Removing of Brown Rust Spots

[mazda3ride]

I know that one of the biggest problems that a lot of people have with their 3 is the rusting issue which I was also a victim of. I have been using a product called PF 600 made by Pro Form for years for removal of grease and tar off my car. One day I decided to use it on the brown spots that had come through the paint and to my surprise it got rid of the brown spots completely. I wish I had a before and after picture but I do not.

I buy the product at a local CarStar for $10 and comes in a 946ml can. Keep in mind that this product does not get rid of rust but the brown spots caused by it. Even though I have been using this product for years with no problems, please use this product at your own discretion.

For more information on the product, please see the link below.

http://www.proformproducts.com/en/products/detail/?id=43

Nick

[cwp_sedan]

Unless you are a victim to rusting fenders, pillars, trunks and doors, you are not the same victim. These rust spots have nothing to do with Mazda's "rusting" problem. They are particles that stick to the car and rust over time from the weather, air, etc. Some people also refer to them as rail dust but in most cases it is not.

Please search. Most people clay-bar the paint to remove the dots but it is a long and vigorous process. There are other washes that work and take less effort. Bryan from Concours has a great product that works quite well.

Looks to be a good option if it is "actually" paint safe.

[mazda3ride]

Unless you are a victim to rusting fenders, pillars, trunks and doors, you are not the same victim. These rust spots have nothing to do with Mazda's "rusting" problem. They are particles that stick to the car and rust over time from the weather, air, etc. Some people also refer to them as rail dust but in most cases it is not.

I was a victim of the rusting fenders and the product removed the brown spots completely. I am not referring to rail dust even though this product does also works well at removing rail dust. I no longer have my 3 but just wanted to share this product with people as the rust on my car made me literally sick to my stomach whenever I saw it and I know the rust issue has affected many people on this board. I will try to use the product on a friends civic that has rusted out and I will post before and after pictures.

[Flagrum_3]

The problem here is; How to get rid of what has caused the 'Brown spots', not just the spots! Nothing in liquid form will get rid of all rail-dust or whatever you decide to call it, as rail-dust will penetrate the clear coat, embed itself and start working it's way to the paint, then finally hit bare metal.Only a clay bar can remove these embedded particles...don't fool yourselfs.Removing embedded particles IS the main purpose for 'claying' and the clay bar.

Furthermore, 'claying' itself is not a long and tedious job.It can be done within an hour, 1/2 that if you have a friend.Not much time to waste if you consider how many hours you spend driving/enjoying your car.

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[rzapata]

The problem here is; How to get rid of what has caused the 'Brown spots', not just the spots! Nothing in liquid form will get rid of all rail-dust or whatever you decide to call it, as rail-dust will penetrate the clear coat, embed itself and start working it's way to the paint, then finally hit bare metal.Only a clay bar can remove these embedded particles...don't fool yourselfs.Removing embedded particles IS the main purpose for 'claying' and the clay bar.

Furthermore, 'claying' itself is not a long and tedious job.It can be done within an hour, 1/2 that if you have a friend.Not much time to waste if you consider how many hours you spend driving/enjoying your car.

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I assume this clay bar is somewhat a rectangle/square block made of clay of some sort, and you use that while washing the car?

[cwp_sedan]

The problem here is; How to get rid of what has caused the 'Brown spots', not just the spots! Nothing in liquid form will get rid of all rail-dust or whatever you decide to call it, as rail-dust will penetrate the clear coat, embed itself and start working it's way to the paint, then finally hit bare metal.Only a clay bar can remove these embedded particles...don't fool yourselfs.Removing embedded particles IS the main purpose for 'claying' and the clay bar.

Furthermore, 'claying' itself is not a long and tedious job.It can be done within an hour, 1/2 that if you have a friend.Not much time to waste if you consider how many hours you spend driving/enjoying your car.

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I'm not sure you have done a car in this sense. It takes much longer than an hour. lol. It takes much longer than a typical clean using clay.



I assume this clay bar is somewhat a rectangle/square block made of clay of some sort, and you use that while washing the car?

Basically that's what it is. You use it after you wash the car and prior to wax or polish.

[Flagrum_3]

I'm not sure you have done a car in this sense. It takes much longer than an hour. lol. It takes much longer than a typical clean using clay.

Haha I've been claying my vehicle(s) for years, well before many here including yourself even knew what claying was.I clay my vehicle twice a year and help others do thiers.So I have plenty of experience doing so, and as they say practice makes perfect.I can honestly say I can clay my vehicle in 1 hour or less.

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[cwp_sedan]

Haha I've been claying my vehicle(s) for years, well before many here including yourself even knew what claying was.I clay my vehicle twice a year and help others do thiers.So I have plenty of experience doing so, and as they say practice makes perfect.I can honestly say I can clay my vehicle in 1 hour or less.

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I didn't say a typical clay wouldn't take an hour. I can guarantee you though it would take you longer to properly clean my cwp. :)

[Flagrum_3]

I didn't say a typical clay wouldn't take an hour. I can guarantee you though it would take you longer to properly clean my cwp. :)

Obviously it depends on how bad or how long it has been since it was last done.Since mine is done twice a year, it takes very little time but I have done several which had not been done ever...White does seem to be bad.( In showing spots anyways).

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[Cab0oze]

White does seem to be bad.( In showing spots anyways).

_3All colors are equally bad, but yeah, they show up on white a bit more, just because of the contrast. If you detail your car, you are likely to find them everywhere. My silver 3 always has its fair share along the sides, but they come off with little effort. My gfs yellow G5 seems to accumulate them on the trunk like crazy for some reason...

[Flagrum_3]

All colors are equally bad, but yeah, they show up on white a bit more, just because of the contrast. If you detail your car, you are likely to find them everywhere. My silver 3 always has its fair share along the sides, but they come off with little effort. My gfs yellow G5 seems to accumulate them on the trunk like crazy for some reason...

Isn't that what I said? ...But your first statement, although I'd agree 100%, it is pretty hard to say for sure or to prove. As on dark colours such as Black or Blue or in my case Indigo blue; you can't see any spots whatsoever (Even in bright light and using a glass).You just have to assume they are there or suffer the consequences if you don't.

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[Cab0oze]

Isn't that what I said? ...But your first statement, although I'd agree 100%, it is pretty hard to say for sure or to prove. As on dark colours such as Black or Blue or in my case Indigo blue; you can't see any spots whatsoever (Even in bright light and using a glass).You just have to assume they are there or suffer the consequences if you don't.

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Yeah sorry, I guess it was just to clarify that there are other colors that its especially bad on (like silver, or any light flat color). You sure you cant see the spots at all, even when you're close on a dark color? I seem to remember (altho i could be mistaken) that I was detailing a guys black audi last year and he had them too, but obviously only noticeable when I got real close.

[Flagrum_3]

Yeah sorry, I guess it was just to clarify that there are other colors that its especially bad on (like silver, or any light flat color). You sure you cant see the spots at all, even when you're close on a dark color? I seem to remember (altho i could be mistaken) that I was detailing a guys black audi last year and he had them too, but obviously only noticeable when I got real close.

Well believe me, I get out once a year with a magnifying glass, yeah I know ANAL, but it's the only way to be sure, In clear sunlight and check her out.I never find any but in my case it's probably expected since I clay her twice a year and keep her well waxed.Thats one of the benefits to having a lighter colour; you can see the spots just by eye, whereas most people with dark colours don't and never bother to clay.


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