reverse light upgrade?

[Bosshammy]

ive seen a couple threads on led and hid lights(reverse) which are the best , brightest and cost effective?

[Default User]

You got 3 options:
HID would be the brightest and most expensive
LED Projectors are a nice alternative
LED bulbs would be the cheapest

[Astig02]

LED Projectors are good enough. Nextmod have new ones - I believe much brighter than the previous ones.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I have LED projectors from SK Performance, costly but bright as hell.

[Cab0oze]

I replaced all my interior lights with LEDs at a meet (some sponsor was selling them on the spot) and a lot of people were getting LEDs for the reverse lights too... as soon as I saw them I was sold, they are very bright and look very classy. Think I paid 40$ to replace every bulb in the car, so they weren't too expensive.

On the other hand, they are not bright enough to really help me when I'm looking out the back of my hatch since the tint is so friggin dark lol

HIDs are overkill (and will risk melting your housing). I seem to remember seeing the projector LEDs and they looked pretty good. Dunno how they compared in price though. Just be careful about not getting the cheapest LEDs without seeing them in action first - Some people got crappier quality ones and now cannot see anything when backing up... the LEDs are for looks only.

[Bosshammy]

I replaced all my interior lights with LEDs at a meet (some sponsor was selling them on the spot) and a lot of people were getting LEDs for the reverse lights too... as soon as I saw them I was sold, they are very bright and look very classy. Think I paid 40$ to replace every bulb in the car, so they weren't too expensive.

On the other hand, they are not bright enough to really help me when I'm looking out the back of my hatch since the tint is so friggin dark lol

HIDs are overkill (and will risk melting your housing). I seem to remember seeing the projector LEDs and they looked pretty good. Dunno how they compared in price though. Just be careful about not getting the cheapest LEDs without seeing them in action first - Some people got crappier quality ones and now cannot see anything when backing up... the LEDs are for looks only.

I checked next mod and they have LED projectors for 31.50$, gunna keep that in mind and maybe do a bigger order when money starts rolling in.

[jshacm]

I have LED projectors for the brakes and fogs and LED for the reverse. The LED reverse seem to be just perfect. your not going to blind anyone but how often are you driving in reverse??? they provide a nice clear look so, for the money go with LED IMO, unless your heart is set on the projectors

[Bosshammy]

I have LED projectors for the brakes and fogs and LED for the reverse. The LED reverse seem to be just perfect. your not going to blind anyone but how often are you driving in reverse??? they provide a nice clear look so, for the money go with LED IMO, unless your heart is set on the projectors

how are the LED fogs? thinking of maybe once again when money starts coming in :bang, gettin the=em for fogs.

[Cab0oze]

how are the LED fogs? thinking of maybe once again when money starts coming in :bang, gettin the=em for fogs.

I'm curious too... how do they compare output-wise to halogens?

[jshacm]

I'm curious too... how do they compare output-wise to halogens?

i finally posted pics on my profile of all the mods i have done up to date... just take a look. i got my LED progectors from lightdepot.ca but i'm pretty sure you can get them anywhere.

i like the look of the fogs and it comes out at 6000k which matches my HIDs low beams

[jshacm]

i also have a pic of the difference between the oem and led reverse lights

[Impressive]

how are the LED fogs? thinking of maybe once again when money starts coming in :bang, gettin the=em for fogs.


I'm curious too... how do they compare output-wise to halogens?

LEDs don't compare to halogens output-wise because halogens actually output light whereas LEDs mainly look pretty. If you want LED fogs then you better be prepared to sacrifice that output source as it might look brighter than halogens but don't let that fool you.

Just an example, When I turn off my lights in the dark to the point that I'm only running my Angel Eyes and turn signal bulbs and no fogs, I can see my turn signal bulbs output 50x more than my AEs.

[Cab0oze]

LEDs don't compare to halogens output-wise because halogens actually output light whereas LEDs mainly look pretty. If you want LED fogs then you better be prepared to sacrifice that output source as it might look brighter than halogens but don't let that fool you.

Just an example, When I turn off my lights in the dark to the point that I'm only running my Angel Eyes and turn signal bulbs and no fogs, I can see my turn signal bulbs output 50x more than my AEs.
Sorry I was specifically referring to the projector LEDs (unless they are equally incomparable)

[provizion]

What type of bulb will fit in the reverse lights? Anyone Know?

Im lookin to get 7 watt LED Bulbs (no HID, no projector) What do I look for?

Thanks :)

[rzapata]

What type of bulb will fit in the reverse lights? Anyone Know?

Im lookin to get 7 watt LED Bulbs (no HID, no projector) What do I look for?

