Powder coating rims [Archive]

VertigoM

01-13-2011, 11:52 AM

I really like the look of the RX-8 R3 rims but I do not want to go up to 19"s.

Can anyone recommend a place where I can get my stock 18's powder coated to look exactly the same colour as the RX-8 R3 ones?

I'm a little worried about durability of powder coated rims. Will they chip/flake easily?

MistaChin

01-13-2011, 12:01 PM

There are many places around the GTA that offer powdercoating services. The quality of the work will vary from shop to shop and the kind of finish you order may contribute to the durability (clearcoat).

That said, I've used Quy in the past and his service and quality is top notch.

FoXy

01-13-2011, 12:03 PM

hit26k

01-13-2011, 12:14 PM

Quy's....powder coat color 210. Its the closest match for the R3 color (I have R3 center caps). I have that color on my rx-8 rims.

Cheers!

Edit: I'm actually supposed to see Quy about getting a rim redone so send me a pm and I can meet you there if you plan on making the trip to him.

jonjon72

01-13-2011, 12:33 PM

If your looking for powdercoating, Quy is the man. Did the work on my speed3 rims January of last year and still look mint. No chips or scratches!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/jonjon72/mazda31.jpg

VertigoM

01-13-2011, 12:37 PM

Thanks guys, I'll definitely look Quy up.

hit26k>> I'll probably wait until the weather gets a little warmer before getting them done. I was looking at Quy's colour charts and didnt seem to find "210"

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?39710-*Quy-s*-Powder-Coat-Colour-Charts

Are powdercoated rims easily chipped?

VertigoM

01-13-2011, 12:37 PM

If your looking for powdercoating, Quy is the man. Did the work on my speed3 rims January of last year and still look mint. No chips or scratches!

Wow... those look mint!!

jonjon72

01-13-2011, 12:43 PM

If he doesnt' have the color you want, bring in a sample of what it is your looking for and he'll work at getting it for you.

Powdercoated rims are very durable. Not easily chipped. I've gone through areas with pretty broken up roads and debris, still not one chip or blemish.

hit26k

01-13-2011, 12:44 PM

Thanks guys, I'll definitely look Quy up.

hit26k>> I'll probably wait until the weather gets a little warmer before getting them done. I was looking at Quy's colour charts and didnt seem to find "210"

Are powdercoated rims easily chipped?

I was planning on waiting until winter was nearly over as I already have the rim separated. I just need to stop being lazy and call him lol. The color 210 was on a sample piece he had on the wall.

In terms of chipping, no. My one rim that needs refinishing is due to curb rash. Otherwise my other 3 rims are in mint condition. No scratches, nicks, chips etc.

let me know when you plan on going.

Edit: here are the pics of my rx-8's in that color. I purchased R3 center caps and you cant even tell the difference...

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/2010%20Mazda3%20GT-E/hatch49.jpg

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/hit26k/2010%20Mazda3%20GT-E/hatch61.jpg

FoXy

01-13-2011, 01:47 PM

I have a pic of mine in my album and i've never had any chipping or anything. Just keep them away from curbs :chuckle

hit26k

01-13-2011, 01:49 PM

I have a pic of mine in my album and i've never had any chipping or anything. Just keep them away from curbs :chuckle

Agreed. A lesson well learned. :(

SonicBoy

01-13-2011, 02:07 PM

I have a small boo boo that is being repaired by Quy this month. Let's just say, the powder coat took all of the brunt and is the only thing flaking. Powdercoating is much more durable than paint.

Quy is still off on Vacation so try him after next week.

VertigoM

01-13-2011, 02:38 PM

I was planning on waiting until winter was nearly over as I already have the rim separated. I just need to stop being lazy and call him lol. The color 210 was on a sample piece he had on the wall.

In terms of chipping, no. My one rim that needs refinishing is due to curb rash. Otherwise my other 3 rims are in mint condition. No scratches, nicks, chips etc.

let me know when you plan on going.

Edit: here are the pics of my rx-8's in that color. I purchased R3 center caps and you cant even tell the difference...

I'll probably get mine done around March? I'll let you know. Btw, where did you get the R3 center caps?

I have a small boo boo that is being repaired by Quy this month. Let's just say, the powder coat took all of the brunt and is the only thing flaking. Powdercoating is much more durable than paint.

