17x9+25 Rota P-45R

[js593]

I'm curious if anyone runs these. I have a local guy selling them, and thought they would really look good on the 3.

I see based on other threads that it would work.. but i don't see anyone with these wheels

Perhaps someone can chime in if they have done this before with these wheels.

Thanks!

[schmat66]

i think i know someone that picked these up today, not sure if he ended up getting these, also saw a sedan rocking them somewhere south but do it!

[js593]

i think i know someone that picked these up today, not sure if he ended up getting these, also saw a sedan rocking them somewhere south but do it!

Would love to see if they got pics of it. My 2011 is eyeballing these and begging for them. All i would need is tires. I can snag the rims for probably 400 too.

Hoping someone could put these on a Gen 2 Mica blue, and photoshop it with around 17's

http://i.imgur.com/oLvCMXG.jpg

[GWN]

+25, prepare for fender work lol

do it! it'll be worth it

[Kiyomi]

if you could, do a dry test fit, just to c where they sit. then c how much work ull need to spend to make em fit.

[CelestSpeed3]

Don't bother with these. A 17x9 +45 is a tight fit as it is.

[zzz3]

If your going to stuff these into the front fender, make sure you pick up some band-aid stickers and shit. It makes the destroyed fenders look hella cool.

[GWN]

With a little work it will fit no problem. I'm running 19x8.5 +25 and don't rub at all (lightly rolled fenders) in the front. I'd recommend a 215 tire though, the stretch will help

[breakfasteatre]

rofl@ 215 tire on 8.5" rim

[Dave_The_BMXER]

^ It wouldn't really be that much of a stretch. I have 215 on a 9.

Anyway OP never really said what his intentions for this setup are.

[6strings]

If your going to stuff these into the front fender, make sure you pick up some band-aid stickers and shit. It makes the destroyed fenders look hella cool.

thats what i do

[loki]

rofl@ 215 tire on 8.5" rim

Hehe

[The Wolf]

rofl@ 215 tire on 8.5" rim

Lol +1 tire is way too wide

[CelestSpeed3]

A 9" wheel should have a 235, 245, or 255 tire.

You shouldn't exceed the following.
8 for a 215
8.5 for a 225
9 for a 235
9.5 for a 245
10 for a 255

Ideally you want to run the widest wheel the tire an safey accommodate for optimium sidewall geometry.

[schmat66]

If your going to stuff these into the front fender, make sure you pick up some band-aid stickers and shit. It makes the destroyed fenders look hella cool.

im running a 9.5 and my fender prolly looks as good as yours


^ It wouldn't really be that much of a stretch. I have 215 on a 9.

Anyway OP never really said what his intentions for this setup are.


A 9" wheel should have a 235, 245, or 255 tire.

You shouldn't exceed the following.
8 for a 215
8.5 for a 225
9 for a 235
9.5 for a 245
10 for a 255

Ideally you want to run the widest wheel the tire an safey accommodate for optimium sidewall geometry.


you must hate me 215 on a 9.5

[The Wolf]

Ideally you want to run the widest wheel the tire an safey accommodate for optimium sidewall geometry.

Do you mean the widest tire your wheel can accommodate?

[loki]

Do you mean the widest tire your wheel can accommodate?

No, he knows what tires he wants to run and finds the rims to suit

[The Wolf]

Right but he's running 255's on 9" wheels so that contradicts his advice according to his figures

Edit: unless I'm interpreting his post all wonky

[zzz3]

im running a 9.5 and my fender prolly looks as good as yours

When your running (or crawling) on 'tires' that look and match the profile of a Ford model T radial, I wouldn't be (somewhat) surprised.


Right but he's running 255's on 9" wheels so that contradicts his advice according to his figures

Edit: unless I'm interpreting his post all wonky

He means that rim width shouldn't exceed the following tire sizes, i.e it's not recommended to go any wider than an 8 wide wheel with a 215 wide tire.

[silverstarmazda]

carpet in the picture looks like rice

[CelestSpeed3]

Right but he's running 255's on 9" wheels so that contradicts his advice according to his figures

Edit: unless I'm interpreting his post all wonky

I'm running a 255 on a 9 that's correct. I couldn't find any 17x10's that fit properly. My setup is not ideal, what I posted above is ideal for steering feel and tire support. That being said I may move to 245's once these tires are done, or get some custom wheels in 17x10. How's that for a stanced fitment?

That's being said tire companies give a range of what rim selection is acceptable for the tire. So I fit as much rubber as I could with the widest wheel I could fit on the car. That being said from a roll I rarely spin my tires, not even in first with DSC off. I had to get mudflaps not to make my tires look bigger like most people but to stop rocks from hitting my arm and door. It's was pretty funny installing the mudflaps because my tires were still wider then them.

A 215 on a 9.5 is just silly, so what you have an "aggressive fitment" you can't drive anywhere. I would probably tear those tires off the wheel at the track. You can do what you want it's your car. Isn't that why a lot of people get air, you can drive like a normal person and park like a badass. I don't hate it, I just don't understand the point of it. You hit one pothole and the rim is damaged, doesn't seem like its worth it.

[Karmaspeed]

I had to read this a few times cause I couldn't figure out what contradiction sawatsky was talking about. In the end both him and celeste were saying the same thing just coming from the opposite focused ends; celeste - rim width sawatsky - rubber width... In the end I learned absolutely nothing...

[Dave_The_BMXER]

A 215 on a 9.5 is just silly, so what you have an "aggressive fitment" you can't drive anywhere. I would probably tear those tires off the wheel at the track. You can do what you want it's your car. Isn't that why a lot of people get air, you can drive like a normal person and park like a badass. I don't hate it, I just don't understand the point of it. You hit one pothole and the rim is damaged, doesn't seem like its worth it.