Thanks :)

Here you go.

LINK (http://www.modifiedlife.com/2011-mazda-3-replacement-light-bulb-sizes-guide/)

[silverstarmazda]

you guys are wasting your money... the projector LEDs dont point straight back and points towards the side....i got the bulbs with a bunch of LEDs on them (forgot how much leds per bulb) for about $10 and my reverse lights are usually brighter than everyone elses. i find my leds light up my rear pretty good, a bit better than my halogens for some reason... since i park underground i find them way better than oem....

[n00bMeiSter]

HID reverse lights are your best bet but they are the most expensive. What type of area are you in? I need HID reverse lights for when I'm at a private flying field or my friends farmland so I don't roll into a ditch while reversing and because there's no lights out there.

In the city I just run a set of purple and green LED bulbs because in the city reverse lights aren't needed with all the street lights around.
Projector LEDs IMO aren't worth it for our cars because of the way the housing is designed. They sit at an odd angle. However I've heard the new projector led's are supposed to be better and I think shorter, so they may work better than the old style. But I've not seen the new ones in action.

[silverstarmazda]

HID reverse lights are your best bet but they are the most expensive. What type of area are you in? I need HID reverse lights for when I'm at a private flying field or my friends farmland so I don't roll into a ditch while reversing and because there's no lights out there.

In the city I just run a set of purple and green LED bulbs because in the city reverse lights aren't needed with all the street lights around.
Projector LEDs IMO aren't worth it for our cars because of the way the housing is designed. They sit at an odd angle. However I've heard the new projector led's are supposed to be better and I think shorter, so they may work better than the old style. But I've not seen the new ones in action.

+1
however in a pitch black area, any type of illumination helps. i sometimes drive down pitch black roads and park. the light from my g-shock is enough to light up the road. our housing dont have a very reflective backing. the japanese models have real reflectors in the lens. ill check how many leds my reverse lights have and take pictures.

look what i found!! not related but interesting
106.(5)Exemptions You don’t have to wear a seat belt if: 1) You’re driving in reverse 2) You have a certificate from a doctor saying you can’t wear one for medical reasons 3) You’re so big it’s physically impossible to wear the seat belt 4) You are, at the time, engaged in work where you have to get in a out and don’t exceed 40kph 5) Under Sixteen years old

and dave...im not sure if its wise to run purple and green reverse light... is that legal? im gonna try and look it up. i dont want you getting a ticket

update: i cant find anything black and white about reverse lights but apparently they must be white not blue or some impractical color. plus, its not like your in reverse for any long amount of time anyways...especially in front of a cop.

[leecheefoto]

I have half halogen and the other half HID running reverse lights. They're mad useful, and even more useful when I freaking return my ballast to get them exchanged.
Why I have them:
My gf's driveway to the road barely has street lights
When I reverse, I want people to see me reversing even when theres a car beside me obstructing other's view
I like to blind people at night, at the red light for tailing me for no apparent reason

[n00bMeiSter]

+1
however in a pitch black area, any type of illumination helps. i sometimes drive down pitch black roads and park. the light from my g-shock is enough to light up the road. our housing dont have a very reflective backing. the japanese models have real reflectors in the lens. ill check how many leds my reverse lights have and take pictures.

look what i found!! not related but interesting
106.(5)Exemptions You don’t have to wear a seat belt if: 1) You’re driving in reverse 2) You have a certificate from a doctor saying you can’t wear one for medical reasons 3) You’re so big it’s physically impossible to wear the seat belt 4) You are, at the time, engaged in work where you have to get in a out and don’t exceed 40kph 5) Under Sixteen years old

and dave...im not sure if its wise to run purple and green reverse light... is that legal? im gonna try and look it up. i dont want you getting a ticket

update: i cant find anything black and white about reverse lights but apparently they must be white not blue or some impractical color. plus, its not like your in reverse for any long amount of time anyways...especially in front of a cop.


I try to stay away from police as to avoid any unnecessary bs from them.
That under 16 thing doesn't sound right. As the driver you are technically required to buckle the seat belt of anyone under 16 (this isn't enforced, but if they don't have their seatbelt on, it's on you).

[trulankan]

I try to stay away from police as to avoid any unnecessary bs from them.
That under 16 thing doesn't sound right. As the driver you are technically required to buckle the seat belt of anyone under 16 (this isn't enforced, but if they don't have their seatbelt on, it's on you).

+1 you will get a ticket if they are not buckeled up and under 16. If they are over 16 and have a license I think they will get ticketed.

