the G25? My G25 isn't detected.. clutch doesn't work, and in prologue you had to use the triangle to get it to work.. this is frustrating! :(
i think there's a setting in the game to activate the clutch, thats what my friend told me.
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 07:08 PM
how do u do an oil change?
thanu31
11-24-2010, 07:09 PM
so no mazdaspeed3 in the game? this is bullshit! :(
i heard they are going to release an update in a few months with more cars, so maybe then, hopefully
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 07:30 PM
Just received mine from Canadapost. Too bad i got 2 projects to do. Game will remain sealed until tomorrow
hahaha.. just work on ur project and play b spec... :headbang
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 07:33 PM
how do u do an oil change?
go to gt auto
Soyabean
11-24-2010, 07:34 PM
how do u do an oil change?
Bring your car to Jimmy
Soyabean
11-24-2010, 07:35 PM
hahaha.. just work on ur project and play b spec... :headbang
whats b spec? Funny thing is, i bought gt5 prologue and only played it like for 2 hours lol. Its just collecting dust right now
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 07:35 PM
go to gt auto
Bring your car to Jimmy
lol i found it right after i posted it..too lazy to edit :P
if only we could change the name of GT auto
Greg_di
11-24-2010, 07:44 PM
only issues I find with it now are the crazy long loading times (after hdd install) and the fact the online servers are down :-/
other then that, great game so far but only a couple hours in
Greg_di
11-24-2010, 07:45 PM
This is the video I was talking about. Guy is lvl 40 and look at the damage his car takes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINuNcmXfLI&feature=player_embedded
I'm lvl 8 right now and I can barely get a scratch on my car.
those damage models are only for the premium cars, the 800+ standard cars dont have that damage model :-/
WingZero_
11-24-2010, 07:57 PM
The oil change trick worked on GT3 and GT4 too. Must be royal purple :)
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 08:02 PM
lol... i won a concept car from the doing license, spent couple grand got up to 450 hp, guarantee win in b spec everytime so far !! now i can work on my project and let it farm easy $$$ at the same time without any effort haha
dadinho_nfg
11-24-2010, 10:44 PM
went out and bought COD today instead of GT5, kind of wish i hadnt, really wanted GT5 but alot of my friends were saying COD....
if anyone wants to trade or buy my COD for 60 bucks, let me know
Mitchell3
11-24-2010, 11:07 PM
I just quickly skimmed through the thread so i hope im not double posting, but if your looking for the mazda 3 in the game, first time i checked used cars i spotted a 03' black axela. So you'll find it there. It kind of odd how you can only get certain cars used unless I'm missing something? Seems weird to have 200 cars in the dealership and 800 you have to snipe out of a 20 used car list. My friend said he thought he saw a 2010 3 in the intro as well. but I'm thinking he probably just saw a 2010 mazda 6. All in all though I'm not sure if I'm liking it yet. maybe it will grow on me. cars in it are absolutely beautiful in it. I took a picture of my 05 Mitsu evo and i was amazed how real it looked when i was done.
Fobio
11-24-2010, 11:19 PM
driving Cote d'Azur/Monaco in the go kart is facking sick!
thanu31
11-24-2010, 11:20 PM
I just quickly skimmed through the thread so i hope im not double posting, but if your looking for the mazda 3 in the game, first time i checked used cars i spotted a 03' black axela. So you'll find it there. It kind of odd how you can only get certain cars used unless I'm missing something? Seems weird to have 200 cars in the dealership and 800 you have to snipe out of a 20 used car list. My friend said he thought he saw a 2010 3 in the intro as well. but I'm thinking he probably just saw a 2010 mazda 6. All in all though I'm not sure if I'm liking it yet. maybe it will grow on me. cars in it are absolutely beautiful in it. I took a picture of my 05 Mitsu evo and i was amazed how real it looked when i was done.
i think everyones used lot is different..
I didnt see a mazda3 in mine, and my friend didnt see a prelude in his but it was in mine.
btw, was the 3 a hatch or sedan?
cklwilliam
11-24-2010, 11:41 PM
I just quickly skimmed through the thread so i hope im not double posting, but if your looking for the mazda 3 in the game, first time i checked used cars i spotted a 03' black axela. So you'll find it there. It kind of odd how you can only get certain cars used unless I'm missing something? Seems weird to have 200 cars in the dealership and 800 you have to snipe out of a 20 used car list. My friend said he thought he saw a 2010 3 in the intro as well. but I'm thinking he probably just saw a 2010 mazda 6. All in all though I'm not sure if I'm liking it yet. maybe it will grow on me. cars in it are absolutely beautiful in it. I took a picture of my 05 Mitsu evo and i was amazed how real it looked when i was done.
yah.. everyone used car lists are different, it changes everytime u finish a race. so if u see a car that u want u better buy it.. chances of it coming back again ... lol pretty slim
and look.. 60k for a speed6, pretty steep
http://64.4.56.7/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=11f5ac8f-f84e-11df-8c41-00237de33394&attindex=0&cp=-1&attdepth=0&imgsrc=cid%3a11242010429.jpg&hm__login=cklwilliam&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.25.142.8&d=d217&mf=32&hm__ts=Thu%2c%2025%20Nov%202010%2004%3a40%3a28%20G MT&st=cklwilliam&hm__ha=01_7baccfdc8cbd488f0e36f365ee292e89008d07b6 0be0fca922a32e1f527cbcff&oneredir=1
Thrizzl3
11-24-2010, 11:43 PM
yah.. everyone used car lists are different, it changes everytime u finish a race. so if u see a car that u want u better buy it.. chances of it coming back again ... lol pretty slim
and look.. 60k for a speed6, pretty steep
http://64.4.56.7/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=11f5ac8f-f84e-11df-8c41-00237de33394&attindex=0&cp=-1&attdepth=0&imgsrc=cid%3a11242010429.jpg&hm__login=cklwilliam&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.25.142.8&d=d217&mf=32&hm__ts=Thu%2c%2025%20Nov%202010%2004%3a40%3a28%20G MT&st=cklwilliam&hm__ha=01_7baccfdc8cbd488f0e36f365ee292e89008d07b6 0be0fca922a32e1f527cbcff&oneredir=1
thats way overpriced..
rktsci
11-25-2010, 08:42 AM
hey all...GT newbie here as the PS3 is my first Sony console.
As a beginner what are the typical starting points? I've started going through the license phase, I've bought my first car, was awarded a kart and had two cars in my garage courtesy of my pre-order from Gamestop (a McLaren F1 and a Joey Logano NASCAR).
Am I going in the right direction??
Also...I'm using the controller to play and use the right analog stick for my throttle & brake but I keep turning on my windshield wipers by accidentally pressing R3...can this be turned off?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBt77mGnyfI&feature=player_embedded#!
horto
11-25-2010, 11:09 AM
driving Cote d'Azur/Monaco in the go kart is facking sick!
The go karts are crazy! I've never done so many donuts in a single lap...
i think everyones used lot is different..
I didnt see a mazda3 in mine, and my friend didnt see a prelude in his but it was in mine.
The very first car I bought in the game was an '83 Toyota AE86, found in the used car lot. Sweet. Time to deliver some pizzas while drifting.
hey all...GT newbie here as the PS3 is my first Sony console.
As a beginner what are the typical starting points? I've started going through the license phase, I've bought my first car, was awarded a kart and had two cars in my garage courtesy of my pre-order from Gamestop (a McLaren F1 and a Joey Logano NASCAR).
Am I going in the right direction??
Also...I'm using the controller to play and use the right analog stick for my throttle & brake but I keep turning on my windshield wipers by accidentally pressing R3...can this be turned off?
You can edit the controller layout from the main options screen. I don't have a wheel either, so I setup the controller to reflect the default button layout in Forza 3. Which means, I use the trigger (R2/L2) for gas and brake, R1/L2 for up/down shift, mapped the right stick to look left/right, etc. You can map the wipers to the d-pad. (and lights too).
So, one thing that's been nagging me -- I thought GT5 was supposed to have damage physics? This is one area in particular where Forza 3 wins in my books. When I "accidentally" ram into a car in front of me, in GT5 all I get is a wonky clunk and instant deceleration. In Forza 3, bumper parts go flying and both cars tend to spin out of control -- far more realistically.
stillmatic
11-25-2010, 12:12 PM
^^i've read that you have to unlock damage in the game. You get it after reaching a certain level.
horto
11-25-2010, 02:08 PM
re: load times, fyi: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/25/gran-turismo-5-hampered-by-constant-internet-access-patch-comin/
Dave_The_BMXER
11-25-2010, 04:17 PM
^^i've read that you have to unlock damage in the game. You get it after reaching a certain level.
Only certain cars have damage, premium ones. It looks like garbage: http://kotaku.com/5630851/lets-look-at-damaged-gran-turismo-5-cars/gallery/
WingZero_
11-25-2010, 04:22 PM
The very first car I bought in the game was an '83 Toyota AE86, found in the used car lot. Sweet. Time to deliver some pizzas while drifting.
Sweet, but he delivered tofu and drifted.
Thrizzl3
11-25-2010, 06:19 PM
Only certain cars have damage, premium ones. It looks like garbage: http://kotaku.com/5630851/lets-look-at-damaged-gran-turismo-5-cars/gallery/
that looks absolutely ugly..looks like it was made in MS paint.
on the other hand..im only at lvl 3
Kevin@nextmod
11-25-2010, 06:33 PM
Just went through this video. Comparison between the 5 steering wheels for the consoles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMn5FScd66k
The G27 is ranked with the top 3 from every test.
hit26k
11-25-2010, 06:45 PM
so apparently its going to take 20 mins to install on the hdd. anyone have to wait this long?
horto
11-25-2010, 06:56 PM
more like an hour...
so apparently its going to take 20 mins to install on the hdd. anyone have to wait this long?
hit26k
11-25-2010, 07:16 PM
more like an hour...
damn...i got about 2 mins left now. i guess i'll stop complaining. lol
hit26k
11-25-2010, 08:47 PM
so far im nearing lvl 4, with about $38,000 in winnings. im driving a 1990 Infiniti G20 that i got for 13 grand :headbang
whats everyone eles stats like? ten times easier to level up in GT than CoD. lol
thanu31
11-25-2010, 10:16 PM
lol played it for 30min, lvl 2, 98 Ek typeR - $16 500
Thrizzl3
11-25-2010, 10:22 PM
did anyone figure out the online yet?
