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p-o-g-i
06-28-2011, 10:23 AM
I thought this was an interesting read as I was going through MSN.......

http://money.ca.msn.com/jobs/gallery/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=29263270

These careers will ensure a comfortable lifestyle.

Looking for a job that pays the rent and leaves you a bit left over for a few extras? Now might be the time to get trained and into the workforce. Over the past 12 months (to May), 273,000 jobs have been created in Canada. If you're looking to join the workforce, or thinking of making a change, check out these high-paying career choices.

* Average annual salary in Canada according to SalaryExpert.com.

Chemical engineer supervisor Average annual salary: $99,300
Ask a chemical engineer about their job and you might be surprised by the answer. Contrary to what the title might allude to, chemical engineers don't actually develop chemicals — or even necessarily work with chemicals at all. Instead, this broad occupation develops efficient, cost-effective processes for creating and manufacturing everything from plastics and pharmaceuticals to fuels and, yes, chemicals.

Nurse manager, acute care unit Average annual salary: $99,500
Nurse managers oversee a nursing unit or floor (in this case, the acute care unit). They supervise other nurses in the unit, make hiring and personnel decisions, and oversee patient care.

Physicist Ph.D. Average annual salary: $102,300
After receiving a bachelor's degree in physics, it can take students five years or longer to complete their Ph.D.s. However, with an average salary of more than $100,000, all those years spent in the science lab will be well worth it.

Pharmacist Average annual salary: $102,300
Pharmacists can fill a variety of roles in health care. In hospitals, pharmacists consult with doctors on treatment selection, and advise on drug interactions, dosing and side effects. In pharmacies, they fill prescriptions and ensure patients understand their medications.

IT consultant Average annual salary: $102,400
With a world so reliant on technology, is it any wonder that the people who make it work properly are well-paid? According to HRSDC's Canadian Occupational Projection System (COPS), from 2006-2008, there was a shortage of workers in the computer and information system professionals occupational group (which includes IT consultants).

Construction superintendent Average annual salary: $103,600
Although it's still possible to become a construction superintendent with just a high school diploma, it's becoming more common for workers in construction management to hold a bachelor's degree, usually obtained in construction science or a related discipline.

Aircraft pilot jet Average annual salary: $104,500
Aircraft pilots fly planes carrying passengers or cargo. Before becoming eligible for employment at major airlines, aircraft pilots must obtain a pilot's license and complete minimum flight time requirements. Air Canada, for example, requires all new pilots to have at least 1,000 hours of flight time.

Public relations director Average annual salary: $104,600
Acting as the "mouthpiece" for a company or individual, public relations directors work with the media to gain positive attention for their clients, and minimize the impact of any negative attention.

Banking investment manager Average annual salary: $104,900
Banking investment managers strive to maximize the return on clients' investments, by investing assets in various funds or directly into portfolios comprised of stocks, bonds, derivatives, etc.

Corporate attorney Average annual salary: $106,300
Corporate attorneys write and review a company's legal documents and contracts, ensuring that they are accurate and representative of the company's best interests.

Burner
06-28-2011, 10:29 AM
A few of those seem low to me. $100k/year really isn't what it used to be though. If that was the sole family income it would only be enough to support the average suburban lifestyle in the GTA.

SilentJay
06-28-2011, 10:56 AM
IT consultant Average annual salary: $102,400
With a world so reliant on technology, is it any wonder that the people who make it work properly are well-paid? According to HRSDC's Canadian Occupational Projection System (COPS), from 2006-2008, there was a shortage of workers in the computer and information system professionals occupational group (which includes IT consultants).


I need to get in on whatever they're having. $100k? That seems so far away from what i'm making =/

rzapata
06-28-2011, 10:59 AM
They should include TTC Booth Collector in the $100K range.. :) Although, this pertains to mostly older people who had worked there for maybe 25 years or more.. :chuckle

It was a nice read. Sadly, my field is not included...:(

aZuMi
06-28-2011, 10:59 AM
Of all the jobs there, Pharmacist sounds the best...chill job and high pay. lol

Burner
06-28-2011, 11:02 AM
Of all the jobs there, Pharmacist sounds the best...chill job and high pay. lol

Just don't sample the merchandise. :P

aZuMi
06-28-2011, 11:03 AM
Just don't sample the merchandise. :P

Lol, I don't know about that. They may also have hookups for medical weed. lol, j/k

seelsy
06-28-2011, 11:16 AM
my job falls nicely in there, studying to become a CFA, id handle the bank investment managers portfolios :)

SKYMP3
06-28-2011, 11:19 AM
Doctor, Lawyer and some Financial Planner are over 100k easy....