[trulankan]

so would it be better to just the the regular LED over the projecter lights? any pics? I wanna get em soon but everyones been saying projector is better, not sure what to believe :S

[Noisy Crow]

so would it be better to just the the regular LED over the projecter lights? any pics? I wanna get em soon but everyones been saying projector is better, not sure what to believe :S

You have a gen1 sedan? Projector LEDs won't do much except look sorta cool. They don't light up with the lens in the backup light, so all of the light is thrown out in a a big arc to either side. Since the light is so spread out it is really isn't very effective in helping with visibility.

15W HID is the way to go.... does take a couple of seconds to fire up, but beats backing up blind.

[n00bMeiSter]

You have a gen1 sedan? Projector LEDs won't do much except look sorta cool. They don't light up with the lens in the backup light, so all of the light is thrown out in a a big arc to either side. Since the light is so spread out it is really isn't very effective in helping with visibility.

15W HID is the way to go.... does take a couple of seconds to fire up, but beats backing up blind.

This.

[-RJ3-]

I have LED projectors from SK Performance, costly but bright as hell.

Same. Here!

[silverstarmazda]

I try to stay away from police as to avoid any unnecessary bs from them.
That under 16 thing doesn't sound right. As the driver you are technically required to buckle the seat belt of anyone under 16 (this isn't enforced, but if they don't have their seatbelt on, it's on you).

lol i copied and pasted it from the gov site... i think they need to update theyre site or something. that or i copied and pasted it from some other government.


so would it be better to just the the regular LED over the projecter lights? any pics? I wanna get em soon but everyones been saying projector is better, not sure what to believe :S

i tried the projector LEDs and installed them in the parking lot.... returned them right away because they dont do shit but point outward. and they dont even light up well because theyre pointing outward. like i said, i have the leds, ill try to get a picture + led per bulb count.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

This is admittedly a shit photo but I am running a prototype new SK bulb on the left it illuminates the housing more

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/250906_10150976198598758_89131774_n.jpg

I can do a comparison with a decent cam if enough interest.

[silverstarmazda]

This is admittedly a shit photo but I am running a prototype new SK bulb on the left it illuminates the housing more

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/250906_10150976198598758_89131774_n.jpg

I can do a comparison with a decent cam if enough interest.

woah woah woah.....those are projectors? not sure if the camera is picking up the intense light in the dark back ground but that looks a lot brighter than the projectors i tried.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Projectors ya they are from http://www.facebook.com/SKleds

[trulankan]

Projectors ya they are from http://www.facebook.com/SKleds

wow those are nice...the projectors i got from NextMod are not good at all cause of our stupid housing. hope I can exchange them for regular LEDs :S

[silverstarmazda]

i think the LEDs they use is larger....that would explain the light output.... can i ask what your using on the right?? the light beam doesnt seem to point directly backwards, which is what i experienced when i got the projector bulbs. the left bulb points straight back, which is what i have now but running the multi led bulbs... not as bright though lol

[Dave_The_BMXER]

He explained to me the difference but I can't remember, I will see if I can get him in here to explain.

[SKperformance]

Thanks for the nod of approval Dave and yes at $120 my 9.5w reverse lights are expensive.
They are designed for people in rural areas who need to see a ditch as well as tow trucks and other work related vehicles.
The bulb Dave has was my 2nd gen protoype and am now working on my 20 watt 3 Rd gen one. The one next mod sells is based off my original design with a single 5 watt cree with dual glass projectors or a diffuser like a flys eye from 3 years ago.
This last design being shown fires light straight back but also is surrounded by only 3 high powered bulbs to fill the housing and throw light on the ground unlike all other previous designs on the market.
I'll post a better pic on my page www.facebook.com/skleds with the same bulb on the left also in a Lexus IS300 showing the light output on the ground not just pointed at the light.
If anyone would like to see the difference installed , you can try them for free in Mississauaga as pictures do them no justice.

[silverstarmazda]

120... that is nuts..... but i guess its better to pay for bulbs than a bumper lol. do the led's heat up as much or do they still run cool? i guess it doesnt matter cause the led's will never get near the temps as oem bulbs lol

[silverstarmazda]

from car
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1678/img1789be.jpg
to car
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8383/img1788az.jpg
68 LEDs
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2996/img1783x.jpg

this costed me about 20 bucks? i had a discount at the time...ill try and get a night time picture outside

[07carbon3]

from car
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1678/img1789be.jpg
to car
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8383/img1788az.jpg
68 LEDs
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2996/img1783x.jpg

this costed me about 20 bucks? i had a discount at the time...ill try and get a night time picture outside

was that an ebay buy or from a store in gta?