Mitchell3
11-25-2010, 11:05 PM
i think everyones used lot is different..
I didnt see a mazda3 in mine, and my friend didnt see a prelude in his but it was in mine.
btw, was the 3 a hatch or sedan?
Hatch :thumbsup haha
mazda_gurl
11-25-2010, 11:06 PM
I just quickly skimmed through the thread so i hope im not double posting, but if your looking for the mazda 3 in the game, first time i checked used cars i spotted a 03' black axela.
Same - and I bought it LOL
Level 3 sporting an 03 Axela 23S - Black Mica.
Pimp!
lol played it for 30min, lvl 2, 98 Ek typeR - $16 500
my first car too! i was kinda sad when they didnt let me import any cars from gt prologue and restricted cars from gt psp to only arcade mode; have to start from scratch.
So far ive been working on my licences finished up to IC-10. Time to start racing (can we go online? i want to have a mazda3 race lol)
thanu31
11-26-2010, 12:20 AM
no sedan :( ?
cklwilliam
11-26-2010, 12:21 AM
no sedan :( ?
there is the new one
thanu31
11-26-2010, 12:24 AM
:( dam i wanted to make a replica of my carrrrrrrrrrrrr
SSmoked
11-26-2010, 01:08 PM
my first car was the Nissan Silva(s15) for 17k. n/a inline 4. its meh. im rocken the rx7 FD right now at level 7.5.
honestly im a little dissapointed in this game. the physis of the car are real in some ways but soo fake in others(trying to correct a over steer = u in the wall). the tuning sucks. no motor swaps, when i add a intake to a car with turbos i expect to hear some PSSh, interior view is limited to dealer only cars, and the inerior veiw fails the cams to high, the a.i runs on rails and if its a straigh they will plow right through u... i can keep going too.
5 years to make this game flawless and it is no better than forza3, imo. they cut alot of corners in this game.
biggest fail of the game is the 10k exhaust. lol.
horto
11-26-2010, 03:12 PM
...and it is no better than forza3, imo.
IMHO Forza 3 is actually a better game. And more fun overall. But I'm only Lvl 7-8 whereas I've got countless hours invested in Forza. Totally agree with your points on physics and tuning. No ability to upgrade brakes? wtf.
cklwilliam
11-26-2010, 03:48 PM
My lv 5 driver keeps on losing control in my RX 7 in FR match in B spec..
Anyone got any suggestions how to tune this car in terms of handling? Already got the height adjustable suspension and hard sports tires, should I invest in the softer tires?
xxSlidewaysxx
11-26-2010, 04:11 PM
thats way overpriced..
No that's Orangeville pricing.............:chuckle
dragons4life
11-26-2010, 07:35 PM
Most of you probably don't care...but all of you should of done the penniless trophy, before you started. However you can still do it with your high income, just a pain in the ass to get it to 0 credits lol.
Thrizzl3
11-26-2010, 10:42 PM
my first car was the Nissan Silva(s15) for 17k. n/a inline 4. its meh. im rocken the rx7 FD right now at level 7.5.
honestly im a little dissapointed in this game. the physis of the car are real in some ways but soo fake in others(trying to correct a over steer = u in the wall). the tuning sucks. no motor swaps, when i add a intake to a car with turbos i expect to hear some PSSh, interior view is limited to dealer only cars, and the inerior veiw fails the cams to high, the a.i runs on rails and if its a straigh they will plow right through u... i can keep going too.
5 years to make this game flawless and it is no better than forza3, imo. they cut alot of corners in this game.
biggest fail of the game is the 10k exhaust. lol.
i also find that the showcase of the car is too basic..in forza 3 the game would go to a track and show different angles of the car. The photo travel option is complete garbage..no real time environment..just preset settings and you can't even have the car moving it has to be at a standstill...wtf? third of all..$2k to paint a car? forza you just painted it for free..maaaannnn
Mitchell3
11-27-2010, 01:22 AM
no sedan :( ?
1000+ cars, I wouldn't be surprised if a sedan is hidden in there. They have first and second gen 6's in the game as well.
Mitchell3
11-27-2010, 01:32 AM
For the full car list I found: http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-official-car-list/
(http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-official-car-list/)
Same - and I bought it LOL
Level 3 sporting an 03 Axela 23S - Black Mica.
Pimp!
haha I only used mine for first 3 races or so. They should have made the 3 a premium car in the game, I can't even change out the wheels :(.
Currently driving a red 06' corvette.
G-daddy
11-27-2010, 11:49 AM
I've checked out the car list, and the don't even have the latest Audit RS4. Also, I can understand if they don't have the newest GTi just released, but they don't even have the gen before that! Seriously? No F50 or F360 either. The 2010 Mustang is supposed to be amazing, I would have loved to try it.
I mean, I love my JDM cars, and will probably end up filling most of my garage with them anyway, but I will wait for GT6 (since I was on the fence about getting a PS3 anyway).
horto
11-27-2010, 01:54 PM
The Shelby Cobra 427 + deep forest raceway = AWESOME
I need a wheel :(
horto
11-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Also, got a Playstation Eye camera? The game supports head tracking. (Premium cars, arcade only):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dLYe8Vaxio
SSmoked
11-27-2010, 04:26 PM
anybody notice how good the AI is at doing the PIT manuver? lol if your car is slower than theirs on the straight they WILL spin you out if you try to block em.
another thing that is bad. needing the car for certian races and there not available. i cant do the pre 79 jap races or pre 79 euro races cause i cant find any of these cars in the used dealer or dealer. soo while i cant i do the licences.
this game is too limited to be creative.
cklwilliam
11-27-2010, 05:41 PM
anybody notice how good the AI is at doing the PIT manuver? lol if your car is slower than theirs on the straight they WILL spin you out if you try to block em.
another thing that is bad. needing the car for certian races and there not available. i cant do the pre 79 jap races or pre 79 euro races cause i cant find any of these cars in the used dealer or dealer. soo while i cant i do the licences.
this game is too limited to be creative.
If u see a G4, buy itttttt, it's definitely worth the 40k
tuned it to 198 hp / 213 ft-lb.. only weight 454 kg, its like a go kart, u can easily beat all the classic and euro race with that little thing.
Japanese I got a Isuzu Bellett GT - R 69, that thing is fast and handle very nicely
the mazda3 (axela) showed up today and i bought it! Black mica with 30000K on the odo, did an oil change and thats about it. Too bad we cant change rims :(
Also the most fun race to date imo has been the amg driving school's beginner challenges with 300 SL. Especially the one where you have to pass all the other mercedes at nurburgring. You guys should try it out, its easy, fast and fun.
dragons4life
11-28-2010, 08:24 PM
Stupid lotus elise is on ice when trying to do Top gear challenge 2...and damn AI hits you and you get DQ...sick of this shit.
SSmoked
11-28-2010, 09:19 PM
^^ haha yea lmao i was gona post that. if you want to see how shitty this games physics are do that challange. i also will give a hand shake to anyone who can come 1st in the vw bus top gear challange.
Roconne
11-28-2010, 09:24 PM
^^ haha yea lmao i was gona post that. if you want to see how shitty this games physics are do that challange. i also will give a hand shake to anyone who can come 1st in the vw bus top gear challange.I got first in both those challenges. The Lotus one wasn't too bad (once you figure out how to handle the car), but the VW Bus took awhile. The 3rd Top Gear challenge is a joke though. Easy gold. It's almost as if they put them in the wrong order.
dragons4life
11-28-2010, 09:43 PM
^^ haha yea lmao i was gona post that. if you want to see how shitty this games physics are do that challange. i also will give a hand shake to anyone who can come 1st in the vw bus top gear challange.
I got first on the VW bus...however the second challenge with the lotus is due to the fact it has Comfort Hard tires on, which makes it harder to control. My best with the lotus was third, and stupid AI want you to DQ so badly.
DaveIrwin24
11-29-2010, 05:08 PM
Stupid question, I've had the game for a week now, all the info on the screen position, lap times.. Etc how do I remove that when I'm driving ? It's annoying
Roconne
11-29-2010, 05:47 PM
Stupid question, I've had the game for a week now, all the info on the screen position, lap times.. Etc how do I remove that when I'm driving ? It's annoyingYou can't. You're stuck with it. There have been tons of complaints about that so I can see them releasing a patch that gives us the option to turn the HUD off.
DaveIrwin24
11-29-2010, 06:40 PM
Ok, hopefully soon. I was at Walmart yesterday and there was a rep from playstation demoing the game on a tv in the electronic dept, and he had everything off the screen while he was playing, looked so much cleaner and made it look like your actually in the car!
TokyoKiller
11-29-2010, 06:47 PM
Ok, hopefully soon. I was at Walmart yesterday and there was a rep from playstation demoing the game on a tv in the electronic dept, and he had everything off the screen while he was playing, looked so much cleaner and made it look like your actually in the car!
Probably a demonstration version of the game, not a retail version.
I don't own a Playstation 3, but I was expecting this game to blow Forza out of the water. But most reviews have put this game under Forza when it comes to overall appeal.
Anyone here have both games with that same view? I was debating on getting a Playstation 3 just because of this game, since nothing else is interesting to me on the Playstation platform these days.
