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AlexNguyen
04-07-2013, 09:32 PM
So I just recently purchased a used Mazda3 from a dealer in Kitchener. I've done a lot of research on different vehicles to insure that my first car wont be junk. I was able to find a silver '07 Hatch with a clean CarProof report, minimal damage, and no rust (because the previous owner Rust Proofed the vehicle :chuckle). Anyways here are some things I did that helped me find my first car.

Tip # 1: Know your Budget

First you need to set a budget, whether it be $5000, $10000 or $20000. In today's day and age, you get what you pay for. So if your budget is $5000, don't be expecting to get a 2011 Mazda3 with 50,000km on it. I would suggest you go on AutoTrader and see what cars you find for around your budget. This will give you an idea of the year model and how many KMs will be on the vehicle. Generally, I would stay under 100,000km if it's going to be your first car. But I would for sure stay away from 200,000km+ Mazda3s as they are more likely to give you more problems in the future.

Tip # 2: Find the model that you need

When I was looking for Mazda3 I was trying to convince myself that I needed the GT version with the leather seats, 17" alloys, moonroof, etc. My budget was around the $10,000 range and it was not a problem for me to get a Mazda3 GT around that price. The problem was that if I wanted to get a GT I would have to settle for something old and with high KMs. So if you want something an older model with higher KMs, I suggest find a model that suits your needs. For me, I for sure wanted power locks, power windows, alloy wheels and it had to be a hatch. So I looked up a Brochure (http://www.jeff-young-design.com/WorldWideWagons/In-Depth/2007-Mazda3-Brochure.pdf) for the Mazda3 and found out which model was suited for me. Once you found the model you need and you know your budget, it will be much easier for you to narrow down your searches.

Tip # 3 : Saving Time CHECK THE VIN

When choosing a car, you want to have several different cars in mind, just in case you don't like the car when you see it in person. Once you have the list of potential cars, you want to call the dealer and ask some questions. The first question I usually ask is if they could provide me the VIN on the vehicle. Following that question I usually asked if the vehicle has been in an accident or if it has any claims on it. Sometimes the dealer doesn't want to tell you over the phone or email and they want you to come to the lot to discuss the car. Make sure you get the VIN though. Once you have the VIN, you can use THIS SITE (http://www.geniusv.in/vin.php) to look at the CarProof. The CarProof will tell you if the car was in an accident, is a salvage vehicle, claims, etc. Note: this website is free to use, just make sure you select a source!

Some things to look for when reading the CarProof

Number of owners - Usually you can tell how many people owned the vehicle by checking the registration city, if there are multiple cities it most likely means there has been multiple owners. This might not true in some cases such as the owner moving to a different city.

Is it a Quebec Vehicle? - If the car was from Quebec or was in a Quebec auction, I would stay away from the vehicle because Quebec has funky accident reporting procedures which allows some accident vehicles to be put back on the road with a clean CarProof.

Bonus Tip: The Vin checking website also tells you the Model and engine of the vehicle. Often times dealers will post inaccurate ads, selecting different models, adding extra features that are not there, etc.

Tip # 4: Inspecting the vehicle

I am no means a mechanic, so I don't know exactly what to look for in a car but there was some things that helped me pick a car. First you want to check the tires and brakes. Often times the dealer will be cheap and not put new tires or brakes on the vehicle as long as it passes safety. I believe to pass safety, the tires only need to be 15%, for brakes I am not sure. But if the brakes (rotors and pads) and tires are almost gone, it may cost you almost $1000 to replace these parts. So make sure the tires and brakes are good, or get the dealer to put on new ones or give you a discount. Other things to look for is the condition of the vehicle, look for dents, rust (check the wheel wells!), interior quality, etc. Check to see if the condition of the interior matches how many KMs are on the vehicle. Also you can check the ignition key area, if there are a lot of scratches from key missing the hole and the vehicle has low KMs, that may be a red flag that the odometer has been rolled back. Check for body panels, make sure the colour matches every panel and all the panels are relatively flush with one another. You can also take the car on a test drive, and listen for weird sounds. You can also take the car to your mechanic and get it checked, but that may cost you.

Tip # 5: Check the dealer's rating

A good dealer will generally be part of the UCDA and should be BBB accredited. You can also search the dealer's reviews and google and read them. You can almost tell how honest the dealer is by looking at their lot, if they sell junk and have a collision shop attached to it, chances are you are not going to a get a good car. Sometimes it might be better to spend more money now than a lot more later, so do research on the dealer you are buying from.