[leecheefoto]

from car
[IMG]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1678/img1789be.jpg[/IMG
to car
[IMG]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8383/img1788az.jpg[/IMG
68 LEDs
[IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2996/img1783x.jpg[/IMG

this costed me about 20 bucks? i had a discount at the time...ill try and get a night time picture outside

It's not about the quantity of the bulbs inside a bulb, it's how much watts / lumens coming out per bulb, and the quality of the resistors. All I know is for $120 for leds, they're pricey but if you ever have problems sk performance can always help you out.

The picture you posted doesn't look too bright, or maybe I'm used to my hid reverse. http://img.tapatalk.com/63eb490c-c01f-9e8e.jpg

As you can see, this is during bright daytime, the brightness of the bulbs are as white as the sky in the picture.

It's not always about night time, during the day time you want people to see your reverse lights. During the day time when I wear sunglasses, LED reverse looks like a little sparkle.

[silverstarmazda]

was that an ebay buy or from a store in gta?

i bought these at pacific mall LOL the unit is called auto sports. i got a discount cuz i use to work for him an bit. if you cant find any there then theres another store down the other aisle called station 28

[trulankan]

was that an ebay buy or from a store in gta?

thats looks pretty bright, much better than the projectors for sure lol i think HIDs would be overkill

[n00bMeiSter]

thats looks pretty bright, much better than the projectors for sure lol i think HIDs would be overkill

Not if you've ever had to back up on a farm road, country road, or any road outside of the city. HID reverse lights are a friggin' godsend.

[silverstarmazda]

Not if you've ever had to back up on a farm road, country road, or any road outside of the city. HID reverse lights are a friggin' godsend.

lol wish i had a set myself... i dont know how i keep ending up in pitch black roads..... but yea, not everyone wants to spend that much on something you use a couple seconds every time your in gear. i wouls love to have hids for reverse.... though its out of my budget and it really isnt on my list anytime soon

[n00bMeiSter]

lol wish i had a set myself... i dont know how i keep ending up in pitch black roads..... but yea, not everyone wants to spend that much on something you use a couple seconds every time your in gear. i wouls love to have hids for reverse.... though its out of my budget and it really isnt on my list anytime soon

Not worth it for the time you spend in reverse? You're telling me a mere $60 isn't worth it to prevent you from smashing into a tree or rolling backwards into a ditch?

[silverstarmazda]

Not worth it for the time you spend in reverse? You're telling me a mere $60 isn't worth it to prevent you from smashing into a tree or rolling backwards into a ditch?

the lights i have now will light those up, i dont need to be spending more to make sunshine out the back of my ass thank you. if you cant see crap behind you even with some light, then maybe you shouldnt be driving at all. even in pitch black areas, the light from leds/hologen bulbs is enough to light up anything behind you that you might run itno. i can light a match and throw it behind me and itll still be enough light. if anything, the bulbs work better in pitch black situations because there isnt any other light output in the area to distract your focus. plus, im not reversing at 60 kmph which is why i dont need it BUT it would be nice to have it

[n00bMeiSter]

the lights i have now will light those up, i dont need to be spending more to make sunshine out the back of my ass thank you. if you cant see crap behind you even with some light, then maybe you shouldnt be driving at all. even in pitch black areas, the light from leds/hologen bulbs is enough to light up anything behind you that you might run itno. i can light a match and throw it behind me and itll still be enough light. if anything, the bulbs work better in pitch black situations because there isnt any other light output in the area to distract your focus. plus, im not reversing at 60 kmph which is why i dont need it BUT it would be nice to have it

Lmao, don't you dare sit there and tell me I shouldn't be driving, you are not one to be saying anything like that, and you know exactly why.

My tints are dark, and late at night it's dark as **** out there, I've used LED's and I've used the projector LED's they both suck. The stock halogens put out more light than those shitty LED products. The HID reverse lights are the only thing that actually make it super easy to see things.

Stop trying to turn every one of my posts into a personal attack on you. You're not that special.

[trulankan]

Lmao, don't you dare sit there and tell me I shouldn't be driving, you are not one to be saying anything like that, and you know exactly why.

My tints are dark, and late at night it's dark as **** out there, I've used LED's and I've used the projector LED's they both suck. The stock halogens put out more light than those shitty LED products. The HID reverse lights are the only thing that actually make it super easy to see things.

