Are UnderGlow Kits Legal

[Robjohn2010]

Just curious if underglow kits are legal as I keep getting mixed answers from people... regardless I think I will still chance it :D

[Hyperion]

Technically only illegal while driving.
They should however, be illegal all the time for the sake of our eyes.

[greaves82]

As hyperion said, only when driving

[ace_master]

Even if you're in the middle of an empty parking lot, you can be ticketed if the vehicle moves even a few feet with them turned on... but I guess it all depends on what kind of day the cop is having.

[Robjohn2010]

ok cool... thanks

[Robjohn2010]

what is the fine worth... anyone know

[Chrisinski]

From what I have been told in the past it depends on how they are mounted.

[Robjohn2010]

I have been driving with them on with no problems from police yet.... curious what the fine is thou

[Chrisinski]

I have seen lots of vehicles with them. Someone I use to know had them on his jeep. He told me they are OK aslong as they are mounted a certain way. I would look into this. Why mod to be pulled over?

edit: I was curious and looked around and it seems like white and amber are are a no go and aslong as the tubes are not showing ( so concealed ) they are fine.

[The Wolf]

As others have said, only illegal when moving. As for the fine, not sure but I can probably assume whatever it is, it's worth it.

[Stathakos]

Leave the underglow kits for video games

http://pctunning.no.sapo.pt/carro/Trueno.jpg

[Thrizzl3]

wtf is underglow...

[07speed_3]

You can have them in parking lots and shows but while driving its kinda hit and miss depending on the cop! This was explained from my cousin who's a opp officer

[cwp_sedan]

What is this 2001? :chuckle

[boyracer]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/inoutugh.gif.pagespeed.ce.4zVhE9-jQO.gif

[Mazdy]

I was gonna have cereals for breakfast just now...then I saw this...

[silverstarmazda]

the only time i would ever have under glow is if the doors/hatch open and it lights the sides/rear only for a short time, like the cabin lights. i honestly dont see the appeal of these other than that

[Dave_The_BMXER]

http://flatbrokestatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/5hbXx.jpg

I don't mind this.

Would I do it? No.

[greyseason]

I was gonna have cereals for breakfast just now...then I saw this...

time for some rice instead? :chuckle

[Stathakos]

What is this, 1812?

[XTOTHEL]

Really only says about casting red/blue/green light to the FRONT and visible within 150 meters...

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm#BK116

[JPJPJP]

I don't know if it's legal or not, but I rode my bike for 3+ years with LEDs glowing around the bike, just for the sake of being more visible at night. You wouldn't even know how many douchebags cut you off or almost hit you just because they can't open their eyes. With that said, I never had any problems with cops for the duration of my riding days.

[Nooby31]

I have seen stretched hummers and a yellow hummer that has underglow lighting on almost always, but they are owned by a wedding car rental company.

[jeffjones]

Out of all th epeople that say they are illegal, Can you show where in the HTA?
Because they are no illegal, unless as posted above you have RED or RED and BLUE at the front or you have red, blue or green flashing.

I will put money on it no one can show me a law against it because they legal.

[Mazdy]

Out of all th epeople that say they are illegal, Can you show where in the HTA?
Because they are no illegal, unless as posted above you have RED or RED and BLUE at the front or you have red, blue or green flashing.

I will put money on it no one can show me a law against it because they legal.

Its not the argument about illegal or not....

Its because its Rice....LOL

[Tozer]

Its not the argument about illegal or not....

Its because its Rice....LOL

Ding ding ding

[jeffjones]

Its not the argument about illegal or not....

Its because its Rice....LOL

I understand it is rice and only belongs on in high school parking lots on 92 civics, But everyone was saying it was illegal when it actually isn't.

As stated above, I had it on my sportsbike to help be noticed when highway driving (Anyone that rides a bike would understand anything to become more visible is a good thing) and have been pulled over for it but the cop didn't give me a ticket because there was no law against it.

[Default User]

Out of all th epeople that say they are illegal, Can you show where in the HTA?
Because they are no illegal, unless as posted above you have RED or RED and BLUE at the front or you have red, blue or green flashing.

I will put money on it no one can show me a law against it because they legal.

all lighting on a vehicle must be D.O.T approved.
Underglow is not D.O.T. approved. Hence - illegal

[jeffjones]

all lighting on a vehicle must be D.O.T approved.
Underglow is not D.O.T. approved. Hence - illegal


Do you have a link to that?
It would definitely end alot of discussion.

[jeffjones]

I understand headlights, but where does it stop, License playe lights, interior lighting..... They all have to be DOT approved too?