You'd honestly be surprised. On both points.

I drove my car static with the 215 on a 9 a LOT and didn't have a single issue. Didn't rub, didn't debead nothing like that. Sure as you stretch further the risks increase but by in large the amount of issues people have from stretch is relatively small considering the amount of people that do it.

Also people DO track on stretch rubber setups. Not as aggressive as Ryan but it does work out.

[schmat66]

A 215 on a 9.5 is just silly, so what you have an "aggressive fitment" you can't drive anywhere. I would probably tear those tires off the wheel at the track. You can do what you want it's your car. Isn't that why a lot of people get air, you can drive like a normal person and park like a badass. I don't hate it, I just don't understand the point of it. You hit one pothole and the rim is damaged, doesn't seem like its worth it.


You'd honestly be surprised. On both points.

I drove my car static with the 215 on a 9 a LOT and didn't have a single issue. Didn't rub, didn't debead nothing like that. Sure as you stretch further the risks increase but by in large the amount of issues people have from stretch is relatively small considering the amount of people that do it.

Also people DO track on stretch rubber setups. Not as aggressive as Ryan but it does work out.

very well said dave

i have already driven 2500 km on this set up without a problem, i know people who have run a 205 on a 9.5 without de beading, its all in the tires you use, i know someone on a 225 on a 9.5 and she de beads likes crazy, because she is running nankangs. they are known to debead, i had one debead on a 205 / 7.5


and even if you go air with say your setup, not going to tuck it, unlike if you had my setup you could sit your fender right in between my rim and tire and have full tire inside the wheel well, thats why people go air, also because there tired of how much of a pain in the ass it is to be "slammed" and daily drive.

my style vs your style is the same as say the truck scene,

you have lifted trucks vs bagged trucks they are completely different styles but yet people build them to how THEY want and not for others,

[GWN]

To whomever wants to run a 17x10 with a 255 tire, all I can say is good luck.

I'm trying to fit a 10.5" wheel (yeah, quarter inch wider on each side, but you'll catch my drift) in the rears and it currently is at a +10 offset, -7* camber, with a 235/35 tire and it BARELY clears strut. I'm talking millimetres. To clear (even on a speed) the struts you'll probably need to run a +15 offset and still have a decent amount of camber, otherwise you will poke like CRAZY.

In the end, I'm having to do a serious fender/bumper shave to even attempt to daily these without ripping my tires apart.

And that is for the rears.

If you want x10" up front, I can't say you'll have an easy time (hell, the rears are gonna to take some kind of witchcraft to get in with that tire)

[CelestSpeed3]

You'd honestly be surprised. On both points.

I drove my car static with the 215 on a 9 a LOT and didn't have a single issue. Didn't rub, didn't debead nothing like that. Sure as you stretch further the risks increase but by in large the amount of issues people have from stretch is relatively small considering the amount of people that do it.

Also people DO track on stretch rubber setups. Not as aggressive as Ryan but it does work out.

Tracking with .5" wider wheel then recommended I really do t think you'll have a problem. You will however experience less grip then you would if you ran a proper setup. You didn't rub because total section width isn't that big. I still find it silly though. It does look pretty cool but other then a show car I don't see the point. Just to run a wheel with a lip, I guess?


To whomever wants to run a 17x10 with a 255 tire, all I can say is good luck.

I'm trying to fit a 10.5" wheel (yeah, quarter inch wider on each side, but you'll catch my drift) in the rears and it currently is at a +10 offset, -7* camber, with a 235/35 tire and it BARELY clears strut. I'm talking millimetres. To clear (even on a speed) the struts you'll probably need to run a +15 offset and still have a decent amount of camber, otherwise you will poke like CRAZY.


In the end, I'm having to do a serious fender/bumper shave to even attempt to daily these without ripping my tires apart.

And that is for the rears.

If you want x10" up front, I can't say you'll have an easy time (hell, the rears are gonna to take some kind of witchcraft to get in with that tire)

I want to run 17x10 wish a 255. It will work no problem. I just need to find wheels with the proper offset, and ones that clear my BBK. My tires now have a 10.25" section width. Moving to a 10" wheel the tire will be only 10.75" wide. I have enough room to fit that on the car.

[Mty Mous]

For what its worth, I was running my BBS LM's last summer as 17x8 +22 with 215\45 up front and 17x9 +35 with 235\45 out back. Car is running the KW v3 setup and the height was set to sit about 1.0" above tire height with stock alignment specs. No rubbing issues either!

235 tires on a 9" wheel is a nice square setup, and the 215 tires on the 8" was a square setup too, atleast on the Sumitomo HTR Z III tires.

Car is a 2010 MS3 with stock fenders that are Not Rolled!

[GWN]

Tracking with .5" wider wheel then recommended I really do t think you'll have a problem. You will however experience less grip then you would if you ran a proper setup. You didn't rub because total section width isn't that big. I still find it silly though. It does look pretty cool but other then a show car I don't see the point. Just to run a wheel with a lip, I guess?



I want to run 17x10 wish a 255. It will work no problem. I just need to find wheels with the proper offset, and ones that clear my BBK. My tires now have a 10.25" section width. Moving to a 10" wheel the tire will be only 10.75" wide. I have enough room to fit that on the car.

That's awesome then! Can't wait to see it done :D

[CelestSpeed3]

Know where I can find 17x10 +50 5x114.3 that's not over 2G's?

I could find 18's for under 2G's but the tires are so much more expensive.

[GWN]

Try checking places like zilvia.net, stanceworks, stance nation, wrong fitment crew, etc.

More locally, try stretch and poke, lots of members from Toronto all running wide setups!

[JrCanuck]

I'll be running 205 on a 9" rim..