Stop trying to turn every one of my posts into a personal attack on you. You're not that special.

i know the feeling...my cousins house in pickering is pitch black outside and combined with my dark tint + no street light I cant see shit with my halogens lol its the only time i felt unsafe backing up even with a camera

[Noisy Crow]

the lights i have now will light those up, i dont need to be spending more to make sunshine out the back of my ass thank you. if you cant see crap behind you even with some light, then maybe you shouldnt be driving at all. even in pitch black areas, the light from leds/hologen bulbs is enough to light up anything behind you that you might run itno. i can light a match and throw it behind me and itll still be enough light. if anything, the bulbs work better in pitch black situations because there isnt any other light output in the area to distract your focus. plus, im not reversing at 60 kmph which is why i dont need it BUT it would be nice to have it

Don't be an ass. Yay for you in that you have 20 year old eyes that still work well with not much light. Come back in 20 years and you'll find that you'll be talking a different story when you find that you can't see as well in dim light.



My tints are dark, and late at night it's dark as **** out there, I've used LED's and I've used the projector LED's they both suck. The stock halogens put out more light than those shitty LED products. The HID reverse lights are the only thing that actually make it super easy to see things.

+100


My driveway is a black hole at night, and I have dark tint on the back window, so having HIDs in the reverse lights really helps.

[silverstarmazda]

Lmao, don't you dare sit there and tell me I shouldn't be driving, you are not one to be saying anything like that, and you know exactly why.

My tints are dark, and late at night it's dark as **** out there, I've used LED's and I've used the projector LED's they both suck. The stock halogens put out more light than those shitty LED products. The HID reverse lights are the only thing that actually make it super easy to see things.

Stop trying to turn every one of my posts into a personal attack on you. You're not that special.

i never said i was special, however your posts are attacks on me. to me anyways. your saying that hid is the only way to go. and not everyone wants to spend that much. leave your comments and reviews on the product and leave it. post pictures or more. dont tell me im wrong for what i have and what i use. i use what i have, leave my comments, reviews and pictures. and that incident would never of happened and YOU know exactly what im talking about.



Don't be an ass. Yay for you in that you have 20 year old eyes that still work well with not much light. Come back in 20 years and you'll find that you'll be talking a different story when you find that you can't see as well in dim light.

im not trying to be an ass and im sorry of thats what i sounded like that.yes, i havnt taken into consideration of everyones vision. but im speaking from me, as a person, who uses the light I have that I use at at different situations.

[n00bMeiSter]

i never said i was special, however your posts are attacks on me. to me anyways. your saying that hid is the only way to go. and not everyone wants to spend that much. leave your comments and reviews on the product and leave it. post pictures or more. dont tell me im wrong for what i have and what i use. i use what i have, leave my comments, reviews and pictures. and that incident would never of happened and YOU know exactly what im talking about.


lmao, if that's how you view people asking questions or stating things and opinions that are different from the way you think, you're going to have a very hard time on the boards, and in life. I never said it was the only way to go, you need to learn to read posts better. Don't sit there and tell me how to post. And I never said you were wrong, so again, you haven't bothered to read the f*cking post. I actually don't know what you're talking about and I don't give a flying f*ck anymore.


/end of discussion.


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[n00bMeiSter]

This is admittedly a shit photo but I am running a prototype new SK bulb on the left it illuminates the housing more


<image removed for space by noob>


I can do a comparison with a decent cam if enough interest.




Dave, if you could that would be a great help for people. I'd like to see how far SK has come with their new product.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

K, after IF I will have way more time for things.

[SKperformance]

IF you think my 9.5watt $120 lights are expensive you should see my new 20watt $250 a pair ones still in prototype stages though . LMAO

[trulankan]

IF you think my 9.5watt $120 lights are expensive you should see my new 20watt $250 a pair ones still in prototype stages though . LMAO

i dont understand how a bulb (especially an LED) can cost $250...is this something one of a kind? made with some rare metal? For $250 I can get myself an entire LED tailight housing!

[RedRaptor]

IF you think my 9.5watt $120 lights are expensive you should see my new 20watt $250 a pair ones still in prototype stages though . LMAO

I'm sure your product is top notch. I've always been a believer in "you get what you pay for" and I tend to stay away from cheap-low quality products.

But can you explain to us how your lights are so expensive? I'm currently on stock halogen bulbs (8 years) and I cannot see shit when I'm reversing out of my backlot at the cottage.

[silverstarmazda]

lmao, if that's how you view people asking questions or stating things and opinions that are different from the way you think, you're going to have a very hard time on the boards, and in life. I never said it was the only way to go, you need to learn to read posts better. Don't sit there and tell me how to post. And I never said you were wrong, so again, you haven't bothered to read the f*cking post. I actually don't know what you're talking about and I don't give a flying f*ck anymore.


/end of discussion.