For 100k...you have to count how many hours they work.....many ppl can make 100k if they work 60-70 hrs per week.

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 11:24 AM
They should include TTC Booth Collector in the $100K range.. :) Although, this pertains to mostly older people who had worked there for maybe 25 years or more.. :chuckleIt was a nice read. Sadly, my field is not included...:(

FYI, that was one person, not all collectors and one whom happened to work ALL the O/T that was offered him.Guess he didn't see his family much! So please don't go blabbing false info...thanks.

But you guys should keep your eyes on the TTC website for job postings, they have been hiring like crazy lately (higher end jobs), I guess because of all the system extensions starting up....you wouldn't believe some of those salaries.

The TTC is WAY too Top heavy IMO.


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FoXy
06-28-2011, 11:31 AM
lol I sometimes think about going to work for them in the engineering dept... but then I remember.... oh ya... they are crazy lmao... I work with them all the time hahaha

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 11:42 AM
lol I sometimes think about going to work for them in the engineering dept... but then I remember.... oh ya... they are crazy lmao... I work with them all the time hahaha

Being crazy is a definate prerequisite for any job in there, I believe ;)


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SilentJay
06-28-2011, 11:46 AM
Crazy eh? I might fit in nicely then... This current place has made me nutty!

rzapata
06-28-2011, 11:51 AM
FYI, that was one person, not all collectors and one whom happened to work ALL the O/T that was offered him.Guess he didn't see his family much! So please don't go blabbing false info...thanks.

But you guys should keep your eyes on the TTC website for job postings, they have been hiring like crazy lately (higher end jobs), I guess because of all the system extensions starting up....you wouldn't believe some of those salaries.

The TTC is WAY too Top heavy IMO.


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Hold off, I'm not really "blabbing" false information... I based my opinions on facts and I do not speculate unless I am absolutely comfortable of what I am gonna say... No harm intended just opinions and stuff.. Here's a link (http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/publications/salarydisclosure/2011/munic11b.html) and I bet you you'd find at least 2 or 3 station collector making $100K. No offence intended at all... Just some good ol' word play. :)

But yeah, TTC has nice jobs. Mind you, I would love to be employed by them and get all that experience... :thumbsup

rzapata
06-28-2011, 11:55 AM
lol I sometimes think about going to work for them in the engineering dept... but then I remember.... oh ya... they are crazy lmao... I work with them all the time hahaha

Heeeeey..... Not all engineers are crazy.... :(

But I have to agree, there are some that are out of this world.. What I mean by that is, they're minds are flying in some other dimension.... (*looks behind*) - Coast is clear. :)

Iceman_F1
06-28-2011, 12:00 PM
I need to get in on whatever they're having. $100k? That seems so far away from what i'm making =/

Don't I know it :bang

Cab0oze
06-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Dunno about that list... its all about how much time it takes to GET there, costs associated with it, and how hard it is to GET a job. One example:

I know a lot of pilots, and out of all of the guys that are trying to break into the field in the last 5 years, 1 is doing surveys at an airport, 3 are squeaking by as instructors at tiny airfields and one is handling luggage. Sure, if you can get hired by a big airline you're set, but to get there is very hard (and expensive, getting your private license, then IFR, multi-engine, etc is extremely expensive and you have to have a university degree on top of all that).
Also, remember the buffalo crash in 2009 or whatever? There was a huge article about how these pilots had to maintain 3 diff jobs and illegally work more hours than permitted in order to make enough money just to live. I guess MSN news didn't read about that.