Quy is still off on Vacation so try him after next week.

Thanks for the heads up.

Pereira11

01-13-2011, 02:56 PM

I'll probably get mine done around March? I'll let you know. Btw, where did you get the R3 center caps?

Thanks for the heads up.

caps are $6.34 each with tm3 discount from any of the sponsor dealers

azn_outlaw

01-13-2011, 04:53 PM

Another place to consider:

http://brightsidecoatings.com/Joomla/index.php

Brightside Coatings
mike@brightsidecoatings.com (mike@brightsidecoatings.com)
416-570-8893

bman13

01-13-2011, 04:55 PM

Another place to consider:

http://brightsidecoatings.com/Joomla/index.php

Brightside Coatings
mike@brightsidecoatings.com (mike@brightsidecoatings.com)
416-570-8893

know typical price range?

Fobio

01-13-2011, 05:54 PM

Quy is back and I have spoken with him yesterday. The guys from CSCS already have 2 sets for him to do, and possibly more...this is the best tme of the year to start making plans...

Sales 101

01-13-2011, 06:26 PM

You mean like this?

Pewter (lighter than gunmetal)

Cost $250 Cash

Total Coatings
Address:230 Arvin Ave. Stoney Creek, ON L8E 2L8
Telephone: 905-594-9915
www.totalcoatings.com

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3917
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3919
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3918

eliminator

01-13-2011, 09:44 PM

decent price

bman13

01-13-2011, 10:02 PM

Great thread. I am planning on powdercoating soon.

VertigoM

01-14-2011, 01:15 PM

You mean like this?

Pewter (lighter than gunmetal)

Cost $250 Cash

Total Coatings
Address:230 Arvin Ave. Stoney Creek, ON L8E 2L8
Telephone: 905-594-9915
www.totalcoatings.com

Those look sweet! :thumbsup

Are those your rims? How's the quality of the workmanship?

Fobio

01-14-2011, 01:36 PM

Cost $250 Cash

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3917
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3919
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3918

Good prices...but does that include a protective clear-coat?

FLIPDADY

01-14-2011, 01:46 PM

I will be powder coating my current winters next season. Most likely going to Quy since his work seems top notch.

Sales 101

01-14-2011, 02:00 PM

Those look sweet! :thumbsup

Are those your rims? How's the quality of the workmanship?

All Mine. Workmanship is very good and they have sample rims in their offices.

No clear as it would change the look of the finish. Then again I did not ask.

A rock will go right through the clear to paint to metal like on hood of you car but powder more durable and for the price in couple years can afford to have it redone and change colour!

I was looking for a reasonable price with a good job as no to spend money on tires!

You want clear give them a call and ask. Prob not much more per rim.

philipfreire

01-14-2011, 02:19 PM

All Mine. Workmanship is very good and they have sample rims in their offices.

No clear as it would change the look of the finish. Then again I did not ask.

A rock will go right through the clear to paint to metal like on hood of you car but powder more durable and for the price in couple years can afford to have it redone and change colour!

I was looking for a reasonable price with a good job as no to spend money on tires!

You want clear give them a call and ask. Prob not much more per rim.

Thank you very much! For all those that hated on metal Coaters this guy just proved what I was saying.

Quy's vert good but IMO expensive. If u wanna pay more for it go for it. It will still chip. Btw been over a year with my rims and no chips or anything. Looks brand new!!

Kinn

01-14-2011, 03:02 PM

I'm also going to be getting my 2010 speed rims done by Quy this winter...still deciding between the R3 gun metal or a super high gloss wet black. As for centre's I was thnking about these, OEM mazdaspeed. Just need to know if they will fit and if Flip can bring them in for me.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/miralamorena/MIRAs%20PICS/Kosmic2.jpg

hit26k

01-14-2011, 03:20 PM

I'm also going to be getting my 2010 speed rims done by Quy this winter...still deciding between the R3 gun metal or a super high gloss wet black.

what color is your car? i really want to see high gloss black 2010 speed3 rims on black mica.

Kinn

01-14-2011, 03:21 PM

CWP

VertigoM

01-14-2011, 03:25 PM

All Mine. Workmanship is very good and they have sample rims in their offices.

No clear as it would change the look of the finish. Then again I did not ask.