[Hyperion]

I understand headlights, but where does it stop, License playe lights, interior lighting..... They all have to be DOT approved too?
Outside lights must be. So yes to license plates, no to interior. Unless your interior lights are bright ass blue or red and viewable from the outside, they won't be a problem.

[Default User]

Do you have a link to that?
It would definitely end alot of discussion.

no time to search for that LOL

but lets say for argument sake - somebody uses white, purple, orange, yellow, pink underglow lights on public roads (becasue we've already established red, blue, green is illegal)

62(9) No motor vehicle shall carry on the front thereof more than four lighted lamps that project a beam having an intensity of over 300 candela. R.S.O. 1990,

sorry - no way around it...underglow lights on public roads is illegal

[Mitchell3]

no time to search for that LOL

but lets say for argument sake - somebody uses white, purple, orange, yellow, pink underglow lights on public roads (becasue we've already established red, blue, green is illegal)

62(9) No motor vehicle shall carry on the front thereof more than four lighted lamps that project a beam having an intensity of over 300 candela. R.S.O. 1990,

sorry - no way around it...underglow lights on public roads is illegal

I see a way. turn off your headlights.

[aris]

Out of all th epeople that say they are illegal, Can you show where in the HTA?
Because they are no illegal, unless as posted above you have RED or RED and BLUE at the front or you have red, blue or green flashing.

I will put money on it no one can show me a law against it because they legal.


If you feel their legal then slap them on your car and be done with it.

[jeffjones]

no time to search for that LOL

but lets say for argument sake - somebody uses white, purple, orange, yellow, pink underglow lights on public roads (becasue we've already established red, blue, green is illegal)

62(9) No motor vehicle shall carry on the front thereof more than four lighted lamps that project a beam having an intensity of over 300 candela. R.S.O. 1990,

sorry - no way around it...underglow lights on public roads is illegal

Highly doubt underglow have an intensity of 300 candela, and if they did I bet having your HL's, fogs and side markers all on at the same time could get you charged with that to......

Either way, out of every cop I have asked only one thought it was illegal, but couldn't find a law against it.

But even if they are 100% legal, they are still a good way to get hassled for no reason.

[jeffjones]

If you feel their legal then slap them on your car and be done with it.

I don't want them onmy car, Just stating that no one can prove they are illegal and if you were charged it would be very easy to beat the charge.

[Default User]

Highly doubt underglow have an intensity of 300 candela, and if they did I bet having your HL's, fogs and side markers all on at the same time could get you charged with that to......


side markers are not visible from the front of the car

[jeffjones]

side markers are not visible from the front of the car

Sorry I misworded it, Your DRL/turnsignals (Or whatever they are called if that is the wrong terminology)

[gabbygenier]

Highly doubt underglow have an intensity of 300 candela, and if they did I bet having your HL's, fogs and side markers all on at the same time could get you charged with that to.......

Just a note that because of this law. if you notice, cars fog lights will turn off when turning high beams on if your low beams stay on. so unless you do the indy fog mod or independant fog mod. your fogs will turn off when putting your high beams on.

also. the parking lights are not bright enough to count

[jeffjones]

also. the parking lights are not bright enough to count

And underglow is not much if any brighter than the parking lights, so why would they count?

[gabbygenier]

And underglow is not much if any brighter than the parking lights, so why would they count?

all depends on what ones you get, ive seen some that are bright as hell.

but my point was not to say they were illegal. i was just saying it as an FYI.

in the end, its up to the cops discretion really if they want to be an ass or not. im sure there are many other things he could give you tickets for but is it worth it to them? probably not. will you get bothered by the cops for it? my bet is if one is bored you will. thats about it unless you're driving like an idiot and the cop wants to throw everything he can at you

i used to have them on my bike and even when i got pulled over, they never said anything about them. on the other hand mine were single LED's that i mounted myself so they weren't that bright.

everyone on this forum that has swapped HID's into their car could potentially get a ticket if the cop was an ass. you technically violated the HTA since you "modified" the headlights. but do cops care. no unless youre an idiot and use pink and purple HID's. im sure everyone in this forum or almost everyone has something thats violating the HTA. but its things that cops dont care about.

[Default User]

And underglow is not much if any brighter than the parking lights, so why would they count?

It's not a matter of bulbs being used at the same time. It's how many lights are visible from x-number of feet away.

Parking lights are droned out by the headlights.

[jeffjones]

It's not a matter of bulbs being used at the same time. It's how many lights are visible from x-number of feet away.

Parking lights are droned out by the headlights.

Your right, Its not the number of Bulbs, Its the number of lamps (As you bolded in the HTA), which in this case regardless if drowned out or not, there would be 6 lamps which is illegal.

Legal or not, Its a reason to get pulled over.

[Default User]

That's my ADD kicking in.....