2010 M3S - Philips 5000k DiamondVision H11 Halogen

[davehkg]

Japan Philips has just released a new H11 5000k DiamondVision halogen bulb which I've been longing for a long time. Replaced my low bean from Philips 4300k CrystalVision to 5000k DiamondVision eventually. Also swapped away the Philips white parking light come with CrystalVision to Taiwan T10 W5W LED to match the 5000k blueish white.


Japan version Philips H11 5000k DV (DiamondVision) vs 4300k CV (CrystalVision)
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Stock yellow parking light
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Philips white parking light (free with CrystalVision for matching upgrade)
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Stock parking & low beam
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Philips white parking & 4300k CV white low beam
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Philips white parking & 5000k DV white low beam
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Replaced Philips white parking with bright white SMD LED x 12
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Right : Philips white parking
Left : LED parking
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Right : Philips white parking + Stock yellow low beam
Left : LED parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
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Right : Philips white parking + Philips 4300k CV white low beam
Left : LED parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
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Right : Philips white parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
Left : LED parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
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Right : Philips white parking + Philips 4300k CV white low beam
Left : LED parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
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New setup : LED parking + Philips 5000k DV white low beam
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Previous setup : Philips white parking + Philips 4300k CV white low beam
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Outdoor
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Light Beam
Up : 4300k CV
Down : 5000kDV
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Up : 4300k CV
Down : 5000kDV
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[davehkg]

Comparison Videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rYYDUCYL2A



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxHrT-0-GtQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTnPVbuIkg



Old video : LED parking light with stock yellow low beam halogen



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqhfV4BKTVE

[loosecannon]

Looks great! I'm also running 4300k Philips with TSX clear lens projectors. All I can say is once you go clear, you can't go back.

I think I'm going to switch over to the 5000k once I can get my hands on them.

Thanks for this!

Also, your headlights are different than ours here. We don't have that extra parking light in the corner.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

[davehkg]

Looks great! I'm also running 4300k Philips with TSX clear lens projectors. All I can say is once you go clear, you can't go back.

I think I'm going to switch over to the 5000k once I can get my hands on them.

Thanks for this!

Also, your headlights are different than ours here. We don't have that extra parking light in the corner.

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Can't agree anymore.

Do you mean you guys don't have the parking/position light?

[Fuyuzora]

@davehkg: Are the Diamondvision bulbs available for 9006? (fog lamp) I"m currently running Nokya Arctic Whites, but once they blow I'd be happy to switch to Philips, which should last longer.

Also, we have a dual-filament bulb for turn/parking instead of two separate bulbs.


Looks great! I'm also running 4300k Philips with TSX clear lens projectors. All I can say is once you go clear, you can't go back.

I think I'm going to switch over to the 5000k once I can get my hands on them.

These are Halogen bulbs, not HID.

If you want 5000k HID, check out TRS' Morimoto 5000k bulbs. I'm running them and have been very happy thus far.

[Ogata]

Any in 9005 white? Any idea what the Voltage is?

[ronphan]

wonder if these would work with the DRL?

[Fuyuzora]

@davehkg: Are the Diamondvision bulbs available for 9006?


Any in 9005 white? Any idea what the Voltage is?

Found the info on Philips' Japanese site - available in both HB3 (9005) and HB4 (9006), among many others:

http://e-bulbshop.philips.co.jp/csb/ctg/sp/00000017/cc/00000051/

Looks like 12V, 55W rating.

[davehkg]

Took a few night pictures tonight while on my way home.

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[Cudgel]

Very nice! I want to try and get my hands on some 9005 for my car now!

[Ogata]

Very nice! I want to try and get my hands on some 9005 for my car now!

GB? =)

[Cudgel]

GB? =)

Yeah, I don't mind if somebody wants to set it up?

[Ogata]

http://69.36.72.119/pictures/040310/R1127038.JPG
Can someone decode this? How come it says on the HB3 portion, the wattage is 60W where as if you see 9005, it reads 65W. I know some people have had no issues with an extra 5 watts but I just want to make sure I'm reading that correctly. DOT approved as well! (though it could be fake)

[davehkg]

http://69.36.72.119/pictures/040310/R1127038.JPG
Can someone decode this? How come it says on the HB3 portion, the wattage is 60W where as if you see 9005, it reads 65W. I know some people have had no issues with an extra 5 watts but I just want to make sure I'm reading that correctly. DOT approved as well! (though it could be fake)

If my memory serves me right, there are two different beam pattern and headlamp construction standards in use in the world: ECE for Europe & SAE for U.S.

Even the stock one has 2 different wattages imprinted on it : HB3 60W ECE/9005 65W SAE.

Stock one from my 3
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Philips HB4/9006 55W/60W
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[Ogata]

If my memory serves me right, there are two different beam pattern and headlamp construction standards in use in the world: ECE for Europe & SAE for U.S.

Even the stock one has 2 different wattages imprinted on it : HB3 60W ECE/9005 65W SAE.

