Anyone tried UHP All seasons?

[gotak]

A bad alignment job (not doing the cheap alignment again) made 2 of my tires wear badly and now they are making a lot of noise and slight vibration around the 70-80 kph region. All 4 are down toe 5/32 anyhow so at most just another summer with them before I need to buy new tires anyhow.

That would give these tires a life span of about 2.5 to 3 seasons. Which is ok but not great considering my daily commute is about 50 km total, with maybe 4 times a year a longer run on short road trips etc.

Another set of summers would likely last about the same amount of time? So I am wondering if it would make sense for me to get good all seasons with harder wearing treads.

I don't want to give up the grip cause there has been a few times where being able to pin the brakes before ABS even kicks in might have prevented a rear ending accident (and I don't ever tail gate, people in the GTA are GREAT drivers :bang).

At this point my criteria are:

1) Tops out budget at around 800 bucks, I'd prefer lower the better, though without running on a Kazakhstan brand tire.
2) Either a longer wearing summer or a good set of A/S. I have snows so I don't need to think about winter traction
3) Tread wear, good tread wear would be nice 3 to 4 years is minimum if possible.
4) Decent grip: Don't think I'll be tracking much in the future work's super busy and there's a kid on the way! So the majority of pushing these new tires would be dive bombing the 404 to hwy 7 off ramp
5) I'd prefer non-directional tires, just so I can rotate around instead of just front and back. Not sure if there's any real benefits

[SKYMP3]

Wrong section? -> Wheels and Tires

[gotak]

I'd like to find out specific to the speed 3 what some people might have tried.

[midnightfxgt]

So I am wondering if it would make sense for me to get good all seasons with harder wearing treads.... I don't want to give up the grip ...

Good All-Seasons still won't grip like a dedicated summer tire. Some summer tires will last more than others, but the reason they wear out faster, and handle better is due to softer compounds.

-John

[gotak]

Good All-Seasons still won't grip like a dedicated summer tire. Some summer tires will last more than others, but the reason they wear out faster, and handle better is due to softer compounds.

-John

Looked at the numbers in the tests that tire rack does. And it's not actually that far off between lower end summers and high end all seasons. Hence the question. For a DD it seems like it could be a reasonable choice.

[kilo4321]

IIRC, a higher number "UTQG" rating typically means a longer lasting (harder compound). So something with a UTQG around 100-120 would typically be as "sticky" and as soft of a compound you can get (better handling) but they'll wear faster than you'll change your underwear :P

However, a higher UTQG rating is the opposite something for example up there around 600-700 will be an incredibly hard compound and not so "sticky" at all. But your tires should last considerably longer.

The catch is the UTQG rating is done by each individual manufacturer. So tires can be compared easily within their own brand (Bridgestone to Bridgestone, toyo to toyo), however comparing the UTQG between two different manufacturers may be slightly different, as they each run their own tests under -slightly- different conditions and methods.

[dexter]

What size are you looking for?

[gotak]

18s.

In the end I decided to go with the close out Fuzion ZRI from tire rack. Really reasonable price even with shipping etc. Tests looks ok better than the S.drives i am running on right now and for a lot less.

[dexter]

Ok, cool. I may have had a set of near new Nitto Invo's for sale come spring but you're all sorted out. Enjoy the new tires.

[mikey32235]

hey bro, ya i used them for a few months they are pretty dam sick for the price, only problem is they are discontinued. i have a set of 4 for sale with rims. about 85% left

[zzz3]

Look into conti DWS.

[gotak]

Just put the Fuzion ZRI on the car today. Going to drive them for a few days before I swap to my winters. Much much more quiet than the stock Dunlop 2050s or the S.Drives I had. That will change of course as the tires age, the age old problem with summer tires. Handles bumps nicely. Over all the ride quality has improved a lot. I can hear more of the engine now than tire noise which is nice. Took a look at my old tires as they were taking them off, still a lot of tread left. Sad that I had to spend money because of a shit alignment job last winter.

Handling etc will have to wait till I ran these for a while. It's just sad they are closing out these tires I think for the cost they are really a great value. I guess hopefully in 2-3 years times when I am up for another set there will be other good choices out.

[horto]

Why cheap out on tires?

UHPs are garbage btw. Made the mistake of running their Summers on my mustang. Aggressive tread but zero sidewall performance. Like diving on marshmallows!