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MicaBlueGT
02-13-2013, 07:45 PM
Im Blown away, Cant believe my eyes, My 2010 Mazda 3 Hatch already has rust coming through on the Hatch right above the Tail light, small Rust bubble starting to form and has already broken through the paint, WTF??? Cheap crap, Im so upset, I bought the car 3 months ago, it has 38,000kms on it, Im just out right pissed right now, will warranty cover this? this was no chip that started to rust through, like how do you get a chip on the hatch? ill post a pic when I can.

Dissapointed in ottawa.

thirdgen3
02-13-2013, 08:51 PM
ill post a pic when I can.

Yea, pics or it didn't happen.

RedRaptor
02-13-2013, 09:16 PM
I don't understand why this is surprising. Has anyone not noticed how badly rusted the Proteges are on the road.

thanu31
02-13-2013, 10:12 PM
I don't understand why this is surprising. Has anyone not noticed how badly rusted the Proteges are on the road.

you would think after 10 years they get it right

GSXi
02-13-2013, 10:32 PM
Im Blown away, Cant believe my eyes, My 2010 Mazda 3 Hatch already has rust coming through on the Hatch right above the Tail light, small Rust bubble starting to form and has already broken through the paint, WTF??? Cheap crap, Im so upset, I bought the car 3 months ago, it has 38,000kms on it, Im just out right pissed right now, will warranty cover this? this was no chip that started to rust through, like how do you get a chip on the hatch? ill post a pic when I can.

Dissapointed in ottawa.

you did buy it used.... it could have been in an accident and repaired (whoever sold it, didn't tell you). thus causing the rust.

Kiyomi
02-14-2013, 12:08 AM
rustproof every year.

Booter22
02-14-2013, 01:09 AM
perf coverage is 5 year unlimited km. paint is 3 years from defects.

thirdgen3
02-14-2013, 09:58 AM
rustproof every year.

+1

nguy3nha
02-14-2013, 01:58 PM
rustproof does nothing.. mazda's sheet metal rusts beneath the paint

midnightfxgt
02-14-2013, 02:03 PM
rustproof does nothing.. mazda's sheet metal rusts beneath the paint

Informative. Please show me a manufacturer whose sheet metal rusts starting on top of the paint. Le Sigh.

Flagrum_3
02-14-2013, 02:39 PM
you did buy it used.... it could have been in an accident and repaired (whoever sold it, didn't tell you). thus causing the rust.

This!...Is quite possibly the reason for the rust showing where it does. If not, the car is only 2 to 3 years old, and it should still be covered under the Mazda Rust Warranty. If it is concluded it was from an unreported accident, Mazda I don't believe will cover the fix.

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MicaBlueGT
02-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Took with my phone so not the clearest but you can see the rust bubbles. Tight abouve the drivers side tail light.

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8213/2222jv.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/2222jv.jpg/)

MicaBlueGT
02-14-2013, 04:28 PM
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8213/2222jv.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/2222jv.jpg/)

MicaBlueGT
02-14-2013, 05:25 PM
Ive already contacted Mazda Canada in regards left them a very concerned email in regards to a car breaking out in rust at only 3 years of age, this in my opinion is not acceptable, I take extremely good care of my vehicles and have them oil sprayed, washed weekly ect.. Im awaiting a response and will let you guys know what happens, In response to some of your comments I would have had to wash my car in oil to have protected it where its starting to break out, this is not something that oil would have prevented from happening, this is right in the middle of the sheet metal, The car had no history of a collision or body work, one of my friends is a paint tech, and he even said by looking at the lift gate that it was the original paint, no repairs where ever made in his professional opinion. Ive posted a pic but awaiting approval from moderater before it shows?? anyways Im dissapointed to say the least, and really wanted this car to last the long haul, but seeing this makes me feel very uneasy.