Stock one from my 3
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/5080612285_1cf14f92e5_b.jpg

Philips HB4/9006 55W/60W
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ohh what the heck...even your stock 9005 says 65W. I just read the manual on my 3 and it is "60W" That's messed up. Well..going to buy me a pair at Costco (assuming I find it) and test it out.

[Pyro]

Yeah, I don't mind if somebody wants to set it up?

i dont mind running it, just need to find a source
i've been looking for white DRLs for a long time
not sure if these will still look white in DRL mode though

i wonder if these ones are real haha
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/hb3-9005-5000k-diamond-vision-vehicle-ultimate-white-light-headlamp-pair-dv-12v-65w-58743

[GSXi]

i dont mind running it, just need to find a source
i've been looking for white DRLs for a long time
not sure if these will still look white in DRL mode though

i wonder if these ones are real haha
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/hb3-9005-5000k-diamond-vision-vehicle-ultimate-white-light-headlamp-pair-dv-12v-65w-58743

hmm.. package looks iffy!

anyone know where to pick up a set locally (Toronto)?

[Ogata]

hmm.. package looks iffy!

anyone know where to pick up a set locally (Toronto)?

Fake for sure. I think the real package includes 2 194 bulbs. I believe Costco use to sell them. I'm trying to get a pair before resorting to ebay.

[Pyro]

hey ogata any luck?

[Fuyuzora]

Forgot to mention previously that I'd also be interest in a Group Buy.

If all else fails, I'll contact Philips Japan directly and see if they'll accept an international order.

[Ogata]

hey ogata any luck?

Zilch. Not sure if I want to get one on ebay looks sketchy...


Forgot to mention previously that I'd also be interest in a Group Buy.

If all else fails, I'll contact Philips Japan directly and see if they'll accept an international order.


That would be great!! Post up a GI and see what interest this may have.

[Akiba48]

which one is brighter? The CrystalVision or the DiamondVision?
From the pics, it looks like the CrystalVision seems to be better...but that's under different lighting...

[Ogata]

Forgot to mention previously that I'd also be interest in a Group Buy.

If all else fails, I'll contact Philips Japan directly and see if they'll accept an international order.

Yea no source for it at any Costco I went. Don't know if I want to trust Ebaying it.

[Fuyuzora]

Yea no source for it at any Costco I went. Don't know if I want to trust Ebaying it.

Definitely would rather get genuine product instead of buying a crappy replica.

At any rate, I'll draft up a letter to Philips Japan when I get a chance. Will take a bit of time due to final papers, and because my Japanese is rusty... It's still probably easiest to go this route instead of through Philips North America though, since the latter will probably have never heard of the product and have no idea how to order it.

[Ogata]

Definitely would rather get genuine product instead of buying a crappy replica.

At any rate, I'll draft up a letter to Philips Japan when I get a chance. Will take a bit of time due to final papers, and because my Japanese is rusty... It's still probably easiest to go this route instead of through Philips North America though, since the latter will probably have never heard of the product and have no idea how to order it.


Ganbatte! Boku wa Shinjitte!! Looking at Phillips Canada and THEY DO sell them and it looks like they changed their packaging too.

[davehkg]

which one is brighter? The CrystalVision or the DiamondVision?
From the pics, it looks like the CrystalVision seems to be better...but that's under different lighting...

For your reference:

M3S 5000k DV (left) vs M3 i-Stop 4300k CV (right)
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4300k CV
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5000k DV
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6079/6151856284_6bc8cc7888_b.jpg

[davehkg]

Definitely would rather get genuine product instead of buying a crappy replica.

At any rate, I'll draft up a letter to Philips Japan when I get a chance. Will take a bit of time due to final papers, and because my Japanese is rusty... It's still probably easiest to go this route instead of through Philips North America though, since the latter will probably have never heard of the product and have no idea how to order it.

Try to contact "AE Power (http://hk.user.auctions.yahoo.com/hk/show/auctions?userID=aepower2003&u=:aepower2003&clf=3)" where all my Mazda buddies got the Philips CV & DV from. Prices for CV & DV are much much better than those from Japan. DV series are all from Germany except DV H11 which needs to be ordered from Japan (a bit expensive than German product).

AE Power got 100% positive feedback but unfortunately it's Chinese page. According to the page, it does accept oversea order & PayPal (+4% services charge) as payment.

Copied from AE Power:
Paypal accept for overseas buyer but buyer need to pay 4% paypal service charges. All selling price is as low as cost price, we will not responsible for extra fees.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/aepower2003/AE%20promo/Overseasbox1.jpg

Try to email them to see how their offers are :
AE Power email : jakracing2001@yahoo.com.hk

Good luck! ;)

[Ogata]

Thanks Dave for introducing. I couldn't wait. I called NA Phillips Hotline and they led me to www.bulbs.com

http://www.bulbs.com/results.aspx?Ntt=phillips+crystal+vision+9005

I FOUND THEM!! The only catch is I have no idea how much shipping is even though they have a special where its free shipping over $25 bucks. I'm suppose to receive a call within a business day to find out what the "additional" charge is.