Tip # 6: If it seems too good to be true, it probably is

Last tip, if the car you are buying seems like you are getting an amazing deal, there might be something wrong with it. Usually if the car is really good, many other buyers will also be looking at the vehicle. Remember, you are not the only Mazda3 buyer. When I was looking to buy a car, I found a GT with low KMs, clean CarProof and it was in my budget, in fact it was under my budget. When I went to the lot to see the vehicle, you can tell the car was in an accident but was not reported so it was not on the CarProof. Also the car had quite a bit of dents on it which indicated that the previous owner didn't love their Mazda3. The car was sitting there for a while and you could tell by the rusted brakes (Note: New brakes will develop rust on them quick, so it is not a for sure indicator that the vehicle has been sitting). If no one has bought the car yet, there is probably a reason why no one wants to buy it.

Useful sites:

http://www.autotrader.ca/
http://www.geniusv.in/vin.php
http://www.carpages.ca/
http://www.bbb.org/


These are the tips I have right now, I'll add more when I think of more.

epong
04-26-2013, 03:16 AM
I could definitely use the tips here as I'm looking for to buy my first car. How reliable is the website you posted for checking VINs?

AlexNguyen
04-26-2013, 07:33 AM
I could definitely use the tips here as I'm looking for to buy my first car. How reliable is the website you posted for checking VINs?

For me the website was very accurate when compared to the CarProof that the dealer provided. However, this VIN check is not as detailed as the CarProof. But with the CarProof and VIN Check, this is not a garauntee that vehicle has not been in an accident. You must inspect the vehicle yourself or even take it to a mechanic to inspect it.

proDJtege
04-26-2013, 07:38 AM
Definitely agree.

Also, check the body parts with the car cleaned/dry because you can inspect for bubbling/peeling clearcoat, which I missed on the bumper when I bought my mz3. :(

Anyhow, always know you can walk away from any issue you don't feel comfortable about buying into

Jackal
04-26-2013, 07:49 AM
For me the website was very accurate when compared to the CarProof that the dealer provided. However, this VIN check is not as detailed as the CarProof. But with the CarProof and VIN Check, this is not a garauntee that vehicle has not been in an accident. You must inspect the vehicle yourself or even take it to a mechanic to inspect it.

Thanks for the VIN check site. Bookmarking in case I need it in the future.

asyed
04-26-2013, 04:01 PM
checked the vin check thing for my car and this showed up

http://gyazo.com/58a32413fa8895cdbfcacfa796f72d53.png

from what I was told it was only a fender bender... not structural damage... then again I may have been lied to. ( original claim was around $5k and this happened when the car was pretty much brand new)

Or maybe the site is exaggerating the damages.


Great find on the vin check site though.

AlexNguyen
04-26-2013, 04:10 PM
checked the vin check thing for my car and this showed up

http://gyazo.com/58a32413fa8895cdbfcacfa796f72d53.png

from what I was told it was only a fender bender... not structural damage... then again I may have been lied to. ( original claim was around $5k and this happened when the car was pretty much brand new)

Or maybe the site is exaggerating the damages.


Great find on the vin check site though.

We're you provided a CarProof report from the dealer? Or even perhaps a before picture of when it was in the accident?

If someone would like to check the validity of this website, it uses an AutoCheck report. http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/gatewayAction.do?siteID=0&WT.mc_id=0 is the website that hosts the report.

asyed
04-26-2013, 04:30 PM
We're you provided a CarProof report from the dealer? Or even perhaps a before picture of when it was in the accident?

If someone would like to check the validity of this website, it uses an AutoCheck report. http://www.autocheck.com/consumers/gatewayAction.do?siteID=0&WT.mc_id=0 is the website that hosts the report.



Im not saying the website is not valid.... its very accurate. Im just saying that it seems a bit weird the carproof didnt report any structural damage.... Will have a closer look in the car for signs of structural damage.... Although I think its probably something small ( rear right door was replaced)


The dealer didnt have any pics and I still have the carproof report the dealer gave me... somewhere...

geobur
04-26-2013, 04:39 PM
that's odd...I don't know how reliable that vin check site is...when I bought my car it had 0 accidents on it...however. I got in a minor accident in the fall...and we went through insurance...however when I used that site to check my car it is still listed as having 0 accidents.

ryanbarrie
05-11-2013, 11:32 AM
that vin check site is down, found another though http://vsvin.info/ uses the same system

asyed
05-12-2013, 09:13 PM
update: turns out the dealer lied to me. Took it to a mechanic the other day and he said the car has been in a somewhat serious rear end ( from the right rear) collision and as a result my tires will wear out faster now :( . I shouldnt have trusted the mazda dealer report I got when purchasing. Oh well, for the most part the car still runs fine.

peterm15
05-12-2013, 09:27 PM
update: turns out the dealer lied to me. Took it to a mechanic the other day and he said the car has been in a somewhat serious rear end ( from the right rear) collision and as a result my tires will wear out faster now :( . I shouldnt have trusted the mazda dealer report I got when purchasing. Oh well, for the most part the car still runs fine.

What's the exact problem?