Roconne
11-29-2010, 08:05 PM
Ok, hopefully soon. I was at Walmart yesterday and there was a rep from playstation demoing the game on a tv in the electronic dept, and he had everything off the screen while he was playing, looked so much cleaner and made it look like your actually in the car!What you saw was a race replay. In that, you can go into the cockpit view and turn off all on-screen displays. I agree though, it looks super clean and I'd love to be able to do that in a regular race.
Thrizzl3
11-29-2010, 09:23 PM
What's expected in GT6..http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=277810
dragons4life
11-29-2010, 09:57 PM
What's expected in GT6..http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=277810
Its more a wish list for what should be in Gt6 then whats expected..Kaz doesn't even know if GT6 would be on PS3 lol.
horto
11-29-2010, 10:09 PM
My two cents:
I have both. I wouldn't go out and dump $300-$350 on a PS3 just for GT5. UNLESS you need a bluray player. If you see the earlier posts, you know that ssmoked and I agree with the critics and rank Forza 3 as a slightly better game overall. Both games have their pros and cons. GT5 does some things better than Forza 3, and vice versa. Overall, in terms of sheer fun factor... I've got to give it to Forza 3. But in terms of realism, GT5 is creeping up there.
That being said, I haven't turned my 360 on once since I got GT5. In fact, I haven't played anything else. So there's something to be said for its addictiveness. Especially once you start getting into the fast cars, like the Scuderia, and get further into the challenges. Some of which will make you throw the controller across the room (e.g. Top Gear elise on buttery tires).
See if you can convince a friend to let you play GT5 for a couple hours straight...
But in short, no, this games isn't worth $350 over Forza 3.
Probably a demonstration version of the game, not a retail version.
I don't own a Playstation 3, but I was expecting this game to blow Forza out of the water. But most reviews have put this game under Forza when it comes to overall appeal.
Anyone here have both games with that same view? I was debating on getting a Playstation 3 just because of this game, since nothing else is interesting to me on the Playstation platform these days.
EDIT:
PS - and yeah, I agree, there's not much else interesting in terms of games for PS3. Except for maybe Uncharted. I dunno, I feel there's something lacking about PS3 games as compared to 360 but I just can't seem to put it into words. They feel more empty I think. (Not talking GT5 here).
hit26k
11-29-2010, 10:48 PM
taken from the article...
...do we really need 13 different Honda Civics?
lmao. so true!
Mitchell3
11-29-2010, 11:06 PM
Stupid lotus elise is on ice when trying to do Top gear challenge 2...and damn AI hits you and you get DQ...sick of this shit.
Glad im not the only one who found it hard. I almost got bronze on it once, then i slid into the grass on the second last turn. Turned the game off right there.
SSmoked
11-30-2010, 10:37 AM
guys if you havnt yet do b-spec and a-spec at the same time. the races are the exact same. this way you keep the car u used for both.
b-spec is intense and sad at the same time. you give your driver such a balanced car and he still ends up having a close race. lol. rwd + b-spec = tokyo drift lol
rktsci
11-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Can someone tell me if there is a global setting to turn off 'ghost cars' in the game?
I can't stand them and they always seem to screw me up when I'm trying to find a fraction of a second on a license test and my vision gets obscured!
Roconne
11-30-2010, 12:34 PM
Don't think there is a global setting, but press Up on the D-Pad at the start of the race and it will turn it off.
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 12:41 PM
guys if you havnt yet do b-spec and a-spec at the same time. the races are the exact same. this way you keep the car u used for both.
b-spec is intense and sad at the same time. you give your driver such a balanced car and he still ends up having a close race. lol. rwd + b-spec = tokyo drift lol
My B-Spec AI driver is fine..you got to pick the right one in the beginning and find a balance starter. I used a Civic Type-R (EK), and runs circles in the beginner races lol.
Roconne
11-30-2010, 01:01 PM
Each b-spec driver also has a unique driving style that makes him better or worse with a particular drivetrain. My first driver can not handle a RWD vehicle at all, he will just spin out in every turn. Throw him in a AWD though, and he just dominates. My second driver on the other hand, really slow with AWD for some reason but he loves RWD. Just drifts around every corner like it's nothing.
You just have to try out different cars and find one that fits your driver. Also tuning & tire choice plays a big role in how they do.
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 01:19 PM
Each b-spec driver also has a unique driving style that makes him better or worse with a particular drivetrain. My first driver can not handle a RWD vehicle at all, he will just spin out in every turn. Throw him in a AWD though, and he just dominates. My second driver on the other hand, really slow with AWD for some reason but he loves RWD. Just drifts around every corner like it's nothing.
You just have to try out different cars and find one that fits your driver. Also tuning & tire choice plays a big role in how they do.
not to mention finding a driver with a cool attitude instead of a hot one lol....
SSmoked
11-30-2010, 01:37 PM
my b-spec guy is level 6 or 7. in FWD he kills. RWD i have to keep him tamed or else he will lose control. my '10 ss camaro is a balanced as they come, getting it sideways is hard but easy to get out of. my '69 z28 on the other hand is a monster to tame but deadly when tamed. AWD he my guy drivers soo slow. i have to keep upping the pase to stay infront.
my second driver is usless lol. he couldnt hit water if he feel out of a boat.
but this game is getting better and better as i progress.
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 01:44 PM
my b-spec guy is level 6 or 7. in FWD he kills. RWD i have to keep him tamed or else he will lose control. my '10 ss camaro is a balanced as they come, getting it sideways is hard but easy to get out of. my '69 z28 on the other hand is a monster to tame but deadly when tamed. AWD he my guy drivers soo slow. i have to keep upping the pase to stay infront.
my second driver is usless lol. i couldnt hit water if he feel out of a boat.
but this game is getting better and better as i progress.
Thats the whole point, it gets better as you level and progress..so many retards keep bashing this game in reviews when they only played for a week.
back to what you were saying....my first driver loves my Chrome line M3 lol....my second driver is a lost cause....
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Kazunori Yamauchi has been fielding questions from fans on Twitter over the past few hours. The tweets (http://twitter.com/#%21/Kaz_Yamauchi) are in Japanese, but with a little help from Google and medhi_san (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24659716&postcount=16120), we can get a pretty good idea of what he’s talking about. Here’s the highlights:
Flexible camera angles and “dynamic and wide-area lighting needs” are to blame for the sometimes blocky shadows. Yamauchi admits they are a problem and wants to improve them.
Yamauchi appears to consider the possibility of removing the in-game HUD (heads-up-display features) at some point in the future.
To unlock the Red Bull X1 (http://www.gtplanet.net/tag/red-bull-x1/), you’ll need to complete the “Sebastian Vettel Challenge”, which appears at Level 30.
Online “lounge” functionality and other features will be added “one by one”.
Polyphony Digital continues to work on fully supporting the Logitech G25 and G27, though Yamauchi admits he would like a “new steering device soon”…
Mechanical damage options will be implemented in a new update for GT5 coming “early December”.
As you may know, many players noticed that GT5’s face-tracking functionality only worked in Arcade mode. According to Yamauchi, it’s not available in GT mode due to memory issues with the PS3.
In-game rewards (such as the monetary prize in GT5 Prologue) for your performance in online events is something Polyphony Digital is considering, and may be implemented in a future update.
Gran Turismo 5’s official, 2-disc sound-track will be released soon.
Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.
The YouTube replay upload feature had to be pulled from the final version of the game because it took a very long time to render and it consumed too much memory. Yamauchi is still considering it, however.
As always, it is refreshing and exciting to see Yamauchi’s interactions with fans via Twitter. Let’s hope the medium continues to be a valuable open line into Polyphony Digital as GT5 to evolves!
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The ones in bold are very interesting features that would make this game even better.
laksman91
11-30-2010, 05:13 PM
Whats this head tracking feature? I havent plugged in my PS Eye yet, maybe this will motivate me to do so.
Impressive
11-30-2010, 05:35 PM
the mazda3 (axela) showed up today and i bought it! Black mica with 30000K on the odo, did an oil change and thats about it. Too bad we cant change rims :(
Also the most fun race to date imo has been the amg driving school's beginner challenges with 300 SL. Especially the one where you have to pass all the other mercedes at nurburgring. You guys should try it out, its easy, fast and fun.
Wait, so why can't you change rims? Can you slam cars? If not please tell me there's an update for this coming out really sooon.
Thrizzl3
11-30-2010, 06:47 PM
just played online with zzz3. some american people were in our room driving like knuckle heads :S cutting corners and spinning us out..wtf? it was funny when they would travel in the opposite direction trying to hit us but failed miserably..
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 07:02 PM
just played online with zzz3. some american people were in our room driving like knuckle heads :S cutting corners and spinning us out..wtf? it was funny when they would travel in the opposite direction trying to hit us but failed miserably..
that's why i don't bother going online much..you get morons like the ones you encountered that ruin races.
Roconne
11-30-2010, 08:02 PM
Wait, so why can't you change rims? Can you slam cars? If not please tell me there's an update for this coming out really sooon.You can't change rims on the 'standard' cars. Premiums, you can. And yes, you can lower cars if you purchase the upgraded suspension.
Someone asked about headtracking? This is a good video showing off how it works in GT5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edXRmj4mpvI
It however is only limited to Arcade mode. Apparently memory issues were becoming a problem when they tried to get it working on GTLife/Online modes. In other words, the PS3 couldn't handle it. It seems like there are a lot of things PD wants to do but they are limited by the current specs on the PS3. Once the PS4 comes out though, I imagine some crazy things will happen in the GT franchise.
[edit]
that's why i don't bother going online much..you get morons like the ones you encountered that ruin races.
I'm a member on another site and those are the only people I play online with. I refuse to go into public lobbies for exactly that reason, morons who don't actually want to race properly. This game has an amazing online mode when you are with people who actually want to race legit.