[Pyro]

Thanks Dave for introducing. I couldn't wait. I called NA Phillips Hotline and they led me to www.bulbs.com

http://www.bulbs.com/results.aspx?Ntt=phillips+crystal+vision+9005

I FOUND THEM!! The only catch is I have no idea how much shipping is even though they have a special where its free shipping over $25 bucks. I'm suppose to receive a call within a business day to find out what the "additional" charge is.
are these guys from the US? there might be duties too if they are, also most companies that do free shipping only do it in the US and not Canada. if that's the case, lets group buy to split the shipping/duties.

[Cudgel]

are these guys from the US? there might be duties too if they are, also most companies that do free shipping only do it in the US and not Canada. if that's the case, lets group buy to split the shipping/duties.

I was thinking about this too but I want the Diamond Vision and it looks like they don't carry that model.

[Ogata]

I was thinking about this too but I want the Diamond Vision and it looks like they don't carry that model.


Good point...they don't show it on the NA website but they do have a 5000K bulb.



are these guys from the US? there might be duties too if they are, also most companies that do free shipping only do it in the US and not Canada. if that's the case, lets group buy to split the shipping/duties.

I didn't ask if a GB could be possible with them. I was going to see how much duties I'd be dinged for. However, they gave me the option to choose Fed Ex or USPS. No Brainer there. Yes, they are from the States. NA Phillips said they were an authorized dealer.

[Pyro]

Good point...they don't show it on the NA website but they do have a 5000K bulb.




I didn't ask if a GB could be possible with them. I was going to see how much duties I'd be dinged for. However, they gave me the option to choose Fed Ex or USPS. No Brainer there. Yes, they are from the States. NA Phillips said they were an authorized dealer.
Ok, i guess we'll all wait for your review of them then since you already ordered haha. im interested in having white DRLs the most (since apparently LEDs wont work because of the way the headlights are wired)

please post up some pics when you get them, both DRL mode and high beam mode!

[Ogata]

Ok, i guess we'll all wait for your review of them then since you already ordered haha. im interested in having white DRLs the most (since apparently LEDs wont work because of the way the headlights are wired)

please post up some pics when you get them, both DRL mode and high beam mode!


Will do!! Thats correct you need a wiring harness otherwise, you can only use them as high beams and the lighting is pretty weak. I have some LED DRLs sitting around that I don't plan on using anytime soon.

[Ogata]

Ok guys just do noone is left out of the blue here. Apparently, Phillips had the bulbs on backorder. Once I receive them, I will post some pics and if I'm not sluggish...a review.

[Pyro]

cool, keep us in the loop...

http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb3-9005

powerbulbs.com is offering 15% off + free shipping around the world, so this might also be a good site to pick up the bulbs as well. The Blue Vision Ultra in the above link are 4000K though.

[Ogata]

Ugh..bulbs.com screwed up on the shipping and shipped it to the wrong address and had to reship another one. They also refused to ship on express unless i went UPS or Fed -ex which I declined. Will wait until the New Year to come I guess.

[Pyro]

man thats annoying haha....oh well still waiting for your results

[Ogata]

man thats annoying haha....oh well still waiting for your results

GOOD NEWS THEY CAME IN!! Pics to come..

[Pyro]

got pics :D

[CopperRouGe]

how 'bout now?

[Ogata]

Haven't had the chance to install...working night shift takes it toll...I'll post pics once I get around to it (hopefully this weekend)

[Pyro]

lol alright still waiting....it only takes 5 min to switch these bulbs man :D

[Ogata]

lol alright still waiting....it only takes 5 min to switch these bulbs man :D

I know...too lazy to pop the plastic that is on the driver's side. If memory serves me right, are there screws that hold the bulbs in place?

[Ogata]

Ok so after some "5" minutes, I installed them...as I expected, they were not as close to 4300K and I believe other members have said that even the Sylvania ones still look like stock. However, my headlights are dirty sooo myabe a clean and I'll take some better pics. Also HELP!! I dropped a small screw driver and it fell down I think its below the Engine...should I go ask someone to help me remove it? I don't have a jack to jack up the car to go underneath.

[Pyro]

Ok so after some "5" minutes, I installed them...as I expected, they were not as close to 4300K and I believe other members have said that even the Sylvania ones still look like stock. However, my headlights are dirty sooo myabe a clean and I'll take some better pics. Also HELP!! I dropped a small screw driver and it fell down I think its below the Engine...should I go ask someone to help me remove it? I don't have a jack to jack up the car to go underneath.

that happened when n00b was working on my car lol
his neighbor had to go under and smack the undershield until it fell out
didn't need to jack up the car but there wasn't a whole lotta space down there

[Ogata]

Pics are here:

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?60068-FS-Ignited-and-Phillips-9005-Headlight-Bulbs

[Akiba48]

Pics are here:

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?60068-FS-Ignited-and-Phillips-9005-Headlight-Bulbs

I lol-ed at the difference between the OEM and the Phillips