Grant

Flagrum_3
02-14-2013, 05:57 PM
Well if your friend gave you a professional opinion that the area has not been damaged/repaired, then that is even more disconcerting. Because that may mean it is a metal/paint issue from the manufacturer....I feel your pain.


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stock3
02-14-2013, 06:25 PM
rustproof does nothing.. mazda's sheet metal rusts beneath the paint

My 7 year old 3 that is rust proofed annually and does not have a spec of rust obviously did not get the memo.:rolleyes

zzz3
02-14-2013, 08:39 PM
My 7 year old 3 that is rust proofed annually and does not have a spec of rust obviously did not get the memo.:rolleyes

i hope you knock on wood after rolling your eyes. your car is an exception to what is a wide spread issue...

Flagrum_3
02-15-2013, 02:02 AM
i hope you knock on wood after rolling your eyes. your car is an exception to what is a wide spread issue...

Although I agree with you that it may be a wide spread issue ( I haven't seen any statistics proving so), also I personally theorize that there must be some metal or paint issue which is causing most of the rust issues. But on the contrary, I wonder about people that can state in a general sense that rustproofing does nothing! I am in the same boat as stock3, my 7.5 year old Mazda has 'zero' rust. Now there are many variables to contemplate here; What rust-proofing was used? How soon after purchase was it first applied?-(Very important). Was it done yearly? Was the car clay barred and waxed immediately after purchase and atleast yearly since? etc, etc; The point is, one cannot generally state that rustproofing does nothing, unless one has taken all the proper precautions and steps.

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Seshan
02-15-2013, 02:35 AM
upload a better picture, something bigger would be nice so we can actually see something.

Cab0oze
02-15-2013, 07:30 AM
Yeah better picture is required before freaking out... to me that looks like rail/brake/industrial dust, which all cars get and is easily resolved. Use some polish on it and see if it goes away. I mean you did say rust BUBBLE, so maybe it is that, but the picture does not make it look like rust.

This is rail dust:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4544029095_54390675c2_o.jpg

mazda72
02-15-2013, 09:35 AM
I think its just one unique case, a better pic would help...could it be a stone chip?
I hope mazda learnt something from the protege rusting fiasco, good engine but the body was rusting way too prematurely.
I hope this is not the case with the new 3, otherwise they will loose many of their loyal customers and it will screw up their reputation.
I trust mazda to make fine driving machines

zakman
02-15-2013, 09:58 AM
don't be to surprised. my 08 started rusting through the welds on the rear quarters and by the mirrors 3 years into owning it and i lived in a city that didn't use salt on the roads. I had the body done the day i purchased the car new with the rubberized undercoating and have since rust checked it at krown every year. Some people get unlucky with the issue and others are fine

MicaBlueGT
02-15-2013, 07:03 PM
Yeah better picture is required before freaking out... to me that looks like rail/brake/industrial dust, which all cars get and is easily resolved. Use some polish on it and see if it goes away. I mean you did say rust BUBBLE, so maybe it is that, but the picture does not make it look like rust.

This is rail dust:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4544029095_54390675c2_o.jpg



I can assure you this is not rail dust! As much as I wish it were its definitely bubbling. Sorry about the pic I will try and get a better one.

Flagrum_3
02-16-2013, 03:28 PM
don't be to surprised. my 08 started rusting through the welds on the rear quarters and by the mirrors 3 years into owning it and i lived in a city that didn't use salt on the roads. I had the body done the day i purchased the car new with the rubberized undercoating and have since rust checked it at krown every year. Some people get unlucky with the issue and others are fine

Here is where you made a mistake as far as I'm concerned. Even the day you received your vehicle, it had already been introduced to moisture, salt water vapour, and who knows what else in it's travels. Having a 'rubberized' undercoating applied would then "trap and seal any moisture already there!"...Seriously, rubberized or wax type applications is the worst thing one can do to a new car. The Krowning done afterward would not have helped since the metal was already covered. One must think in a basic sense here, for example; What do people use to preserve and protect their guns and/or especially antique swords? ...OIL.