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 08:06 PM
You can't change rims on the 'standard' cars. Premiums, you can. And yes, you can lower cars if you purchase the upgraded suspension.
Someone asked about headtracking? This is a good video showing off how it works in GT5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edXRmj4mpvI
It however is only limited to Arcade mode. Apparently memory issues were becoming a problem when they tried to get it working on GTLife/Online modes. In other words, the PS3 couldn't handle it. It seems like there are a lot of things PD wants to do but they are limited by the current specs on the PS3. Once the PS4 comes out though, I imagine some crazy things will happen in the GT franchise.
Hence the tweets from kaz are on my above post..and he answered question regarding future updates to the game.
SSmoked
11-30-2010, 08:11 PM
just a heads up to those doing the b-spec truck race. prepare to spend some coin on that truck for the dayton race. your driver follows the tack lines closley and breaks when he doesnt have to resulting in losing 30mph while the rest is maintaining a constant speed, eventully he goes from 1 to 12 within 2 laps lol. i have a 630hp ford svt lightning as the final result lol.
just finished a-spec and b-spec beginners. only the euro race left for amature in both.
dragons4life
11-30-2010, 08:16 PM
just a heads up to those doing the b-spec truck race. prepare to spend some coin on that truck for the dayton race. your driver follows the tack lines closley and breaks when he doesnt have to resulting in losing 30mph while the rest is maintaining a constant speed, eventully he goes from 1 to 12 within 2 laps lol. i have a 630hp ford svt lightning as the final result lol.
just finished a-spec and b-spec beginners. only the euro race left for amature in both.
Man i wish i had that much time on my hands to play everyday...i have school and alot of work to play on weekdays sigh....but thanks for the heads up.
horto
11-30-2010, 10:46 PM
so, the GT5 livery GT-R die cast car that I got as part of my collector's edition, how do I unlock it in-game?
PS - agree. the game gets better the more you play it.
...except for the AI, and the "bonk" sound when you bounce off another car. ugh.
just played online with zzz3. some american people were in our room driving like knuckle heads :S cutting corners and spinning us out..wtf? it was funny when they would travel in the opposite direction trying to hit us but failed miserably..
yeah i was trying to have fun with easier cars like the civic/mazda3 because the supercars are too hard to drive but those retards made it worse cutting through the grass, slamming into everyone on purpose, going the wrong way.
We should try to have a mazda3 race if more people from tm3 get on, it would be sick (and much easier).
that's why i don't bother going online much..you get morons like the ones you encountered that ruin races.
yeah i wish there was some sort of kick feature or something :flaming
Zoom Zoom Boy
12-01-2010, 03:15 AM
just played online with zzz3. some american people were in our room driving like knuckle heads :S cutting corners and spinning us out..wtf? it was funny when they would travel in the opposite direction trying to hit us but failed miserably..
I'm pretty sure they call that NASCAR south of the border Phil... :) Wait, I think I see some debris on the track with 3 laps to go, better get that safety car out there...
WingZero_
12-01-2010, 02:09 PM
All I can say is the Veyron is fun, very fun.
horto
12-01-2010, 02:22 PM
have about $300k to spend... recommendations on fun, fast vehicles guys?
- 09/10 GT-R
- Ferarri Italia
- Veyron
??
Roconne
12-01-2010, 02:31 PM
have about $300k to spend... recommendations on fun, fast vehicles guys?
- 09/10 GT-R
- Ferarri Italia
- Veyron
??Go with the Ferrari 458 Italia. I believe it runs around 200k. Put a few upgrades into it and you will dominate many, many races. That's my most used car for the a-spec racing. You can bring it into a lot of series and just crush the other cars (once it's all modded out).
WingZero_
12-01-2010, 02:59 PM
Definitely don't buy the veyron, you'll win it eventually.
Impressive
12-01-2010, 03:00 PM
You can't change rims on the 'standard' cars. Premiums, you can. And yes, you can lower cars if you purchase the upgraded suspension.
Someone asked about headtracking? This is a good video showing off how it works in GT5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edXRmj4mpvI
It however is only limited to Arcade mode. Apparently memory issues were becoming a problem when they tried to get it working on GTLife/Online modes. In other words, the PS3 couldn't handle it. It seems like there are a lot of things PD wants to do but they are limited by the current specs on the PS3. Once the PS4 comes out though, I imagine some crazy things will happen in the GT franchise.
[edit]
I'm a member on another site and those are the only people I play online with. I refuse to go into public lobbies for exactly that reason, morons who don't actually want to race properly. This game has an amazing online mode when you are with people who actually want to race legit.
They better be fixing that soon.
cklwilliam
12-01-2010, 04:37 PM
have about $300k to spend... recommendations on fun, fast vehicles guys?
- 09/10 GT-R
- Ferarri Italia
- Veyron
??
buy that ferrari that Roconne recommended in this thread
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?49092-GT5-Picture-thread../page2
first thing after u get it is get a set of racing soft tires, then just upgrade it from there, you will win every single race pretty much.
horto
12-01-2010, 07:59 PM
ok, one ferrari 458 italia with mods coming up! the 430 scuderia is one of my favourite cars in the game, hope the 458 brings me as much joy
cklwilliam
12-01-2010, 11:10 PM
anyone down for a race?!?! add me cklwilliam
Thrizzl3
12-01-2010, 11:21 PM
anyone down for a race?!?! add me cklwilliam
were racin right now add philly999
cklwilliam
12-02-2010, 12:44 AM
Go with the Ferrari 458 Italia. I believe it runs around 200k. Put a few upgrades into it and you will dominate many, many races. That's my most used car for the a-spec racing. You can bring it into a lot of series and just crush the other cars (once it's all modded out).
hey... what happens if u dont repair the car?
just notice my ferrari got 141k body damage + 81 k engine damage...
should i bother fixing it?
DruidB
12-02-2010, 12:48 AM
OK.. I own Forza 3 and GT5.. I have a Fanatec Wheel i use for both.
After getting to lvl 32 I have a decently good feel for GT5 and I must say im extremly unimpressed.
Graphics: There are moments in GT5 that simply look amazing, (Rain, Night etc) however for every amazing moment there are 5 horrid ones.
The fact that 80% of the cars look like terrible PS2 graphics and have no interior views is not what i had in mind after waiting 6 years.
The new tracks look amazing, however old tracks like Laguna Seca look like PS2 crap yet again.
The shadows are pixelated old school crap PS2 style.
The actual in game racing graphics on the premium cars/tracks are slightly nicer that Forza 3. I was expecting more.
Physics:
The one thing this game got right (except for skid recovery).
AI: They drive on a fixed line like you dont exist. Even at lvl 32 so those of you saying it gets better must be kidding. Just like the first Gran Turismo. Forza does it better.
Customization: Well.. the fact im stuck with stock rims on 800 cars says it all. No motor swaps, no custom paint liveries. GT5<Forza 3
Photo mode: GT5 wins this IMO. Premium cars only though.. but they look great. Too bad i could care less and want the in game racing visuals to look this good for all cars.
Controls: I use the same wheel for both games and find the force feedback better on Forza, not to mention the clutch simulation is also much more realistic. But they both do a good job.
Cars: 1000+ cars in GT5... Too bad most of them are garbage no one wants to drive... I mean common.. a Premium Toyota Prius but a standard Veyron? WTF. The usual Gran Turismo 50 skylines, 20 civics etc. No Porsches.. only a handfull of RUF's, Missing the F50 and 360 etc. 1000 cars be dammned.. the 430 in forza are better and all have interiors.
Sound: This is hit and miss.. some cars sound fantastic... others are terrible.. Im sorry but V8 muscle cars that sound like Honda's is not acceptable in 2010.
Overall: I guess its safe to say i saw this comming.. I swore up and down i wouldnt buy it until it was $20 in the bargain bin and would wait but i saw it in Best Buy on release day and grabbed it.
25% of this game looks, Sounds, and plays like a 10/10... its too bad the other 75% is a PS2 game i played 8 years ago called GT4.
They should have delayed the launch another year or at least given us less features and spent more time on premium content. Id gladly trade in 800 standard cars for 200 more premiums.
I can only hope some of this is addressed in patchs..
WTF has Polyphony been doing for 6 years.
Roconne
12-02-2010, 03:57 AM
hey... what happens if u dont repair the car?
just notice my ferrari got 141k body damage + 81 k engine damage...
should i bother fixing it?I usually don't worry about the body damage, but the engine repair will actually get you back missing HP. One race I noticed that my 458 felt slower than usual, so I backed out and went to check the stats. I noticed the HP seemed a bit lower than it normally did so I went and spent probably 120k in engine repairs and gained roughly 60hp back.
I'm not sure how frequently you need to do this, but just keep an eye on your performance and if you notice the car feeling a bit more sluggish than normal, you might need a rebuild.
joghia
12-02-2010, 09:07 AM
OK.. I own Forza 3 and GT5.. I have a Fanatec Wheel i use for both.
After getting to lvl 32 I have a decently good feel for GT5 and I must say im extremly unimpressed.
Graphics: There are moments in GT5 that simply look amazing, (Rain, Night etc) however for every amazing moment there are 5 horrid ones.
The fact that 80% of the cars look like terrible PS2 graphics and have no interior views is not what i had in mind after waiting 6 years.
The new tracks look amazing, however old tracks like Laguna Seca look like PS2 crap yet again.
The shadows are pixelated old school crap PS2 style.
The actual in game racing graphics on the premium cars/tracks are slightly nicer that Forza 3. I was expecting more.
Physics:
The one thing this game got right (except for skid recovery).
AI: They drive on a fixed line like you dont exist. Even at lvl 32 so those of you saying it gets better must be kidding. Just like the first Gran Turismo. Forza does it better.