Re; the ppl that commented about IT consultants... i think the catch here is that they're consultants, not just someone that works for a random company in IT. Once again, you have to be extremely good at what you do to be a consultant, its not just like IT degree -> poof -> 100k/yr
people who are good with IT stuff are a dime a dozen. heck, i never even took it in school, and im lightyears ahead of 70% of the ppl in our IT dept (and i work for a huge company)

mazdabetty
06-28-2011, 12:22 PM
Of all the jobs there, Pharmacist sounds the best...chill job and high pay. lol

Ya but then if you work in a drug store you have to put up with gross people asking "how do I apply my ass cream please?"

SilentJay
06-28-2011, 12:28 PM
Re; the ppl that commented about IT consultants... i think the catch here is that they're consultants, not just someone that works for a random company in IT. Once again, you have to be extremely good at what you do to be a consultant, its not just like IT degree -> poof -> 100k/yr
people who are good with IT stuff are a dime a dozen. heck, i never even took it in school, and im lightyears ahead of 70% of the ppl in our IT dept (and i work for a huge company)

While most of this is true, it can be said for any job in any industry. As a side note, unfortunately, on an all-too-regular basis in both my dayjob and my business, I come across people who insist they are extremely technically savvy, only to have them beg for help once something once-foolproof stops working :chuckle

SilentJay
06-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Ya but then if you work in a drug store you have to put up with gross people asking "how do I apply my ass cream please?"

Grease me up, woman!!
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Iceman_F1
06-28-2011, 12:38 PM
While most of this is true, it can be said for any job in any industry. As a side note, unfortunately, on an all-too-regular basis in both my dayjob and my business, I come across people who insist they are extremely technically savvy, only to have them beg for help once something once-foolproof stops working :chuckle

I know the feeling! :chuckle

Queue
06-28-2011, 12:43 PM
Of all the jobs there, Pharmacist sounds the best...chill job and high pay. lol

Actually, it can be a pretty hectic position! I used to date someone in the pharmaceutical field and she was always busy. They're constantly on their feet, plus have the responsibility of making sure they administer the correct drug. Imagine what could potentially happen if they weren't on the ball that day and gave you incorrect pills. Unless it was viagra, I'd be worried, lol

rzapata
06-28-2011, 12:46 PM
I know the feeling! :chuckle


While most of this is true, it can be said for any job in any industry. As a side note, unfortunately, on an all-too-regular basis in both my dayjob and my business, I come across people who insist they are extremely technically savvy, only to have them beg for help once something once-foolproof stops working :chuckle

Hey, you guys aren't referring to our IT department aren't you? :chuckle It sounds too familiar....

SilentJay
06-28-2011, 12:51 PM
Hey, you guys aren't referring to our IT department aren't you? :chuckle It sounds too familiar....

lol - It's probably par for the course wherever you go... Just that it happens more in some places than others. Just the other day, as I was sifting through this guys thousand-line spagetti code from circa 1975, he was babbling about "you know, I was building servers when you were in diapers".

FoXy
06-28-2011, 12:54 PM
Heeeeey..... Not all engineers are crazy.... :(

lol.... ummmm ya they are... it's kind of a prequisite. lmao

FoXy
06-28-2011, 12:58 PM
Hold off, I'm not really "blabbing" false information... I based my opinions on facts and I do not speculate unless I am absolutely comfortable of what I am gonna say... No harm intended just opinions and stuff.. Here's a link (http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/publications/salarydisclosure/2011/munic11b.html) and I bet you you'd find at least 2 or 3 station collector making $100K. No offence intended at all... Just some good ol' word play. :)

ut yeah, TTC has nice jobs. Mind you, I would love to be employed by them and get all that experience... :thumbsup

lol my friends dad is on this list... hahaha He's a police constable and apparetnly makes over 100k a year lol

rzapata
06-28-2011, 01:13 PM
lol - It's probably par for the course wherever you go... Just that it happens more in some places than others. Just the other day, as I was sifting through this guys thousand-line spagetti code from circa 1975, he was babbling about "you know, I was building servers when you were in diapers".

Hehe! He's just reminiscing the old days.. But still, I have great respect for IT people and programmers... I used to have a C programming course back in university and it's one thing that's really stretched my brains out.. :bang It's a good tool to learn especially nowadays, but I don't know if I'll be up for it. :chuckle


lol.... ummmm ya they are... it's kind of a prequisite. lmao

Hahaha, it's somewhat true... I may not be in that position at the moment but I think, the craziness is slowly creeping into my brain. :chuckle


lol my friends dad is on this list... hahaha He's a police constable and apparetnly makes over 100k a year lol

Nice one, good for him. :) I hope I'll be in that list in the future..