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YOU are absolutely right, it was immature of me to be arguing over the internet. everyone has theyre opinions, and views. it is pointless to keep arguing over things that dont matter that much. you have your views, i have mine. doesnt matter if your going to agree or not. also heard of what happened to you and that power button. so i guess you werent in the best mood either. dont tell me im going to have a hard time in life. you dont know me and i dont know you. i dont wish to know you. i have met people and have made a lot of friends on this community. i use to have this idea of what you were like and you proved me wrong, then you proved me right. it takes two to argue, and im gonna be the bigger man and say your right. there is nothing to argue about anymore with you. i apologize for any offenses you have taken from what i have said. after all, you dont give a ****. dont ask whyim saying all this, i normally dont. lets just say i had a very good night lol

topic note: thread says upgrade. hid is as far of an upgrade you can do without adding aux lights. if you got the money and you want upgraded your reverse light. just do it

[n00bMeiSter]

lmao, Sam, you're the only person getting offended here.
What power button? Wtf are you going on about?

[ziegs2020]

$120 for led lights?

Ouch... here they are on ebay for cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-T20-7440-High-Power-20W-LED-CREE-R4-Back-Up-Backup-Reverse-Light-Bulb-Lamp-/300770374669?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46074fb40d&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-1156-Ba15s-CREE-R4-High-Power-20W-White-Auto-Car-LED-Reverse-Light-Lamp-/290767008192?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b31071c0

And I'm guessing these are the $250 leds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-New-T20-7443-CREE-T6-High-Power-10W-LED-Back-Up-Reverse-Lights-Super-White-/290757587602?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b280b292
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-1156-High-Power-Cree-T6-10W-Side-Marker-Turn-Rear-Light-Super-White-/290757587583?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b280b27f

Or maybe;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-S25-1156-Ba15S-P21W-5-cree-q5-chips-reverse-turn-signal-light-led-car-bulbs-/150878636831?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2321114b1f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-T20-7443-7440-7441-7444-992-992A-5-cree-q5-high-power-led-car-bulbs-white-/150888975567?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2321af0ccf

[silverstarmazda]

lmao, Sam, you're the only person getting offended here.
What power button? Wtf are you going on about?

yea thats how i feel


$120 for led lights?

Ouch... here they are on ebay for cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-T20-7440-High-Power-20W-LED-CREE-R4-Back-Up-Backup-Reverse-Light-Bulb-Lamp-/300770374669?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46074fb40d&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-1156-Ba15s-CREE-R4-High-Power-20W-White-Auto-Car-LED-Reverse-Light-Lamp-/290767008192?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b31071c0

And I'm guessing these are the $250 leds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-New-T20-7443-CREE-T6-High-Power-10W-LED-Back-Up-Reverse-Lights-Super-White-/290757587602?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b280b292
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-1156-High-Power-Cree-T6-10W-Side-Marker-Turn-Rear-Light-Super-White-/290757587583?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b280b27f

Or maybe;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-S25-1156-Ba15S-P21W-5-cree-q5-chips-reverse-turn-signal-light-led-car-bulbs-/150878636831?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2321114b1f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-T20-7443-7440-7441-7444-992-992A-5-cree-q5-high-power-led-car-bulbs-white-/150888975567?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2321af0ccf

i know for a fact the cree led's are bright as hell. not sure if those are legit cree led's though

[n00bMeiSter]

yea thats how i feel



i know for a fact the cree led's are bright as hell. not sure if those are legit dree led's though


I'm sorry you feel that way, I've got nothing against you.

Cree's are usually the best, they cost more, but they're better quality.

Zeigs, there's no telling how well those eBay ones will work in our cars. Our reverse bulbs go in at a bit of an odd angle, and the reflective housing doesn't play well with LED's it seems.
Also, as Sam has mentioned, there's no telling if those are actually legit Cree LED's or not, it is eBay after all.

[leecheefoto]

Yeah I would get Cree but the bulb points sideways lol

[silverstarmazda]

see because the cree led is under that lens... it makes them look bigger than they really are... i would rather buy a big ass cree led from DX and solder
them into a bulb fitting. maybe a directional lens to get some light facing the rear

[ziegs2020]

They are legit cree leds. I haven't seen any fake cree leds yet, since the led itself is very tiny. The cree XP leds are only 3mm by 3mm in size.

I've tried 7440 cree bulbs with the projector lens in my 2006 housings, and the output is not that great. Incandescent bulbs are the best solution, with leds providing auxiliary lighting.

http://i.imgur.com/qqdzc.jpg

[Dave_The_BMXER]

SK's bulbs look like this.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/616242_374666422616599_762800678_o.jpg

If I recall his are typically not off the shelf versions but ones he custom orders.