Customization: Well.. the fact im stuck with stock rims on 800 cars says it all. No motor swaps, no custom paint liveries. GT5<Forza 3
Photo mode: GT5 wins this IMO. Premium cars only though.. but they look great. Too bad i could care less and want the in game racing visuals to look this good for all cars.
Controls: I use the same wheel for both games and find the force feedback better on Forza, not to mention the clutch simulation is also much more realistic. But they both do a good job.
Cars: 1000+ cars in GT5... Too bad most of them are garbage no one wants to drive... I mean common.. a Premium Toyota Prius but a standard Veyron? WTF. The usual Gran Turismo 50 skylines, 20 civics etc. No Porsches.. only a handfull of RUF's, Missing the F50 and 360 etc. 1000 cars be dammned.. the 430 in forza are better and all have interiors.
Sound: This is hit and miss.. some cars sound fantastic... others are terrible.. Im sorry but V8 muscle cars that sound like Honda's is not acceptable in 2010.
Overall: I guess its safe to say i saw this comming.. I swore up and down i wouldnt buy it until it was $20 in the bargain bin and would wait but i saw it in Best Buy on release day and grabbed it.
25% of this game looks, Sounds, and plays like a 10/10... its too bad the other 75% is a PS2 game i played 8 years ago called GT4.
They should have delayed the launch another year or at least given us less features and spent more time on premium content. Id gladly trade in 800 standard cars for 200 more premiums.
I can only hope some of this is addressed in patchs..
WTF has Polyphony been doing for 6 years.
All hail DruidB. FORZA 3 FTMFW. I told you people that GT5 is weak. They had a lifetime to design something just as good or better than Forza 3 and they couldn't deliver.
rick@garage16.ca
12-02-2010, 09:21 AM
I wanna sell my GT5 for ps3
played 1 hour on it
stillmatic
12-02-2010, 09:29 AM
I was so excited to play this game and even get a PS3 just for this game. But after reading many reviews that fall in line with what DruidB is saying, I think I am going to wait for the next gen GT. For now, I'm going to stick with my 360 and Forza 3.
horto
12-02-2010, 11:30 AM
Wait, the Fanatec wheel works for both?! I was thinking about getting a Logitech G27 wheel for my couch car cockpit, but it only works for PS3 and PC. This changes everything! Which one do you have?
btw great review Druid. You nailed it.
OK.. I own Forza 3 and GT5.. I have a Fanatec Wheel i use for both.
Roconne
12-02-2010, 12:52 PM
WTF has Polyphony been doing for 6 years.Working on 4 different games for 3 different consoles. GT4 HD, Tourist Trophy, GT PSP, GT:P and finally GT5.
Polyphony Digital is also a small developer who refused to outsource any of their work, unlike Turn-10 (who outsourced a lot of their work). For GT6, PD really needs to consider outsourcing their car modeling so that they can have ALL premium quality cars and not just a limited amount.
[edit]
So Kaz went on a big tweeting spree the other day answering many questions. Here are some of the "highlights" from those.
Flexible camera angles and “dynamic and wide-area lighting needs” are to blame for the sometimes blocky shadows. Yamauchi admits they are a problem and wants to improve them.
Yamauchi appears to consider the possibility of removing the in-game HUD (heads-up-display features) at some point in the future.
To unlock the Red Bull X1, you’ll need to complete the “Sebastian Vettel Challenge”, which appears at Level 30.
Online “lounge” functionality and other features will be added “one by one”.
Polyphony Digital continues to work on fully supporting the Logitech G25 and G27, though
Yamauchi admits he would like a “new steering device soon”…
Mechanical damage options will be implemented in a new update for GT5 coming “early December”.
As you may know, many players noticed that GT5’s face-tracking functionality only worked in Arcade mode. According to Yamauchi, it’s not available in GT mode due to memory issues with the PS3.
In-game rewards (such as the monetary prize in GT5 Prologue) for your performance in online events is something Polyphony Digital is considering, and may be implemented in a future update.
Gran Turismo 5’s official, 2-disc sound-track will be released soon.
Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.
The YouTube replay upload feature had to be pulled from the final version of the game because it took a very long time to render and it consumed too much memory. Yamauchi is still considering it, however.
http://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-on-gt5s-mechanical-damage-updates-more/
In addition to that, we know that leaderboards will be added to online really soon.
TokyoKiller
12-02-2010, 02:43 PM
Gamespot actually took their time to complete the whole game before posting their review, unlike other review sites.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo52/review.html?tag=topslot;subtitle;1
I am sorry, but to use an excuse such as they are working on 4 games at the same time is not a valid reason as to why after so many delays and hype, the game under-delivers when compared to its prior installments and its competitors. Forza 3 came out a year ago, and it still delivers an amazing experience to date. I still play it over and over.
I got a chance to play GT5 at a friends house and now I can definitely say they screwed up on this one. I was ready to purchase a Playstation 3 and GT5, but now with all this disappointment pouring across the internet, I can safely say I'll save my $400 on improving my gaming experience with my Xbox 360.
cklwilliam
12-02-2010, 03:42 PM
I usually don't worry about the body damage, but the engine repair will actually get you back missing HP. One race I noticed that my 458 felt slower than usual, so I backed out and went to check the stats. I noticed the HP seemed a bit lower than it normally did so I went and spent probably 120k in engine repairs and gained roughly 60hp back.
I'm not sure how frequently you need to do this, but just keep an eye on your performance and if you notice the car feeling a bit more sluggish than normal, you might need a rebuild.
what did you use to beat the rally challenge ? i tried 4 different car still at least 2 - 4 seconds behind...any tips?
horto
12-02-2010, 04:42 PM
took me a few times, but i used the orange ford focus RS ... i tuned it to the hp limit with air filter, ecu, and a straight pipe (i think)
i just finished playing the sebastien loeb rally challenges -- WOW! breathtaking mountain run
what did you use to beat the rally challenge ? i tried 4 different car still at least 2 - 4 seconds behind...any tips?
Roconne
12-02-2010, 06:06 PM
what did you use to beat the rally challenge ? i tried 4 different car still at least 2 - 4 seconds behind...any tips?
Which one are you having trouble with, Intermediate or advanced? Make sure you have Traction control off and the ASM off. Both of these will slow you down through the turns, not allowing you to keep the speed up.
For Intermediate, I used this build (remember HP needs to be under 345 to enter into the race, so don't go above that):
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07 - Cr. 42,400 at the Dealership
Tuning:
Sports ECU - Cr. 1,000
Racing Air Filter - Cr. 450
Catalytic Converter: Sports - Cr. 500
Chassis Weight Reduction Stage 1 and 2 - Cr. 15,000
Sports Tyres - Soft - Cr. 8,000
Fully Customizable Transmission - Cr. 20,000 - Set Max Speed to 230
For Advanced, I was originally using the Focus WRC, slightly modified. I won pretty easily with that, but then I switched over to the Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car. I won the Delta S4 doing the Lambo challenge in A-Spec Expert. If you aren't that far, you can make do with whatever WRC car you win from the Intermediate challenge, but just modify it a bit.
DruidB
12-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Someone PM'ed me about my fanatec wheel and i must have deleted it by accident..
I use the 911 turbo S with the standard pedals.. not the pimp clubsport ones though i might pick them up for xmas... it works on everything.. PC,360 and PS3.
The one downfall is the price and the fact you can only order online... mine took awhile to ship.
As some of you above mentioned.. many people were waiting for GT5 as a reason to pickup a PS3.. If this is the case its not worth it. Once im done all the A-spec content ill be firing up the 360 and forza 3 once again to get my racing fix.
If you allready have both systems and are still hell bent on getting GT5 then check the used shops.. ive seen a few used copies allready.
But for the love of Jebus dont go rushing out and buy a PS3 and G27 Wheel only to play GT5. Serious waist of money.
Anyone with a G27 wheel? From what I have read it is not fully supported yet. Some are even reported it's not working at all. (although I have a feeling the patch will fix this.) What are your thoughts on the wheels performance and feel with the game?
horto
12-03-2010, 01:51 PM
Car prize list - http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/gran-turismo-5-prizes-car-list.html
(http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/gran-turismo-5-prizes-car-list.html)
tweak_s
12-03-2010, 01:53 PM
Anyone with a G27 wheel? From what I have read it is not fully supported yet. Some are even reported it's not working at all. (although I have a feeling the patch will fix this.) What are your thoughts on the wheels performance and feel with the game?
I'm running a G25 which is also not supported but really, the only thing about it not being supported: Theres no pre-configured butotn layout. YOu can still pretty much customize buttons for your liking (I Believe). So overall, it was alright for me, wasnt a biggie.
cklwilliam
12-03-2010, 02:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrNdWeEeTCs
omg this guy can really drift lol
I'm running a G25 which is also not supported but really, the only thing about it not being supported: Theres no pre-configured butotn layout. YOu can still pretty much customize buttons for your liking (I Believe). So overall, it was alright for me, wasnt a biggie.
Only button I would be really concerned with is the E-Brake and making sure there is easy access to that.
TokyoKiller
12-03-2010, 05:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrNdWeEeTCs
omg this guy can really drift lol
Holy shit this guy is nuts.
cklwilliam
12-03-2010, 06:52 PM
i cant figure out to drift >_> my car keep over steering, anyone got any suggestion ?
Fobio
12-03-2010, 07:14 PM
i cant figure out to drift >_> my car keep over steering, anyone got any suggestion ?
suspension setup. gearing. tires.
with regards to Forza vs. GT5...like previously mentioned, no one game is worth dropping $300+ (or to some 300 + cost of wheel = 400 - 700) to get a system for, Forza or GT5...
