fog light not working, bulbs possibly burnt out [Archive]

07carbon3

01-02-2012, 07:06 PM

i just noticed today that my fog lights were not working anymore, i'm wondering what could have happened as both lights aren't working anymore. I bought the lamix covers from sechemedia and wondering if the film caused them to get to hot and burnt the bulbs.
i have h11 hids on oder so hopefully its just burnt bulbs so i can install the hids

Default User

01-02-2012, 07:19 PM

n00bMeiSter

01-03-2012, 12:37 AM

Yeah, the LaminX isn't going to affect anything. That's like saying you coloured the lens with a highlighter and now your lights are burnt out.

Chances are you blew a fuse some how, or there's a problem with your relay or you were lucky enough to have both bulbs burn out at the same time.

Do you have independent fogs? Could be that there's a problem with the wiring.

cwp_sedan

01-03-2012, 01:24 AM

Do you have HIDs currently installed or just halogens? If you have halogens what is the wattage?

I would definitely check the fuse and relay first though.

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 08:41 AM

i don't have the hid's installed yet, the HID's on order i think are 35watt. i got the fogs from nextmod and so if the fuse is blown can i get a new one at Canadian tire?

Do you have HIDs currently installed or just halogens? If you have halogens what is the wattage?

I would definitely check the fuse and relay first though.

xxSlidewaysxx

01-03-2012, 08:51 AM

Fuses are available at CT

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 09:05 AM

i was looking on there website but can't seem to find anything

Fuses are available at CT

cwp_sedan

01-03-2012, 10:06 AM

i was looking on there website but can't seem to find anything

Just go to CT, they will have them. I don't think they have all of those little things like fuses and connectors on their website. If you can't find them, look harder or ask at least 1 employee.

In your manual on page 8-55 you will see the the fuse for the fogs (under the hood) is slot 20 and is a 15A fuse. Check this first. Make sure the fuse is 100% fine. If it's blown, replace it. If it is okay, then disconnect the power connector to one of the fog lights behind the bumper and connect it to one of your stock bulbs you removed to put these in. If that light turns on then you know it's probably a bulb issue.

If that doesn't work yo may have a more serious problem. Then again it could be something simple like making sure your headlights are on first so that your fogs will actually turn on.

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 11:45 AM

Just go to CT, they will have them. I don't think they have all of those little things like fuses and connectors on their website. If you can't find them, look harder or ask at least 1 employee.

In your manual on page 8-55 you will see the the fuse for the fogs (under the hood) is slot 20 and is a 15A fuse. Check this first. Make sure the fuse is 100% fine. If it's blown, replace it. If it is okay, then disconnect the power connector to one of the fog lights behind the bumper and connect it to one of your stock bulbs you removed to put these in. If that light turns on then you know it's probably a bulb issue.

If that doesn't work yo may have a more serious problem. Then again it could be something simple like making sure your headlights are on first so that your fogs will actually turn on.

thanks for all the tips!
i will check the fuse when i get home and hopefully its just that so its a simple quick fix but if its not i have no other stock bulbs to try out. i haven't install the HID's yet

cwp_sedan

01-03-2012, 11:49 AM

I would suggest fixing this problem before you install the HIDs.

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 12:40 PM

yea true, i just don't want to have to possibly buy a new bulbs when i won't be using them

I would suggest fixing this problem before you install the HIDs.

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 01:17 PM

H11 is the right bulb for a 07 GS aftermarket fog light kit?

n00bMeiSter

01-03-2012, 01:42 PM

H11 is the right bulb for a 07 GS aftermarket fog light kit?

Yes

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?8408-Exterior-Bulb-s

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 01:53 PM

thanks!

Yes

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?8408-Exterior-Bulb-s

JaYson

01-03-2012, 04:47 PM

TIME TO GO LED! or HID...

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 05:05 PM

i'm going to HID once i have the halogen back working

TIME TO GO LED! or HID...

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 09:17 PM

i open the fuse box and there is no fuse in slot 20. I don't know what to do with the relay i unplugged it and plugged it back in but that didn't do anything.
i guess i'll go to CT or part source and get a H11 bulb and check that.

i played around with different light settings auto/on and keep clicking in the fog light button and nothing so i know its not that issue

Just go to CT, they will have them. I don't think they have all of those little things like fuses and connectors on their website. If you can't find them, look harder or ask at least 1 employee.

In your manual on page 8-55 you will see the the fuse for the fogs (under the hood) is slot 20 and is a 15A fuse. Check this first. Make sure the fuse is 100% fine. If it's blown, replace it. If it is okay, then disconnect the power connector to one of the fog lights behind the bumper and connect it to one of your stock bulbs you removed to put these in. If that light turns on then you know it's probably a bulb issue.

