How much should I be getting charged for lubricate caliper slide rails/pins?

[Hoodzy]

Hey guy's just curious as to what you've been charged for the lubricate caliper slide rails/pins service.
As well an oil change where you provide your own oil.

Where I live there are 2 Mazda dealers and they both have pricing differences.

Dealer #1
Brake Service= 139.95
Oil Change= 29.95

Dealer #2
Brake Service= 122.74
Oil Change = originally 36.36 but will price match the 29.95

[jmacman12]

Woah, I thought my stealership was bad! I pay about half that out here in Montreal...

[SomeGuy]

That sounds about right...it's about an hour to an hour and a half of shop labour and some lubricant and such. Doesn't surprise me at all. Mind you it's a fairly easy job to do.

[JaYson]

That sounds about right...it's about an hour to an hour and a half of shop labour and some lubricant and such. Doesn't surprise me at all. Mind you it's a fairly easy job to do.

How easy is easy? any How-tos you can link?


also likely a semi-stupid question. is there a specific type of slide rail lube to use?

[Cab0oze]

Lube the caliper pins? Umm.... that takes me about 30 mins and i can do it without even taking the wheels off (with my summer wheels). If i had the wheels off i could probably do it in 15. Its suuuuper easy to do.

All you have to do is get access to the inboard side of the caliper - there is two dust boots/caps.
1. Remove both caps by hand
2. Figure out the right tool to unscrew the pin. I dont know what bit i used offhand. It wasn't one that I had in most of my toolkits.
3. Unscrew one pin. Clean off any crap on it, and squeeze a wee bit of lube onto it (available from can tire)
4. Reinstall the pin, do not over-tighten.
5. Reinstall the cap.
6. Repeat for the other pin
7. Repeat for other 3 calipers.

[JaYson]

Lube the caliper pins? Umm.... that takes me about 30 mins and i can do it without even taking the wheels off (with my summer wheels). If i had the wheels off i could probably do it in 15. Its suuuuper easy to do.

All you have to do is get access to the inboard side of the caliper - there is two dust boots/caps.
1. Remove both caps by hand
2. Figure out the right tool to unscrew the pin. I dont know what bit i used offhand. It wasn't one that I had in most of my toolkits.
3. Unscrew one pin. Clean off any crap on it, and squeeze a wee bit of lube onto it (available from can tire)
4. Reinstall the pin, do not over-tighten.
5. Reinstall the cap.
6. Repeat for the other pin
7. Repeat for other 3 calipers.

what type of lube do you recommend?


:hijack smiley

[standsideways]

Any high temp grease will do.

i use the stuff that comes with Hawk pads.

if your car has 100k and original sliders get new ones, there a few bucks each.

[SomeGuy]

Any high temp grease will do.

i use the stuff that comes with Hawk pads.

if your car has 100k and original sliders get new ones, there a few bucks each.

No no no no...the stuff that comes with the pads is anti-squeel NOT caliper lube.

The other thing is, it's not just the pins you need to lube...the rails also need cleaning and grease (not with caliper lube, but actual grease). To get at the rails you have to take the entire caliper off as well so you really need to remove your wheel.

The size I believe is a 7mm allen head for the caliper slide pins. Although speed 3's have a 55 torx on the front.

Easy as in, the proper tools and understanding of how the brakes are all put together should take only a couple hours.

They sell little tubes for like 5-10 bucks at canadian tire of the caliper lube. Should be available at any auto store though. Keep in mind that grease will ruin the rubber bushing that the pins slide in, causing them to swell and eventually stick, causing seized calipers and horribly worn brakes.

[Hoodzy]

Don't you use anti seize lube?

[SomeGuy]

The one on the left is what comes with brake pads and is applied to the back of the pad to prevent squeeling. The one on the right is what is used to lubricate the caliper pins. Both of these are available at canadian tire or any auto parts store really.

http://someforum.net/2012/BrakeLubes.jpg

[Cab0oze]

No no no no...the stuff that comes with the pads is anti-squeel NOT caliper lube.

[...]
Keep in mind that grease will ruin the rubber bushing that the pins slide in, causing them to swell and eventually stick, causing seized calipers and horribly worn brakes.+1000 make sure that if you're going to do this that you use something that is safe on rubber. See SomeGuy's post above.

Anti-seize is NOT safe on rubber as far as i know.

[SomeGuy]

Don't you use anti seize lube?

I didn't take a picture of my own, but this is anti-seize. It's not used anywhere in the braking system except maybe the couple bolts that attach the caliper bracket to the car.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r129-sl-class/228610d1237658610-spark-plugs-ngk-bosch-beru-02-photoid3032.jpg

Definitely do not use anti-seize on your pins. See my above post for the proper one.