A rock will go right through the clear to paint to metal like on hood of you car but powder more durable and for the price in couple years can afford to have it redone and change colour!

I was looking for a reasonable price with a good job as no to spend money on tires!

You want clear give them a call and ask. Prob not much more per rim.

Do you remember the colour code?

It's a great price but I just noticed that they're located in Hamilton. Is powder coating a one day job or will I need to drop the rims off and pick them up again another day?

hit26k

01-14-2011, 03:47 PM

CWP

i would go gloss black then.

coriolis

01-14-2011, 04:00 PM

Do you remember the colour code?

It's a great price but I just noticed that they're located in Hamilton. Is powder coating a one day job or will I need to drop the rims off and pick them up again another day?

If I recall, it'll take 3 to 12 days, depending on how busy they are and how much work needs to be done. Most of these places don't do rims exclusively, they do industrial work, and this on the side!

Sales 101

01-14-2011, 04:06 PM

Do you remember the colour code?

It's a great price but I just noticed that they're located in Hamilton. Is powder coating a one day job or will I need to drop the rims off and pick them up again another day?

PEWTER, no colour code he has samples coated on metal peices. was able to see finish up againt my rim outside in the sun.

Having the metal sample you can see and feel the finish.

Fobio

01-14-2011, 04:06 PM

Sales 101

01-14-2011, 04:11 PM

If I recall, it'll take 3 to 12 days, depending on how busy they are and how much work needs to be done. Most of these places don't do rims exclusively, they do industrial work, and this on the side!

Correct this guy has an oven to do your whole car. He just rolledout a truck frame when I was there.Dropped my rims off on wed pu on friday.

PR3Y11

01-14-2011, 04:22 PM

So how much is the price range at Quy's.

Fobio

01-14-2011, 04:27 PM

So how much is the price range at Quy's.

It's clearly listed in his section...17" will start @ $400 - 450 a set...1 powder coat + 1 protective clearcoat, LIFETIME WARRANTY AGAINST WORKMANSHIP DEFECT. Work out the best prices with him in person.

Remember...Quy is an official TM3 sponsor...heck, he even bought a 2010 MZ3 after seeing all of ours...and yes, it's already got a set of fluro yellow steelies...lol...

Support our sponsors, and they'll support you!

hit26k

01-14-2011, 04:29 PM

lets not turn this into another powder coat debate.

VertigoM, purchase a set of R3 center caps first and then compare the different PC's samples to best replicate the R3 rim color. Your timeline is around March, so you have plenty of time to drive around and see every powder coaters shop for samples.

good luck!

SonicBoy

01-14-2011, 04:55 PM

Remember...Quy is an official TM3 sponsor...heck, he even bought a 2010 MZ3 after seeing all of ours...and yes, it's already got a set of fluro yellow steelies...lol...

Support our sponsors, and they'll support you!

I was just up there today.

Wonder who chose such a funky colour to go with the Gunmetal Blue!:rolleyes

FLIPDADY

01-14-2011, 05:31 PM

@kinn the Mazdaspeed center caps will fit some Rays and Volk racing wheels only AFAIK. I think MPS or Speedbaby are selling a set, maybe you can message them and do a test fit?

Linuxglobal

01-18-2011, 03:57 AM

does Quy also powdercoat brake calipers ?

bman13

01-18-2011, 04:10 AM

does Quy also powdercoat brake calipers ?

Yes but you're gonna have to worry about the the removal from your car and re-installation of them.

Linuxglobal

01-18-2011, 04:19 AM

Yes but you're gonna have to worry about the the removal from your car and re-installation of them.

do you mean like take apart the calipers ? (remove seals and pistons?)

I have no issue removing the caliper from the brake lines off the car. Im not sure how hot they get during the process.

mleblond

01-18-2011, 10:35 AM

I second that, having Foxy's rims and mine done. Quy's clear is extremely forgiving!

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mleblond/DSC02865.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs573.snc3/31272_398729690885_502245885_4427978_619823_n.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s147/mleblond/IMG_0976.jpg

FoXy

01-18-2011, 10:38 AM

ouuuu nice one :hawt

j-ski

01-22-2011, 12:15 PM

damm....that orange powder coating is uber clean.

pnoy_vokal

01-22-2011, 07:40 PM

dj_chinaman2097

01-23-2011, 12:54 AM

How many times can a set of rims be powder coated?

