Power Steering Malfunction and TCS/DSC lights on, what could it be ?

[paulabreu]

This morning after turning on the car and driving it for about 3 km, the Power Steering Malfuction and TCS/DSC lights turned on, so i pulled over and turned the car off and on again and only the TCS/DSC light was on for about 20 KM then it went off.

the car didnt feel weird at all and the steering was smooth as always, why did it happen D: ? any suggestions ? :S

[Cosmo77]

Have tha car scanned for codes and go from there. If the lights came on there is a problem in the system.

[paulabreu]

also when the TCS/DSC light was on, i tried turning the DSC off but it wouldnt do anything. After the TSC/DSC light when off by itself i drove the car for another 70 KM and it was fine.


Have tha car scanned for codes and go from there. If the lights came on there is a problem in the system.

where can i get it scanned for codes besides the dealership?

[Cosmo77]

Soemthing wrong with dealerships?

[cwp_sedan]

Ya especially when you are still under warranty on your 2011 right? It's covered and you are trying to stay away from dealerships and pay money when you don't have to?

I'm confused.

[paulabreu]

Ya especially when you are still under warranty on your 2011 right? It's covered and you are trying to stay away from dealerships and pay money when you don't have to?

I'm confused.


well if it comes on again ill take it to the dealership but i would like to know another place beside dealership just in case they say " theres nothing wrong ".

[Cosmo77]

ok?

[paulabreu]

i guess i didnt explain myself good :p sorry, i meant, i would like to know of another place who do it just to have a second opinion, not that i dont trust the dealership but i have had bad experiences with dealerships

[416GXM3]

what the **** is wrong with my car.. this happened to me tonight too.. it just went on for no reason

[WHO]

Time for a visit to the stealership. Maybe take some video evidence the next time it does it, so that way they can't deny it if the light isn't actually on when they look at it.
For the DSC light perhaps some mud or snow built up int he sensor area. But for the power steering, you don't want to mess with that.

[Booter22]

Time for a visit to the stealership. Maybe take some video evidence the next time it does it, so that way they can't deny it if the light isn't actually on when they look at it.
For the DSC light perhaps some mud or snow built up int he sensor area. But for the power steering, you don't want to mess with that.

no one would "deny" it did or didnt happen. i think a video would be a bit over the top. but hey thats me. anyway if the lights are on. go in. the codes can not be read by the computer if the light is not on because they do not store codes like an engine light would.

paulabreu no one else. from what i know could read these codes. without the dealer software. engine light sure anyone with a scanner but other lights. i think you need to go to the dealer.

WHO take your stealership comments somewhere else, you strike me as the type of person that is going to show up when you have an issue and expect the dealer to bend over backwords to help you. jog on. or play nice.

[WHO]

WHO take your stealership comments somewhere else, you strike me as the type of person that is going to show up when you have an issue and expect the dealer to bend over backwords to help you. jog on. or play nice.

You're going OT with your targeted comment, but I have to say, I'm a bit puzzled. So, what you're saying is that one should NOT expect the manufacturer of their car to be helpful with an issue on a in-warranty vehicle (or, even out of warranty for that matter)? And, you're even saying that with a serious face?

Well, I'm sorry that you see my expectations as too high....

Look at real-life around you, many, many people are quite disgusted with the high cost and poor service offered at their "dealership". Even the actual car purchase often ends up being stressful, let alone the after-sales service...

Of course they would deny it, they would even try to charge you a hefty fee for the 5 minutes they took to look at the car and come back with "we didn't see anything".

The day stealerships start being honest, transparent and helpful (yes! helpful! How dare I?) is the day many people will stop calling them "stealerships".

/END OT (I won't further reply on this specific subject)

[Booter22]

You're going OT with your targeted comment, but I have to say, I'm a bit puzzled. So, what you're saying is that one should NOT expect the manufacturer of their car to be helpful with an issue on a in-warranty vehicle (or, even out of warranty for that matter)? And, you're even saying that with a serious face?

Well, I'm sorry that you see my expectations as too high....

Look at real-life around you, many, many people are quite disgusted with the high cost and poor service offered at their "dealership". Even the actual car purchase often ends up being stressful, let alone the after-sales service...

Of course they would deny it, they would even try to charge you a hefty fee for the 5 minutes they took to look at the car and come back with "we didn't see anything".

The day stealerships start being honest, transparent and helpful (yes! helpful! How dare I?) is the day many people will stop calling them "stealerships".

