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Stretch
08-28-2012, 08:22 PM
I just took mine off again today to do something and one of the bolts twisted off a bit of plastic. I was curious who runs without one, and if doing so will cause any adverse cooling effects.

eric

Ozil
08-28-2012, 08:37 PM
water might go into your intake/filter if it rains? maybe? i dont know!

schmat66
08-28-2012, 09:14 PM
ive never had mine, becauseracecar

peterm15
08-28-2012, 09:18 PM
ive never had mine, becauseracecar

+1 - racecar.

rzapata
08-28-2012, 09:19 PM
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peterm15
08-28-2012, 09:30 PM
I assumed he was talking about the splash guard. Then I realized its in the speed forum. Do speeds have a splash guard.

loki
08-28-2012, 09:38 PM
You talking about the TMIC shroud? The shroud helps form a seal between the air vent under the hood and the intercooler so that air flows directly to the IC. Should be alright without it though, I would think.. CP-E TMIC doesn't have one, just as a reference. :)

Wtf are you talking about?

rzapata
08-28-2012, 09:41 PM
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zzz3
08-28-2012, 09:45 PM
ive never had mine, becausepretendracecar


+1 - pretendracecar.

FTFY. Undertray equals better aerodynamics - real racecar.

The Wolf
08-28-2012, 10:09 PM
ive never had mine, becauseracecar

Don't lie, you lost your engine cover trying to drive over a sheet of paper

peterm15
08-28-2012, 10:16 PM
FTFY. Undertray equals better aerodynamics - real racecar.

That's why I said - ( minus ) racecar.

Turok
08-28-2012, 10:39 PM
You talking about the TMIC shroud? The shroud helps form a seal between the air vent under the hood and the intercooler so that air flows directly to the IC. Should be alright without it though, I would think.. CP-E TMIC doesn't have one, just as a reference. :)

I think they're talking about the undercover which is under the engine, under the car :) And the CP-E TMIC has a aluminium shroud.

rzapata
08-28-2012, 10:40 PM
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Turok
08-28-2012, 10:41 PM
Ha, well, that'd make more sense.. Comprehension fail on my part.. OP says "engine cover" I assume it's the one on top. :chuckle

Should have said "Undertray cover" or something...

My bad. :chuckle

Lol but the topic also says undercover :D

rzapata
08-28-2012, 10:50 PM
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-RJ3-
08-28-2012, 10:51 PM
burberry wrapped engine cover its only on during shows never driving with it on

Wes08M3
08-28-2012, 11:07 PM
Keep in mind that it protects your aluminum oil pan. They crack fairly easily.

Just sayin...

zzz3
08-28-2012, 11:26 PM
Keep in mind that it protects your aluminum oil pan. They crack fairly easily.

Just sayin...

DGAF. If you don't crack your oil pan, your not low enough.

-RJ3-
08-28-2012, 11:30 PM
oops didnt read it saying undercover lol... i thought you meant engine cover.

Stretch
08-28-2012, 11:42 PM
Good replies guys, good banter too! Yes, by undercover I meant the under cover not the engine cover on the IC. I suppose it could also be called the oil pan cover, or tray, or just under cover as I prefer :)

I decided to put it back on for now, even though it is not held on by one of the bolts, and is missing both plastic plugs.

Thanks guys,
eric

The Wolf
08-28-2012, 11:44 PM
Good replies guys, good banter too! Yes, by undercover I meant the under cover not the engine cover on the IC. I suppose it could also be called the oil pan cover, or tray, or just under cover as I prefer :)

I decided to put it back on for now, even though it is not held on by one of the bolts, and is missing both plastic plugs.

Thanks guys,
eric
Mine has zero bolts holding it in.

silverstarmazda
08-28-2012, 11:47 PM
i guess it lets the air flow better under, and keeps stuff from flying up and hitting everything underneath. air turbulence might cause water to find its way into the intake. and a wet intake sucks

schmat66
08-28-2012, 11:53 PM
Keep in mind that it protects your aluminum oil pan. They crack fairly easily.

Just sayin...

or if you hit too many times it just burns a hole threw it

The Wolf
08-28-2012, 11:57 PM
I really don't see how a 1/16" piece of plastic is going to keep an oil pan from cracking. It can't really provide all that much protection from actual impacts.

Wes08M3
08-29-2012, 01:36 AM
DGAF. If you don't crack your oil pan, your not low enough.

LOL


or if you hit too many times it just burns a hole threw it

You burnt a hole through the skid plate? Your car is too low lol.


I really don't see how a 1/16" piece of plastic is going to keep an oil pan from cracking. It can't really provide all that much protection from actual impacts.

Plastic is more ductile than cast aluminum. So if a rock were to impact the plastic, it's more likely to deform (either plastic or elastic deformation) and less likely to fracture. Whereas the aluminum pan is more likely to just fracture.

It's not as if I've tested these two specific pieces but that would be the general idea when looking at a stress/strain curve.

Plus, it would likely slow the velocity of the foreign object down enough to reduce the chance that it would be able to break through the skid plate AND the pan. Unless its something huge, in which case you're screwed no matter what.

I dunno, just my take on it. It's not like you'd be better off without it.

Booostin
08-29-2012, 09:03 AM
Took mine off for weight reduction

silverstarmazda
08-29-2012, 09:33 AM
Took mine off for weight reduction

lol was gonna do that with my spare tire and put in a can of slime. then i ended keeping both lol

schmat66
08-29-2012, 02:37 PM
LOL



You burnt a hole through the skid plate? Your car is too low lol.



Plastic is more ductile than cast aluminum. So if a rock were to impact the plastic, it's more likely to deform (either plastic or elastic deformation) and less likely to fracture. Whereas the aluminum pan is more likely to just fracture.

It's not as if I've tested these two specific pieces but that would be the general idea when looking at a stress/strain curve.

Plus, it would likely slow the velocity of the foreign object down enough to reduce the chance that it would be able to break through the skid plate AND the pan. Unless its something huge, in which case you're screwed no matter what.

I dunno, just my take on it. It's not like you'd be better off without it.

and end up like this
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255596_10151054182787444_1316635276_n.jpg

Wes08M3
08-29-2012, 03:08 PM
and end up like this
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255596_10151054182787444_1316635276_n.jpg

That gen civic had an aluminum pan with no skid plate didn't it?

-ToM-
08-29-2012, 03:16 PM
ive been driving all summer without one ever since the winter road stole mine. Things have been going fine. But i think imma get a undertray as soon as winter comes

schmat66
08-29-2012, 03:28 PM
That gen civic had an aluminum pan with no skid plate didn't it?

it has plastic shit but its torn up from scrapping

low life sucks

zzz3
08-29-2012, 04:01 PM
it has plastic shit but its torn up from scrapping

low life sucks

dammmmn, i was joking around, but i wouldn't wish that on anyone. hope it doesn't cost her too much to fix :S

Wes08M3
08-29-2012, 04:29 PM
it has plastic shit but its torn up from scrapping

low life sucks

Bags :P

Dave_The_BMXER
08-29-2012, 05:36 PM
I've had no cover basically as long as I've had my car.

Put an aluminium one on and broke the mounts.

I need to make better mounts

schmat66
08-29-2012, 09:57 PM
dammmmn, i was joking around, but i wouldn't wish that on anyone. hope it doesn't cost her too much to fix :S

so far tally is at 190, but theres more damage thats drivable

bhadreshl
09-06-2012, 09:22 PM
It's really annoying for doing oil changes. I even bought special clips to hold it and the plastic broke off those.

I've been driving without it for about 40k now and no issues; 2 summers; 2 winters. I didn't even notice a difference in mileage.