[silverstarmazda]

SK's bulbs look like this.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/616242_374666422616599_762800678_o.jpg

If I recall his are typically not off the shelf versions but ones he custom orders.

ive seen the ones on the top right, with the loong leds panel. anyone know if those are good?

[trulankan]

if only there was a way to change the housing some how to make it point straight then the projectors would be fine

[trulankan]

ive seen the ones on the top right, with the loong leds panel. anyone know if those are good?

the ones in the bottom right corner are the type i usually see

[silverstarmazda]

if only there was a way to change the housing some how to make it point straight then the projectors would be fine

custom fab a bowl reflector with a center bulb mount. somewhat like opening up a headlight i assume...

[Noisy Crow]

Could always try the V-LED reverse-light licence plate frame.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psq-x6qVgFU

[silverstarmazda]

Could always try the V-LED reverse-light licence plate frame.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psq-x6qVgFU

LOL i thought that was his plate lights.... i was like wats the point of that?! thats pretty damn bright though for 6 leds

[Wes08M3]

I can vouch for v-led stuff. Very high quality, I've bought many of their products. Years later and everything is still working great!

[trulankan]

Could always try the V-LED reverse-light licence plate frame.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psq-x6qVgFU

wow thats as bright as those HID reverse lights...it would prob make my backup cam useless tho lol

[silverstarmazda]

just in case anyone is wondering how they look like

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1277/16164147.jpg

[Booter22]

been watching this thread for a while and just trying to find the point to have really really bright reverse lights. like where are you backing up that you need the brightness of the sun to see behind you. and i cant imagine anyone would be reversing for any long period of time, so how the oem or even projector led bulbs are not bright enough that the car needs so much more. just thought i would ask as i cant see the reason for it as i couldnt think anyone spends large ammounts of time in reverse in the dark.

[trulankan]

been watching this thread for a while and just trying to find the point to have really really bright reverse lights. like where are you backing up that you need the brightness of the sun to see behind you. and i cant imagine anyone would be reversing for any long period of time, so how the oem or even projector led bulbs are not bright enough that the car needs so much more. just thought i would ask as i cant see the reason for it as i couldnt think anyone spends large ammounts of time in reverse in the dark.

well like some ppl have mentioned b4, its meant for people that have tinted windows, mine are 15% in the rear so it makes it hard to see if theres is poor street lighting or none at all. Its obvious we dont spend alot of time backing up but brighter lights are a godsend for those times when its needed. I almost backed up into another parked car one time due to poor street lighting. I dont wanna run into a situation like that again even though it happens rarely. Main thing is its there if u need it.

[trulankan]

I wonder if theres a way to get those v-LEDs run on a switch so u can just turn it on when needed. that would be perfect.

[trulankan]

just in case anyone is wondering how they look like

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1277/16164147.jpg

according to the website theres issues with longevity as the housing turns yellow after awhile lol

[Booter22]

i have 20% tinted windows all around and i dont find it that bad. if i cant see then i just roll the drivers window down and look in the mirror. wouldnt waste time going for wicked bright lights but to each there own.

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I actually just prefer the color of LEDs over halogens. The brightness was a bonus.

Yes I am aware I never see them myself.

[silverstarmazda]

I wonder if theres a way to get those v-LEDs run on a switch so u can just turn it on when needed. that would be perfect.

you can always hook up an led strip to a constant power 12v source and add a switch in.


according to the website theres issues with longevity as the housing turns yellow after awhile lol

maybe an led strip stuck onto the tm3 plate cover lol

[trulankan]

i wonder if these would add some extra kick to the normal projectors:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2-pcs-HID-White-7440-7W-Cree-12-SMD-High-Power-Projector-Reverse-LED-Light-Bulbs-/170896599769?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ca3b2ad9

[silverstarmazda]

i wonder if these would add some extra kick to the normal projectors:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2-pcs-HID-White-7440-7W-Cree-12-SMD-High-Power-Projector-Reverse-LED-Light-Bulbs-/170896599769?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ca3b2ad9

i would say the most light would be comming from the projectors on that one. the leds on the side wont do much. so with the side leds taking up about half the bulb, i wouldnt think theyll be the best

[ziegs2020]

I would not suggest using cree bulbs for the reverse lights. Our reverse light housing (on the first gen mazda3), just can't utilize the light properly.


These bulbs of SK are generic cree bulbs found on ebay. Yes there are varying qualities of said cree bulbs, but I assure you, $120 is a load of crap. Whoever bought these, you got ripped off big time.