GT5 is the best driving game for the PS3...Forza is the best driving game for the XBOX...unless they can cross-talk or say one day, they finally figure out cross-platform gaming (ie. guy on PC can compete with guy on PS3/XBOX), it really doesn't matter which game is better for those who really only have 1 system or the other, and wouldn't care to play the other one.
also...eventho I know some of you love the photo-mode and all the "lifestyle" aspects of the game, I CARE NOT ONE BIT about other features beyond driving and the driving experience...in real life, it takes some true technical know-how or resources/$$$ to do, and you can hear and feel an engine swap, but in a game, it's just 1's and 0's, so get over it.
Rims? LOL...I drive the inside of my car...unless you can quantify the effects of a set of lighter wheels or increased grip with wider wheels and tires (neither Forza nor GT5 can do either), then IT DON'T MATTER. I drive on the inside of the car...looks = nothing.
GT5 is difficult and frustrating...my non-carguy friends prefer NFS:HP...I did not get GT5 for the "fun" factor...it literally is a tool I use to keep myself up-to-speed over the winter season. And as such, sometimes it's like work...or like practicing the piano.
EDIT: the only part of the car I real care to mod are under the hood or under the car...but now that I think about it, maybe I'll pretty up the BACK OF MY CAR somehow to entertain my friends, who inevitably have to stare at my rear-end...lol...
SSmoked
12-03-2010, 07:50 PM
suspension setup. gearing. tires.
Rims? LOL...I drive the inside of my car...unless you can quantify the effects of a set of lighter wheels or increased grip with wider wheels and tires (neither Forza nor GT5 can do either), then IT DON'T MATTER. I drive on the inside of the car...looks = nothing.
in forza you were able to choose the hight of your rim which effected weight, and you could choose the width of the tire aswell. gt5 does deliver neither.
as for drifting the easiest way to start off is with a AWD car. differential 75%rear 25%front. tc, skid control both off. gearing should be shorter(gt5 doesnt do it by gear ratio which is dumb), and have shitty tires (comfort soft should do it). and torque(mid size turbo).
drifting a rwd vehical takes time as you must fool around with differentials, gearing, and downforce + lots of practice in the control department before you hit up the style depo.
Fobio
12-03-2010, 07:56 PM
in forza you were able to choose the hight of your rim which effected weight, and you could choose the width of the tire aswell. gt5 does deliver neither.
as for drifting the easiest way to start off is with a AWD car. differential 75%rear 25%front. tc, skid control both off. gearing should be shorter(gt5 doesnt do it by gear ratio which is dumb), and have shitty tires (comfort soft should do it). and torque(mid size turbo).
drifting a rwd vehical takes time as you must fool around with differentials, gearing, and downforce + lots of practice in the control department before you hit up the style depo.
I don't want to sound like I hate on Forza...I had an XBOX and I just decided to get a PS3 and not a 360...
yes, drivetrain upgrades, LSD and the centre diff really makes a "diff"...HAHA...difference that is...
I don't know if Forza actually QUANTIFIES the change in wheel size and tire width...being able to "customize" it is one thing, but having a real effect on the phsyics is another...
For those who cared to read the GT5 development, they left A LOT OFF THE TABLE. I think of these games as platforms themselves, ready for downloable content at a price. otherwise, the business model just doesn't make sense.
EDIT: height of rim is just wheel diameter..I remember that feature, but that doesn't make a difference in a game...both games can lower ride height, which should affect the car's centre of gravity...again, I can't/couldn't feel a difference with a lowered ride height.
SSmoked
12-03-2010, 08:12 PM
^^ i use to do tons of drag racing in forza3 and the smaller rim size would give me a taller tire. taller tire + lower psi in the tire would give me more controled launches apposed to other setups. not to mention the size width of the tire was the make or break for drag.
i do agree gt5 left alot of the table, maby just too much. i wish they had engine swaps in this game. my first car in game was a s15 which i wanted to do a rb swap into. my heart was broken when i opend up the upgrade list.
Fobio
12-03-2010, 08:21 PM
^^ i use to do tons of drag racing in forza3 and the smaller rim size would give me a taller tire. taller tire + lower psi in the tire would give me more controled launches apposed to other setups. not to mention the size width of the tire was the make or break for drag.
i do agree gt5 left alot of the table, maby just too much. i wish they had engine swaps in this game. my first car in game was a s15 which i wanted to do a rb swap into. my heart was broken when i opend up the upgrade list.
ok..smaller rim for drag racing = faster traps is cool...but dude, you know it's all about tire pressure and there's no way you can adjust that in eitehr game.
I'm sure there are games that can quantify tires pressure...but even I can't stomach how difficult they are...I'm thinking the NASCAR simulators, or iRacing...but I might eventually make the move over to iRacing...when I can set up a racing seat permanently.
TokyoKiller
12-03-2010, 09:01 PM
ok..smaller rim for drag racing = faster traps is cool...but dude, you know it's all about tire pressure and there's no way you can adjust that in eitehr game.
I'm sure there are games that can quantify tires pressure...but even I can't stomach how difficult they are...I'm thinking the NASCAR simulators, or iRacing...but I might eventually make the move over to iRacing...when I can set up a racing seat permanently.
Forza Motorsport 3 let you tune every single aspect of the car, and the physics took account of your tuning in every way.
I am still itching to just get a Playstation 3 and get this game lol, I don't know why...I'll wait till the game drops in price, seems like it won't be long before that happens.
Fobio
12-03-2010, 09:11 PM
Forza Motorsport 3 let you tune every single aspect of the car, and the physics took account of your tuning in every way.
I am still itching to just get a Playstation 3 and get this game lol, I don't know why...I'll wait till the game drops in price, seems like it won't be long before that happens.
I just read that after some searching, I have to admit that it is cool. What I also have to admit is that my steering wheel doesn't work with an XBOX, so that in itself stopped me from going with XBOX/Forza...
Having said that tho, I've been eyeing a Fanatec for over a yr when I got the Fanatec wheel stand...but doubt I'd go get another system for Forza...nor would I tell ppl to do so...it makes no sense to me! lol.,..
The best racing games I have played have always been on the PC...that is why I'd lean towards iRacing...
So I guess in the meantime, I'll wait for GT5 to maybe catch up with those sims features that makes a good driving game a great driving game, with downloadable update...
TokyoKiller
12-03-2010, 09:33 PM
I just read that after some searching, I have to admit that it is cool. What I also have to admit is that my steering wheel doesn't work with an XBOX, so that in itself stopped me from going with XBOX/Forza...
Having said that tho, I've been eyeing a Fanatec for over a yr when I got the Fanatec wheel stand...but doubt I'd go get another system for Forza...nor would I tell ppl to do so...it makes no sense to me! lol.,..
The best racing games I have played have always been on the PC...that is why I'd lean towards iRacing...
So I guess in the meantime, I'll wait for GT5 to maybe catch up with those sims features that makes a good driving game a great driving game, with downloadable update...
Just thought I'd give you an insight as to what is available in Forza in terms of tunning.
Made this video with my iPhone, excuse the shaky hands lol. I was using my other hand to control the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB0kncXYZg&hd=1
Roconne
12-03-2010, 09:53 PM
Just thought I'd give you an insight as to what is available in Forza in terms of tunning.
Made this video with my iPhone, excuse the shaky hands lol. I was using my other hand to control the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB0kncXYZg&hd=1
Based on your video, I can say that GT5 allows you to adjust many of the same settings; with exception to Wheel pressure and individual gear ratios (probably will be added with a patch, not sure why it's missing now).
Fobio
12-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Just thought I'd give you an insight as to what is available in Forza in terms of tunning.
Made this video with my iPhone, excuse the shaky hands lol. I was using my other hand to control the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB0kncXYZg&hd=1
thanks for the vid man!
this is the vid I saw...been looking stuff up instead of playing the game...lol...
http://g4tv.com/videos/50133/Gran-Turismo-5-vs-Forza-Motorsport-3-Comparison-Video/?quality=hd#video-50170
I have no doubt that Forza has the right combo now...and I also wouldn't really hold my breath for GT6...
this is one way I look at it:
http://g4tv.com/videos/50170/Gran-Turismo-5-Talkabout/
and yeah, I do the licenses, gets pissed...go for a smoke...come back and do it again...lol...
DruidB
12-04-2010, 01:05 AM
As was mentioned above.. Forza physics take into account the tires deformation under load, the tire pressure, the tire temperature seperated into 3 zones including inside, center, and outside edge (affects the pressure and grip) , the weight of the rim, the size of the sidewall, the tires width affects grip level and so does the tires compound. Wider tires weigh more (a few lbs) and even this is calculated into the physics model... Proper tire simulation is the First thing any "Sim" needs to get right.
Every mod in Forza changes the vehicles overall weight as well as Front/Rear balance. Add a huge turbo/Intercooler and you not only increase power, you also add weight.. but you add it to the front of the vehicle affecting the F/R balance. Add an ultra light performance exhaust and you not only increase the engines output, you also lighten the rear of the vehicle again changing the F/R balance and overall weight.
I would also argue that Forza 3 is worth the price of an Xbox if your a serious car nut and into racing sims/games. Mind you an Xbox can be had for less than a PS3. Also the cheap $99 Xbox racing wheel is actually not bad if you can live without a clutch pedal and proper gated shifter.
One thing to note about GT5, The clutch Simulation in GT5 is not really a simulation. Its a 1 or 0. On or Off. Even with a proper pedal setup. Another realism area where Forza really shines with one of the best clutch simulations available on any platform allowing you to feather the clutch in high hp situations and aids in driffting with realism. (I also am huge into PC Racing Sims)
stillmatic
12-04-2010, 11:35 AM
As was mentioned above.. Forza physics take into account the tires deformation under load, the tire pressure, the tire temperature seperated into 3 zones including inside, center, and outside edge (affects the pressure and grip) , the weight of the rim, the size of the sidewall, the tires width affects grip level and so does the tires compound. Wider tires weigh more (a few lbs) and even this is calculated into the physics model... Proper tire simulation is the First thing any "Sim" needs to get right.
