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SirWanker
09-28-2012, 05:05 PM
http://youtu.be/wFeC25BM9E0

Not flaming Apple products here, just their legal pragmatism.....

bbbwood
09-28-2012, 05:39 PM
My opinion - they invented nothing new. They are not inventors. They are, however, masters of understanding the customer experience. Their approach: Understand what the customer (remember the Henry Ford quote) wants, put it all in one nice easy package, over-price it, and let it sell itself.

I too, am not flaming Apple, because I believe they make a nice product, but there are equivalent products out there, but the Apple marketing machine is enormous.

terapr0
09-28-2012, 05:49 PM
hahaha love it. I've known this all along, and I only laugh because it's funny how many people dont. Hillarious when people tell me that OSX is more inherently secure than other operating systems, despite the fact that all of its underpinnings were stripped from freeBSD, which I was playing with in grade 7. The only innovation is the front end, which is pretty much a customized version of X.
The only thing Apple has ever been good at is industrial design and marketing.

trulankan
09-28-2012, 05:52 PM
i will give apple the credit for unleashing the smartphone revolution and building both a great product and the ecosystem to support it (app store). I really don't remember anything else that existed before it that caused such a commotion. Sure, there was WebOS, symbian, blackberry but they were mostly for just email and business. the iPhone brought the smartphone to the everyday consumer. That's all I will give them credit for. What they are doing now through their legal power is trying to eliminate competition rather than build something better. The iPhone is not the best thing out there even though it and all the loyal apple crowd think so. Other companies, mainly Google and it's partners, have made much better phones with new features. IMO, you snooze you lose Apple. Stop trying to eliminate the compeition through stupid court battles and actually try to build something new and better.

Lockdown
09-28-2012, 05:53 PM
It's not that Apple's OS is more secure, it is that it is lest targeted and this far less likely to be hit.

terapr0
09-28-2012, 05:58 PM
It's not that Apple's OS is more secure, it is that it is lest targeted and this far less likely to be hit.

precisely.
Their increased market share is changing that, but right now it's the *only* thing keeping apples "secure". That and the fact that nobody significant uses them for anything important.

Cab0oze
09-28-2012, 06:16 PM
Very interesting, thanks!

Impressive
09-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Very interesting video.

I agree entirely (being a Mac/Apple product user) that the legal cases they have filed against Samsung and other manufacturers is outright ridiculous. I have my own reasons for using their products over those of other brands, but at the end of the day, anyone who thinks a MacBook Pro, or an iPhone or whatever is entirely an Apple-created gadget is off their rocker. Heck, even I know that Samsung developed the screen for Apple on my generation MBP (pre-Retina Display) & the laptop itself is run by an INTEL processor.

I think anyone outside of the Apple HQ right now would have a hard time presenting compelling evidence to me in order to have me sympathize with them when they've got double standards such as these taking place.

GSXi
10-05-2012, 01:07 PM
Apple hasn't invented jack! But they pace their hardware releases well and do a great job at keeping things consistent across all it's platform. Android manufactures on the other hand pump out new phones/tablets every other month with different sets of custom software; you constantly feel outdated.

From a developer standpoint, it's much easier to support an iphone/ipad. Developers are building for iOS over Android by a ratio of 2:1. As a consumer you benefit!



Fragmentation is still a beast. Unlike iOS where you might have to deal with the 4S, the 4, the 3G and the 3GS (or maybe a half-dozen models), Android developers generally need to support dozens of devices. Or if you want to go the extra mile, hundreds! http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/07/yep-developers-are-still-building-for-apples-ios-over-android-by-a-factor-of-2-to-1/

Sometimes it's not about the super-hardware sepcs (samsung), it's about the user/developer experience.

babyblue3
10-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Wow, definitely very interesting. I own a Samsung phone and an Ipod Touch, but I think i'll always be particular to Android. Just because I know that there is always going to be something new and different.