JonsMazda
06-28-2011, 01:43 PM
lol my friends dad is on this list... hahaha He's a police constable and apparetnly makes over 100k a year lol

Lots of pay duties I guess.

Jeff-TheBiz
06-28-2011, 01:46 PM
Of all the jobs there, Pharmacist sounds the best...chill job and high pay. lol

Actually one of the jobs I would never want..

See people when they are at their worst, paying too much for something they don't really want in the first place... no thank you.

If I wanted to do that, I would just work in the Service Dept... ZING!!!.. :gone

FoXy
06-28-2011, 01:49 PM
Ya that list is hectic, one enginner who used to work where i do now is at TTC makin 127k a year :whoa

fini
06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
lol I sometimes think about going to work for them in the engineering dept... but then I remember.... oh ya... they are crazy lmao... I work with them all the time hahaha

Please don't.

Or, if you do.. take me with you. So I don't have to be on the receiving end for once. :(


lol.... ummmm ya they are... it's kind of a prequisite. lmao

I'm admittedly crazy!

FoXy
06-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Please don't.

Or, if you do.. take me with you. So I don't have to be on the receiving end for once. :(

lmao awwwww... well we'd definately make more money lol Maybe after a few more years if I go crazy enough here!

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 02:37 PM
Hold off, I'm not really "blabbing" false information... I based my opinions on facts and I do not speculate unless I am absolutely comfortable of what I am gonna say... No harm intended just opinions and stuff.. Here's a link (http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/publications/salarydisclosure/2011/munic11b.html) and I bet you you'd find at least 2 or 3 station collector making $100K. No offence intended at all... Just some good ol' word play. :)

But yeah, TTC has nice jobs. Mind you, I would love to be employed by them and get all that experience... :thumbsup

Of course your babbling as you make it sound (or imply), as if ALL or a majority of collectors make $100+k a year when in fact out of the hundreds of collectors only a very few make that amount and as I said it's with extreme overtime hours.The average collector or driver makes far less and remember we are talking in the thoudsands of emloyees here.When it comes to the $100+ list, it is the top shits that are soaking all the money and it is quite a list.But damn I was stunned by the cop list, thats rediculous!


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fini
06-28-2011, 02:39 PM
lmao awwwww... well we'd definately make more money lol Maybe after a few more years if I go crazy enough here!

The crazier we get, just means we are even more hardcore engineers. They are directly related!
IDEA! How about we go work for the government? I hear they get paid well with good benefits too. Then we could probably bugger off to the pub for 3 hour long lunches :)

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
The crazier we get, just means we are even more hardcore engineers. They are directly related!
IDEA! How about we go work for the government? I hear they get paid well with good benefits too. Then we could probably bugger off to the pub for 3 hour long lunches :)

For all you engineer types you should apply at TTC, it's extremely high paying with out of this world benefits, awesome pension and it's also a low stress, do nothing job...it's Nervana!


But remember the main prerequisite is you must be crazy!

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rzapata
06-28-2011, 03:10 PM
The crazier we get, just means we are even more hardcore engineers. They are directly related!
IDEA! How about we go work for the government? I hear they get paid well with good benefits too. Then we could probably bugger off to the pub for 3 hour long lunches :)

I like that thinking. :)

CRAZY = HARDCORE ENGINEER. :thumbsup

A few of my friends do work for the City of Toronto and yes, it is confirmed their jobs are far more relaxed than if you work for a private company (Based on 2 people working for the city).

Government and TTC, would be great if they'd call me back regarding my applications..

fini
06-28-2011, 03:10 PM
For all you engineer types you should apply at TTC, it's extremely high paying with out of this world benefits, awesome pension and it's also a low stress, do nothing job...it's Nervana!


But remember the main prerequisite is you must be crazy!

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Crazy is no problem for me. Hahaha.. Maaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnn................. Who wouldn't want amazing pay and benefits?
I'd be worried that the engineers there hate me for not being good enough. lol.
I'm fairly happy with where I am for now for a bunch of reasons. My boss gives me lots of opportunities for professional growth. Which is important to me, as a young professional. Something that is not gauranteed if i switch to an organization like the TTC. or especially a government job.