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nguy3nha
02-17-2013, 09:31 PM
Informative. Please show me a manufacturer whose sheet metal rusts starting on top of the paint. Le Sigh.

"rusts beneath the paint". That's exactly how it sounds.. *sigh*

O1Kanoby
02-17-2013, 09:34 PM
wow....

midnightfxgt
02-19-2013, 10:15 AM
"rusts beneath the paint". That's exactly how it sounds.. *sigh*

Your still confused? It was sarcasm. ALL rust on ALL cars forms beneath the paint.

zakman
02-19-2013, 11:01 AM
Here is where you made a mistake as far as I'm concerned. Even the day you received your vehicle, it had already been introduced to moisture, salt water vapour, and who knows what else in it's travels. Having a 'rubberized' undercoating applied would then "trap and seal any moisture already there!"...Seriously, rubberized or wax type applications is the worst thing one can do to a new car. The Krowning done afterward would not have helped since the metal was already covered. One must think in a basic sense here, for example; What do people use to preserve and protect their guns and/or especially antique swords? ...OIL.

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i agree with the OIL part for rust protection. i used it for the inner panels, suspension and doors. These are all places the rubber isn't sprayed. That's why i had it done. Also the rubber has a life time warranty for the under body. I do, to an extent, agree with part of your argument towards the rubber but As for the rubber i don't think that was the issue at all for me because mine has rusted behind the side mirror housings along the seams, which the rubber wouldn't even come close to and it came through the welds on the rear quarters. it bubbled right under the paint on each weld point on both sides. Also the trunk lid on the third break light and behind the reverse light. All spots have nothing to do with the rubber and are typical mazda rust sports. All of this leads me to believe its just still a random mazda issue.

Just my :.02

Flagrum_3
02-19-2013, 03:24 PM
i agree with the OIL part for rust protection. i used it for the inner panels, suspension and doors. These are all places the rubber isn't sprayed. That's why i had it done. Also the rubber has a life time warranty for the under body. I do, to an extent, agree with part of your argument towards the rubber but As for the rubber i don't think that was the issue at all for me because mine has rusted behind the side mirror housings along the seams, which the rubber wouldn't even come close to and it came through the welds on the rear quarters. it bubbled right under the paint on each weld point on both sides. Also the trunk lid on the third break light and behind the reverse light. All spots have nothing to do with the rubber and are typical mazda rust sports. All of this leads me to believe its just still a random mazda issue.

Just my :.02

I was just making a point about rubberized undercoating actually, not to your specific rust issue...sorry for my inferior writing ability. As I mentioned in an earlier comment and I agree with you there is or must be some issue with the metal or maybe the procedure Mazda uses that may be causing the rust issue, as you are not the first to state they have had their car rust-proofed and it is still rusting....I personally have seen some Mazdas' less then 6 years old in pretty bad shape, rust-wise, and rusted in many unconventional areas. So maybe some of us are just lucky or it could be an issue of proper (anal) attention to detail that has remedied the problem...Who knows? (knocks on wood during that last statement ;-))

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DaveIrwin24
02-19-2013, 04:57 PM
this will be covered under basic warranty for sure. Take it in to your Mazda dealership

zakman
02-20-2013, 11:36 PM
I was just making a point about rubberized undercoating actually, not to your specific rust issue...sorry for my inferior writing ability. As I mentioned in an earlier comment and I agree with you there is or must be some issue with the metal or maybe the procedure Mazda uses that may be causing the rust issue, as you are not the first to state they have had their car rust-proofed and it is still rusting....I personally have seen some Mazdas' less then 6 years old in pretty bad shape, rust-wise, and rusted in many unconventional areas. So maybe some of us are just lucky or it could be an issue of proper (anal) attention to detail that has remedied the problem...Who knows? (knocks on wood during that last statement ;-))

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Idont wish the rust on anyones car. For you ill knock on wood also lol :) heres praying