If that doesn't work yo may have a more serious problem. Then again it could be something simple like making sure your headlights are on first so that your fogs will actually turn on.

n00bMeiSter

01-03-2012, 09:28 PM

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 09:33 PM

where would i be able to get another relay for cheap?

You need to test it with another relay.

n00bMeiSter

01-03-2012, 10:15 PM

where would i be able to get another relay for cheap?

Just borrow someone's. You only need it for a few seconds to test with. If you swap out the relays and the lights work, you need to buy a new relay. If they still don't work, you need to check the fuse in the fuse box, your bulbs, and then lastly your PJB.

07carbon3

01-03-2012, 10:22 PM

i checked my fuse my box and spot 20 is empty?. and what is PJB?

is there anyone in the east end/beacehs area that could help me swap out my relay with theirs for a test to see if my relay is dead?

Just borrow someone's. You only need it for a few seconds to test with. If you swap out the relays and the lights work, you need to buy a new relay. If they still don't work, you need to check the fuse in the fuse box, your bulbs, and then lastly your PJB.

n00bMeiSter

01-03-2012, 10:46 PM

i checked my fuse my box and spot 20 is empty?. and what is PJB?

is there anyone in the east end/beacehs area that could help me swap out my relay with theirs for a test to see if my relay is dead?

PJB = Passenger Side Junction box. found under the glove box in the footwell area of the front passenger seat.

I'll get you all fixed up. But it'll cost ya.... Those tails :huge smile
LOL

cwp_sedan

01-03-2012, 11:18 PM

Are your fogs OEM or aftermarket?

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 07:42 AM

aftermarket from nextmod

Are your fogs OEM or aftermarket?

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 09:44 AM

aftermarket from nextmod

Well that changes everything. You won't have a fuse in the fuse box. There "should" be a relay harness installed that is connected to the battery that connects the lights. Find the fuse for THAT harness and see if it is blown.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 09:50 AM

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 09:53 AM

Ok thanks
Do I need to remove the negative battery terminal when doing that?

No it should be fine. Check it carefully and make sure that it is ok. Also you will no something is up with the relay/fuse if you can't here the click from the relay when you turn the fogs on.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 02:13 PM

Well that changes everything. You won't have a fuse in the fuse box. There "should" be a relay harness installed that is connected to the battery that connects the lights. Find the fuse for THAT harness and see if it is blown.

my kit came just like this so would the fuse be inside the relay itself or with those wires?
sorry for being so new but this is a learning experience for me

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cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 02:16 PM

There should be a separate fuse holder between the battery and the relay on the harness.

Like this.

http://image.made-in-china.com/4f0j00gMtaSDiKOPkU/9005-9006-HID-Fuse-Relay-Wire-Wiring-Harness.jpg

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 02:18 PM

would that have come with the kit?

There should be a separate fuse holder between the battery and the relay on the harness.

Like this.

http://image.made-in-china.com/4f0j00gMtaSDiKOPkU/9005-9006-HID-Fuse-Relay-Wire-Wiring-Harness.jpg

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 02:20 PM

thanks i guess that same applies for h11 as your picture is called 9006 relay harness

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 02:32 PM

lol...I think you should take it to an expert. You don't seem to have the base knowledge required to problem solve electronic issues. This isn't an insult, it's just fact. :S I just don't want you to damage something in an attempt to fix your problem.

The picture is for reference only so the name or any text is irrelevant. All relay harnesses are in a sense the same.

If your wiring harness didn't come with an in-line fuse/fuse holder then you are taking a huge risk if you ever get a power surge. Most that I'm aware of come with it.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 02:41 PM

you are correct. i guess i'll just wait until i can go see my dad/brother who are both mechanic's

lol...I think you should take it to an expert. You don't seem to have the base knowledge required to problem solve electronic issues. This isn't an insult, it's just fact. :S I just don't want you to damage something in an attempt to fix your problem.

The picture is for reference only so the name or any text is irrelevant. All relay harnesses are in a sense the same.

If your wiring harness didn't come with an in-line fuse/fuse holder then you are taking a huge risk if you ever get a power surge. Most that I'm aware of come with it.

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 02:46 PM

you are correct. i guess i'll just wait until i can go see my dad/brother who are both mechanic's

lol. I don't want to scare you.

Try this at least. Go to your engine bay and look for the (+) terminal on the battery. Look for the wire (usually red) coming off of the battery to the relay of your harness. Between the battery and the relay should be a little holder with a fuse in it. If there is, pop the top open and pull the fuse out and look at it. If the connection is broken in the fuse, the fuse needs to be replaced.

I have had to replace mine a couple times because it melted.

n00bMeiSter

01-04-2012, 02:54 PM

Who installed your fogs for you?

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 03:01 PM

my father, hes been a Chrysler mechanic 20+ years and i'm going to pm you back about the hid's and indy fog thing

Who installed your fogs for you?