I'm with Foxy. If in a couple years we turn SUPER stick me in an institution crazy then it might be time for a change.

FoXy
06-28-2011, 03:20 PM
TTC is definately a place where its low stress and dont work very hard... in the eng. dept anyway... BUT that being said, I have heard it's not for everyone as you could go crazy with the boredom and lack of challenge... I know I prefer to be busy then not.

fini
06-28-2011, 04:41 PM
TTC is definately a place where its low stress and dont work very hard... in the eng. dept anyway... BUT that being said, I have heard it's not for everyone as you could go crazy with the boredom and lack of challenge... I know I prefer to be busy then not.

I think our craziness has been clearly demonstrated now.
See you at the farm!

pacmann33
06-28-2011, 04:50 PM
My sister is a pharmacist. Wicked gig...she was accepted after only one year of her Bachelor of Science. 5 years of school time = wicked pay and work anywhere she wants. I am jealous.

I'm in building automation in our construction division. It does not pay very well and the stress level is high. I hate it some days, other days I love it.

I wish I made 100K it would make the stressful days a LOT more bearable LOL!

aZuMi
06-28-2011, 04:55 PM
My sister is a pharmacist. Wicked gig...she was accepted after only one year of her Bachelor of Science. 5 years of school time = wicked pay and work anywhere she wants. I am jealous.

I am jealous too..I think you can make anything interesting if you put your mind on it. With +100k salary, you can definitely make anything interesting. lol

pacmann33
06-28-2011, 04:56 PM
My GF's dad works at TTC and makes over 100K/year.

I won't mention his name or position, but he does have specific qualifications that make him a shoe-in for his role.

What bothers me is that fare collectors start out making more than what I started making in the engineering department where I work now. I've since left the office position and out into the field.

Just crazy I say!

rzapata
06-28-2011, 05:16 PM
My GF's dad works at TTC and makes over 100K/year.

I won't mention his name or position, but he does have specific qualifications that make him a shoe-in for his role.

What bothers me is that fare collectors start out making more than what I started making in the engineering department where I work now. I've since left the office position and out into the field.

Just crazy I say!

Yup, totally agree.. It makes me sad and ponder on things, should I have done things differently? Don't get me wrong though, I love what I studied and will continue on this field. It's just, when I see this, makes me sad and jealous.....


I am jealous too..I think you can make anything interesting if you put your mind on it. With +100k salary, you can definitely make anything interesting. lol

If we don't screw anything up or make some wrong decisions that can jeopardize everything, then we should be on our way to that goal.. :) But man, it sucks that I'm not even half way there yet...

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 05:47 PM
My GF's dad works at TTC and makes over 100K/year.

I won't mention his name or position, but he does have specific qualifications that make him a shoe-in for his role.

What bothers me is that fare collectors start out making more than what I started making in the engineering department where I work now. I've since left the office position and out into the field.

Just crazy I say!

I think you have the misconception that someone can walk off the street and get a job as a collector, that is not true.Most, if not all collectors are ex-driver's.Drivers with 18+ years service that could not handle the stress of driving anymore.So they have to keep the pay rate close or equal to drivers.Also any job you start at TTC there is an 18 month gradual pay system...so you don't get to 100% rate till 18 months service (In most job classifications).Also you can't expect to graduate University, go into your field of study and make top buck right off the bat either.You have to pay your dues and build your 'working' experience first, like every engineer before you.Same goes for almost every skilled profession.Have patience, strife to learn and you'll all get there eventually.


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Bleemer
06-28-2011, 06:11 PM
Many of us with average paying jobs will make over $2 million during our working life, however putting aside a good chunk of it and having enough savings/RRSP/pension to retire comfortably is the challenge ...;)

Flagrum_3
06-28-2011, 08:09 PM
Many of us with average paying jobs will make over $2 million during our working life, however putting aside a good chunk of it and having enough savings/RRSP/pension to retire comfortably is the challenge ...;)

So true...It doesn't help when you get that nasty disease called Mod'enidis....it never seems to end :chuckle


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Zuluwun
06-30-2011, 12:56 AM
"Aircraft Pilot Jet"? They fail to mention that a license is expensive, is only validated by a yearly medical exam, doesn't guarantee a job on a jet (hahaha, I wish) and that entry level pay even on jet aircraft (assuming turboprops count) isn't much more than the manager at mcdonalds makes.. Also that time requirement is a little off, last I checked, Porter required 1500 hrs for co-pilot.

