HELP !! grounding kit disaster

[tiago]

So i recently went to go and install my grounding kit at this place called alltech after driving my car home i parked it and went out.
after returning home i got into my car and turned the car on and it started up but with a little bit of a problem as soon as i left my driveway i turned the lights on and then the lights started flickering my power steering was turning on and off and everything was just glitching and then turned off. now my car sits in my garage and wont turn on .

i took off the grounding kit so the electrical came on but when i turn the key i hear the engine crank but no spark. i dont know what to do here !
:(

[Noisy Crow]

If you are lucky it's just a dead battery... when you say the you hear the engine crank, is it turning over or trying to? If it turning over but the car isn't starting then check over all of the wiring, make sure nothing is disconnected.

Hate to say it, but if you had things "flickering" and "glitching" you likely fried something.

[tiago]

ye imma take it to the mechanic to see.

[TheMAN]

is this a self made grounding kit or you actually bought a premade/brand name one?
if the shop didn't follow install instructions, they could screw it all up... do you have the instructions if it's a brand name kit? You should have your mechanic follow up on it using the instructions

[tiago]

Yeah its a NRG grounding kit and im going to have to call a tow truck to take it back there garage.

[theo575]

well thats bloody scary! sorry to hear it.. I have some 0 gauge wiring and was planning on installing my own grounding kit... maybe I'll pass on that for now

good luck man - they should guarantee their work no?

[Cab0oze]

how the fnck do you screw up a grounding kit install? Did they hook it up to the +ve batt terminal or something? lol


well thats bloody scary! sorry to hear it.. I have some 0 gauge wiring and was planning on installing my own grounding kit... maybe I'll pass on that for now

good luck man - they should guarantee their work no?
If you're scared of doing a grounding kit install, i recommend you never ever do any kind of work under the hood of your car. It is literally the simplest thing in the world to do. Seriously.

[theo575]

If you're scared of doing a grounding kit install, i recommend you never ever do any kind of work under the hood of your car. It is literally the simplest thing in the world to do. Seriously.

Haha... the story at the top scared the shit outta me and if theres a risk of frying my electronics I'd rather not do it... usually I try to find a good how to guide, then I feel more confident
If you have a guide send the link on over


Sorry for getting off topic

[Default User]

OP - please keep us updated

[tiago]

ye got the car running but got 2 codes now Po123 and P0222

[TheMAN]

those are throttle body codes

I have a good feeling those monkeys at that shop didn't bother reading the instructions and just slapped the grounding kit in

this is why you should try to DIY, especially when there's instructions telling you how to put it in

[tiago]

to be fair there were no instructions with the package but now all i can do is hope and wait

[Default User]

those are throttle body codes

I have a good feeling those monkeys at that shop didn't bother reading the instructions and just slapped the grounding kit in

this is why you should try to DIY, especially when there's instructions telling you how to put it in

Altech is a reputable shop, and definitely no stranger to performance products (big and small)

I'm surprised to hear that this happened there (this is the shop @ Weson and Rogers, no?)

[TheMAN]

so apparently this NRG "kit" is just a bundle of wires and loose connectors in a fancy box... no instructions and not even any precut length wires for you to attach them to specific points under the hood

so much for a "kit".... I can see what altech screwed things up now

this is probably what you should've got instead:
http://www.flex-innovations.com/big_3_kit.htm
http://www.flex-innovations.com/mz3_instruct.htm

instructions on that page... hope it helps

[theo575]

ill be using those instructions 100%, thanks hope things are better with tiago!

[Default User]

HAHHAHAHAAAA



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[tiago]

ye so they had to replace my starter , i aint going to be grounding my car till the summer now , prob going to get the big 3 kit . and deff not going back to alltech that place just sucked ass .

[peterm15]

Good to hear it wasn't huge.

That is why i do all work I can myself.

[-RJ3-]

Battery? I had to charge my battery not realizing my inside light was on

[McGuyver_3]

But how could a grounding kit cause your starter to goafter you said they ot the car running? The starter is grounded on the block itself and is supplied only power from the battery.
Also the troible codes you got dont make any sense either in regards to ground wiring unless they unplugged and left the TB unplugged

[theo575]

should there be an inline amp connected to the TB wire? if so does anyone know the right fuse to get if you do need one?

[Cab0oze]

You don't need a fuse for a ground, unless there is a possibility of it accidentally touching a power wire somewhere... which isn't really a possibility.

[Default User]

Are you sure this is the same Altech Performance (Rogers Rd and Weston)??

I'm thinking it's coincidence that this all happened to you, and had nothing to do with the grounding kit.

[peterm15]

Are you sure this is the same Altech Performance (Rogers Rd and Weston)??

I'm thinking it's coincidence that this all happened to you, and had nothing to do with the grounding kit.

:agree

[theo575]

You don't need a fuse for a ground, unless there is a possibility of it accidentally touching a power wire somewhere... which isn't really a possibility.

thanks Cab0oze!

[tiago]

it was the one on weston , when they were installing it i seen sparks starting to fly off my battery and he told me after that he "had to do some modifications to install it "

[Harbour Rat]

That doesn't sound good. Obviously you'll never be able to prove they did anything wrong unless you happened to catch it on cellphone video or something, but it sounds like they shorted something out - there is no other reason to see sparks while installing a grounding kit.

[theo575]

it was the one on weston , when they were installing it i seen sparks starting to fly off my battery and he told me after that he "had to do some modifications to install it "

sketchy :S

[Harbour Rat]

Did you ever get this problem figured out and/or fixed?

[06silver3]

Sounds like a nightmare.

[tiago]

yes i did it was a blown starter i guess it short circuited it oh well .
150 for starter and 60 for the grounding kit install = 210 of useless ness
i now adapted the motto if it aint broke dont fix it meaning no more usless mods for me , the mazda 3 is as good as it can,
Just need to replace the rear shocks , and get new brake pads and rotors anyone know of a good place ?

[Default User]

^ Altech on Weston LOL

[kickz]

they replaced the starter for 150 ? did they give you back the old starter ?
if they replaced it for 150 they probably installed it for free out of good will
was a brand new starter ? used ? or rebulit?
should swing it by another shop to make sure they actually changed the starter

but from your previous post if the power steering was cutting on and off sounds like the grounding kit wasnt tighten properly to battery which would also cause a no start and the TB codes.

[McGuyver_3]

Information is missing on this story because a starter does not just fry itself. After all the starters ground is the engine itself. Something doesnt make sense to me in this situation

[Default User]

Information is missing on this story because a starter does not just fry itself. After all the starters ground is the engine itself. Something doesnt make sense to me in this situation

That's what I was saying.
I know Altech knows their sh*t. So it surprises me that this is the shop the OP took got this install done in the first place

[proDJtege]

I'm new to the car's internals and I'm curious..what does this "big 3" kit do? Are the connecting parts not properly grounded? What does this aftermarket item do as opposed to the stock fittings? Des this have to do with static venting?

[Lockdown]

I'm new to the car's internals and I'm curious..what does this "big 3" kit do? Are the connecting parts not properly grounded? What does this aftermarket item do as opposed to the stock fittings? Des this have to do with static venting?

I'd hit up your favourite search engine and just go to town