/END OT (I won't further reply on this specific subject)

then you need to find another dealership bud, as soon as you start talking at the desk. people need to be paid one way or another. be it the technician who is working on the car be it 5 minutes or 50. no one no where does anything for free, so how is that a hard concept to understand. and it doesnt matter if its at a dealer for $100 per hour or some back yard shop for $50. shit isnt free. so if you have a problem with cost. just walk. its cheaper and you will bother everyone else less.

not sure why you are confused, I am not saying that a manufacture of any product should would or can deny warranty. what i am saying is YOU will be the one to show up at the dealer with an issue, demand they fix it right away and have no loyalty to them or the band at all over and or above you actually buying the product in the first place, and im sure if they could not help you right the moment you walk in the door you with get all pissed, throw your hands up and demand they do something for you.

i understand paying for high costs, trust me. no one likes paying $500-$1000 for anything ever, but do you have a house? do you maintain it? do you maintain your lawn? your car as something you drive and needs to get you to and from should be if anything over maintained and that comes with a price, again if you dont want to, then dont, change your oil only and walk away when anyone tells you the car needs anything different. keep in mind it is the JOB of the service people anywhere to make sure YOU maintain your car, not only to keep it running for YOU as long as possible but to also make sure YOU are safe when driving it.and to minimize and large repairs that could hit YOU down the road from not doing the smaller ones when advised. Do YOU see how clear and cut that is? yes everything done anywhere is made at a profit but do you really think the small shop that the technician owns has YOUR best interests at heart or HIS own pocket?

no one would deny anything, i can not tell you the ammount of things that will get done, checked, changed or replaced for free for customers. BUT this again is completed for customers that have a history, service there vehicle and value the dealership. but again this can also be done for customers on case by case as well. but if you are going or have gone somewhere that charges you for a 5 minute could not duplicate check, then you need to get the hell out of there, RUN in fact. if you are looking for helpful dealers here WHO then you need to start looking at different ones, the team we had at Budds did anything and everything we could to make sure customers understood what we were doing, what needed to be done, showing the repairs required, taking people into the shop for better understanding. and it is just as much that at at my new store.

there is many a ford dealer i would not go back to when i had my focus, but if i did not work in the industry i would still give another store a try. one bad apple in the bunch does not make them all bad. and im sure its not exact but the markup and over in dealers is a lot less then you would think.

anyway, sorry i take offence to the stealership comments but you all know, if you have met me or had your car serviced at my last location i will do anything and everything i can to make sure you are taken care of, and i still will. thanks for not further replying, feel free to not replay to anything on this forum if you are not going to be a positive part or benifit to this community.

BUT :OT

paulabreu have you had the lights come back? did the car have any other issues or was it a one time thing?

[paulabreu]

too much to read lol. Booter22 it happened about 3 times, the last time both TSC and power steering light came on and the steering felt really heavy but it hasn't happened at all since lol.

[Jackal]

I didn't read anything above but I say you take it to the stealership. :loki

[sarujo]

We need a firey cat icon for Booter22 !! :)

[Booter22]

Ha. Lol sorry. Anyway maybe it was a one time thing. My tc light came on after leaving tims. Then went off. Hasnt come on since and I was going 10 km/h.

[416GXM3]

drove it in the highway that same night.. and the lights went off .. no service for me until oil change wooho aha..

[416GXM3]

This would be something I would say until Booter22 helped me out...

now im gonna give scambro mazda a chance...


You're going OT with your targeted comment, but I have to say, I'm a bit puzzled. So, what you're saying is that one should NOT expect the manufacturer of their car to be helpful with an issue on a in-warranty vehicle (or, even out of warranty for that matter)? And, you're even saying that with a serious face?

Well, I'm sorry that you see my expectations as too high....

Look at real-life around you, many, many people are quite disgusted with the high cost and poor service offered at their "dealership". Even the actual car purchase often ends up being stressful, let alone the after-sales service...

Of course they would deny it, they would even try to charge you a hefty fee for the 5 minutes they took to look at the car and come back with "we didn't see anything".

The day stealerships start being honest, transparent and helpful (yes! helpful! How dare I?) is the day many people will stop calling them "stealerships".

/END OT (I won't further reply on this specific subject)

[m_bisson]

This would be something I would say until Booter22 helped me out...

now im gonna give scambro mazda a chance...

Keep an eye on that stealership... they have some questionable reviews in the other forum section.

Remember, consumer protection act says they can only charge a maximum of 10% over a written estimate.

[Booter22]

Stealership noooooooo :complain:flaming:bang:chuckle


Keep an eye on that stealership... they have some questionable reviews in the other forum section.

Remember, consumer protection act says they can only charge a maximum of 10% over a written estimate.