Though yes, once you make it to a major airline, life is ****in sweet. By law, you're not allowed to work overtime and you can (more or less) fly for free if a flight has available seats. ON TOP of the 100k+ paycheque.

dentinger
06-30-2011, 01:20 AM
you could be a mechanic out here in Alberta, and make 40/hour flat rate. east 100k/year
or you could go a bit north, and work in the oil sands, and make $140k/year

*edit: im not bragging about Alberta, just stating facts.

aris
06-30-2011, 01:41 AM
Alberta has a higher cost of living ^^

dentinger
06-30-2011, 01:58 AM
not really. it may be a bit higher in some areas, but its not different that back home. you have rich parts of town, and not so rich parts of town.
besides, low tax and cheap gas balances everything out.

either way, this thread is about Canadian jobs, not where the cheapest place to live is.

Cab0oze
06-30-2011, 06:16 AM
yeah, I think the summary of most of the comments is that this list is waaay overgeneralized, and isn't really worth anything, certainly not worth picking or changing career paths over :P

Fobio
06-30-2011, 12:42 PM
Growing up, I always wanted to do what I loved...so I played in a jazz band and wanted to be a mechanical engineer.

Then I realized that to make money, you had to be near it. So I dropped music and took accounting. Went into engineering and realized that most engineers do not practice the kind of engineering they studied...and didn't make as much as ppl thought (even out in the Oil Sands)...so I switched out to do one of the "professions"...my parents were also worried I'd be "in a garage all day wrenching on cars"...

Now I watch over ppl's money...but I still want to run a shop so I can wrnech on cars all day long...

Such is life...money shouldn't be the reason why anyone does anything...a rewarding career is one that you'd do without consideration of pay...ideally, getting paid and paid well, is just a by-product of doing what you love.

fini
06-30-2011, 01:53 PM
"Aircraft Pilot Jet"? They fail to mention that a license is expensive, is only validated by a yearly medical exam, doesn't guarantee a job on a jet (hahaha, I wish) and that entry level pay even on jet aircraft (assuming turboprops count) isn't much more than the manager at mcdonalds makes.. Also that time requirement is a little off, last I checked, Porter required 1500 hrs for co-pilot.

Though yes, once you make it to a major airline, life is ****in sweet. By law, you're not allowed to work overtime and you can (more or less) fly for free if a flight has available seats. ON TOP of the 100k+ paycheque.

By the time you get into an airline in a major city you'll have already accumulated a fair number of hours. Yes, work is not gauranteed in the profession, but neither is it for others too. And, actually, you'll make more money flying bush than you would in a major airline unless you've been in there for a good number of years to make it to captain of a larger sized aircraft. However, if you fly bush you quickly progress and the pay is ridiculously high with practically all expenses paid.

Let's face it, pilots who fly in an airline work 80 hours a month with 10+ days off in between amongst other benefits and perks. I'd say that's a pretty sweet job which really offsets the costs of licensing.

Flagrum_3
07-01-2011, 04:22 PM
"Aircraft Pilot Jet"? They fail to mention that a license is expensive, is only validated by a yearly medical exam, doesn't guarantee a job on a jet (hahaha, I wish) and that entry level pay even on jet aircraft (assuming turboprops count) isn't much more than the manager at mcdonalds makes.. Also that time requirement is a little off, last I checked, Porter required 1500 hrs for co-pilot.

Though yes, once you make it to a major airline, life is ****in sweet. By law, you're not allowed to work overtime and you can (more or less) fly for free if a flight has available seats. ON TOP of the 100k+ paycheque.

Anyone with aspirations of becoming a commercial aircraft pilot and is young enough, best route to take; Join the Canadian Airforce.I farked up on this one a long time ago.