You can find these bulbs on aliexpress, alibaba, or taobao for $50 a pair or less. Even then, $50 is usually the retail price. Buying wholesale is a lot cheaper.


SK's bulbs look like this.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/616242_374666422616599_762800678_o.jpg

If I recall his are typically not off the shelf versions but ones he custom orders.

[-RJ3-]

Can you provide links of the similarities of sk bulbs vs the sites you mentioned?

Or maybe photos?

[ziegs2020]

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/538022746/7_5w_T20_7440_7443_5.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/582070881/CREE_20W_T20_Turn_light_Car.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/623309439/25W_Cree_Q5_auto_lamp_T20.html

Keep in mind Alibaba is usually for wholesale only.

[leecheefoto]

I'm down for a GB of the 25W 7440 :)

[-RJ3-]

Okay so lets say he is doing this through wholesale he isn't doing anything wrong Its like those phone cases for 2 dollars from deal extreme and selling them for 30.00 at pacific mall!

And even if you can buy the bulbs you can't just buy a set you'd have to buy it wholesale quantities.

[trulankan]

I'm down for a GB of the 25W 7440 :)

+1

[ziegs2020]

Okay so lets say he is doing this through wholesale he isn't doing anything wrong Its like those phone cases for 2 dollars from deal extreme and selling them for 30.00 at pacific mall!

And even if you can buy the bulbs you can't just buy a set you'd have to buy it wholesale quantities.

No he's not doing any wrong. Business is business, and marking up the price is nothing new. But even at the lowest possible discount for wholesale, say $20 for 2 pieces, 600% markup is ... really something.

I don't like people being taken advantage of because they are not familiar with whatever market they are purchasing from.

Then they're marketing the product as being exclusively designed, when it's not. Custom ordered colors for the bulbs are plausible, I will give them that. I am referring to this glowing review; http://www.stanceiseverything.com/2011/11/product-review-skperformance-lighting/



The projection reverse lights (which are exclusively designed by SK Performance) are really the crown jewel of the entire set-up though, they project a good 20 – 30 feet behind my car and are to the point where it is like having a set of HID headlights installed in my tail lamps.



Product quality aside one of the main selling points of SK Performance is customer service, with SK Performance you are not dealing with a middle man who simply resells products available on Ebay. You are dealing with a long time GTA scene veteran who took the time to head to Vegas and meet with suppliers first hand at the AAPEX show to ensure that all of his kits are made to last.



If you want brighter reverse lights, buy a hid kit, or install an auxiliary reverse light.

Suggestions;

Utilize the lower license plate bolt holes and mount these;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x3W-LED-Ultra-Thin-Larger-Lens-Daytime-Eagle-Eye-Reverse-Light-White-N98B-/140856133870?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20cbae08ee

Stick this next to the license plate;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-Pair-12LED-12W-High-power-Eagle-Eye-Daytime-Running-Lights-DRL-/150835830613?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true

Flush mount these into the bumper;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Round-Mini-2-LED-Work-Light-MWL-10-Grommet-Mount-RV-/370539741032?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Acc essories&hash=item5645e3bf68

Place it into the area above the license plate;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180792254575

[silverstarmazda]

so i was curious about the oem housing and decided to open up a faulty one i had just to see what the inside looks like. and i didnt expect this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/6848/img0027wz.jpg
the lens of the reverse light is actually slightly tinted....
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/5046/img0026vru.jpg
but the reflector is great, chrome plated plastic. some here said that the mazad 3 we get here are not reflective. dont remember who but it was a while ago.

nothing dramatic but i though i would share the find. another thing is, i pretty much had to destroy the seal between the clear plastic and the housing. i didnt have an oven to bake it in but it seemed like its not the usual adhesive you would find in the headlights. which makes the lens removal very hard or impossible..

[leecheefoto]

so i was curious about the oem housing and decided to open up a faulty one i had just to see what the inside looks like. and i didnt expect this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/6848/img0027wz.jpg
the lens of the reverse light is actually slightly tinted....
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/5046/img0026vru.jpg
but the reflector is great, chrome plated plastic. some here said that the mazad 3 we get here are not reflective. dont remember who but it was a while ago.

nothing dramatic but i though i would share the find. another thing is, i pretty much had to destroy the seal between the clear plastic and the housing. i didnt have an oven to bake it in but it seemed like its not the usual adhesive you would find in the headlights. which makes the lens removal very hard or impossible..




doooooooooood you should get another reverse housing and mod it to fit H11 bulbs with relays. That way you can get different colour temperatures of the bulbs!
Now you can drive backwards in style!