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 03:03 PM

So are you going to try what I suggested or are you going to wait for your father?

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 03:15 PM

yea i'm going to go have a look tonight when i get home and if i can't figure it out i'll just leave it for now

So are you going to try what I suggested or are you going to wait for your father?

cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 03:20 PM

yea i'm going to go have a look tonight when i get home and if i can't figure it out i'll just leave it for now

Ok well I will go back to work then lol. Keep me updated.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 03:43 PM

yes do go back to work lol. i'm spending to much time on here today lmao

Ok well I will go back to work then lol. Keep me updated.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 08:22 PM

Ok well I will go back to work then lol. Keep me updated.

so i found the fuse and check it out and it wasn't blown and i took your advice and was listening carefully to hear of there was a clicking from the relay when turning the fogs on and there was a clicking a noise so maybe maybe somehow both bulbs just blew or maybe the wiring crap out inside the bumper?
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n00bMeiSter

01-04-2012, 08:35 PM

Hopefully it's just loose connections on the bulbs.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 08:41 PM

Hopefully it's just loose connections on the bulbs.

yea hopefully i just pm'ed nextmod asking about gettting a cheap price on one h11 bulb to test with

n00bMeiSter

01-04-2012, 08:57 PM

yea hopefully i just pm'ed nextmod asking about gettting a cheap price on one h11 bulb to test with

Don't waste your money buying things to test with. Ask around, people are more than willing to lend a hand. I've got lots of bulbs kicking around.

07carbon3

01-04-2012, 08:59 PM

Don't waste your money buying things to test with. Ask around, people are more than willing to lend a hand. I've got lots of bulbs kicking around.

Do you or anyone else happen to have a fog light bulb laying around you don't really need to help me resolve my issue?

Thanks

n00bMeiSter

01-04-2012, 09:50 PM

Do you or anyone else happen to have a fog light bulb laying around you don't really need to help me resolve my issue?

Thanks

Yes.

Aitch

01-04-2012, 10:13 PM

If the fuse is good the next thing to check is the wiring connections. Both bulbs are unlikely to fail at once, especially if the fuse hasn't. Both fogs likely use a common ground wire, that's your next likely problem.

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cwp_sedan

01-04-2012, 11:56 PM

I've had the stock harness corrode and break off before. Like everyone said, next would be checking the wiring.

07carbon3

01-05-2012, 09:52 AM

I've had the stock harness corrode and break off before. Like everyone said, next would be checking the wiring.

That part I have no idea what I'd be looking for.

Aitch

01-05-2012, 10:51 AM

*I'm assuming your wiring is very similar to mine, as these kits probably all originate in the same place*

The fogs use a single ground wire, and usually the only way to hook these up without using extra wire means that it will be close to the driver's side fog. Then there is a separate harness that carries both power and ground over to the passenger fog without connecting to either power or ground (the chassis) in any other place.

The ground wire for me was either black or blue, with a C-shaped terminal on the end to attach to the chassis with a screw/bolt. Follow the wires from the drivers side fog until you find a short wire with that terminal on it. If its not connected to the chassis or some other (-)ve source, that's the problem.

Here on the right:
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cwp_sedan

01-05-2012, 11:08 AM

Here you go. Give them a call.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?280-Lockdown-Security

07carbon3

01-05-2012, 11:38 AM

thanks for the advice i'll pass it along to whomever i i see about fixing it, i'm not really in the mood for attempt to remove my front bumper right now. i've scene my brother do it before for me and he made it look real easy.

*I'm assuming your wiring is very similar to mine, as these kits probably all originate in the same place*

The fogs use a single ground wire, and usually the only way to hook these up without using extra wire means that it will be close to the driver's side fog. Then there is a separate harness that carries both power and ground over to the passenger fog without connecting to either power or ground (the chassis) in any other place.

The ground wire for me was either black or blue, with a C-shaped terminal on the end to attach to the chassis with a screw/bolt. Follow the wires from the drivers side fog until you find a short wire with that terminal on it. If its not connected to the chassis or some other (-)ve source, that's the problem.

Here on the right:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3522/3835478113_0834ee7796.jpg

07carbon3

01-05-2012, 08:28 PM

thanks to advice of cwp_sedan(sorry i don't now your first name), Dave and Steve my fogs are now working so thanks again guys.
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cwp_sedan

01-05-2012, 08:34 PM

What did you do to fix them?

07carbon3

01-05-2012, 08:35 PM

the ground wire was off

cwp_sedan

01-05-2012, 08:37 PM

Well there you go. Glad you fixed it.

07carbon3

01-05-2012, 08:40 PM

yea i am, it was a good learning experience for my self. its funny how cars are my dad and brothers life and between the the 2 of them they can fix anything of them and then there's me who knows next to nothing

Well there you go. Glad you fixed it.