Every mod in Forza changes the vehicles overall weight as well as Front/Rear balance. Add a huge turbo/Intercooler and you not only increase power, you also add weight.. but you add it to the front of the vehicle affecting the F/R balance. Add an ultra light performance exhaust and you not only increase the engines output, you also lighten the rear of the vehicle again changing the F/R balance and overall weight.
I would also argue that Forza 3 is worth the price of an Xbox if your a serious car nut and into racing sims/games. Mind you an Xbox can be had for less than a PS3. Also the cheap $99 Xbox racing wheel is actually not bad if you can live without a clutch pedal and proper gated shifter.
One thing to note about GT5, The clutch Simulation in GT5 is not really a simulation. Its a 1 or 0. On or Off. Even with a proper pedal setup. Another realism area where Forza really shines with one of the best clutch simulations available on any platform allowing you to feather the clutch in high hp situations and aids in driffting with realism. (I also am huge into PC Racing Sims)
The xbox racing wheel has now been discontinued because of Kinect. However, I was able to buy a used one off kijiji for only 40 bucks, a steal IMO.
Fobio
12-04-2010, 03:26 PM
I would also argue that Forza 3 is worth the price of an Xbox if your a serious car nut and into racing sims/games. Mind you an Xbox can be had for less than a PS3. Also the cheap $99 Xbox racing wheel is actually not bad if you can live without a clutch pedal and proper gated shifter.
I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I did see an XBOX deal thru my friend's TD Visa offers for $150 for the 4gb...at this point, I really think a Fanatec would be a better investment for me since it can be used cross platform and into the future.
How is your Fanatec setup? You use the shifter or paddles?
I really like the paddles and don't see a need for clutch in these games...but now you've got my interest peaked, as that might be a missing part in the equation for better shifting on a real track...
DruidB
12-04-2010, 08:56 PM
I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I did see an XBOX deal thru my friend's TD Visa offers for $150 for the 4gb...at this point, I really think a Fanatec would be a better investment for me since it can be used cross platform and into the future.
How is your Fanatec setup? You use the shifter or paddles?
I really like the paddles and don't see a need for clutch in these games...but now you've got my interest peaked, as that might be a missing part in the equation for better shifting on a real track...
I use the porsche 911 turbo S wheel, shifter and pedals. I do not notice a difference in laptimes while using the gated shifter however the realism feeling and ability to skip gears is worth it. The best part about the fanatec setup is the ability to mix and match different pedals and buy a little at a time as the wheel has padle shifters as well. You can also use Logitech pedals from the G25/G27 with fanatec wheels.
I use the padle shifters on vehicles that come with them in R/L to add to the realism feeling. The clutch is excellent for launching high HP 2wd cars as you can feather it out and feed in the power. I also have a blast power shifting everything. ( Shifting without taking your foot off the throttle and quicky tapping the clutch. Lays rubber in multiple gears and actually shifts faster than using auto clutch. My lap times improved with this technique.
One thing to keep in mind. If you want to use a fanatec wheel for GT5 you must get the newer "S" version. Otherwise you will have to purchase a $30 dongle from fanatec to use thier older wheels.
Also the clutch pedal in GT5 just acts like a button.. On or off.. No actual simulation.
mazdaskit
12-05-2010, 11:02 AM
I just picked it up & its installing now. so if you guys do online races add me lol
hit26k
12-05-2010, 11:08 AM
getting online to play with friends in this game is a complete fail in my opinion. outdated menu's and a rediculous 20-digit game room id you have to type in. Also throw in room-connection errors. I've only tried to play online once with phil, so he knows what im talking about.
mazdaskit
12-05-2010, 11:17 AM
how long did it take you guys for it to install??
Thrizzl3
12-05-2010, 11:20 AM
getting online to play with friends in this game is a complete fail in my opinion. outdated menu's and a rediculous 20-digit game room id you have to type in. Also throw in room-connection errors. I've only tried to play online once with phil, so he knows what im talking about.
they kinda fixed that now..we had a couple of online games but they were played well into the morning lol
2 hr install time
cklwilliam
12-05-2010, 11:58 AM
getting online to play with friends in this game is a complete fail in my opinion. outdated menu's and a rediculous 20-digit game room id you have to type in. Also throw in room-connection errors. I've only tried to play online once with phil, so he knows what im talking about.
I just picked it up & its installing now. so if you guys do online races add me lol
they kinda fixed that now..we had a couple of online games but they were played well into the morning lol
2 hr install time
whats ur PSN guys?
One thing that I'm an disappointed with in GT5 is that there is no Breaks tuning other then bias. No replacement option for carbon or ceramic pads, rotors, fluid even...or anything like that. Would be interesting to see people have great breaks early but suffer fade in the last few laps compared to someone that used a less bite, more durable compound.
Oh and if you get the chance to play it in 3D, DO IT! it looks great and really does add something to the game play...most importantly it truly enhances the in car view. The dash of the FT-86 concept just jumps out and you can see it's actually a 3D layered display. Looks great!
dragons4life
12-05-2010, 12:47 PM
who likes the opening song of the GT5? very catchy.
hit26k
12-05-2010, 12:54 PM
they kinda fixed that now..we had a couple of online games but they were played well into the morning lol
2 hr install time
good. havent been online since then for obvious reasons. took me 20 mins to install :)
hit26k
12-05-2010, 12:54 PM
whats ur PSN guys?
hit26k
hit26k
12-05-2010, 09:38 PM
online connection....EPIC FAIL!!!
Thrizzl3
12-05-2010, 10:58 PM
online connection....EPIC FAIL!!!
for real man..but we made up for it lol
cklwilliam
12-05-2010, 11:07 PM
for real man..but we made up for it lol
mw2 knife match ftw
TokyoKiller
12-06-2010, 02:21 AM
I can't believe you guys actually have to use an 11 digit number to play online..., like really, can you be anymore 1995?!
Roconne
12-06-2010, 02:37 AM
I can't believe you guys actually have to use an 11 digit number to play online..., like really, can you be anymore 1995?!
The online code is just to give to out so that people not on your friends list, can join your specific lounge. If you are friends, you don't need it...
rktsci
12-06-2010, 08:37 AM
Just out of curiosity...what controller are most of you using? A wheel or the standard PS3 controller?
I'm using the PS3 controller and I think it may be holding me back from progressing. I'm new to the console and have never been a big fan of the Sony controllers and I'm having a tough time being precise with it to find those fractions of a second needed to gold some license tests and special events.
For those using the standard controller...what buttons do you use for the brake & throttle? I use the right analog stick but that limits me to be either braking or accelerating and not both...I've thought about using the L2 & R1 analog buttons but haven't made the change yet...any thoughts??
mazdaskit
12-06-2010, 08:55 AM
whats ur PSN guys?
streetracing19
Kwokalobster
12-06-2010, 09:01 AM
PSN = Kwokalobster
cklwilliam
12-06-2010, 09:51 AM
Just out of curiosity...what controller are most of you using? A wheel or the standard PS3 controller?
I'm using the PS3 controller and I think it may be holding me back from progressing. I'm new to the console and have never been a big fan of the Sony controllers and I'm having a tough time being precise with it to find those fractions of a second needed to gold some license tests and special events.
For those using the standard controller...what buttons do you use for the brake & throttle? I use the right analog stick but that limits me to be either braking or accelerating and not both...I've thought about using the L2 & R1 analog buttons but haven't made the change yet...any thoughts??
lol i kno everyone is gonna laugh when they read this...
left thumb on the L3 to steer, left index on L2 to shift down/L1 rear view
right thumb on X to gas , index on square to brake,middle finger on R2 to shift up
works well for me.. all my friend saw me doing that and now do the same thing lol
hit26k
12-06-2010, 09:57 AM
lol i kno everyone is gonna laugh when they read this...
left thumb on the L3 to steer, left index on L2 to shift down/L1 rear view
right thumb on X to gas , index on square to brake,middle finger on R2 to shift up
works well for me.. all my friend saw me doing that and now do the same thing lol
after picturing this. im wondering how the hell you were playing mw2 last night. LOL!
rktsci
12-06-2010, 10:12 AM
lol i kno everyone is gonna laugh when they read this...
left thumb on the L3 to steer, left index on L2 to shift down/L1 rear view
right thumb on X to gas , index on square to brake,middle finger on R2 to shift up
works well for me.. all my friend saw me doing that and now do the same thing lol
I tried using buttons for the brake and throttle before but there is no way to modulate the input...they are either off or on...no way to modulate it like you can with the analog sticks/buttons.
Thrizzl3
12-06-2010, 02:59 PM
Just out of curiosity...what controller are most of you using? A wheel or the standard PS3 controller?
I'm using the PS3 controller and I think it may be holding me back from progressing. I'm new to the console and have never been a big fan of the Sony controllers and I'm having a tough time being precise with it to find those fractions of a second needed to gold some license tests and special events.
For those using the standard controller...what buttons do you use for the brake & throttle? I use the right analog stick but that limits me to be either braking or accelerating and not both...I've thought about using the L2 & R1 analog buttons but haven't made the change yet...any thoughts??
My setup:
L2 brake
R2 accel.
L1 shift down
R1 shift up
Triangle reverse
Square horn
Circle Handbrake
X lights
cklwilliam
12-06-2010, 03:08 PM
I tried using buttons for the brake and throttle before but there is no way to modulate the input...they are either off or on...no way to modulate it like you can with the analog sticks/buttons.
u can actualy press it half way or 1/4 or 3/4.. takes some time tho
xxSlidewaysxx
12-06-2010, 06:58 PM
yup, PS3 have, if you will, analog buttons. they are more multi-position but it's all the same......
mazdaskit
12-07-2010, 07:20 AM
just wondering lol what level is everyone on??
rktsci
12-07-2010, 08:39 AM
Only at a 10 in A-spec...have only dabbled in B-spec so I'm still a 0.