SonicBoy

01-23-2011, 07:39 AM

Generaly to re powdercoat, the material is prepped by sandblasting the media back to bare metal for proper adhesion. Sometimes chemical stripping is used.

Thinking of changing your current setup?

Sales 101

01-23-2011, 09:33 AM

is the price including sand blasting or just powder coat

yes included sandblasting

pnoy_vokal

01-23-2011, 01:01 PM

^^ Do you have to book an appointment to drop off the rims or you can just walk in.

Sales 101

01-23-2011, 01:29 PM

^^ Do you have to book an appointment to drop off the rims or you can just walk in.

I just walked in.

j-ski

01-23-2011, 03:14 PM

Both hit26k's and jonjon72's rims look good powder coated. My winter setup is oem Mazda 16's coated flat black which I like. This is making want to coat my oem 17's that I run in summer instead of buying aftermarket rims.

Fobio

01-23-2011, 07:55 PM

How many times can a set of rims be powder coated?

when I did my research, it had nothing to do with the number of times the metal can be blasted and coated. of course, an aggressive blast job will wear down some metal, but I doubt anyone will include your rims in a batch of say rusted parts off a tank to be blasted together.

the issue with repeated powder coating comes from the heat treatment. aluminum alloys like most rims will develop stress as the (I'm not trying to sound smart here, just what I've read) metallic crystalline structure will begin to deform and rearrange themselves in a weaker way. this temp. however, is 475*+ at over 30min exposure. the processes that I have worked with, and this is why knowing the actual process each coater uses is important, is no more than 10 - 15min @ a time between coats @ ~400* as opposed to the quicker and harsher high temps.

in this way, you can say that you can coat and recoat as many times as you like as long as you do not over-cook, over-heat or over blast the wheel.

dj_chinaman2097

01-23-2011, 07:58 PM

Thanks Fobio. Good to know!

hit26k

01-23-2011, 10:25 PM

Thanks Fobio. Good to know!

+1. this means I can keep powdercoating my rx-8's for as long I need too. Thanks Vince!

philipfreire

02-22-2011, 06:47 PM

For those interested, please have a look on toronto-subaru-club.com to check out their reviews of the other coaters...that's all I will say.

On top of that....I have personally taken a hammer to one of over 20 wheels done by Quy for MYSELF, with a protective clearcoat vs. one without...so I know the difference, but proof is in the pudding...let's have one of you guys WITHOUT a clearcoat come show up sometime and let me bang on it with a hammer...it'll be great fun, I promise...

Point: you get what you paid for...whether you pay more or less, it's a personal choice...however, something of a purely cosmetic nature should NOT be judged on COST alone...if you do, then nothing beats ratlle can...when work is done by hand, workmanship trumps ALL.

With a clearcoat you'll damage the finish regardless.. depending how hard you hit you may not hit he paint but you'll nick or crack the clear... yes it will still look better than hitting the paint area.. but hey.. i got sways painted by Quy and with a vise grip I managed to crack the paint.. so really.. i dont see much of a difference unless he didnt apply a clear on that..

Fobio

02-26-2011, 01:29 AM

With a clearcoat you'll damage the finish regardless.. depending how hard you hit you may not hit he paint but you'll nick or crack the clear... yes it will still look better than hitting the paint area.. but hey.. i got sways painted by Quy and with a vise grip I managed to crack the paint.. so really.. i dont see much of a difference unless he didnt apply a clear on that..

he does not apply clearcoat on parts udner the car...he didn't understand why I wanted to coat my DP and manifold, until I showed him pics of it glowing. In his line of work, things unseen are usually not coated...so when we ask him to do under-car parts, he doesn't apply clear, unless it is something you had arranged with him to do or not.

If it cracked due to poor workmanship or coating defect, please take it back to him, not only for re-do as per warranty, but for him to know what went wrong.

Check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_fN-shOIzA

SonicBoy

02-26-2011, 07:16 AM

Wow!

I'll back that video up. The powdercoat is tough.

When I rubbed my MS6 powdercoated wheel this past summer, the powdercoat took most of the brunt. Lucky for me it was a simple re do of the powdercoat at Quy's with no damage to the wheel.

With that video, maybe we should plasticoat with clear on top of the powedercoat to simulate the sandwich bag. Maybe a new third coat option.:chuckle