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Zuluwun
07-01-2011, 08:06 PM
By the time you get into an airline in a major city you'll have already accumulated a fair number of hours. Yes, work is not gauranteed in the profession, but neither is it for others too. And, actually, you'll make more money flying bush than you would in a major airline unless you've been in there for a good number of years to make it to captain of a larger sized aircraft. However, if you fly bush you quickly progress and the pay is ridiculously high with practically all expenses paid.

Let's face it, pilots who fly in an airline work 80 hours a month with 10+ days off in between amongst other benefits and perks. I'd say that's a pretty sweet job which really offsets the costs of licensing.

That's fair, there are a lot of benefits once you get established it's just GETTING established that's the hard part haha. Bush flying is a tough lifestyle though, that's why it pays so high. Also, flying for different companies means you're pretty much always at the bottom of the seniority ladder.


Anyone with aspirations of becoming a commercial aircraft pilot and is young enough, best route to take; Join the Canadian Airforce.I farked up on this one a long time ago.

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They have something like a year long backlog in basic flying training last I heard. Again, base living isn't for everyone. I haven't done more than a summer on a base, I don't think I could handle years of it. Shortcuts into the airlines don't come without a cost.

fini
07-01-2011, 09:06 PM
That's fair, there are a lot of benefits once you get established it's just GETTING established that's the hard part haha. Bush flying is a tough lifestyle though, that's why it pays so high. Also, flying for different companies means you're pretty much always at the bottom of the seniority ladder.


Not necessarily. Compared to the majority of 9-5 desk/office work people. Pilots advance much further and faster. One of my best friends has been flying bush for the last 3 years and he has gone up to captain of a caravan. In that short time there. In 3 years. I'm still in the same position with the same pay by comparison. And now he is coming home as he just got hired into an airline. So i would say that since you are flying bush or being an instructor just for the hours. You wouldn't bounce jobs as much. And if you liked those positions at all. You'd stay and save $$ in 5 years. Equal to what would take me 10 years!

Flagrum_3
07-01-2011, 09:20 PM
That's fair, there are a lot of benefits once you get established it's just GETTING established that's the hard part haha. Bush flying is a tough lifestyle though, that's why it pays so high. Also, flying for different companies means you're pretty much always at the bottom of the seniority ladder.



They have something like a year long backlog in basic flying training last I heard. Again, base living isn't for everyone. I haven't done more than a summer on a base, I don't think I could handle years of it. Shortcuts into the airlines don't come without a cost.

I never said it was a shortcut or that it would be easy but it will make you an exceptional pilot with airlines all over the world just waiting to hire you up when you get done.Start at 18 by the time your 28 your flying for whomever....that's what I've been told.

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Zuluwun
07-02-2011, 01:13 AM
Not necessarily. Compared to the majority of 9-5 desk/office work people. Pilots advance much further and faster. One of my best friends has been flying bush for the last 3 years and he has gone up to captain of a caravan. In that short time there. In 3 years. I'm still in the same position with the same pay by comparison. And now he is coming home as he just got hired into an airline. So i would say that since you are flying bush or being an instructor just for the hours. You wouldn't bounce jobs as much. And if you liked those positions at all. You'd stay and save $$ in 5 years. Equal to what would take me 10 years!

I actually never considered how the pilot career stacks up against a 9-5 desk job lol, you've got a point. Your friend's story is pretty impressive though, 3 years to captain, wow. I guess if you make those first few years count, it pays off later (literally haha). I hate instructing though, maybe I should look into bush flying.. hmm


I never said it was a shortcut or that it would be easy but it will make you an exceptional pilot with airlines all over the world just waiting to hire you up when you get done.Start at 18 by the time your 28 your flying for whomever....that's what I've been told.

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Well, realistically it is a bit of a shortcut, same as fini mentioned about bush flying (generally). It just collapses your time frame until a job at a major carrier. But yes, CF pilots are among the best in the world so, 10 years experience as a military pilot and any carrier would love to have you lol. Though, I've heard that some military pilots don't integrate into civilian flying that well.

stevenma188
07-02-2011, 07:51 AM
Don't forget that the pilot trade for the CF is currently CLOSED

drooberry
07-02-2011, 08:11 PM
owning ur own funeral home in a rural city can get u over 100k.
working for a corporate funeral home in the gta will only get u 40-50k.
(diff is getting commission vs a sales person getting it)