I only get a couple hours a week to play...if I'm lucky.
jonjon72
12-07-2010, 10:26 AM
Went back to Forza......anyone want to buy a slighly used GT5?
mazdaskit
12-07-2010, 10:38 AM
Went back to Forza......anyone want to buy a slighly used GT5?
Jon you cant sell lol has anyone tried the online again yet to see if we can get a TM3 race tonight???
jonjon72
12-07-2010, 10:56 AM
Jon you cant sell lol has anyone tried the online again yet to see if we can get a TM3 race tonight???
The slow pace of cars in GT5 is killing me. The sense of speed is lacking especially when compared to Forza. Its like night and day. Ya, I know GT5 is a simulator but I am getting bored and don't have the patience anymore. Also, the music is GT5 is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
PR3Y11
12-07-2010, 11:17 AM
post your thoughts, opinions, pros, cons anything good or bad about the game here!!!
my con is where the heck is the clutch feature...? forza 3 had it?? why doesn't gt5 have it?
Clutch feature is only if you have thishttp://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb398/PR3Y11/0b8b2770.jpg
You can upl;oad your own music and have it run in the background...or just turn it off...race cars don't have radios anyway.
We really need to have a regular online meet for GT5 set up!
you got to love the half eaten bowl of crappy dinner still in the pot!
hit26k
12-07-2010, 01:18 PM
patch being released for car damage:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1138796p1.html
Roconne
12-07-2010, 01:34 PM
patch being released for car damage:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1138796p1.html
this is the Mechanical damage patch that we were expecting to be released. One thing though... It only works online right now. In Single player and arcade mode, there is still no mechanical damage.
But I tried this out last night with some friends, and wow, it's pretty cool. I hit one wall going pretty slow and it blew my right front tire. I hit another wall and my whole tranny was messed up. After only 3-4 hits, my car was pretty much undrivable and I was limping around the track.
this is the Mechanical damage patch that we were expecting to be released. One thing though... It only works online right now. In Single player and arcade mode, there is still no mechanical damage.
But I tried this out last night with some friends, and wow, it's pretty cool. I hit one wall going pretty slow and it blew my right front tire. I hit another wall and my whole tranny was messed up. After only 3-4 hits, my car was pretty much undrivable and I was limping around the track.
I LIKE IT!
hit26k
12-07-2010, 02:43 PM
this is the Mechanical damage patch that we were expecting to be released. One thing though... It only works online right now. In Single player and arcade mode, there is still no mechanical damage.
But I tried this out last night with some friends, and wow, it's pretty cool. I hit one wall going pretty slow and it blew my right front tire. I hit another wall and my whole tranny was messed up. After only 3-4 hits, my car was pretty much undrivable and I was limping around the track.
you gotta grab picks of this. lol
Roconne
12-07-2010, 02:46 PM
Not mine, but here is a quick video showing off the effects of the new mechanical damage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaBZaFp0RQQ
Dave_The_BMXER
12-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Is it true there is no e30 m3?
Roconne
12-07-2010, 09:29 PM
Here's some good driving by the AI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvPdgXGc0JA
Thrizzl3
12-07-2010, 09:51 PM
i barely play this game now i think i wanna see how good the damage is now.
PR3Y11
12-07-2010, 11:19 PM
you got to love the half eaten bowl of crappy dinner still in the pot!
I come home to that 4 days out of the week.....
cklwilliam
12-07-2010, 11:27 PM
this is the Mechanical damage patch that we were expecting to be released. One thing though... It only works online right now. In Single player and arcade mode, there is still no mechanical damage.
But I tried this out last night with some friends, and wow, it's pretty cool. I hit one wall going pretty slow and it blew my right front tire. I hit another wall and my whole tranny was messed up. After only 3-4 hits, my car was pretty much undrivable and I was limping around the track.
lol now im scared to drive my nice cars!
McGuyver_3
12-07-2010, 11:37 PM
I am not very impressed wit this game what so ever. Yes the graphics are amazing but they spent to much time on the graphics and not enough time on proper handling for the cars. the fact you cannot change wheels on almost any car is just retarded. The licences how the HELL are you supposed to get a gold trophy? Every race i only get the silver and I am JUST shy of hitting gold. The slightest tap in the licencing system either against the wall or another car in a corner gets you disqualified. REALLY? come on I am talking about the slightest of touches/hits. I keep trying to give this game more chances but somehow i keep finding my way back to forza
cklwilliam
12-08-2010, 01:20 AM
$141 k + 89k down the drain... just fixed my ferrari, hit the pit stop wall dead on in one race once in the championship, now it cost me another $141 + $89k to fix it.. sigh.
cklwilliam
12-08-2010, 01:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
CHECK ITTTT :headbang this is wat u call perfect balance
Roconne
12-08-2010, 02:02 AM
I am not very impressed wit this game what so ever. Yes the graphics are amazing but they spent to much time on the graphics and not enough time on proper handling for the cars. the fact you cannot change wheels on almost any car is just retarded. The licences how the HELL are you supposed to get a gold trophy? Every race i only get the silver and I am JUST shy of hitting gold. The slightest tap in the licencing system either against the wall or another car in a corner gets you disqualified. REALLY? come on I am talking about the slightest of touches/hits. I keep trying to give this game more chances but somehow i keep finding my way back to forza
This must be your first GT game? It's always been super difficult to achieve gold medals on the license tests. They aren't ment to be easy.
TokyoKiller
12-08-2010, 02:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
CHECK ITTTT :headbang this is wat u call perfect balance
The GT-R literally took a shit on that Lambo haha.
McGuyver_3
12-08-2010, 05:23 AM
This must be your first GT game? It's always been super difficult to achieve gold medals on the license tests. They aren't ment to be easy.
nope ive played 3 and 4 and they seemed easier. The game is not all what people made it seem to be. I am dissapointed. I am awaiting forza 4 :huge smile
SSmoked
12-08-2010, 08:35 AM
I am not very impressed wit this game what so ever. Yes the graphics are amazing but they spent to much time on the graphics and not enough time on proper handling for the cars. the fact you cannot change wheels on almost any car is just retarded. The licences how the HELL are you supposed to get a gold trophy? Every race i only get the silver and I am JUST shy of hitting gold. The slightest tap in the licencing system either against the wall or another car in a corner gets you disqualified. REALLY? come on I am talking about the slightest of touches/hits. I keep trying to give this game more chances but somehow i keep finding my way back to forza
truth dan. the graphics arent even that amazing. the shadows are soo bad my n64 puts out better shadow effects. the standered cars look like ps2 graphic. the maps look ok minus the paper like grass&trees. the prem cars look outstanding tho. i refuse to drive standered cars. the prem are beautiful to drive and look at.
the licencing is difficult. i have over a dozen silver trophies that are like .05 from gold time, soo cheezed about these.
another thing that pisses me off. the vehical sounds. my LFA sounds beautiful and my 69 camaro sounds like a hair dryer. LOLWUT.
did they fix online yet? gotta start dirfting soon hehe.
mazdaskit
12-08-2010, 08:46 AM
last night for the damage it does work on the simulator too i got rear ended by a car & my bumper was falling off lol & Joe whats you PSN??
Does anyone know a good FAQ for the game. I'm interested in some aspets but can't find an indepth FAQ.
For example. Tires...they start dark blue then go lighter...is this wear or temperature? How do I know when i need to repair a car? or if the engine is damaged? That kinda thingy
mazdaskit
12-08-2010, 10:33 AM
Does anyone know a good FAQ for the game. I'm interested in some aspets but can't find an indepth FAQ.
For example. Tires...they start dark blue then go lighter...is this wear or temperature? How do I know when i need to repair a car? or if the engine is damaged? That kinda thingy
well last night i was driving my 850 HP american car lol & every time i braked hard it went from blue to red when i was trying to stop from 300km to 50 & the damage you will know when the car just isn't running as quick or how you want it i noticed it last night i need to do 25,000 on my engine & 35,000 on the body
See that';s the thing. The tires go red when they have lost grip, that leads me to believe it's temperature....if so how are they showing wear? If they don't, why would you ever use anything but soft tires...also, does anyone know if the comfort:soft tire is a better choice then the sport:hard?
cklwilliam
12-08-2010, 12:13 PM
See that';s the thing. The tires go red when they have lost grip, that leads me to believe it's temperature....if so how are they showing wear? If they don't, why would you ever use anything but soft tires...also, does anyone know if the comfort:soft tire is a better choice then the sport:hard?
well for a few reason... like for drifting u want tires with less grip ?? thats wat i read.
and on endurance race, most people don't put the softest tires so they dont have to go into the pit as often ( thats from gt 3 what i remember)
now with the ferrari im driving, if i use the softest tires , it heats up really quick when i stop fast or a long turn, then i end up losing grip and speed.
with one above soft, i still have the nice grip and higher durability, i actually ended up with a quicker laptime
maybe someone else have better explanation for ya
Thrizzl3
12-08-2010, 05:57 PM
im currently installing the patch..it better be worth the 4 mins of me sitting here doing nothing or else..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4acUz4nJw
CHECK ITTTT :headbang this is wat u call perfect balance
fastest tow truck evaarr!
cklwilliam
12-08-2010, 10:36 PM
fastest tow truck evaarr!
also the most expensive one
cklwilliam
12-08-2010, 11:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMqI8W0AMp0
lol.. im just that good
anyone still doubt asian driving skills now ? lol jk
Sergiomax11
12-08-2010, 11:53 PM
The mazda 3 is in the game. its called mazda 23s 03 its exactly like the hatch
Thrizzl3
12-09-2010, 12:13 AM
The mazda 3 is in the game. its called mazda 23s 03 its exactly like the hatch
ya you missed that post a couple of pages back....
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